Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Zooman]Went to Magic spa for the first time and thought I would give it a try. Little nervous with the parking lot facing the street. After going into the room, a girl named Candy entered. Very nice looking. After getting cleaned up with a shower, went back to room for the massage. She started with walking on my back and legs, then went for massaging shoulders and lower back. After that, did the flip or a light massage on shoulders and chest. I "fell" asleep and started dreaming of fighting over agreements with my business clients about upsales charges. No full charges were billed to my account, but after meeting half way on charges, I woke up to a happy ending to my dream. My score card of the day:

Location---3
Looks---8
Massage of back and shoulders---5 (could of spent some more time besides walking on my back)
Quality of dream---8
Price---4 (after .8 for building charge, it was another .8 for time spent for a total 1.6.)[/QUOTE]

why not park down the street and walk up or go after sun down. Personally I could care less and I drive p to any AMP like I own it, but I understand you may have an embarrassing situation if you meet your boss there. Then again, maybe not - it might be a male bonding experience. Hahaha!

[QUOTE=Troop]I've seen Nana and Candy in the last week.[/QUOTE]

Height/weight/hair length/boob size - that sort of thing and a rating for skills.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Clinton Bush]Height/weight/hair length/boob size. That sort of thing and a rating for skills.

Thanks[/QUOTE] Idid not go into any detail because BigFella just went through this a few days ago. Rather than go over the same stuff already reported, I will just say I disagree with BF re: Nanas snatch. After the table shower and so so massage, the negotiations went smoothly. Here I would like to stop and thank the members of this board. It was my first trip to a Spa and it was made easy because I knew what to expect because of the fine members here. Now, Nanas snatch felt just fine to me. My problem is with rubbers. So after twenty min of diff positions. She yanked the rubber and finished me with a HJ. I would do her again. Candy has a little nicer body. She wanted more than I wanted to spend that day so she took me to a happy ending with a HJ and a finger so far up my ass, she could pick my nose. NANA 80 130 FS CANDY 80 60 hjfua

MAGIC was cool, clean and comfortable. Management was plesent and the girls were pretty, friendly and had nice bodies. Mid 20s, clean and smelled good. Both Nana and Candy were playful and wanted me to be happy. Each girl let me roam all over. Nana rubbed her kitty all over my backside during massage. I liked that. Candy used a towel until I reached back and got rid of it, only to find she was wearing pantys. Both were naked after the flip. I enjoyed every part of both visits and I will go again. For one thing, I want get fs from Candy.

[QUOTE=Troop]Idid not go into any detail because BigFella just went through this a few days ago. Rather than go over the same stuff already reported, I will just say I disagree with BF re: Nanas snatch. After the table shower and so so massage, the negotiations went smoothly. Here I would like to stop and thank the members of this board. It was my first trip to a Spa and it was made easy because I knew what to expect because of the fine members here. Now, Nanas snatch felt just fine to me. My problem is with rubbers. So after twenty min of diff positions. She yanked the rubber and finished me with a HJ. I would do her again. Candy has a little nicer body. She wanted more than I wanted to spend that day so she took me to a happy ending with a HJ and a finger so far up my ass, she could pick my nose. NANA 80 130 FS CANDY 80 60 hjfua[/QUOTE]

It sounds like we all want some Candy
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISlAMQurClA&feature=fvw[/url]

I had some good and some not so good experiences with AMPs. The best was at Aloha Spa in Clearwater, but only with Sunshine, who seems to be appearing and disappearing at random. I never saw her again. This was 2 years ago and subsequent visits there with alternate providers like Candi, were less then fulfilling. And adding 120 to the house fee of 80 – I could have had my choice of many GFE providers in the area.

This made me look for other massage or body rub providers. Again with some good and some not so good results.

Then I found Teri. Teri is a licensed massage therapist, whose license is currently expired, but she is working on a renewal. Her massage is absolute tops! I have never had a better massage anywhere, and I have had one a month for at least the last 15 years. Besides this top notch therapeutic massage, there are extras that make her service stand out from the crowd. First of all there is no draping required. Second, she massages in the nude. Third, there is a HE after the flip. Sure, it is only a handshake, but there is lots of playing with the boys and fingering below. Third, she allows touching everywhere except her p*ssy. After all that, she comes in the shower with you and washes all the oil off and offers a second handshake if you are up to it. I have never taken advantage of that. And all that for 125 for a full hour. You just can't beat this.

Her incall is in her private apartment in a nice building on south Armenia in Hyde Park with plenty of street parking available right in front of her house. This is her ad on BP under Body Rubs:

[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/_9829_sexxxy_xcaspe_9829_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1451158[/url]

Teri is currently out of town but should be back by this week end. Look for a new ad by then or wait until Monday before calling her. It will be the best experience you can have. Enjoy! Bill

Thanks Bill.

The Teri information is some I can use.

I've seen her ad but was wary.

[QUOTE=Bill Ho]I had some good and some not so good experiences with AMPs. The best was at Aloha Spa in Clearwater, but only with Sunshine, who seems to be appearing and disappearing at random. I never saw her again. This was 2 years ago and subsequent visits there with alternate providers like Candi, were less then fulfilling. And adding 120 to the house fee of 80 – I could have had my choice of many GFE providers in the area.

This made me look for other massage or body rub providers. Again with some good and some not so good results.

Then I found Teri. Teri is a licensed massage therapist, whose license is currently expired, but she is working on a renewal. Her massage is absolute tops! I have never had a better massage anywhere, and I have had one a month for at least the last 15 years. Besides this top notch therapeutic massage, there are extras that make her service stand out from the crowd. First of all there is no draping required. Second, she massages in the nude. Third, there is a HE after the flip. Sure, it is only a handshake, but there is lots of playing with the boys and fingering below. Third, she allows touching everywhere except her p*ssy. After all that, she comes in the shower with you and washes all the oil off and offers a second handshake if you are up to it. I have never taken advantage of that. And all that for 125 for a full hour. You just can't beat this.

Her incall is in her private apartment in a nice building on south Armenia in Hyde Park with plenty of street parking available right in front of her house. This is her ad on BP under Body Rubs:

[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/_9829_sexxxy_xcaspe_9829_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1451158[/url]

Teri is currently out of town but should be back by this week end. Look for a new ad by then or wait until Monday before calling her. It will be the best experience you can have. Enjoy! Bill[/QUOTE]

She looks yummy and well worth checking out. I love a nice ball massage and I am a big fan of the fickle finger of fate. Good find!

Regards,
CB

After reading Bills post, I was thinking that it might be a bad idea mentioning anything about a provider's licensing situation on here.

[QUOTE=Bushluver]After reading Bills post, I was thinking that it might be a bad idea mentioning anything about a provider's licensing situation on here.[/QUOTE]It was just a dream Bill had anyway. Means nothing in the real world. BTW I want to share a dream or two with you guys.

Later

I dreamed I went to MAGIC again. I had unfinished business with Candy. I was told Candy was busy and heres Yumi. WOW ! TS, masssage, yada,yada, now on with the dream. Full menu was available. FS,DATY,69 with BBBJ . Again, WOW! Worth evey penny of my dream. Yumi was hot and said some wonderful things. (what I could understand) I want to dream that again. Now that I think about it, there was no massage. TS down to business. She asked what I had been paying and what I got. She gave it to me for that. And I got a lot more.

I agree with Clinton Bush 100% Well worth the visit.

[QUOTE=Bill Ho]I had some good and some not so good experiences with AMPs. The best was at Aloha Spa in Clearwater, but only with Sunshine, who seems to be appearing and disappearing at random. I never saw her again. This was 2 years ago and subsequent visits there with alternate providers like Candi, were less then fulfilling. And adding 120 to the house fee of 80 – I could have had my choice of many GFE providers in the area.

This made me look for other massage or body rub providers. Again with some good and some not so good results.

Then I found Teri. Teri is a licensed massage therapist, whose license is currently expired, but she is working on a renewal. Her massage is absolute tops! I have never had a better massage anywhere, and I have had one a month for at least the last 15 years. Besides this top notch therapeutic massage, there are extras that make her service stand out from the crowd. First of all there is no draping required. Second, she massages in the nude. Third, there is a HE after the flip. Sure, it is only a handshake, but there is lots of playing with the boys and fingering below. Third, she allows touching everywhere except her p*ssy. After all that, she comes in the shower with you and washes all the oil off and offers a second handshake if you are up to it. I have never taken advantage of that. And all that for 125 for a full hour. You just can't beat this.

Her incall is in her private apartment in a nice building on south Armenia in Hyde Park with plenty of street parking available right in front of her house. This is her ad on BP under Body Rubs:

[url]http://tampa.backpage.com/BodyRubs/_9829_sexxxy_xcaspe_9829_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1451158[/url]

Teri is currently out of town but should be back by this week end. Look for a new ad by then or wait until Monday before calling her. It will be the best experience you can have. Enjoy! Bill[/QUOTE]



I too have had the pleasure of meeting Teri. The above post is 100% truth. Not only did she provide an excellent body massage, she also fucked with my mind. After leaving her apartment, I had to sit in my car for about 15 minutes before I was able to drive away. She told me she also offers a 90 minute massage for $165. The big difference with the upgrade is that instead of being on a massage table, she has you lie on the floor ( I assume with some kind of padding ) and she gives you more body on body contact. On top of all this, she is a super sweet girl with a voice that may hypnotize you. She also has a great personality.

My eyes are running around reading that.. LoL!!

I think everything that goes on with regards to this industry could be in question. But we all have to make a living doing something.

Happy Hunting..


[QUOTE=Scarlett Love]N o l i c e n s e e q u a l s f e l o n y.
P r a c t i c i n g h e a l t h c a r e w i t h o u t a l i c e n s e.

I offer b o d y r u b s also but do not advertise that very much because of this.
Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bushluver]After reading Bills post, I was thinking that it might be a bad idea mentioning anything about a provider's licensing situation on here.[/QUOTE]



Teri advertises Body Rubs...no license needed for that. It does not matter what we call it......only what she calls it.

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29]Teri advertises Body Rubs. No license needed for that. It does not matter what we call it. Only what she calls it.[/QUOTE]You missed the point. Which is mentioning the fact that she is seeking to renew her license, which isn't beneficial here, but it could possibly lead to her being denied a license. Some things are better left unsaid by providers to clients, and by clients in public forums.

"Teri is a licensed massage therapist, whose license is currently expired, but she is working on a renewal."

The only two words in any ad that really matter to most of us are--"Happy Ending"..

As long as she gets that right, that is the grand finale to my session. Unless she is truly a LMT or PT looking to make extra coin, most of these ladies aren't really giving a real deep tissue massage.

If you want a real tissue massage you will have to see real time legit place of business. I know a few of them that I actually go and they do a real good job.

Happy Hunting..

LBB


[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29]Teri advertises Body Rubs...no license needed for that. It does not matter what we call it......only what she calls it.[/QUOTE]

Ive had a good run of luck with the AMPs lately. Yesterday started badly and then much better. I stopped by Seven Stars and apparently they took me for LE. They took one look at me and said "we only have male provider." Out I go. I landed at Yoshiko and was greeted by Mia. Tiny,good looking,great little body. Friendly, playful, acommodating. Enjoyed a nice TS and fair rub. Menu was wide open and I ordered. We made use of the table,chair,walls and bed. Very hot. I will go back again. Clean, cool and fun. Happy ending.

I guess I should thank Seven Star as well.

Long time lurker, rare poster but that changes today. Have to get this out. Went for a drive yesterday, ended up at Nagoya on kennedy (have been there before w/ Judy, and had an alright experience). Normal routine at beginning, until TS, when the attendant (damn if I forgot her name, older skinny lady, oh by the way said she didn't know or ever hear of Judy) covered Mr. Happy with a wash cloth on the flip. Should have known then. Well on to massage which actually was pretty good, then flip, massage a little more then she packed up and left. Asked if she was going to do anything more (specifically) and she said "oh no no no" and left. I'll never go back there, LMTs are way cheaper if its just a massage your after.

[QUOTE=R Consultant]The only two words in any ad that really matter to most of us are--"Happy Ending"..

As long as she gets that right, that is the grand finale to my session. Unless she is truly a LMT or PT looking to make extra coin, most of these ladies aren't really giving a real deep tissue massage.

If you want a real tissue massage you will have to see real time legit place of business. I know a few of them that I actually go and they do a real good job.

Happy Hunting..

LBB[/QUOTE]
Hot black and sweet, with an occasional squirt of cream - this hottie puts Starbucks to shame! I think the line is forming gentlemen. Nice Find, Bill Ho.

[QUOTE=Troop]Ive had a good run of luck with the AMPs lately. Yesterday started badly and then much better. I stopped by Seven Stars and apparently they took me for LE. They took one look at me and said "we only have male provider." Out I go. I landed at Yoshiko and was greeted by Mia. Tiny,good looking,great little body. Friendly, playful, acommodating. Enjoyed a nice TS and fair rub. Menu was wide open and I ordered. We made use of the table,chair,walls and bed. Very hot. I will go back again. Clean, cool and fun. Happy ending.

I guess I should thank Seven Star as well.[/QUOTE]

This girl sounds like a wild one. Tell us more.

[QUOTE=Clinton Bush]This girl sounds like a wild one. Tell us more.[/QUOTE] Mia was short. Well below 5ft. Did not reach my sholders with her heels on. She said she was from San Fran. Soft white skin. Great legs and ass. I've stopped trying to guess the age of these little Asian bombshells. Looked young, thats good enough. Pleasure went like this. DATY, her on bed, me on knees. Standing F***, her leaning against wall, me from behind. Standing F***, me holding her, face to face, legs wrapped arond me. Her chest on little table, me standing with her legs spread, from behind. Again standing, her back on the wall, me standing face to face, legs wrapped around me. Me on the chair, her in my lap, first face to face, then with her back to me. Me leaning against the bed, her back to me. On the bed, mish, doggie. Game over, happy ending.

Wow, I'm going back in boys. And again, I want to thank Seven Stars for turning me away.

I just made a trip to Magic and it was fantastic. I had Candi and she is definitely a beautiful women! I had a great time with her and I felt that she goes above and beyond with regards to the massage and extras. Thanks to the members of this board as it definitely helped me as I knew what to expect. She had my head spinning after all of that. I was negotiating with my client at where I work and I ended up with .8 for the bldg fee and 1.2 for the party favors to go with that room, making a total of 2.00 Definitely worth it!

[QUOTE=Bigfella97]Made 2 trips in the last 2 weeks. Had a great experience and a horrible experience. I'll give the bad first, but it was the second trip.

Went in late on a Monday. Lady at the door took me to the room and that was my girl for the evening. She looked to be mid 30's but what the hell do I know, they all look mid 30's unless they are 18. She had nice, natural tits, nice ass, everything was a little rounder than the typical asian, but my no means fat. Got a little playful on the way to the table shower. Shower was fun. She paid special attention to my special attention needing places. Back to the room, good massage. She climbed all over me. After the flip I didn't wait for her to hint, I took the offensive. Got FS for 120 and she was worth much more. She was really into it. I must have worked her for about 20 minutes and she never was anything other than completely into it. Her name is Candy and id go see her again in a second.

Now. For the bad. After I left my session with Candy. I called back up because I had forgotten her name. Lady on the phone said Nana so thats who I thought it was. For a week. Sunday night I went back. Asked for Nana and was walked to the room my mamason. Door opened and in walked Nana. Young (looked mid 20s), very petite frame, decent fake tits, she just had that asian girl next door look. Thought to myself, this has the potential to be more fun than last time. She got playful before we even left for the shower. Soapy shower was great. Playful back to the room and another good massage. Offered 100 and she moaned and begged until I it 120. She left and came back in got naked and got down to business. She sucks dick like she is trying to get the last of the toothpaste out of the tube. She was squeezing that hard too. I stopped her and got down to the lovin. She fought me every step of the way. On her back, me standing, doggie with her on table and me standing. Her on her side. Every time I got in a good rythym she would shift to a position that really killed the moment. When I was finally able to shut her up and make her be still I started to see the other problem. Her vag. Didn't feel like a vag at all. I can't describe it but I hope none of yall ever have to feel it. She was quite possibly the worst F**K I ever had. If you think you have had the worst piece of ass on the planet, take a run at this chick. Shell take you to a special level of hell. I even asked her mid sex, if it was too late to change over to Candy. She didn't like that.

In short. Candy = Good. Nay. Great!

Nana = Horrible. No. Horrid.

Too tired to go on. I'll report on my trip to body temple later this week.

Big.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bigdog326]Long time lurker, rare poster but that changes today. Have to get this out. Went for a drive yesterday, ended up at Nagoya on kennedy (have been there before w/ Judy, and had an alright experience). Normal routine at beginning, until TS, when the attendant (damn if I forgot her name, older skinny lady, oh by the way said she didn't know or ever hear of Judy) covered Mr. Happy with a wash cloth on the flip. Should have known then. Well on to massage which actually was pretty good, then flip, massage a little more then she packed up and left. Asked if she was going to do anything more (specifically) and she said "oh no no no" and left. I'll never go back there, LMTs are way cheaper if its just a massage your after.[/QUOTE]



Sounds like you had the owner.
She normally doesn't take people she doesn't know because she has no massage license. Her MOA is usually to take the regulars and have someone else take the new customers. Business is slow and she has problems attracting and keeping good help. Her daughter works there part time.

Because of an arrest she can't get a license. For as long as she owns it, this place will continue to be about the worst possible choice in all of Tampa. She should sell out, move to another state, and start over.

[QUOTE=Vitamin P]Sounds like you had the owner.
She normally doesn't take people she doesn't know because she has no massage license. Her MOA is usually to take the regulars and have someone else take the new customers. Business is slow and she has problems attracting and keeping good help. Her daughter works there part time.

Because of an arrest she can't get a license. For as long as she owns it, this place will continue to be about the worst possible choice in all of Tampa. She should sell out, move to another state, and start over.[/QUOTE]

It wasn't too long ago that Nagoya was one of the top choices in Tampa. A mother + daughter session would be pretty hot though.

Does anyone know how many owners actually provide for their own shops? I only know of a few that do. Others just manage the employees.

Please pm if you don't want to post here.

Happy Hunting..

[QUOTE=R Consultant]Does anyone know how many owners actually provide for their own shops? I only know of a few that do. Others just manage the employees.

Please pm if you don't want to post here.

Happy Hunting..[/QUOTE]

I went to Bodyworks by the Sarasota airport 2 years ago really early am and there were no girls there. Just the female owner. She was mature and looked around a 5 overall. I was in need though so I didn't leave.

She actually gave me a great time, spent a few hours making sure every part of me felt great. I think the shop is closed now, but she also owned a few Tampa shops as well at the time.

BH

[QUOTE=R Consultant]Does anyone know how many owners actually provide for their own shops? I only know of a few that do. Others just manage the employees.

Please pm if you don't want to post here.

Happy Hunting..[/QUOTE]

I don't know they actually "own" the businesses (there my be "investors") but these ladies do run their businesses and actually do awesome sessions

Cindy at Final Touch - a sweetheart, the ultimate girl next door
Tammy at OK Spa - just the sweetest AMP girl I know

They have 2 things in common - they are both very intelligent and very caring

Sorry I don't like those damn search engines running around finding comments, ya know! But yeah, it took me weeks to have the courage to even take my table into my office. F E L O N Y is the point!

[QUOTE=R Consultant]My eyes are running around reading that.. LoL!!

I think everything that goes on with regards to this industry could be in question. But we all have to make a living doing something.

Happy Hunting..[/QUOTE]

I appreciate you letting me know. I can understand why you do that now.

Happy Hunting..


[QUOTE=Scarlett Love]Sorry I don't like those damn search engines running around finding comments, ya know! But yeah, it took me weeks to have the courage to even take my table into my office. F E L O N Y is the point![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sexy Cytoguy]I just made a trip to Magic and it was fantastic. I had Candi and she is definitely a beautiful women! I had a great time with her and I felt that she goes above and beyond with regards to the massage and extras. Thanks to the members of this board as it definitely helped me as I knew what to expect. She had my head spinning after all of that. I was negotiating with my client at where I work and I ended up with .8 for the bldg fee and 1.2 for the party favors to go with that room, making a total of 2.00 Definitely worth it![/QUOTE]Did Candy allow DATY in her FS? Ive been with her in the past but did not pay for FS .

[QUOTE=Troop]Ive had a good run of luck with the AMPs lately. Yesterday started badly and then much better. I stopped by Seven Stars and apparently they took me for LE. They took one look at me and said "we only have male provider." Out I go. I landed at Yoshiko and was greeted by Mia. Tiny,good looking,great little body. Friendly, playful, acommodating. Enjoyed a nice TS and fair rub. Menu was wide open and I ordered. We made use of the table,chair,walls and bed. Very hot. I will go back again. Clean, cool and fun. Happy ending.

I guess I should thank Seven Star as well.[/QUOTE]

I must confess that the Yo was my favorite dream back when they had all the young hot little things with big enhanced mammaries. Looks like a resurgence is under way as Magic, I believe, is under the same ownership.

[QUOTE=Four For 5]I must confess that the Yo was my favorite dream back when they had all the young hot little things with big enhanced mammaries. Looks like a resurgence is under way as Magic, I believe, is under the same ownership.[/QUOTE]



Magic & Yoshiko are owned by the same company. I have been to Magic many times and the service I received when I originally went was fantastic, to just mediocre on my last few visits. Magic was my favorite spot at one time until I found a different place that I like much better.
Yoshiko.............been there twice and had a bad expierence both times. On my last visit the massage was so rough, I felt like a piece of meat being handled by a longshoreman. After the flip, the provider kept ignoring me as to what I wanted and what position I wanted.

[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29]Magic & Yoshiko are owned by the same company. I have been to Magic many times and the service I received when I originally went was fantastic, to just mediocre on my last few visits. Magic was my favorite spot at one time until I found a different place that I like much better.
Yoshiko.............been there twice and had a bad expierence both times. On my last visit the massage was so rough, I felt like a piece of meat being handled by a longshoreman. After the flip, the provider kept ignoring me as to what I wanted and what position I wanted.[/QUOTE]

You can pm me if you would rather keep it hush-hush.

Well with all the reports I went to Magic (figured I should get some while I can). Older lady answered the door. She put me in a room. Then Nana walked in, I was hoping for Mia from what I read in the posts. But I furgured I give her a spin. I got the shower she took her time washing me. Gave a good rub. She is pretty her tits looks great but when you touch them you can tell there all fake. She had to have been real flat! Them we got to it, BJ. ontop. vertical mambo (I keep thinking about the "wall" but I'll save that for next time. The best thing best part was there was no rushing like Yoshiko. Got to take my time did all I wanted.

[QUOTE=Troop]Did Candy allow DATY in her FS? Ive been with her in the past but did not pay for FS .[/QUOTE]Actually I didnt do DATY with her but just finger action and she liked it a lot. I think she may have been open to it. She was really good and I was happy with her.

[QUOTE=Xpsmaster]Well with all the reports I went to Magic (figured I should get some while I can). Older lady answered the door. She put me in a room. Then Nana walked in, I was hoping for Mia.[/QUOTE]Is MIA at Magic now?

I saw her last week at Yoshiko. I know they they move around a lot.

[QUOTE=Sexy Cytoguy]Actually I didnt do DATY with her but just finger action and she liked it a lot. I think she may have been open to it. She was really good and I was happy with her.[/QUOTE]I guess Im a bit retarded. I ment to pm you rather than post my question. I post from my phone most times and sometimes in the blind. Anyway I think my fav at Magic is Yumi. She is a lot of fun.

With all the glowing reports here on Magic I decided to give it a shot a couple days ago.

A TOTAL DISAPPOINTMENT !!!!

I drew Nana in the rotation. There's something weird about her gangly look. Like a cross between a china doll and a giraffe.
I'd give her a 3 for overall looks.
6 for attitude and willingness to please.
2 for talent.

More power to you guys who like her but she's not at all my cup of tea.
I'd rather have the 50 year old grandmother type who knows how to stroke a dick.

Teri the Massage Therapist in Bill Ho post # 1247 . Icalled Teri on Sunday after her return to town. She called me back on Tuesday afternoon. Very nice, sexy voice and friendly. I got an appointment for Thursday at two. Teri called me at one to confirm the appointment. I leave the office and arrive at her Apt at five till two. She calls and says shes running late. She asks if we can make it 2:15 ? Yes I say. She lives 10 min from my office, so I set aside 1 1/2 hours for this appointment. At 2:30 , no Teri. I call and she is very sorry for running late. Asks me to please dont leave and is two min away. At 2:50 she calls and says "IM coming down to open security gate to let me in. Ten min later I get in my car and go back to the office hot, tired and surly. Ten min after I leave, she calls. I did not answer because I would have been very unpleasent.