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[QUOTE=Cmb41;6844783]The ease of the AMP is so elite to other options. It's nice to know I can just go when I want, for the most part know what I'm gunna get and pay. No texting back and fourth, ghosting and GPS like you see in escorting.[/QUOTE]This pretty much sums it up.
[QUOTE=Cmb41;6844783]I find it so odd nobody here has any real intel. If it was a bust I would have to imagine someone would have seen something go down. Or some guys that have the girls numbers would have heard something by now. It seems as though they closed up shop at night like normal and just never reopened the next day and vanished. Seems very strange, along with no news reports of anything happening.[/QUOTE]I reached out to a girl the other day whom I was close with and heard nothing back. And I usually get a response. I agree very odd no one has heard anything or any news come out.
I'll be moving back to the Windy City at the end of April and reached out to my monger friends to get up to date info on the current scene, to my dismay I'm told that 5 of my go to's have been closed these were all run by the same management, it seems to be to much of a coincidence that some of our parlors are shut down the same week / time, I can confirm that Nirvana is closed as I tried this morning door locked straight to voicemail.
I have reached out to "special friends" cricket's no reply and 2 numbers disconnected these are friends that I have seen outside AMP scene.
I don't know if it is coincidence or if they're part of the same thing, but last month on my way back from the Ren faire I stopped by Asian on Main across from Ross. It was all locked up too. I'm not local so it has been a while since I visited, no idea how long it's been closed. But while looking for a close alternative, it looked like another monger did a drive by and wasn't aware of the closing.
Has anyone checked on the small independents to see if they're still open, or if they know what happened?
Just thought I'd throw this out there, I've got a couple friends who are international students from China. They just flew out this morning for the Qingming Festival in China. Major traditional holiday in China on the 4th of April, but I find it hard to believe they would all be gone for that.
[QUOTE=DaedricChamp;6845216]Just thought I'd throw this out there, I've got a couple friends who are international students from China. They just flew out this morning for the Qingming Festival in China. Major traditional holiday in China on the 4th of April, but I find it hard to believe they would all be gone for that.[/QUOTE]If that were the case, you would have seen AMP's close this time every year (hasn't happened before). And pretty much all of these places were open even during Chinese New Year.
[QUOTE=DaedricChamp;6845216]Just thought I'd throw this out there, I've got a couple friends who are international students from China. They just flew out this morning for the Qingming Festival in China. Major traditional holiday in China on the 4th of April, but I find it hard to believe they would all be gone for that.[/QUOTE]Pending invasion from China? I might watch Red Dawn tonight for preparation tips.
For all you guys who have been at this for a while, how long has the big 6 been around? Before them was there another group of spas that did the same and got shut down similarly?
If so how long was it before the big 6 were up and running?
I'd imagine that if the organization got shut down, next man up would want to start it up again asap to get the money flowing again.
This is on Peoria Ave, Glendale.
Recently went for a 2nd session with Salad here. Glad I did.
Was very happy my first visit, so returned. Salad is Chinese, probably 5'4", 115 lbs. Medium build with natural Bs, long hair, and a cute face. 35-ish?
Massage is 6. 5/10. Everything after is 8/10. Daty, 69? Encouraged. Deep throat BJ with skill and eye contact. FS anyway you want it. She'll help herself orgasm along the way.
Be good to her fellas.
On a whim, I drove by Top yesterday. I was surprised to see their red and blue massage sign active. I did not go inside thinking that it could be a sting by LEO.
I'm now being told by an internal source that our favorite valley chain of AMP's is only closed for "vacation" and will be back soon, let's hope so.
[QUOTE=GeminiMan10;6845656]I'm now being told by an internal source that our favorite valley chain of AMP's is only closed for "vacation" and will be back soon, let's hope so.[/QUOTE]This is the best news I've had in quite a while.
I bet the owners started seeing an increase in BBFS and so they shut it down to prevent std's from spreading. I bet when they open back up that will not be offered anymore.
[QUOTE=GeminiMan10;6845656]I'm now being told by an internal source that our favorite valley chain of AMP's is only closed for "vacation" and will be back soon, let's hope so.[/QUOTE]Couple things to keep in mind is that it is an election year and second in a week or so the Final Four is going to be in Phoenix. Ownership may be looking to keep a lower profile.
[QUOTE=Denton;6845251]If that were the case, you would have seen AMP's close this time every year (hasn't happened before). And pretty much all of these places were open even during Chinese New Year.[/QUOTE]10 years or so there were 5 or 6 good ones that would close this time of year.
Takeout finally called back. Short term closure. Had a problem with import / export. New rotation got stuck at the border on some technicality.
Reminds me of a strange day last month which I thought was just coincidence.
I went to Nirvana and there were 2 blues sitting in the bank parking lot chatting with each other. One of was facing the Nirvana door since were talking side by side thru driver side window. I waited about 15 minutes so I left since they were still chatting. Strike one.
I headed to Great where I saw at least 6 blues in between the sub and burger place. Strike two. Thinking with my little head, I headed to OB.
I circled OB (and USA) a few times and didn't see anything. I parked in the back of OB and I had a normal session. But while I was waiting to walk out at the end, MMS let in 2 asian men who seemed more like management than customers.
Didn't see anything in news and I went back to Nirvana (Ida) twice since until this week.
[QUOTE=TheSunDevil;6845980]Takeout finally called back. Short term closure. Had a problem with import / export. New rotation got stuck at the border on some technicality.[/QUOTE]Finally the news we all wanted to hear. Thank god.
[QUOTE=TheSunDevil;6845980]Takeout finally called back. Short term closure. Had a problem with import / export. New rotation got stuck at the border on some technicality.[/QUOTE]This is the kind of news that makes a hangover immediately improve. Amazing. Intel Acquired. This Right Here Is Why You're The Best, Boss. Side note: Definitely check out red mountain massage. They're good, pricey though.
[QUOTE=TheSunDevil;6845980]Takeout finally called back. Short term closure. Had a problem with import / export. New rotation got stuck at the border on some technicality.[/QUOTE]Thank goodness. Hopefully it gets figured out soon and it's back to normal asap.
[QUOTE=KungFuLuvr;6845893]I bet the owners started seeing an increase in BBFS and so they shut it down to prevent std's from spreading. I bet when they open back up that will not be offered anymore.[/QUOTE]My guess that maybe something did spread.
[QUOTE=Cmb41;6832990]Does she have the normal tip of 160 for FS? Or does she charge more like all the other non Asian providers?[/QUOTE]I'm late on posting but I went to see her after seeing the original report. It was a fantastic time, probably in my top 3 AMP experiences.
To be upfront. If you're more about the action, you may be off seeing one of the standard asian providers. She doesn't do a body slide in the shower, it's actually just a standing shower. When we went back to the room, she gave me a quick massage before flipping and getting to the fun part. Unfortunately no TUMA though. She has a great body, big tits and big ass as reported by others. It's a nice change up from the usual providers as they usually just have a small or totally flat ass. Even when fellow mongers claim otherwise LOL the only asses that I've seen who are worth repeating are now (mamasan Linda on the east side and Sunflower on the west (haven't heard about her in a long time. Anyone have info? Also having no language barrier was nice, she seems like a cool chick and fun to be around. She may not be what everyone prefers but I've personally grown tired of the standard AMP experience so I stopped going for the most part.
Jessica says she comes back from time to time and will do a weekend at great. I wish there was an easy way to know when she's back because I would love to see her again.
[QUOTE=TheNewGuy20;6338670]Hey guys,
Been meaning to get this out here for a while just needed time to sit down and do it. Wanted to provide some insight on some of the providers I've seen along the way. Some of these providers I saw a long time ago, so I can't remember all the exact details, but here is what I do remember for providers who still had links I could find:
July:
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/us/arizona/phoenix/body-rubs/2751694[/URL]
My experience with her has been pretty consistent with what others have reported here. I think she actually looks better in person than the pics. Nice B2B slide is provided. It seemed like the menu opened up a little bit more the more I visited her, but YMMV. I think for $100 the value and service are incredible though. She does talk quite a bit so just be aware of that. Shower is also available, which is needed because she uses quite a bit of oil.
Jenny Loves:
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/us/arizona/phoenix/body-rubs/2815350[/URL]
Saw her and enjoyed the experience overall. Pics are fairly accurate, she's a little thick but nothing bad at all IMO. The shower was nice, the experience was very sensual. The only thing that keeps me from going back is the price ($325), that's just a little outside my price range for someone I want to see regularly.
Jenny:
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/us/arizona/phoenix/body-rubs/2006266[/URL]
This was a while ago, but I remember the pics being fairly accurate. Price was as advertised. I remember a pretty mediocre experience and never went back. Handy was provided.
Tifani Lane:
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/us/arizona/phoenix/body-rubs/1371739[/URL]
I'd say pictures here are mostly accurate, with some nice angles / lighting, seemed a little heavier in person but nothing extreme. The price was as advertised. Massage was OK. Topless B2 B was provided towards the end, and she did allow some DATY but YMMV. Scheduling ahead of time was required with her. Not a bad experience but never really felt a pull to return.
Tyler:
[URL]https://adultsearch.com/us/arizona/phoenix/body-rubs/2754145[/URL]
Had an OK experience here. There was no upsell. This was a little while ago, I remember paying around $120 but she may have changed pricing by now. Topless B2 B was provided. There is no way she is 36, if I were to guess, I'd guess late 40's early 50's. Pictures look older. Never felt a real pull to return to this one, experience was ok.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for this review. I'll be in Phoenix tomorrow and I might give Tyler a try. I'll be staying downtown and looking for an outcall or someone who maybe isn't too far for an Uber.
Happy Easter to all.
As my round was rained out today, I decided to do my grocery shopping at Fry's.
To my delight I saw the open sign on at Spring.
HAPPY Sunday!
[QUOTE=AzLionsFan01;6846824]Happy Easter to all.
As my round was rained out today, I decided to do my grocery shopping at Fry's.
To my delight I saw the open sign on at Spring.
HAPPY Sunday![/QUOTE]Anyone worried with the sudden stoppage and starting a week later that LE did bust and now they are reopened with LE setting up and watching everything?
Or am I just thinking of the worst case scenario and I'm overthinking it?
[QUOTE=Cmb41;6846836]Anyone worried with the sudden stoppage and starting a week later that LE did bust and now they are reopened with LE setting up and watching everything?
Or am I just thinking of the worst case scenario and I'm overthinking it?[/QUOTE]One always has to take everything into consideration, but rest assured I am not LE, just reporting what I saw.
[QUOTE=Cmb41;6846836]Anyone worried with the sudden stoppage and starting a week later that LE did bust and now they are reopened with LE setting up and watching everything?
Or am I just thinking of the worst case scenario and I'm overthinking it?[/QUOTE]You're not the only one, personally I stay away (for now) till the dust settles. I recall reading a bust long time ago and they did exactly just that.
But it was only for ONE day.
Now you've got to ask yourself "Do I feel lucky today?. Well?? Do you?" .
[QUOTE=AzLionsFan01;6846843]One always has to take everything into consideration, but rest assured I am not LE, just reporting what I saw.[/QUOTE]Not saying you were! Just weary of going right away just in case that is what's going on.
[QUOTE=NegroCaliente;6338853]Has any one reached out to this one or seen her?
[URL]https://rubmd.com/phoenix-az/3dae6907-50a6-4647-985f-92c89bd445be[/URL][/QUOTE]I can never get rubmd to load into my browser. Do you have to use a special location with your VPN?
Driving west to a family get together I figured I'd stop by the 3 in Mesa to check them out.
Confirm spring looks to be open.
Aloha still dark.
Top has their massage light on, but not the open sign.
[QUOTE=Cmb41;6846836]Anyone worried with the sudden stoppage and starting a week later that LE did bust and now they are reopened with LE setting up and watching everything?
Or am I just thinking of the worst case scenario and I'm overthinking it?[/QUOTE]You are overthinking it. Let's say they raid the place while you are being "serviced". You are simply there for a massage, which is true. You won't answer any of their questions without an attorney present and ask if you are free to go. If they say no, keep your mouth shut and retain an attorney.
I believe the reason a lot of these places have lasted as long as they have has been that:
1. The police are on private property.
2. All activities are between CONSENTING adults. If there were any human trafficking involved, they'd be gone by now.
3. None of the participants are helpful in a lawsuit, the DA likes to win lawsuits. Your "victim" is someone with limited English proficiency who enjoys making large amounts of cash and is specifically there to achieve that. The customer is there to be entertained and provide said payment. Deep stuff, I know.
4. In the event that the police go in, have sex, and then use it to justify raiding the place. Well, that didn't go so well in court last year in Flagstaff where they violated:
ARS 13-1412: "A peace officer commits unlawful sexual conduct by knowingly engaging in sexual contact. With any person who is in the officer's custody or. The subject of an investigation. ".
Which leaves me with this thought. The activity is in private, between consenting adults, entrapment is likely to get thrown out of court, and as long as the place hasn't become a public nuisance with loitering and / or drug use. What have they got?
If I'm the police and I want to bust people for prostitution, I set up a sting in a low rent hotel. Your date is a cop, the location is controlled by the jurisdiction, there are hidden cameras to collect evidence like you saying "I want to fuck. ", and you literally have no rights. I don't know about your area, but I can't get police to show up for porch pirates, petty theft, speeding, loud vehicles, and probably other things the police are just too busy to do anything about. Adults having sex in private is low on the priority list unless someone is actively complaining. Let's help keep it that way.
[QUOTE=WalterM;6847003]You are overthinking it. Let's say they raid the place while you are being "serviced". You are simply there for a massage, which is true. You won't answer any of their questions without an attorney present and ask if you are free to go. If they say no, keep your mouth shut and retain an attorney.
I believe the reason a lot of these places have lasted as long as they have has been that:
1. The police are on private property.
2. All activities are between CONSENTING adults. If there were any human trafficking involved, they'd be gone by now.
3. None of the participants are helpful in a lawsuit, the DA likes to win lawsuits. Your "victim" is someone with limited English proficiency who enjoys making large amounts of cash and is specifically there to achieve that. The customer is there to be entertained and provide said payment. Deep stuff, I know.
4. In the event that the police go in, have sex, and then use it to justify raiding the place. Well, that didn't go so well in court last year in Flagstaff where they violated:
ARS 13-1412: "A peace officer commits unlawful sexual conduct by knowingly engaging in sexual contact. With any person who is in the officer's custody or. The subject of an investigation. ".
Which leaves me with this thought.[/QUOTE]He is not over thinking it at all. If a LEO goes to an establishment, and is offered any thing besides a legit massage for money, that is all that is needed to get a warrant, it is more than enough to arrest the provider on the spot. There is prevailing case law regarding it. Does not matter that it is public property or not, the majority of crimes are committed on private property. The the does not file lawsuits, they file criminal charges, and l guess that you have not heard about translators, that it is easy for visa's to get revoked. I don't know where your knowledge came from, but it is not from any lawyer or anyone who has been involved in law enforcement. I saw many places get shut down in another state because of one workers offing to one LEO and them closing and reopening just to set the place uop as a sting operation.
[QUOTE=WalterM;6847003]You are overthinking it. Let's say they raid the place while you are being "serviced". You are simply there for a massage, which is true. You won't answer any of their questions without an attorney present and ask if you are free to go. If they say no, keep your mouth shut and retain an attorney.
[/QUOTE]Great post. The only time the busts really matter now is if they have a financial crimes investigation and get the owners for money laundering with huge chunks of cash stashed in residential properties that get raided. In general it's actually ridiculous for them to even bother as our hobby and business is far from a true crime.
Any new update?
[QUOTE=TheSunDevil;6845980]Takeout finally called back. Short term closure. Had a problem with import / export. New rotation got stuck at the border on some technicality.[/QUOTE]
Anyone know where she is working at this week?
Rubmaps is showing that Spring, Aloha, Paradise, and Tops as being closed.
[QUOTE=RWolt60;6847997]Rubmaps is showing that Spring, Aloha, Paradise, and Tops as being closed.[/QUOTE]That's already been mentioned here. And as also previously mentioned, Rubmaps just reports what people tell them. These places are closed. So people are reporting them to Rubmaps as closed. It's not really any different than people reporting here that they are currently closed. It doesn't necessarily mean anything one way or the other as to whether they are temporarily closed or permanently closed.
[QUOTE=AzLionsFan01;6846824]Happy Easter to all.
As my round was rained out today, I decided to do my grocery shopping at Fry's.
To my delight I saw the open sign on at Spring.
HAPPY Sunday![/QUOTE]Drove by spring after going to fry's today and it's dark again. Why open for one day (on Easter of all days too, can't imagine they would be very busy) and then back to being closed?
[QUOTE=Cmb41;6848075]Drove by spring after going to fry's today and it's dark again. Why open for one day (on Easter of all days too, can't imagine they would be very busy) and then back to being closed?[/QUOTE]I called them at 930 this morning and they said they were open and Angel and Mandy were working.
A good chain of AMP went down with no warning. I still think Lunar New Year and travel restrictions can cover it for now. I personally was underwhelmed by some of the talent during the new year. My decision is to wait until the dust settles and go scouting locations. Once the snowbirds head out, us Desert Rats can get back to fucking some attractive Asian ladies. Hope everyone enjoyed Eostre.