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[QUOTE=Shier;6645416]Man, sometimes I think I've just about had it with Seeking.

Got hit up for a ridiculous amount just after the M&G. We had a nice meeting, and agreed we'd discuss details in text afterwards. She said she wanted "four figures" per meet.

What struck me was that she mentioned that what I offered her "only covered half her rent" (she has roommates). Well, duh. When I was starting out, I counted on a quarter of my salary, a full work-week, to cover my rent. You think you're going to cover yours by going on a date?? By the way, now instead of getting what I offered, you're now taking in: zero.

Note to self: got to go back to getting that out of the way much much earlier, before the M&G, like I used to do. Would definitely have saved time in this case.[/QUOTE]Shier, I am in Portland for a meeting and I hit up several SB's. Targeted late 30's / early 40's (but attractive with nice bodies) as I didn't want to waste time with younger SB's who have a propensity to cancel / flake / show up late, etc. Told them that I travel to Portland often for business. Received a couple of request for $1000 and one wanted dinner at a 5 star restaurant and said her rate was $650 and hour and the meter starts when she begins her 30 minute Uber ride to into town. However, connected Thursday with a MILF for $300 plus dinner / drinks and had a great time. It was so good that we are doing an overnight. Love morning sex.

So, while I agree that it's way harder now than 5-7 years ago, it remains a good option. Just takes more work. Like you, I try and get an idea of how much they want prior to the M&G.

[QUOTE=Shier;6645416]Man, sometimes I think I've just about had it with Seeking.

Got hit up for a ridiculous amount just after the M&G. We had a nice meeting, and agreed we'd discuss details in text afterwards. She said she wanted "four figures" per meet.

What struck me was that she mentioned that what I offered her "only covered half her rent" (she has roommates). Well, duh. When I was starting out, I counted on a quarter of my salary, a full work-week, to cover my rent. You think you're going to cover yours by going on a date?? By the way, now instead of getting what I offered, you're now taking in: zero.

Note to self: got to go back to getting that out of the way much much earlier, before the M&G, like I used to do. Would definitely have saved time in this case.[/QUOTE]I am running into similar problems. The minimum a decent looking 6 or 7 wants is 500. Any others that one would consider an 8 or 9 want 800 to 1 k. Only the older crowd, lower income, or chubbier ones seem to be ok with 300 to 400, but mostly 400 tbh. I am about to give up.

Please stop paying for meet and greets. Been running into more and more SBs that are saying it's their standard. Please for the sake of everyone, stop.

[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;6647892]Please stop paying for meet and greets. Been running into more and more SBs that are saying it's their standard. Please for the sake of everyone, stop.[/QUOTE]If you check out the other rddt forums you will realize a huge number of legit SDs offer generous $$$ just to have m&g or dinner with a hot babe.

But for us Johns here (99% of us here are more John than SD) looking for HOs (LOL OK, UTR hos parading as sbs) its an inconvenience. But it does help them weed us out and vice versa.

[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;6647892]Please stop paying for meet and greets. Been running into more and more SBs that are saying it's their standard. Please for the sake of everyone, stop.[/QUOTE]And while we're at it, can we stop paying average chicks $500 and up? Post after post of dudes paying half a yard to chicks that would most likely go lower if you stood your ground.

[QUOTE=BobDingle10;6648942]And while we're at it, can we stop paying average chicks $500 and up? Post after post of dudes paying half a yard to chicks that would most likely go lower if you stood your ground.[/QUOTE]This is so true. I've had cases where I stood my ground and the chick ends up caving in. I don't ever try to low ball these Sbs, some have pushed the envelope way too far in my view.

[QUOTE=RudyWellz;6645506]Shier, I am in Portland for a meeting and I hit up several SB's. Targeted late 30's / early 40's (but attractive with nice bodies) as I didn't want to waste time with younger SB's who have a propensity to cancel / flake / show up late, etc. Told them that I travel to Portland often for business. Received a couple of request for $1000 and one wanted dinner at a 5 star restaurant and said her rate was $650 and hour and the meter starts when she begins her 30 minute Uber ride to into town. However, connected Thursday with a MILF for $300 plus dinner / drinks and had a great time. It was so good that we are doing an overnight. Love morning sex.

So, while I agree that it's way harder now than 5-7 years ago, it remains a good option. Just takes more work. Like you, I try and get an idea of how much they want prior to the M&G.[/QUOTE]Yeah. It seems as if we have lost the middle ground of dependable and attractive escorts in the $$ range. (Think about the many DC escort agencies not that long ago that advertised quality women.) Today, the SWs with an addiction (regretful enough on its own) who can get on STGs are now considered "escorts". Un-addicted women are on SB and are now "sugar babies" for porn star donations. Past & present porn stars are advertising for mortgage payment rates.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;6580827]Ivanka94.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/863e71cc-7969-49f6-9321-76085d67030a[/URL]

After 4-5 yrs in the bowl I thought I'd seen enough scams to know when to snuff them out, this one caught me slipping. Chatted her up on the site, goes by Sofia. We moved to text, after four or five texts back-and-forth determining that we are on the same page in regards to what we were looking for I asked if she wanted to exchange pics. She said she'd prefer to video chat since you can fake / manipulate pictures. So I said fine, we video chatted for about five minutes, very pretty Latina girl, very innocent looking. No tats, nothing" slutty" or sketchy about her at all. We just kind of felt one another out then made plans to meet the next day. She said she doesn't have a car and that she'd be willing to host as long as we can meet somewhere in public first to make sure she's comfortable. She lives all the way in Silver Spring, so I figured instead of Ubering her to me plus saving the money on a hotel room it would be worth it so I agreed to meet her in her neck of the woods. We decided to meet for coffee at the IHOP near her place. We met for coffee, talked for probably 45 minutes. Talked about all our different experiences on the site, easy conversation lots of smalltalk. She seemed totally cool, totally normal. There was nothing sketchy about her, didn't seem anxious or nervous at all. She mentioned to me a couple of times that she had gotten scammed and so she was a little bit weary of it happening again. I assured her that I wasn't going to scam her.[/QUOTE]Met with her in Silver Spring by a Safeway. Went to an IHOP two minutes away. When she took me to her garage, I told her I will pay when in the room. She refused and said maybe could meet another time. Goes by Dash Diva.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4fdcff9e-7062-49a5-b5d5-7423aa22fcec[/URL]

[QUOTE=Shier;6645416]What struck me was that she mentioned that what I offered her "only covered half her rent" (she has roommates). Well, duh. When I was starting out, I counted on a quarter of my salary, a full work-week, to cover my rent. You think you're going to cover yours by going on a date?? By the way, now instead of getting what I offered, you're now taking in: zero.
[/QUOTE]Stumbled across this, which seems extremely relevant:

[URL]https://x.com/stillgray/status/1717147923816046870[/URL]

This is what we're dealing with.

[QUOTE=IanPrax;6651165]Met with her in Silver Spring by a Safeway. Went to an IHOP two minutes away. When she took me to her garage, I told her I will pay when in the room. She refused and said maybe could meet another time. Goes by Dash Diva.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4fdcff9e-7062-49a5-b5d5-7423aa22fcec[/URL][/QUOTE]She had might as well go by "Cash and Dash Diva" or something like "I Will Rob You."

[QUOTE=Shier;6651862]Stumbled across this, which seems extremely relevant:

[URL]https://x.com/stillgray/status/1717147923816046870[/URL]

This is what we're dealing with.[/QUOTE]Life can be just a little bit hard. Figure it out!

The people that are playing in NYC this one is smoking.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/11819da4-eadc-4bde-a7df-f8642e42bc48[/URL]


I'm chatting with her but I know I can't afford her ass. This is probably a 1 k plus.

[QUOTE=HeyDuhman;6648926]If you check out the other rddt forums you will realize a huge number of legit SDs offer generous $$$ just to have m&g or dinner with a hot babe.

But for us Johns here (99% of us here are more John than SD) looking for HOs (LOL OK, UTR hos parading as sbs) its an inconvenience. But it does help them weed us out and vice versa.[/QUOTE]It's not about being Johns or being SD's, it's about being rich or being poor. This forum caters towards people on the lower side of the income spectrum, just look at the other forums. Check the escorts are discussed in the escorts section. How many people are talking about seeing $500+/ hr girls advertising on Eros or Tryst with professional photos and a website, compared to $100/ qv hoes on Listcrawler and Skipthegames who are barely 6's on a good day.

There used to be a rdt page called pornstarescorts or something where people discussed booking porn stars through agencies or directly through their Eros ads. These are women charging $1000+ an hour, and there's dudes who regularly book them. Not like, once a year on their birthday, at least several times a year, maybe more. Those dudes aren't the same ones here trying to find $50 car blowjobs.

My main gripe with DC isn't the cost, I can afford paying 1,000 for a multi-hour date as long as she's pleasant to talk to, very beautiful, in her 20's, we're doing multiple rounds, and not using condoms. It's that there's nobody worth paying 1,000 to. This isn't the same gripe 90% of the people here have, their gripe is literally that they can't afford $1000 dates every week and girls should be charging "realistic rates" and gosh darnit they'd be able to score hot 18 yo pussy for $80 and a happy meal if it wasn't for those stupid kids (simps) ruining everything, like a fucking scooby do villain says.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6652467]The people that are playing in NYC this one is smoking.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/11819da4-eadc-4bde-a7df-f8642e42bc48[/URL]


I'm chatting with her but I know I can't afford her ass. This is probably a 1 k plus.[/QUOTE]34? I thought over 29 is too old for you, are you loosening your standards?

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6652720]34? I thought over 29 is too old for you, are you loosening your standards?[/QUOTE][URL]https://instagram.com/tamara?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==[/URL]

For her yes.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6652467]The people that are playing in NYC this one is smoking.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/11819da4-eadc-4bde-a7df-f8642e42bc48[/URL].[/QUOTE]I don't get the appeal. I haven't seen her private pic, but what is so special about this one? For that kind of dough, she's really have to have it all, face, bod, performance.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6652719]It's not about being Johns or being SD's, it's about being rich or being poor. This forum caters towards people on the lower side of the income spectrum, just look at the other forums. Check the escorts are discussed in the escorts section. How many people are talking about seeing $500+/ hr girls advertising on Eros or Tryst with professional photos and a website, compared to $100/ qv hoes on Listcrawler and Skipthegames who are barely 6's on a good day.

There used to be a rdt page called pornstarescorts or something where people discussed booking porn stars through agencies or directly through their Eros ads. These are women charging $1000+ an hour, and there's dudes who regularly book them. Not like, once a year on their birthday, at least several times a year, maybe more. Those dudes aren't the same ones here trying to find $50 car blowjobs.

My main gripe with DC isn't the cost, I can afford paying 1,000 for a multi-hour date as long as she's pleasant to talk to, very beautiful, in her 20's, we're doing multiple rounds, and not using condoms. It's that there's nobody worth paying 1,000 to. This isn't the same gripe 90% of the people here have, their gripe is literally that they can't afford $1000 dates every week and girls should be charging "realistic rates" and gosh darnit they'd be able to score hot 18 yo pussy for $80 and a happy meal if it wasn't for those stupid kids (simps) ruining everything, like a fucking scooby do villain says.[/QUOTE]I can't see why people would pay so much for escorts etc.

Actually, I can't get into pro hoes. I need some type of connection.

He'll, the Eros, tryst hoes aren't better looking than the Korean massage parlors from 20 yrs ago.

The dc sbs should be paying me. It's about paying for someone above your level. Hell I'm looking for model thin and everyone is fat as hell.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6653316]I don't get the appeal. I haven't seen her private pic, but what is so special about this one? For that kind of dough, she's really have to have it all, face, bod, performance.[/QUOTE]Looks way too "plastic". The fact that she's a smoker is an immediate disqualifier.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6653413]I can't see why people would pay so much for escorts etc.

Actually, I can't get into pro hoes. I need some type of connection.

He'll, the Eros, tryst hoes aren't better looking than the Korean massage parlors from 20 yrs ago.

The dc sbs should be paying me. It's about paying for someone above your level. Hell I'm looking for model thin and everyone is fat as hell.[/QUOTE]But I'm assuming you've been in this game long enough to know that that's not how it works. Doesn't matter if you have George Clooney's looks, a Mercedes sedan, a ten-bedroom estate, and hung like a pornstar. [U]No SB is ever going to pay to get in any guy's pants.[/U] I mean, why wouldn't these SBs overcharge when enough gullible johns readily fork over the benjamins? Even better in their mind to sucker said john in coughing up funds for simple M&Gs or platonic arrangements. A few years ago, most SBs wouldn't dare ask for more than what the escorts / pros were charging. But that's common practice in the DMV now, and that's what Mcsylv and others are pointing out--that this region has been ruined. Better off saving your money and going on business trips or vacation out-of-state.

Case in point: I've recently jumped back into the Seeking game after taking a little over a year-and-a-half off. Out of 80 messages, I've gotten six responses. Of those six, only one asked for 300 PPM and that was a regular that I'd seen before. The rest were either pic sellers or wanting north of 800. And if I'm being honest, only two of those six were above average. Just insanity that it's gotten this GPS addled in such a short timeframe.

I don't get this one. Claims she's I'm McLean but clearly she's in NYC. I'd assume scammer or fake but her photo is verified.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/834e9001-dc54-49d6-90c9-cf6be1d95f0b[/URL]

[URL]https://instagram.com/hollyylim?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==[/URL]

As per my chat, she is visiting and can host.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6653766]I don't get this one. Claims she's I'm McLean but clearly she's in NYC. I'd assume scammer or fake but her photo is verified.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/834e9001-dc54-49d6-90c9-cf6be1d95f0b[/URL]

[URL]https://instagram.com/hollyylim?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==[/URL][/QUOTE]

Any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/487d98d1-1581-44a4-aa7f-be020aaa9ec0[/URL]

[QUOTE=Joe1278;6653964]As per my chat, she is visiting and can host.[/QUOTE]Told me the same, she's suppose to leave tomorrow. This is a 27 year posting old pictures and Holly Lim is a 22 year old "model / influencer" and * girl: [URL]https://onlyfans.com/hollylim[/URL].

Might be real but not risking it.

[QUOTE=EasyeOne;6654020]Told me the same, she's suppose to leave tomorrow. This is a 27 year posting old pictures and Holly Lim is a 22 year old "model / influencer" and * girl: [URL]https://onlyfans.com/hollylim[/URL].

Might be real but not risking it.[/QUOTE]That's why I call BS. All her Tiktoks etc. have her in NYC.

[QUOTE=TodayHustling;6653983]Any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/487d98d1-1581-44a4-aa7f-be020aaa9ec0[/URL][/QUOTE]Seems real, but wants you to buy her art so she can deliver it to you and meet. Minimum 1 k.

[QUOTE=EasyeOne;6654020]Told me the same, she's suppose to leave tomorrow. This is a 27 year posting old pictures and Holly Lim is a 22 year old "model / influencer" and * girl: [URL]https://onlyfans.com/hollylim[/URL].

Might be real but not risking it.[/QUOTE]It's definitely some type of. Scam. Gave address straight to the room. I'm trolling her now. Whatever scammers won't come outside and wants me to go straight to the room.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6654027]That's why I call BS. All her Tiktoks etc. have her in NYC.[/QUOTE]Anyone take the plunge?

[QUOTE=AdcFellow;6611718]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/66fde806-84b8-44dd-b96c-8a45e5ceab91[/URL]

I think is real, and was willing to meet but seems to have a temper so I stopped corresponding.

[/QUOTE]Hah, very real. I've seen her several times and if she's into you for more than just money, she will suck and fuck you like you're the last man on Earth. But she can be really hard to get a hold of, even if you have her real phone number. Definitely has an attitude, but probably for good reason.

[QUOTE=TodayHustling;6653983]Any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/487d98d1-1581-44a4-aa7f-be020aaa9ec0[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=InsaneManX;6654501]Seems real, but wants you to buy her art so she can deliver it to you and meet. Minimum 1 k.[/QUOTE]Interesting body and overall look. Wouldn't bite for that kind of money. I wonder where exactly she is in Silver Spring? I don't recognize any of the buildings you can see outside her window.

Has anyone had luck using [URL]Luxurydate.com[/URL]?

[QUOTE=Max#01;6655032]Interesting body and overall look. Wouldn't bite for that kind of money. I wonder where exactly she is in Silver Spring? I don't recognize any of the buildings you can see outside her window.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't go higher than $300, and she'd have to pay me to hang that artwork in my house.

You can see more of her here;.

[URL]https://twitter.com/loveariannae[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/loveariannae[/URL]

TikTok: southernsnowwhite

[QUOTE=TheYoungMonger;6655297]I wouldn't go higher than $300, and she'd have to pay me to hang that artwork in my house.

You can see more of her here;.

[URL]https://twitter.com/loveariannae[/URL]

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/loveariannae[/URL]

TikTok: southernsnowwhite[/QUOTE]Yeah she seems a little TOO soft to pay significantly for.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6652719]It's not about being Johns or being SD's, it's about being rich or being poor. This forum caters towards people on the lower side of the income spectrum, just look at the other forums. Check the escorts are discussed in the escorts section. How many people are talking about seeing $500+/ hr girls advertising on Eros or Tryst with professional photos and a website, compared to $100/ qv hoes on Listcrawler and Skipthegames who are barely 6's on a good day.

There used to be a rdt page called pornstarescorts or something where people discussed booking porn stars through agencies or directly through their Eros ads. These are women charging $1000+ an hour, and there's dudes who regularly book them. Not like, once a year on their birthday, at least several times a year, maybe more. Those dudes aren't the same ones here trying to find $50 car blowjobs.

My main gripe with DC isn't the cost, I can afford paying 1,000 for a multi-hour date as long as she's pleasant to talk to, very beautiful, in her 20's, we're doing multiple rounds, and not using condoms. It's that there's nobody worth paying 1,000 to. This isn't the same gripe 90% of the people here have, their gripe is literally that they can't afford $1000 dates every week and girls should be charging "realistic rates" and gosh darnit they'd be able to score hot 18 yo pussy for $80 and a happy meal if it wasn't for those stupid kids (simps) ruining everything, like a fucking scooby do villain says.[/QUOTE]Don't disagree here but let's not get down on people who may not have the financial ammunition to adapt to the reality of things.

OK Gents, Any contact or communications?

Too Sweet-provocative tagline.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/18e02342-5cf8-4ad9-a916-76339fcfe698[/URL]

Cuteness-love a nice natural rack.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0c2d4940-459a-4a26-a5a1-845d5a5580a8[/URL]

DaddiesKitty-has been on the site for a while.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4f611c27-dc27-4f8d-8afa-e6f62dca5363[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/db7a80c6-2257-4704-9f9f-a0653f601b40[/URL]

Previously went by Sofi / Sofie or something like that. Pretty and curvy. Little English. BBBJCIM, CFS, MSOG. Asks 800, will go to 600, maybe lower. I thought she was reviewed previously, but couldn't find any intel.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/70c9ec93-61ac-4ecc-971a-bb4863d847f3[/URL]

She wants 800 so that's no for me.

Will be in DC Nov 15.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e464996f-6464-4b8b-ba47-f3b0fe02600f[/URL]

Not sure if this is the right forum. Any intel on the following?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5cde6494-95c3-420c-8a2b-04373bb7f11f[/URL]

LOL! She wants 1 k for m&g and dinner at a fancy restaurant.

[QUOTE=RudyWellz;6656794]OK Gents, Any contact or communications?

Too Sweet-provocative tagline.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/18e02342-5cf8-4ad9-a916-76339fcfe698[/URL][/QUOTE]Not to harp too strongly, but some of you need to use this forum's search function the right way. Copy the last twelve characters of the URL from a Seeking profile, paste in the search bar, then hit enter. Do not try posting the whole URL. If there's still no results, then there's either been no information reported or it's possibly a new profile a SB established because she forgot her password or any number of other reasons.

In this instance, [B]TooSweet[/B] has a couple reports already. See below:

[QUOTE=AdcFellow;6611718][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/18e02342-5cf8-4ad9-a916-76339fcfe698[/URL]

DTF for $500. Beautiful natural DDs. If you are a big breast lover, she is fantastic.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Arty33;6625805]From recent encounters.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1...6-76339fcfe698[/URL]

DTF, 6 for me, YMMV. Beautiful natural DDs as reported by another member.[/QUOTE]

Any intel on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ee964c83-b1fc-4b57-af9f-b12a2bd98fbe[/URL]

Thank you in advance?

Hoss.