How much $$$ do people pay for SA dates that leads to somewhere?
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How much $$$ do people pay for SA dates that leads to somewhere?
Depends a lot on the area you are in and what type of girl you are looking for. In some higher cost of living areas rates are higher and GPS girls are common. Some guys that have game start at $ or $. 5 in low rent areas and many regularly go to $$$ in high rent areas with no game. Not uncommon to see some guys go $$$$$+ if they have no game in high rent areas for high end girls. $$ seems to be pretty standard for pretty decent girls without GPS in most areas.
[QUOTE=Lioil;3186595]How much $$$ do people pay for SA dates that leads to somewhere?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lioil;3186595]How much $$$ do people pay for SA dates that leads to somewhere?[/QUOTE]I have had no problem playing in the $150 -250 range for decades. I don't seek 9-10's -they are just too impressed with themselves and high maintenance. In the end, I am not looking for a life partner to drag around to social events and impress my friends and family. I am looking for a hot bodied young lady who is pleasant to look at, sweet, and sexy.
[QUOTE=Lioil;3186595]How much $$$ do people pay for SA dates that leads to somewhere?[/QUOTE]If you are asking how much money does one need to pay for a Meet & Greet, before anything happens. The answer is ZERO! NEVER pay for a M&G ever! That labels you as a mark and she will rinse you repeatedly for cash, always promising "next time. " The mantra around here is "No Sugar until the panties hit the floor!
[QUOTE=Lioil;3186595]How much $$$ do people pay for SA dates that leads to somewhere?[/QUOTE]To me what I pay for the date and what I give the girl as a give amount are two separate numbers. It's not uncommon for me to spend more on the date overall than the gift to the girl. I think some of the girls try to simplify the act of sugar dating by getting an agreement from us to a specific amount-per-fuck. There is nothing about the way I do things that is simple like that, so that category of girl is off limits to me.
As far as target gift amount for the girl, average maybe $$ not counting other date expenses and hotel. Hotel is fixed overhead if I'm traveling anyway so I don't count it in the numbers. Less amount for the girl's gift if there's a problem with attitude or performance, more depending on the circumstances. More if she's worth it and I end up spending a lot of time with her. I never agree to any particular amount, because there's no way to guarantee what that amount will get me. We have to meet first and see if we both want to fuck each other. If we do, the rest will all fall nicely into place every time like magic.
Would be interested in hearing advice and opinions from the brothers on my current SB. In my 18 months actively on SA (28 to the FC) I have never been concerned about a SB turning wacko and trying to pull some type of extortion stunt. It may be because up until 4 months ago I always kept a rotation of 3 to 4 SBs and quickly dropped any that seemed a bit weird. But as some of you know I changed my M. O. four months ago when I got busted by my SO. I cut my play area radius from 2 hours down to a half hour and converted to keeping just one SB with no back-ups. Less activity but cuts down on the risk of getting busted a second time.
So for the past 8 weeks have been weekly with a 21 year old bisexual Asian girl. She is very aggressive in the FC, we have done an overnight and also a threesome with a 19 year old bisexual SB that I had a previous history with (I had brought her in this summer with a 19 yr old bi-curious SB I was seeing at the time). She is the first Asian I have been with but she got my attention when I saw her private SA pics - they were all fully nude. Meanwhile, she has just signed a lease for her own apt, moving in late February which will cut out the hotel expense for me and give me more flexibility on the time of day. This could be the ideal SB situation for me, BUT there have been some red flags in her conversation making me wonder if she is wacko enough to try an extortion stunt. Maybe it is her sense of humor but recently she will laugh while making comments like "what if you had to keep seeing me or I would say something to your wife?" and "what if you had to pay me $3000 or I would tell your wife? Separately she slips in questions asking me what my wife's (first) name is and whether she works at a job or not. I don't believe she knows my last name but a few weeks ago she did have access to my hotel receipt for about 10 seconds.
What she doesn't know is that I have a sizable amount of research on her. I knew her real name and FB account before we met the first time. From the beginning she encouraged me to visit her at work (server in a high end sports bar), which I have. Most importantly I have a very hot 2 minute video of her sucking my cock.
My instincts are to not let her know the leverage I have over her but I figure I have three choices. I could tell her I appreciate her sense of humor but it doesn't fit my sense of humor (but then she knows she is getting into my head). I could continue like nothing is bothering me but watch her / listen to her carefully. Or I could distance myself from her ASAP, for example, I could tell her I need to be out of town on family business for the next month or so and see if she gets active back on SA (currently she goes on the site about every 7 to 10 days). Interested in comments, including of course WWJ (eez) D.
[QUOTE=Lioil;3186595]How much $$$ do people pay for SA dates that leads to somewhere?[/QUOTE]My standard rate is $100 plus a 20 percent tip if it's good. If she is transportation challenged, I will pay for the Uber, coming and going. I don't go for the beauty queens and chocolate is my preference. I pretty much have a 100 percent success rate of getting to the FC, but I would not pay for a meet-and-greet, except for transportation costs. This shuts me out of the 9-10 superstars, but I'm fine with that. I have had some spectacular sessions with SBs in the 6-7 range. I'm sure girls like that come in all colors; my preference just happens to be chocolate. Happy trails!
I would get distance as fast as possible. Assuming you intend to stay with SO. You will find another SB a hell of a lot easier than a divorce or replacement of the SO! To me it's playing with fire.
[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3190732]Would be interested in hearing advice and opinions from the brothers on my current SB. In my 18 months actively on SA (28 to the FC) I have never been concerned about a SB turning wacko and trying to pull some type of extortion stunt. It may be because up until 4 months ago I always kept a rotation of 3 to 4 SBs and quickly dropped any that seemed a bit weird. But as some of you know I changed my M. O. four months ago when I got busted by my SO. I cut my play area radius from 2 hours down to a half hour and converted to keeping just one SB with no back-ups. Less activity but cuts down on the risk of getting busted a second time.
So for the past 8 weeks have been weekly with a 21 year old bisexual Asian girl. She is very aggressive in the FC, we have done an overnight and also a threesome with a 19 year old bisexual SB that I had a previous history with (I had brought her in this summer with a 19 yr old bi-curious SB I was seeing at the time). She is the first Asian I have been with but she got my attention when I saw her private SA pics - they were all fully nude. Meanwhile, she has just signed a lease for her own apt, moving in late February which will cut out the hotel expense for me and give me more flexibility on the time of day. This could be the ideal SB situation for me, BUT there have been some red flags in her conversation making me wonder if she is wacko enough to try an extortion stunt. Maybe it is her sense of humor but recently she will laugh while making comments like "what if you had to keep seeing me or I would say something to your wife?" and "what if you had to pay me $3000 or I would tell your wife? Separately she slips in questions asking me what my wife's (first) name is and whether she works at a job or not. I don't believe she knows my last name but a few weeks ago she did have access to my hotel receipt for about 10 seconds.
What she doesn't know is that I have a sizable amount of research on her. I knew her real name and FB account before we met the first time. From the beginning she encouraged me to visit her at work (server in a high end sports bar), which I have. Most importantly I have a very hot 2 minute video of her sucking my cock.
My instincts are to not let her know the leverage I have over her but I figure I have three choices. I could tell her I appreciate her sense of humor but it doesn't fit my sense of humor (but then she knows she is getting into my head). I could continue like nothing is bothering me but watch her / listen to her carefully. Or I could distance myself from her ASAP, for example, I could tell her I need to be out of town on family business for the next month or so and see if she gets active back on SA (currently she goes on the site about every 7 to 10 days). Interested in comments, including of course WWJ (eez) D.[/QUOTE]
Here's my average sugar over the last 5 years for an overnite. Yes I keep a spreadsheet!
$126.75 $112.19 $111.92 $141.35 $142.95.
As suggested somewhere in this thread I always offer x for the first overnite and x /2 for a remaining multiple nites in a row. So the lower years were more consecutive nites. Most will accept.
Maximum ever was $250. In general $150 will close the deal.
I play in second tier cities.
[QUOTE=Lioil;3186595]How much $$$ do people pay for SA dates that leads to somewhere?[/QUOTE]
So it seems maybe average is 2 . HOW do you initiate the conversation? Just say outright x for overnight or for few hours? If they bite then go if not then next?
I used AM briefly and I had some of them insist on Mg while I had others who wanted way too much. One girl kept mentioning having to pay her 20 k tuition. Just curious if anyone can share a typical intro? Thanks.
[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3190732]
My instincts are to not let her know the leverage I have over her but I figure I have three choices. I could tell her I appreciate her sense of humor but it doesn't fit my sense of humor (but then she knows she is getting into my head). I could continue like nothing is bothering me but watch her / listen to her carefully. Or I could distance myself from her ASAP, for example, I could tell her I need to be out of town on family business for the next month or so and see if she gets active back on SA (currently she goes on the site about every 7 to 10 days). Interested in comments, including of course WWJ (eez) D.[/QUOTE]
My advice is to explore the comments in a conversation with her. So many dudes play these silly mind games and often in doing so out game them self! Who cares if she thinks she is getting in your head? It looks like she already has! So what if you have porn video of her, you really wanna play the "get even game" and start a war with her? (you'll loose in the end.) This is real life, not a game of Survivor or Big Brother! Be real, be honest, be open.
So the bottom line: What you want to do? If what you want is to keep seeing her then you need to nip this in the bud and re-establish your dominate position! Tell her you don't find that kind of joke funny and she appears to be dangerous or wacko in doing so and if she wants to keep seeing you, it needs to stop. Bottom line is that you have to be firm and have the ballZ to back it up.
Does no good to talk tough and not boot her out if she transgresses. I am sure she can read you fairly well if you have spent that much time with her. So if you are like a buddy I know (sucker tattooed on his forehead) then it is time to make a break and move on. If not, lay down the law in a firm but nice way. THEN if she plays that game again, dump her. She might flop around for a while and eventually show some contrition and you could go back to her later, if you wish. But at least she knows at that point you were serious and to NOT cross you.
All of that said, I hope to high h#ll that you have taken all of the appropriate precautions to put protective layers between you and the girl? Do you communicate with her using GV on a burner phone? Have you kept secret from her your real name and your real place of work? Does she know your license plate number? Is she your Facebook friend on a monger only FB account? If she knows who you are then the above paragraph is moot. As Graham111 says, get the heck out! (Oh, and "fix" those glaring errors in privacy protections for the next time!) If not and you have several protective layers between you and her, then you can explore the above conversation. I'd she is banking on your Sugar contribution to help pay for her new apartment, your leverage is great.
Just don't be the typical "guy" and fail to talk to her and try to fix problems. Yeah, I know it is pretty "relationship like". If you have a position of safety, it is worthwhile to try to nip this in the bud. Just see if you can talk to her about it and see what she says.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3190732]Would be interested in hearing advice and opinions from the brothers on my current SB.[/QUOTE]The good news is that this is not a bowl-specific issue (it happens in civy dating too for those getting some poon on the side). It is almost always an attempt to get a reaction out of you rather than lining you up for a true extortion attempt. Just typical female manipulation attempt to see if they can make you sweat. None of them ever followed through, and I'm not sure if that's because of the way I handled it when it happened, or the fact that I put distance between the girl and me (either immediately or over time).
That's not to say true extortion attempts are not a real threat, the element of money (their perception of a bigger payoff) makes that threat more relevant in the bowl than civy dating, IMHO. It's one of the many reasons I don't like regular recurring visits with a single girl. Not many of them would pull this kind of thing during the get-to-know phase of the first 1-4 dates.
As far as how to handle it, I'd agree with another poster about distancing yourself from her. You've been caught once, and you don't need the stress of even having to think about whether or not your secret friend is also your secret enemy. The whole point of the bowl is to have a good time, does hanging out with a girl who is potentially a ticking time bomb, or even one who gets her kicks by trying to make you believe she's a ticking time bomb, sound like a good time? It doesn't to me. There's always fresh new willing pussy out there, why deal with headaches from one?
You said maybe it's just her sense of humor. Personally I think girls with poor joke choices make very annoying conversation partners, but that's subjective. You could always try fighting fire with fire, and counter her bad humor attempt with another bad humor attempt. For example, if she's grinning ear to ear and says "what if I say give me $3 k or I tell your wife?!" Just counter that by grinning ear to ear and say "well I'd say you better spend it quick because its probably only a matter of time before you disappear and nobody hears from you again". Make sure it's clear you're joking too, being facetious to match her attempt at same, but also be sure and study her facial expression as you tell her that, as it will be a satisfying moment that you want to reflect on.
But if it were me I would just find another girl who is less of a hassle. If the next girl is also a hassle, delete her from the contact list and on with the next. Next, next next. Variety is infinitely more satisfying than the same old routine anyway.
[QUOTE=StormyTuesday;3190732]What she doesn't know is that I have a sizable amount of research on her. I knew her real name and FB account before we met the first time. From the beginning she encouraged me to visit her at work (server in a high end sports bar), which I have. Most importantly I have a very hot 2 minute video of her sucking my cock.
My instincts are to not let her know the leverage I have over her but I figure I have three choices. I could tell her I appreciate her sense of humor but it doesn't fit my sense of humor (but then she knows she is getting into my head). I could continue like nothing is bothering me but watch her / listen to her carefully. Or I could distance myself from her ASAP, for example, I could tell her I need to be out of town on family business for the next month or so and see if she gets active back on SA (currently she goes on the site about every 7 to 10 days). Interested in comments, including of course WWJ (eez) D.[/QUOTE]My thoughts. Juts ghost and disappear. She is bad news!
[QUOTE=Lioil;3191386]So it seems maybe average is 2 . HOW do you initiate the conversation? Just say outright x for overnight or for few hours? If they bite then go if not then next?
I used AM briefly and I had some of them insist on Mg while I had others who wanted way too much. One girl kept mentioning having to pay her 20 k tuition. Just curious if anyone can share a typical intro? Thanks.[/QUOTE]During negotiations it is better to listen more than you talk. My last two SBs, both one-night stands while I was traveling on business, never mentioned money. Neither did I. Before I leave for a trip I always go to the bank for crisp new bills, especially hundred-dollar bills. On my last adventure I paid one SB $100 (my standard) and the other $120 (includes a tip for great service). They both left the room satisfied and both called the next day asking if they could come back. There is something about the sight and smell of a new hundred-dollar bill that excites all women.
If one of them had balked that $100 wasn't enough I would have gone higher -- but on SA I have never paid more than $150 plus Uber fare. Never. Whenever I discuss money in advance I tell the SB that I generally pay a hundred on the first date, with a tip if it's good. I tell her the larger payoffs come on dates two, three, four, etc. , as we get to know each other and work toward a monthly "arrangement. ".
Of course, I never get around to offering an arrangement. I am in the game for variety, and usually I am one and done with a chick unless she is exceptional. And if she is I will increase the rate that I pay -- but never to more than $150.
Mind you, this tactic will not work on the most gorgeous women in the highest demand. That is fine with me, since many of them are also the worst fucks. My rates are also for 60-90 minutes -- not overnight. You have to understand that a lot of chicks are catching hell in the economy. Making $150 in an hour 15 minutes is one hell of a deal for a lot of chicks who woke up that morning needing a few bucks to tide things over until she receives her monthly child support check.
Many guys overpay because they are afraid of being turned down. Through 30-plus years of mongering I have never harbored that fear. And nowadays, with the internet, there is an endless supply. It is truly a buyer's market. Therefore, I am more than happy to just move on to the next prospect if the first one turns me down. I learned that lesson many, many years ago when I paid one chick $300 and she wasn't nearly as good as the chick I paid $75 to the night before. Happy trails.
[QUOTE=CigarFL;3191679]During negotiations it is better to listen more than you talk.[/QUOTE]Your message title and first sentence pretty much sum up my method. By their nature, SBs are usually too young, too inexperienced, and too female (LOL) to be good negotiators. Therefore, the less we say about the subject of how much, the better position we are in.
Yes, there are some that start off demanding to know how much, and there are some who will never get off the subject. I just disconnect from those, they are always going to be a PITA anyway. Like you said, some girls just don't ask and as long as they are happy with the overall experience will never bring up the subject of dollar amounts at all.
[QUOTE=Lioil;3191937]Good strategy. But how do you guarantee that date is what it is? Do you just get down to "lets have date at a hotel" and they get it? I mean it has to be pretty obvious that they know what's expected right? I am still fresh in this game but it seems the one I talk to always wants to meet somewhere to chat but that could cost a bit then not get anywhere. Should I just bypass those and hit on those who directly just go for it?[/QUOTE]Here are a few basic steps:
1. After you connect online, move off SA and to text / email ASAP.
2. Here's a sample first full email I send:
Hey Sunshine,
I'm your Daddy.
Well, I don't mean that literally! Just having some fun with the tagline in your profile. You asked for my picture so here I am. On S. A. My moniker is. But I don't dress like this all the time -- only for business.
I am a business executive, older, not aggressive, and definitely not clingy. So how can I see you when I come to Dallas?
Thanks,
Cigar.
3. It's her turn once you send that email and a photo of yourself. Sorry, but at some point you got to take a leap of faith and let them see what you look like. If she responds then you move to the next step. If she is starting to text / email you favorably you must quickly get to the point:
4. Hello,
Thanks for getting back to me! I thought it would be a good idea to if you're comfortable with what I'm looking for. So. Hope this doesn't make you blush, but here goes: I am interested in short encounters of 60-90 minutes that offers full sex in multiple positions that include missionary, doggie and in front of a mirror if one is available. My sexual interests are pretty standard: lots of oral without a condom, masturbation while looking at you as you pose in multiple positions, dirty talk and vaginal intercourse with a condom. I will offer you an application of self-dissolving contraceptive film in an unopened box for extra protection -- because I actually care about you as a person!
I'm not interested in anything that hurts or humiliates, anal, cumming on the face, or any of that. You needn't worry about me asking to take pictures, submitting reviews of our encounter on websites, or violating your privacy in any way. My dirty talk is just the basics -- no B-word or W-word, but everything else erotic.
About the only other kink I have is watching the lady pee on the potty. How does this match up with what you are comfortable with? What are your bra and panty sizes? Your figure is outstanding and I love your photos.
Peace and blessings.
Me.
5. If she responds to the first two emails then it's time to cut to the chase. I'll respond later with one or two of the emails I use to close the deal. Happy trails.
[QUOTE=Graham111;3191219]I would get distance as fast as possible. Assuming you intend to stay with SO. You will find another SB a hell of a lot easier than a divorce or replacement of the SO! To me it's playing with fire.[/QUOTE]I agree with Graham. If you suspect it might get to an extortion situation, you need to get distance ASAP. Try pulling back a little, and see how she reacts. If she starts to get psycho, then you know.
Also, I doubt you have much leverage on her other than reporting the extortion to the police. If she had nudes on her SA profile, then she'll probably not care about a BJ video being posted.
The anticipation of waiting for a brand new 20 year old babe, who's in the uber on the way over right now.
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You said maybe it's just her sense of humor. Personally I think girls with poor joke choices make very annoying conversation partners, but that's subjective. You could always try fighting fire with fire, and counter her bad humor attempt with another bad humor attempt. For example, if she's grinning ear to ear and says "what if I say give me $3 k or I tell your wife?!" Just counter that by grinning ear to ear and say "well I'd say you better spend it quick because its probably only a matter of time before you disappear and nobody hears from you again". Make sure it's clear you're joking too, being facetious to match her attempt at same, but also be sure and study her facial expression as you tell her that, as it will be a satisfying moment that you want to reflect on.
[/QUOTE]Much better going 'positive'.
I'd answer that with " mmmm I 'd kinda hate that. Because she would want to join in and she is not really good at 3 somes, but go ahead if you want to. And you probably ruin the fun we have. Shall I dial her now? " works like a charm.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;3194120]The anticipation of waiting for a brand new 20 year old babe, who's in the uber on the way over right now.[/QUOTE]How good was that thrill ride?
[QUOTE=EuroInCincy;3194739]Much better going 'positive'. I'd answer that with " mmmm I 'd kinda hate that. Because she would want to join in and she is not really good at 3 somes, but go ahead if you want to. And you probably ruin the fun we have. Shall I dial her now? " works like a charm.[/QUOTE]Depends on the individual responding, the girl, the vibe between the two up until that point, etc. What works well for one doesn't necessarily work for another. There is a certain category of girl that would perceive that comeback as weakness unless you're actually prepared to dial. They'll say "yeah, dial her. Or give me your phone and let me dial her". Then what? You're fucked at that point because you don't have the balls to follow through (well most married guys wouldn't at least) and she just called your bluff, showing you who wears the pants in the matter. At that point you're worse off than if you'd just said nothing.
The line I offered cuts the head off the cobra right away in most cases. But yes your approach would work well with some girls too. It's something to be played by ear, and put in the context of each's own repoire with a particular girl. Hopefully nobody reading this right now is copying down lines verbatim and just using them indiscriminately.
I once had a buddy that would go bar hopping with me. He was a good looking-ish guy that had no game for some reason. I would end up scoring a nice one-night stand almost every time, and he kept hounding me to "teach him my pickup lines". He assumed I had some because he would literally watch me approach girls, and watching their face light up from from a distance it looked like I was saying something extremely well-thought out. But I wasn't, I was going in completely unprepared and making it all up as I went along, starting from the moment I made eye contact with her. Point being is that there never has been a forumla or a set of rules for properly handling women and there never will be. Canned lines are poor man's game. They might work in some cases, but not on the 8-10 girls.
He would ask me to repeat what I said to her, and sometimes I told him verbatim and he wouldn't believe me that it were that simple. I told him it wasn't what I said as much as how I said it, and the fact that how I did was a response to the social vibe the girl was putting out at the time. Mostly just simple smalltalk, it's more about tailoring the delivery to the current situation. To this day he doesn't believe me that I never use canned pickup lines. I tried a few times back in the 80's and it only led to awkward moments. Everything else is practice, practice, practice, and be ready to improvise and quickly do what's best for the particular girl and particular context. There is no set pattern or formula to fall back to every time, only the skill to work through any situation that comes from practice.
Most of girls I play with are looking for new experiences with someone that can teach & guide all whilst making them comfortable while doing so!
[QUOTE=CigarFL;3191958]Here are a few basic steps:
1. After you connect online, move off SA and to text / email ASAP.
2. Here's a sample first full email I send:
Hey Sunshine,
I'm your Daddy.
Well, I don't mean that literally! Just having some fun with the tagline in your profile. You asked for my picture so here I am. On S. A. My moniker is. But I don't dress like this all the time -- only for business.
I am a business executive, older, not aggressive, and definitely not clingy. So how can I see you when I come to Dallas?
Thanks,
Cigar.
3. It's her turn once you send that email and a photo of yourself. Sorry, but at some point you got to take a leap of faith and let them see what you look like. If she responds then you move to the next step. If she is starting to text / email you favorably you must quickly get to the point:
4. Hello,
Thanks for getting back to me! I thought it would be a good idea to if you're comfortable with what I'm looking for. So. Hope this doesn't make you blush, but here goes: I am interested in short encounters of 60-90 minutes that offers full sex in multiple positions that include missionary, doggie and in front of a mirror if one is available. My sexual interests are pretty standard: lots of oral without a condom, masturbation while looking at you as you pose in multiple positions, dirty talk and vaginal intercourse with a condom. I will offer you an application of self-dissolving contraceptive film in an unopened box for extra protection -- because I actually care about you as a person!
I'm not interested in anything that hurts or humiliates, anal, cumming on the face, or any of that. You needn't worry about me asking to take pictures, submitting reviews of our encounter on websites, or violating your privacy in any way. My dirty talk is just the basics -- no B-word or W-word, but everything else erotic.
About the only other kink I have is watching the lady pee on the potty. How does this match up with what you are comfortable with? What are your bra and panty sizes? Your figure is outstanding and I love your photos.
Peace and blessings.
Me.
5. If she responds to the first two emails then it's time to cut to the chase. I'll respond later with one or two of the emails I use to close the deal. Happy trails.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CigarFL;3194874]How good was that thrill ride?[/QUOTE]It was awesome. She's a little thicker than I go for, but a 20 year old can carry it well. She was nervous at first, so we sat and chatted for a while until she was comfortable. I eased her into the FC and we had a lot of fun. I found out she had never used a vibrator so I introduced her to Mr. Magic wand, it was a big hit. I finally had to kick her out after about 5 hours, she was showing no signs of being ready to leave. We never discussed allowance, she never asked, at the end I slipped 120 into her purse. She has already texted me a couple of times since, so we'll be getting together again soon.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;3196393]We never discussed allowance, she never asked, at the end I slipped 120 into her purse. She has already texted me a couple of times since, so we'll be getting together again soon.[/QUOTE]You got a bargain. I'm always looking to spend $100-$120 and get a great performance. Looks like you nailed it. Nice work.
What's making girls suddenly desperate on SA? Full moon? I don't have an active membership and I have had many messages coming in. Some new people, some old. I've tried to go without a paid membership b / c it can be so distracting, but the messages and photos I've been sent are sure intriguing - I may need to pay to read them.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3197120]What's making girls suddenly desperate on SA? Full moon? I don't have an active membership and I have had many messages coming in. Some new people, some old. I've tried to go without a paid membership b / c it can be so distracting, but the messages and photos I've been sent are sure intriguing - I may need to pay to read them.[/QUOTE]Same thing here dude. I needed a break from that place but the messages keep coming and I may have to pay for a month just to read all the messages I've received recently. Some intriguing for sure.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3197120]What's making girls suddenly desperate on SA? Full moon? I don't have an active membership and I have had many messages coming in. Some new people, some old. I've tried to go without a paid membership b / c it can be so distracting, but the messages and photos I've been sent are sure intriguing - I may need to pay to read them.[/QUOTE]One thing I have to learn is to stay away from SA when I'm not carrying an active membership. I'm flooded with messages and "favorites" from women who want to get to the next step. Arrgh!
Magic wands are a HUGE hit, one I would recommend every SD bring to the FC. To elaborate a bit more; I carry a tool box (2' wide) stuffed with all sorts of toys. While most are your standard sex toys, I have some rather unique ones in there that solicits a raised eyebrow. It is a great icebreaker and it intrigues both young and old SBs. They become enamored and intrigued with experiencing something new.
As I correspond with new POTs, I will mention "the toolbox" in passing, not as a main topic, but enough to tease them a bit and raise their curiosity. It's funny to see them circle back around after the subject is changed wanting to know more about what's inside.
Cheers: Thresh.
[QUOTE=Dsprdo;3196393]It was awesome. She's a little thicker than I go for, but a 20 year old can carry it well. She was nervous at first, so we sat and chatted for a while until she was comfortable. I eased her into the FC and we had a lot of fun. I found out she had never used a vibrator so I introduced her to Mr. Magic wand, it was a big hit. I finally had to kick her out after about 5 hours, she was showing no signs of being ready to leave. We never discussed allowance, she never asked, at the end I slipped 120 into her purse. She has already texted me a couple of times since, so we'll be getting together again soon.[/QUOTE]
I've seen the same flurry of activity. I'm pretty sure it is a rush for Christmas cash.
It kind of pushes them into our arms! LOL.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3197120]What's making girls suddenly desperate on SA? Full moon? I don't have an active membership and I have had many messages coming in. Some new people, some old. I've tried to go without a paid membership b / c it can be so distracting, but the messages and photos I've been sent are sure intriguing - I may need to pay to read them.[/QUOTE]
Don't buy a knockoff cheap wand! The hitachi never disappoints! Take the show on the road with the rechargeable model!
My first long term sb was a gem! The first thing she did before we had even met was give me a toy wishlist. Leather restraints, gem plug, hitachi, dildos! Of course I added to the list and we had a huge box of toys for out first weekend date. We basically didn't leave the hotel room for two days except for dinner on sat night. Which the remote wireless buttplug was buzzing throughout dinner. For my bday my naughty little girl gave me / her a lush and we-vibe that she would get off on while in her while a classes at college 250 miles away.
[QUOTE=Thresh;3197165]Magic wands are a HUGE hit, one I would recommend every SD bring to the FC. To elaborate a bit more; I carry a tool box (2' wide) stuffed with all sorts of toys. While most are your standard sex toys, I have some rather unique ones in there that solicits a raised eyebrow. It is a great icebreaker and it intrigues both young and old SBs. They become enamored and intrigued with experiencing something new.
As I correspond with new POTs, I will mention "the toolbox" in passing, not as a main topic, but enough to tease them a bit and raise their curiosity. It's funny to see them circle back around after the subject is changed wanting to know more about what's inside.
Cheers: Thresh.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;3197636]I've seen the same flurry of activity. I'm pretty sure it is a rush for Christmas cash.
It kind of pushes them into our arms! LOL.[/QUOTE]Exactly! THAT and lots of free time since Finals are done and school is out for the time being.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;3197758]Exactly! THAT and lots of free time since Finals are done and school is out for the time being.[/QUOTE]Well, crap. This is a great opportunity but circumstances are really putting a crimp into my action. I can't as easily get out of the house as my work is shutting down for the holidays. Even seeing my regular SB is going to be tough. Caught a bad cold on my last trip, though. Makes me feel like I just OD'd on viagra.
You guys know you can deactivate, right? This will keep your account (it will reactivate next time you log in) but basically remove you for purposes of communications (you won't be tempted by ongoing messages, don't have to worry about the girls feeling you're ignoring them by not responding). I'm not sure if there's a time limit on how long you can stay deactivated or not.
Do you get a new set for each new SB? I remember getting one for one of my first SB's, and took it out of the package before she came over. She had a fit that I wanted to use something that had been in another woman. Of course, this was the same woman that got a plug in one and melted it down using it so much that it caught on fire about a month later.
[QUOTE=Thresh;3197165]Magic wands are a HUGE hit, one I would recommend every SD bring to the FC. To elaborate a bit more; I carry a tool box (2' wide) stuffed with all sorts of toys. While most are your standard sex toys, I have some rather unique ones in there that solicits a raised eyebrow. It is a great icebreaker and it intrigues both young and old SBs. They become enamored and intrigued with experiencing something new.
As I correspond with new POTs, I will mention "the toolbox" in passing, not as a main topic, but enough to tease them a bit and raise their curiosity. It's funny to see them circle back around after the subject is changed wanting to know more about what's inside.
Cheers: Thresh.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;3198085]Do you get a new set for each new SB? I remember getting one for one of my first SB's, and took it out of the package before she came over. She had a fit that I wanted to use something that had been in another woman. Of course, this was the same woman that got a plug in one and melted it down using it so much that it caught on fire about a month later.[/QUOTE]They are kind of pricey, so not a new one every time. This girl actually asked me if it was clean, but most haven't said a thing. Once I touched her with it, no more questions! The look on her face when I started was priceless.
Be on the lookout for WallFlowerPetal.
JMU undergrad with some cute photos with nice bod.
Recently changed some of her photos to reflect the scam photos she is emailing around in exchange for $$.
She forgot to take down the one profile photo linked to her Facebook. Parents are super strict military types, so we was quick to refund.
[QUOTE=Thresh;3197165]Magic wands are a HUGE hit, one I would recommend every SD bring to the FC. To elaborate a bit more; I carry a tool box (2' wide) stuffed with all sorts of toys. While most are your standard sex toys, I have some rather unique ones in there that solicits a raised eyebrow. It is a great icebreaker and it intrigues both young and old SBs. They become enamored and intrigued with experiencing something new.
As I correspond with new POTs, I will mention "the toolbox" in passing, not as a main topic, but enough to tease them a bit and raise their curiosity. It's funny to see them circle back around after the subject is changed wanting to know more about what's inside.
Cheers: Thresh.[/QUOTE]Take it to the next level and get a machine or 2 or 3.
A girl the town over messaged me on SA. I asked her if she would like to chat by email rather than on SA and so she sent me her email.
Her email had her real name in it, so I searched it and she is the girl in the photos, and also has 70 mutual friends on FB with me. Including several who are close / best friends of mine. I haven't met her before, or seen her, but she's cute as hell and it looks like I should probably stay away.
I'm single, no kids, etc, but I don't know if I want to deal with the possible drama.
[QUOTE=JZLizard;3198018]You guys know you can deactivate, right? This will keep your account (it will reactivate next time you log in) but basically remove you for purposes of communications (you won't be tempted by ongoing messages, don't have to worry about the girls feeling you're ignoring them by not responding). I'm not sure if there's a time limit on how long you can stay deactivated or not.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I do that sometimes, when I don't want a regular SB to know I'm on the site. But she has deactivated hers and I trust her (yeah I know), and I find it irresistible. I have 20 messages worth keeping in the inbox from just 2 days on the site. Deleted many more wackos.
I apologize if this has been asked before, but after plenty of searching, I am not really coming up with a definitive answer. Do you use a real profile picture in your account? Seems like most only send a pic if asked.