Mongernator thank you for confirming what many of us knew and shared via pm. Your detailed post is the reason many of us don't see girls that are not independent. Dealing with pimps is typical cause of BS and everything else mentioned.
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Mongernator thank you for confirming what many of us knew and shared via pm. Your detailed post is the reason many of us don't see girls that are not independent. Dealing with pimps is typical cause of BS and everything else mentioned.
Much thanks for the detailed explination, it all fits together now. There were definately times thst the comms were off the wall and out of context as you said. Oh well, I definately got an education through all this and have a greater appreation for the solid posters on USA. All was not lost, I used the room to do a first time meet with an SA girl and had a great time.
I've reached out to Madelyn in an attempt to mend, I was super pissed and read "her" the riot act pretty hard so I'll be surprised if I hear back. Lots of fish in the sea and I enjoy fishing. Thanks again Mongernator.
[QUOTE=Mongernator;3479828][URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/353/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/35269-Madelyn23-is-here-for-you-offering-end-of-week-specials.html[/URL]
Sometimes years in the hobby pays off. Whenever I was curious if a provider had a handler, once I'd be in the same room I would put my burner on silent, hit "send," stick it in my pocket, and pretend it was a pocket call if her phone would actually ring. In Madelyn's case, it did not. This confirmed my suspicions all along during the entire texting process because "her" texts sometimes seemed inconsistent with what I was convinced we confidently discussed on the phone a week ago.
I'll invest a bit more bank when I'm convinced a provider is worth the trip (like Cincinnati's Delicious Dawn now known as Taylor Nicole), especially when a provider is willing to solidly commit to a two-hour session on a specific day and time several days away. That's my optimum hobby MO (as I hate dealing with providers only willing to see "Mr. Right Now" even though I will). It goes like this:
1) Text once while short-notice-ready to establish response.
2) light confidence-building minimal back-forth texts after response but not yet revealing my two-hour preference.
3) once ready to close deal insist on brief phone conversation to share intel I won't share via text (such as time, amount, location) to ensure no "paper" trail (or I simply won't see that provider). "No call, no meetup," is my usual text ultimatum for SP's who can't or won't talk on phone to finalize a meetup. This also ensures I'm going to speak to the SP herself and not a handler (as always happens, for example, with Asian SP's).
4) during that phone I'll always include humor to break the ice and soon explain I prefer a two-hour tour if possible. Many understandably reveal willingness to a two-hour but prefer a shorter first-time visit. So most two-hour romps happen on a follow-up visit.
In Madelyn's case, not only didn't she blink and agree to a fair compromise gift for a two-hour tour while on the phone with me, she most confidently confirmed a solid week later for my ultimate preferred outcall crib and time of day along with an agreed text-along-the-way plan to check in with each other every couple of days until then. She was willing to wait, and honestly I wasn't in a hurry that particular day. FYI: I decided to pursue her because the reports that were actual encounter reviews spoke loudly to me. And like Tom Cruise in Riskly Business I said to myself, "what the fuck?
What kept my confidence is "she" continued to confidently text me every couple of days to confirm. This was my first suspicion I wasn't texting Madelyn herself. I've never experienced an SP so on it when it came to planning (especially as she's not seen me before). But I kept going and kept that day scheduled off just in case.
However, a mild clue #2 happened on the morning of the event yesterday when "she" replied to my question confirming the two-hour tour not exactly recalling it from our phone conversation a week before. I didn't even realize it was a clue until after my phone call test above.
Ok, so I got through all of the texting and scheduling hurdles and upon opening my crib door, and BTW at the very date and time agreed, in walked a young 23 year old smokin hot seasoned SP. Manicured nails with makeup, hair and (impressively) her attire was as instructed (based on the fact my particular crib had a lobby she had to walk through). Both of us naturally guarded at first, she did well helping us both break the ice for what turned out to be an unexpected surprise copulation-fest.
As I think was reported before, she doesn't kiss beyond light lips on lips in the course of play but not even LFK. And though I'm a big GFE fan, she quickly made up for the lack of any version of _FK because what I received was one of the best PSE's of my decades in the hobby. Wow. And I think I know what it took to get her there: time. We easily took 20 or so minutes to allow our conversation and body language to become more intimate before playtime. She's actually articulate and has a good sense of humor. Madelyn easily put me in a mode that I sometimes enjoy where I like to give as well as receive and boy oh by did that work well on her. By the time I was ready for a short break after the first hour she was the one who didn't want to stop. I certainly didn't complain or fail to oblige. In fact, when I realized there was only 30 minutes left and I wanted an extra 30 minutes more I offered her a bonus, she accepted, and we still went overtime with no clock-watching. And why wouldn't she? She was enjoying herself and she was happy with the remuneration.
Though I didn't pursue the islands beyond a fingertip (not always a high priority with me and in this case I was trying to keep up with her PSE mode), it appeared to be on the menu nonetheless in addition to just about everything else you could possibly think of including but not limited to CFS, BBBJ, (deep) FIV, and a tasty clean shaved DATY. Sensual / sensuous (I never get it right so I used both words here) every step of the way.
Madelyn's body is in great shape. Smallerish squeezable Bees on top (which I prefer anyway) that look and feel great. Sensitive nips she enjoys being pinched at the right moment (s). No apparent baby damage (and don't think she's a MILF). Pretty face, piercing eyes, and was a playful partner.
So as proof I'm not white-knighting here, she's definitely ultimately responsible for the stupidity of her handler. In other words, I really don't think it's her you're texting. But I personally believe everyone's bad communication experiences have everything to do with her handler trying to pretend he's Madelyn while, at the same time, she's possibly not communicating well with him. In fact, and with apologies, I think I may have been the reason why Wolverine was mislead by her handler the other day. I think we kept going and he was kept waiting. Really sorry, dude. I've been in your shoes on the other side many times, too.
Hopefully, her ass of a handler will read this and mend his ways. Or hopefully she will and whip his ass. He could learn a thing or two from Cincinnati's EE. My guess is her handler is likely trying to stay UTR himself. But I get it. Madelyn wants to remain low volume and probably doesn't want to deal with the screening mess. Remember, EE girls are slightly higher than the market average for that very reason. They simply don't want to deal with screening / scheduling.
In Madelyn's case, the final result will leave you agreeing with me she's worth the slightly higher than average Dayton rate and the hassle of getting through the gate. My advice: keep trying. She's worth it.
Mongernator.[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
After being out a good while I wanted to dip my toe back in. I'll explain what happened and am curious about some of your thoughts. I'm not sure what the etiquette is about naming the provider, but if needed I can add it later. So, I reached out to what sounded like a verified provider via text to the number provided on her ad. After an hour went by I sent out a follow-up text. Another 45 minutes later and I made other arrangements. 3 -1/2 hours after the original text and mid route to my other arrangement, I get a text back from the first provider. The text said Hi so and so this is provider, I'm texting from a new number because my phone was stolen and asked if I was still interested in seeing her. I explained my change of plans but asked if this new number was a good number to get a hold of her in the future. She said it was a text now number and would text me her new permanent number when she got it. I was cool with that. So, here is my question that I didn't think to ask at the time because I was in a hurry for arrangement then work. If the original number I texted was her stolen phone, then how did she know I texted her in order to text me back? Could I have possibly walked into a trap? Anyhow, thanks for any thoughts, and again if it is proper etiquette to add the providers name to this story I will. I didn't add it because I didn't want to sully what the reviews seem to be a reliable provider if it's in my head and this is normal kind of stuff.
[QUOTE=Mongernator;3479828][URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/353/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/35269-Madelyn23-is-here-for-you-offering-end-of-week-specials.html[/URL]
Sometimes years in the hobby pays off. Whenever I was curious if a provider had a handler, once I'd be in the same room I would put my burner on silent, hit "send," stick it in my pocket, and pretend it was a pocket call if her phone would actually ring. In Madelyn's case, it did not. This confirmed my suspicions all along during the entire texting process because "her" texts sometimes seemed inconsistent with what I was convinced we confidently discussed on the phone a week ago.
I'll invest a bit more bank when I'm convinced a provider is worth the trip (like Cincinnati's Delicious Dawn now known as Taylor Nicole), especially when a provider is willing to solidly commit to a two-hour session on a specific day and time several days away. That's my optimum hobby MO (as I hate dealing with providers only willing to see "Mr. Right Now" even though I will). It goes like this:
1) Text once while short-notice-ready to establish response.
2) light confidence-building minimal back-forth texts after response but not yet revealing my two-hour preference.
3) once ready to close deal insist on brief phone conversation to share intel I won't share via text (such as time, amount, location) to ensure no "paper" trail (or I simply won't see that provider). "No call, no meetup," is my usual text ultimatum for SP's who can't or won't talk on phone to finalize a meetup. This also ensures I'm going to speak to the SP herself and not a handler (as always happens, for example, with Asian SP's).
4) during that phone I'll always include humor to break the ice and soon explain I prefer a two-hour tour if possible. Many understandably reveal willingness to a two-hour but prefer a shorter first-time visit. So most two-hour romps happen on a follow-up visit.
In Madelyn's case, not only didn't she blink and agree to a fair compromise gift for a two-hour tour while on the phone with me, she most confidently confirmed a solid week later for my ultimate preferred outcall crib and time of day along with an agreed text-along-the-way plan to check in with each other every couple of days until then. She was willing to wait, and honestly I wasn't in a hurry that particular day. FYI: I decided to pursue her because the reports that were actual encounter reviews spoke loudly to me. And like Tom Cruise in Riskly Business I said to myself, "what the fuck?
What kept my confidence is "she" continued to confidently text me every couple of days to confirm. This was my first suspicion I wasn't texting Madelyn herself. I've never experienced an SP so on it when it came to planning (especially as she's not seen me before). But I kept going and kept that day scheduled off just in case.[/QUOTE]I was wondering about the same issue but never reported. Good to know from your detailed post.
[QUOTE=OneMan;3480797]Hi guys,
After being out a good while I wanted to dip my toe back in. I'll explain what happened and am curious about some of your thoughts. I'm not sure what the etiquette is about naming the provider, but if needed I can add it later. So, I reached out to what sounded like a verified provider via text to the number provided on her ad. After an hour went by I sent out a follow-up text. Another 45 minutes later and I made other arrangements. 3 -1/2 hours after the original text and mid route to my other arrangement, I get a text back from the first provider. The text said Hi so and so this is provider, I'm texting from a new number because my phone was stolen and asked if I was still interested in seeing her. I explained my change of plans but asked if this new number was a good number to get a hold of her in the future. She said it was a text now number and would text me her new permanent number when she got it. I was cool with that. So, here is my question that I didn't think to ask at the time because I was in a hurry for arrangement then work. If the original number I texted was her stolen phone, then how did she know I texted her in order to text me back? Could I have possibly walked into a trap? Anyhow, thanks for any thoughts, and again if it is proper etiquette to add the providers name to this story I will. I didn't add it because I didn't want to sully what the reviews seem to be a reliable provider if it's in my head and this is normal kind of stuff.[/QUOTE]You can link other devices to a cell phone number, such as a fit bit. May not be able to reply via these other devices but she could get notifications.
Now, to whether she was being truthful or not that her phone was stolen is another question. I've personally heard phone fell in sink and shorted, phone broke and wouldn't turn on, phone was on mute and couldn't hear, misplaced phone, left phone in wrong place. FWIW.
Follow up to my previous. My other arrangement. Jasmine in Xenia. Quick response, great communication. A bit further than I would have liked by decent motel right off the main drag. The dream went pretty smooth. Down to earth and friendly. Started with a pretty good BBBJ, cover on with all the positions covered. Finished with BBBJ ending with a HJ. No Greek, No BB, and No CIM. Probably won't repeat. Nothing against her, she was a reliable pleasant provider. But distance combined with no CIM will probably keep me closer to the center. (I'm an hour away from central Dayton sooo).
Had a dream recently about her and all went great. Not a bad location at all. Not to far away from my location. Very nice, very happy. Definetly would be nice to do again.
[QUOTE=Progressou812;3475574]Met up with Breezy today. Props to RegD. Great communication, attractive and clean provider. On the small side, takes it like a champ. Considering the less than reliable regulars in Dayton area she is refreshing. Will repeat. Stay safe.
P.[/QUOTE]I also have seen Breezy a few times now. Great communications. Great lady and lots of fun. Menu is the norm. Look to see her again soon.
Everything Mongerater posted is true. She is sexy, Smoking hot little body. Lovely eyes. Nice butt. Flat stomach. Definitely not a MILF. 'Very personable, friendly, and yes sometimes can be a little difficult to get a hold of. I last saw her early this month, I posted a review. Had a great time with her. So much that the following week I wanted to revisit. But I didn't receive a response back. I pm her and asked if number was still active she said yes and gave another alternative number. I would've seen her within the last two weeks but was busy with certain brunette who happens to have a bun in the oven. I planned on seeing Madelyn anyway, but after hearing the great time he had with Madelyn, I'll be seeing her again soon. And from the pm's about her, others are looking to see her also. Keep trying guys. She is well worth it if you get to see her. Will get to the PM about her as well, when I here back from her. Stay safe, be respectful, and have fun.
[QUOTE=MahjacBall;3481063]You can link other devices to a cell phone number, such as a fit bit. May not be able to reply via these other devices but she could get notifications.
Now, to whether she was being truthful or not that her phone was stolen is another question. I've personally heard phone fell in sink and shorted, phone broke and wouldn't turn on, phone was on mute and couldn't hear, misplaced phone, left phone in wrong place. FWIW.[/QUOTE]Yes, there are ways to receive text massages to multiple devices. Most of the providers use text services that can be sent to their single phone or phone numbers or even to their email address (s).
Sent a note to extend the olive branch after being stood up. Received a reply a couple days later to which I promptly replied and then after saying I could meet the responses ended and haven't heard a peep since. I don't have time like some mongers to sit around an extra hour or start setting up a date that dies in the middle of the convo. She may be smoking hot but honestly there are tons of women to be had elsewhere, most of which do not have handlers or dragon burns. Maybe we will hook up some day but its doubtful, I've already wasted hours of time. If she was to reach out to me on the side through PM, that would probably circumvent the comms issue. K sa ra sa ra. LOL.
[QUOTE=ShyGeek69;3480819]I was wondering about the same issue but never reported. Good to know from your detailed post.[/QUOTE]
Sent a note to extend the olive branch after being stood up the 3rd time. Received a reply a couple days later to which I promptly replied and exchanged a few texts saying I could meet then the responses ended and haven't heard a peep since. I don't have time like some mongers to sit around an extra hour or start setting up a date that dies in the middle of the convo. She may be smoking hot but honestly there are tons of hot women to be had elsewhere, most of which do not have handlers or dragon burns. Maybe we will hook up some day but its doubtful, I've already wasted hours of time. If she was to reach out to me on the side through PM, that would probably circumvent the comms issue. K sa ra sa ra. LOL.
[QUOTE=ShyGeek69;3480819]I was wondering about the same issue but never reported. Good to know from your detailed post.[/QUOTE]
She is amazing that's for sure. Been seeing her for quite some time and have only great things to say about her, like everyone else who has.
[QUOTE=Tyson9;3476914]I finally have senior status now! And hope I can have a dream with her. I like how everyone describes her as a free spirit. I kinda like that. I hope I get to meet her. She sounds amazingly amazing. LOL.[/QUOTE]
Just had a great little session with the new Chevy77!! All the acronyms apply, no bb, no Greek, but outstanding oral skills and a no kids tight giner!! I hosted at my rental palace! LOL she can't host but she is def worth the price of admission. $ for a no clock watching couple hours!! She lives off 3rd but in no way does she look like third. Claims to have never done this before and in this seasoned mongers opinion I believe everything she says!! Seriously.
Pm me with questions. Seniors and vetted regs.
TB.
[QUOTE=DenMark23;3482039]Everything Mongerater posted is true. She is sexy, Smoking hot little body. Lovely eyes. Nice butt. Flat stomach. Definitely not a MILF. 'Very personable, friendly, and yes sometimes can be a little difficult to get a hold of. I last saw her early this month, I posted a review. Had a great time with her. So much that the following week I wanted to revisit. But I didn't receive a response back. I pm her and asked if number was still active she said yes and gave another alternative number. I would've seen her within the last two weeks but was busy with certain brunette who happens to have a bun in the oven. I planned on seeing Madelyn anyway, but after hearing the great time he had with Madelyn, I'll be seeing her again soon. And from the pm's about her, others are looking to see her also. Keep trying guys. She is well worth it if you get to see her. Will get to the PM about her as well, when I here back from her. Stay safe, be respectful, and have fun.[/QUOTE]Her ad on USA has no phone number. Says PM me, but no link for PM. Other ads have links for email or PMs, but not hers. Am I missing something?