Rants Opinions and Totally Pointless Bullshit

[QUOTE=RichHam;3651475]I've been numerous times more just because they give a good massage. Recently stopped going because one of the new girls kept insisting that I should give her a bigger tip. I knew I wasn't going to get anything extra so I declined as politely as I could. She huffed and puffed throughout the session.[/QUOTE]Why was she asking for a bigger tip before the massage was over? That's unusual unless a HJ is offered. I'm going to guess that you are talking about Jessica / Grace or whatever name she is going by now. She told Tina that I am a bad customer and go everywhere in town looking for a HJ. Now Tina won't let me schedule an appointment anymore. Honestly, you should tell Tina how she acted toward you or just see one of the other girls. Tina, Lisa, and Sunny (I think) have never mentioned a tip to me and all of them give a good massage.

[QUOTE=Jayb2003;3656343]Why was she asking for a bigger tip before the massage was over? That's unusual unless a HJ is offered. I'm going to guess that you are talking about Jessica / Grace or whatever name she is going by now. She told Tina that I am a bad customer and go everywhere in town looking for a HJ. Now Tina won't let me schedule an appointment anymore. Honestly, you should tell Tina how she acted toward you or just see one of the other girls. Tina, Lisa, and Sunny (I think) have never mentioned a tip to me and all of them give a good massage.[/QUOTE]Never did ask what her name was. When you phrase it like that, I'm starting to wonder if she was angling for a tip to do a HJ. They made me pay upfront before the session which I thought was strange. I gave a standard 20% but she didn't seem to be happy with it. Like I said, I was there for a straight massage, wasn't looking for extras. Honestly don't think I'll ever go back. They're not the only game in town.

Several places are starting to get paid before the massage begins because they have been ripped off so often. Guys will come in and try to pay when leaving with a maxed out card and then claim it is the card reader insisting they have plenty of money available on the card, then leave without making effort to make sure the business is paid. Other men will use the old "I left my billfold at home or in the car I'll get it and be right back. Problem is they never go back. I always pay for the massage up front but tell them I will tip when it's over. That way the girl has the incentive to give me A good massage, hoping I will give her a good tip. I don't tip based on a percentage but on how good the massage was. Usually for a 30 minute I will tip 15 to 20 dollars for a 60 minute anywhere from 20 to $35.00 and occasionally $40. Just my opinion but a 20% tip doesn't sound like much, that's what I tip at Shoney's. The worst tip I have given was last week when I got a very sorry massage. I started not to tip at all but ended up deciding to give her 10. I will post more about that later. Again just my opinion but always tip after the massage.

Some places are starting to ask for payment up front to keep from getting ripped off. Guys will try to use a maxed out card and when it won't go through blame it on the card reader claiming there is plenty of available money on the card. Some will even use the old" I forgot my billfold at home I'll go get it and be right back. " Problem is they never go back. Regardless of where I go I pay for the massage up front but the tip always when the massage is over. That way the girl doesn't know what the tip will be and give me a good massage hoping for a good tip.

[QUOTE=RichHam;3657315]Never did ask what her name was. When you phrase it like that, I'm starting to wonder if she was angling for a tip to do a HJ. They made me pay upfront before the session which I thought was strange. I gave a standard 20% but she didn't seem to be happy with it. Like I said, I was there for a straight massage, wasn't looking for extras. Honestly don't think I'll ever go back. They're not the only game in town.[/QUOTE]Eden is the only place in Murfreesboro that makes you pay for the massage first. They just started doing that earlier this year. I've heard stories from several girls at other places that some guys will walk out without paying if they don't get what they want. The girls are still responsible to pay half of the fee to the house. I don't really like paying first because it immediately says that they don't trust you but it is their policy and it's for their protection. Its never acceptable in a legitimate massage establishment for the girl to ask for the tip before the massage is finished. And they should never ask for a bigger tip. Maybe Eden is doing enough business that they don't care if they lose customers but, honestly, it sucks that one bad girl will cause some people to go somewhere else. Most of the girls there do a good job.

[QUOTE=Larry19;3657925]Some places are starting to ask for payment up front to keep from getting ripped off. Guys will try to use a maxed out card and when it won't go through blame it on the card reader claiming there is plenty of available money on the card. Some will even use the old" I forgot my billfold at home I'll go get it and be right back. " Problem is they never go back. Regardless of where I go I pay for the massage up front but the tip always when the massage is over. That way the girl doesn't know what the tip will be and give me a good massage hoping for a good tip.[/QUOTE]I would agree with you that we should pay by how good of service we get. In my opinion, RichHam's $12 is a fair tip for a one hour massage only. I assume when you say that you give $20 to $35 and sometimes $40 that you are at least doing diy? I usually start off giving $10 for just a massage. After a few visits, If we have a good connection I will usually tip better and sometimes even go 90 minutes. If a girl tells me that she wants a bigger tip I will not see her again. There are too many other options to put up with a greedy girl. You have to remember, this is a tip. They make $30 before the tip. I also would agree with you that you should always tip at the end of the massage.

[QUOTE=Jayb2003;3658352]I would agree with you that we should pay by how good of service we get. In my opinion, RichHam's $12 is a fair tip for a one hour massage only. I assume when you say that you give $20 to $35 and sometimes $40 that you are at least doing diy? I usually start off giving $10 for just a massage. After a few visits, If we have a good connection I will usually tip better and sometimes even go 90 minutes. If a girl tells me that she wants a bigger tip I will not see her again. There are too many other options to put up with a greedy girl. You have to remember, this is a tip. They make $30 before the tip. I also would agree with you that you should always tip at the end of the massage.[/QUOTE]I guess I'm just someone that likes to tip big. I tip usally 25% at restraunts and when I stay in a motel I leave a nice tip the person that comes in and cleans the room. I enjoy seeing the expression on someones face when they get a tip much larger than they expected. That gives me pleasure. Corny I know but that's how I am. No I don't do myself at any establishments. I can do that at or my wife will do it for me, no need to pay some place for me to do that. I'm just a big tipper.

Arrangements were made a number of hours in advance, the time came for a man to get in the car and go see the lady. But she sends a text asking for the man to text a DP first.

The man politely said he wouldn't do it, so the date was off.

Why would a lady ask for that? What a mood-killer. Before you go to a restaurant, do they ask you text a picture of your gut first?

(Not that the gent is embarrassed about his D. He's not overly-proud, but he's not embarrassed. But that's no reason to point electronic devices at it.).

[QUOTE=Cwbales;3671035]Arrangements were made a number of hours in advance, the time came for a man to get in the car and go see the lady. But she sends a text asking for the man to text a DP first.

The man politely said he wouldn't do it, so the date was off.

Why would a lady ask for that? What a mood-killer. Before you go to a restaurant, do they ask you text a picture of your gut first?

(Not that the gent is embarrassed about his D. He's not overly-proud, but he's not embarrassed. But that's no reason to point electronic devices at it.).[/QUOTE]Check out how to find out where the pic was taken. Assuming it might be for blackmail purposes.

[URL]https://www.howtogeek.com/211427/how-to-see-exactly-where-a-photo-was-taken-and-keep-your-location-private/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Cwbales;3671035]Arrangements were made a number of hours in advance, the time came for a man to get in the car and go see the lady. But she sends a text asking for the man to text a DP first.

The man politely said he wouldn't do it, so the date was off.

Why would a lady ask for that? What a mood-killer. Before you go to a restaurant, do they ask you text a picture of your gut first?

(Not that the gent is embarrassed about his D. He's not overly-proud, but he's not embarrassed. But that's no reason to point electronic devices at it.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FigLeaf;3671738]Check out how to find out where the pic was taken. Assuming it might be for blackmail purposes.

[URL]https://www.howtogeek.com/211427/how-to-see-exactly-where-a-photo-was-taken-and-keep-your-location-private/[/URL][/QUOTE]Providers have several reasons for asking for pic, be it face pic or DP. They seem to think that if you send them the requested pic, you are most likely not LEO. I don't really understand that logic as anyone can send any random pic. Some providers say they will only see you if you send the pic. Some of the more paranoid providers will ask for a DP that also shows your face. I don't send any pic for safety reasons. You can get blackmailed; you could be sending it to LEO, and there is the possibility of LEO finding your pic in a provider's phone if they were to get busted. In most cases, LEO doesn't go through the phones but what if a provider is found dead for whatever reason and you happen to see her that day or around that time? Better to pass up and be safe than sending a pic.

[QUOTE=NashManner;3676749]Yes as I guy that travels for work there are other cities where LE let's people have fun. If I were an escort I would go to those cities instead of being targeted in Nashville. Any good experience I had in Nashville were those that were passing through. That is the weird thing some escorts must be college girls that need a few bucks for one day and quit since they have no history or anything and disappeared forever. They were my best provider experiences and no where to be found.[/QUOTE]Replying here because this is an opinion, not based on any particular research. . .

Let's think about some recent circumstances. During times of economic hardship, more providers turn to the hobby for survival. As more legit jobs open up, a certain percentage will return to 9 to 5 normal life. Nashville had a faster than average recovery, and its depths were not quite as low as in some other areas. (Related: why are there practically zero Asian independents in Nashville? Because the local home-grown Asian demographic is fairly minuscule and tends to skew more middle- to upper-class economically).

Next, hotel rates here have have jumped in the last couple of years, increasing expenses for incall ladies dramatically. Some won't set up shop here at all unless they have multiple appointments locked in. And if loser guys cancel on them, they can quickly end up in the hole. Where's the incentive to work here, then?

This also results in the "big city" contributions that we usually encounter.

Travel logistics: seems like many Atlanta traveling ladies don't venture past Chattanooga, Huntsville providers go to Birmingham, Memphis frequently gets travelers from Little Rock, New Orleans, and Mississippi. Seems like we get a few Knoxville, Chattanooga and Memphis visitors, plus the national tourers.

Then there's the "Seeking Arrangement Effect". . . Part-timers who eschew traditional advertising, so the typical hobbyist never sees them. Who knows, maybe we have a larger talent pool than ever before? Yet it's tough to learn a new etiquette. Maybe too much like the inconvenience of conventional dating.

I don't think Nashville ever developed a strong secondary advertising space beyond the CL / BP options. Other areas have a notable presence on venues like City Vibe, Whatsyourprice, ECCIE, and Humaniplex. Maybe SA is taking that role.

Simultaneous to these trends is the rise in opiate use. More addicts enter the field, possibly displacing better providers who can't compete with the desperate newcomers. Quality of the remaining choices plummets.

I've only been actively hobbying for about 10 years, after a few decades of occasional strip club giggles. Old-timers probably see patterns I miss. There's always the response of "it was way better before X happened," whether X was the closing of the MP's, the shutdown of Escorts dot com or Naughty Reviews, the neutering of CL and BP, etc.

LEO activity can certainly impact our activities, but I think it is incorrect to assert it to be the only factor at work.

Personally, I'm now less inclined to chase the "flavor of the month" types. I tend to fixate on when I can get away to revisit an ATF instead. Probably a little too jaded for my own good.

-Jeepster1.

Well, they are women, so these might be vaguely on-topic; of course the videos have audio, so turn it down if you need to.

First, the downside of makeup mastery. Quite Average Girl turns into Halo Goddess:

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBMh6v7yEOM[/URL]

Next: Hair, by the yard. As if we didn't have enough fetish distractions already. (Bonus: Redhead Russians!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9w89TcJglc[/URL]

I gottta get away from this computer now and then. . .

-Jeepster1.

Looks like Wild Thang resigned as mayor today. Reportedly entered a guilty plea for theft over 10 k. Sentenced to 11 k restitution and three years probation.

Three years of not doing what? Banging LEO?

-Jeepster1.

Note: posted here since it's not directly hobby-related.

Our pussy-grabber in chief is still in the oval office. You know, the place that EVERYONE wants to work, can't wait to work in the White House! Just ask the WH economic adviser Gary Cohn. Wait. Nevermind.

At least our former mayor liked LEO. Our pussy-grabber discredits his own AG and our FBI at every turn. Without any merit or basis of proof.

Whew. / rant.

[QUOTE=ElDuderino1234;3750718]Our pussy-grabber in chief is still in the oval office. You know, the place that EVERYONE wants to work, can't wait to work in the White House! Just ask the WH economic adviser Gary Cohn. Wait. Nevermind.

At least our former mayor liked LEO. Our pussy-grabber discredits his own AG and our FBI at every turn. Without any merit or basis of proof.

Whew. / rant.[/QUOTE]Nothing he said about grabbing them by the pussy is incorrect. Didn't say he actually did it BTW, but if he did, nobody has come forward with it, so they either didn't mind or received some kind of career boost out of it. So far, the pornstar is the only one to say something, and she said it was consensual, and let's face it, if you had the $$, wouldn't you hit that?

Hollywood (and Nashville) is rife with sexual predators, and those who put out to further their career, the problem is identifying who is who in the story.