Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationships

[QUOTE=BorisYaz;3057738]That is quite impressive, JaxSon. Those SB's asking for substantial are the ones I would often avoid, but now I may make an effort to try the same method.

Do svidaniya.

Boris.[/QUOTE]Like I said. It was just the one. But it goes to show that a lot of the gals are often talking out their ass, and when money is on the table sometimes they can't resist.

Another piece of advice, if a girl is a stripper, she usually has quite an inflated value of herself. I don't bother with them anymore. Latinas, African American, and mixed girls is where it's at. Very rarely have I had one of them turn down 150-200. White girls are hit and miss. Some are ready to get down to business, others are living in fantasy land or just too conceited.

I'm going to try this method out. You guys are awesome!

[QUOTE=JaxSon07;3056881]Lots of good advice here. I definitely reiterate what the others have said. Keep the first meeting simple, coffee or a drink and no more. Definitely no money for meet and greet. Be nice and charming, but don't fawn over them too much. Keep them trying to impress you, not the other way around.

Like Boris said, there are a few that read too many magazines and think they can find a guy to give them thousands a week They are pretty easy to detect, and I normally just ignore their profiles or messages. However, recently I was kind of bored with the SA game so I thought I would start chatting up a few of these gals that were asking for a "substantial" amount. I played along, acting like that would be no problem if I found the right woman. I had 3 meet and greets with 3 super hot ladies. Afterwards, when it came time to talk business, I said $250 per meet and the hottest one of the bunch that initially wanted 2 k per meet happily accepted. And to make it even better, she does quickies in the car for free if I throw her a $250 hotel date every couple weeks.

That one is definitely the exception. But if you stay in control and you have a little game with the ladies, there are some gems to be found on there.[/QUOTE]

I just had to share one tidbit from SA that made me laugh.

"I'm looking for a man w manners, who opens my car door of course and pulls my chair out when I sit. Shivering is not dead".

[QUOTE=BorisYaz;3057738]That is quite impressive, JaxSon. Those SB's asking for substantial are the ones I would often avoid, but now I may make an effort to try the same method.

Do svidaniya.

Boris.[/QUOTE]Most of the ladies have no idea to what substantial means. If asked they say it sounded good. Never let what they have listed stop you from inquiring. Theese terms mean something different to each one.

[QUOTE=JaxSon07;3056881]Lots of good advice here. I definitely reiterate what the others have said. Keep the first meeting simple, coffee or a drink and no more. Definitely no money for meet and greet. Be nice and charming, but don't fawn over them too much. Keep them trying to impress you, not the other way around.

Like Boris said, there are a few that read too many magazines and think they can find a guy to give them thousands a week They are pretty easy to detect, and I normally just ignore their profiles or messages. However, recently I was kind of bored with the SA game so I thought I would start chatting up a few of these gals that were asking for a "substantial" amount. I played along, acting like that would be no problem if I found the right woman. I had 3 meet and greets with 3 super hot ladies. Afterwards, when it came time to talk business, I said $250 per meet and the hottest one of the bunch that initially wanted 2 k per meet happily accepted. And to make it even better, she does quickies in the car for free if I throw her a $250 hotel date every couple weeks.

That one is definitely the exception. But if you stay in control and you have a little game with the ladies, there are some gems to be found on there.[/QUOTE]For me if I have a successful m / g and feel the lady has also I start the arrangement talks. If I'm not sure then I think on it for a day or so. If I can't get a read on her then I give her time to think on it. If both are interedted at the end of a m / g strike while the iron is hot.

[QUOTE=Bubbler99;3062180]I just had to share one tidbit from SA that made me laugh.

"I'm looking for a man w manners, who opens my car door of course and pulls my chair out when I sit. Shivering is not dead".[/QUOTE]What a poor creature. This one must not be attending University on academic scholarship. I can say this, that I would never want to be present with her and have to listen to her speak in the same manner. Can one become stupider by mere proximity (let alone other activities)? I would not last for long listening to such a dullard before I would rather be shipped off to a Gulag in Siberia and given hard labor for 5 years.

Do svidanya.

Boris.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3062306]For me if I have a successful m / g and feel the lady has also I start the arrangement talks. If I'm not sure then I think on it for a day or so. If I can't get a read on her then I give her time to think on it. If both are interedted at the end of a m / g strike while the iron is hot.[/QUOTE]You never discuss an arrangement via txt before a m / g? I usually want to know what is going to be expected if we do continue on after a drink. Maybe that is a better approach though.

I say all of that with the exception of the one who came over a few times, hung out, did things teenagers do for nothing at all. I let that go on giving hints after each meeting that I wanted more and could help her out. In the end. She pretty much wanted someone to pay some of her bills in exchange for hanging out and having some make out sessions. LOL. I stopped talking to her after that. It was fun and it didn't cost me a dime, but I'm not sure. It might have been better if she would have just been upfront about it. She would have wasted less time.

I think the lesson here is that everyone is different. There aren't any set in stone sb / sd rules.

[QUOTE=Tony317;3064133]You never discuss an arrangement via txt before a m / g? I usually want to know what is going to be expected if we do continue on after a drink. Maybe that is a better approach though.

I say all of that with the exception of the one who came over a few times, hung out, did things teenagers do for nothing at all. I let that go on giving hints after each meeting that I wanted more and could help her out. In the end. She pretty much wanted someone to pay some of her bills in exchange for hanging out and having some make out sessions. LOL. I stopped talking to her after that. It was fun and it didn't cost me a dime, but I'm not sure. It might have been better if she would have just been upfront about it. She would have wasted less time.

I think the lesson here is that everyone is different. There aren't any set in stone sb / sd rules.[/QUOTE]I don't discuss until after the m / g because I need a connection. My definition of a sb is different from most here. Sex workers are not a sb in my book. You discuss an arrangement by however before meeting a sb that's no different than doing businesses with a hooker or utr. I work the details out so the sb doesn't feel she is being taken advantage off or just plain used. They are here for financial help, they can get fucked anywhere or by who they want to give it to for free. I believe in karma so I'm not out to take advantage of anyone.

[QUOTE=Tony317;3064133]You never discuss an arrangement via txt before a m / g? I usually want to know what is going to be expected if we do continue on after a drink. Maybe that is a better approach though.

I say all of that with the exception of the one who came over a few times, hung out, did things teenagers do for nothing at all. I let that go on giving hints after each meeting that I wanted more and could help her out. In the end. She pretty much wanted someone to pay some of her bills in exchange for hanging out and having some make out sessions. LOL. I stopped talking to her after that. It was fun and it didn't cost me a dime, but I'm not sure. It might have been better if she would have just been upfront about it. She would have wasted less time.

I think the lesson here is that everyone is different. There aren't any set in stone sb / sd rules.[/QUOTE]Just remember that everyone. EVERYONE. Is hustling. 24/7. Especially when it's about sex, money, and / or drugs. Period.

[QUOTE=Covenant60;3064212]Just remember that everyone. EVERYONE. Is hustling. 24/7. Especially when it's about sex, money, and / or drugs. Period.[/QUOTE]I agree. Hopefully what everyone here looks for and the girls they meet are into the first two and not the third. Let's end this shit right now. Stop using BP. Why try again and again and again and again. And get shit?

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3064184]I don't discuss until after the m / g because I need a connection. My definition of a sb is different from most here. Sex workers are not a sb in my book. You discuss an arrangement by however before meeting a sb that's no different than doing businesses with a hooker or utr. I work the details out so the sb doesn't feel she is being taken advantage off or just plain used. They are here for financial help, they can get fucked anywhere or by who they want to give it to for free. I believe in karma so I'm not out to take advantage of anyone.[/QUOTE]This is my general theory as well.

My experience is one group of women just wants to get to business, and you'll know it because they won't really say much in early communication and the "how much" question comes very early. Another group of women is holding out for $5 K / month rich men to dote over them because they're so special. They'll use words like pampered and spoiled and princess and investment. The other group is women that heard about arrangements, are looking into it to see if anything appeals to them, and they largely disappear within two weeks because most of the men on the site talk to them as if they're in the first group or are streetwalkers, when in actuality they're actually looking for someone interesting to them so that their experience feels worthwhile.

As with anything, you can take or leave any of those groups. It's obviously up to you, just like it's up to you if you want to pay $80 for a methhead to barely pretend to like you for 20 min or save up for an hour with Becki who will fuck you like you're the last man on earth.

My personal choice is I'm trying to avoid the hustlers, and there are a lot of hustlers on there.

[QUOTE=Mwdude;3064650]...or save up for an hour with Becki who will fuck you like you're the last man on earth....[/QUOTE]Sorry. This was the only part I read. Which Becki is this? She may need to go on my fantasy list.

[QUOTE=JohnnyAD;3065801]Sorry. This was the only part I read. Which Becki is this? She may need to go on my fantasy list.[/QUOTE][URL]www.beckilebeau.com[/URL]

Not a SB, BTW. Well, at least not on a SB site that I'm aware of. She's all escort, and one of the absolute best.

[QUOTE=Mwdude;3067321][URL]www.beckilebeau.com[/URL]

Not a SB, BTW. Well, at least not on a SB site that I'm aware of. She's all escort, and one of the absolute best.[/QUOTE]I guess that's a matter of opinion, based on attraction. I wouldn't be shelling out that kind of coin for her.

[QUOTE=Mwdude;3067321][URL]www.beckilebeau.com[/URL]

Not a SB, BTW. Well, at least not on a SB site that I'm aware of. She's all escort, and one of the absolute best.[/QUOTE]Becki is the best sex I have ever had (even better than Abby) and it doesn't hurt that I like nerd girls. Even if you don't like that type she will make you feel like a king.