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[QUOTE=Ptown24;7505619]Went to the swap meet earlier, and saw quite a few fine ass Latinas. Highly doubt they were providers haha, but got me wondering if you guys know of any Latina action or independents to be had without paying an arm and a leg. Thanks boys![/QUOTE]I've never met a Latina high school drop out that did not want to go bare. Goes to show how much they are controlled.
[QUOTE=Zhangfe1;7510381]I've never met a Latina high school drop out that did not want to go bare. Goes to show how much they are controlled.[/QUOTE]Any you can recommend?
[QUOTE=Zhangfe1;7510381]I've never met a Latina high school drop out that did not want to go bare. Goes to show how much they are controlled.[/QUOTE]Where? LOL!! Back in the day, I was lucky enough to meet a chola who had moved from L. A. To San Diego to be close to family. I had never met a chola and she drove me wild. She didn't dress or do her hair the part while in San Diego, but she was fine. I never got to seal the deal with her. That may be my last bucket list item. A ln honest to goodness Chola with a good body. I don't care if it's all covered. I've done the 3 some stuff, group sex, a goth and done some stuff in some weird places, but I want that Chola.
[QUOTE=Dmonn;7503123]Afterall this is a job for them, "these professional sex workers are in it for the money, or green cards. " Some and not all have performed Oscar nominated performances or the AVN awards.
Chemistry does play in the role after all we are all humans.
These women have their standards in looks, but money does speak louder than words.
I have dated some of them and finding things to talk about besides the "incredible" sex is challenging enough.
Most of them if not all have said they don't like the sex, it's a job.
In closing, I agree with MK - "Don't kid yourself otherwise no matter how sweet and charming she is and the sex is out of this world. She's a professional sex worker, you are a client. ".[/QUOTE]Think about their life for a second. They probably started having sex very early, and before they ever wanted to. They most likely had sex with men they didn't want to have sex with.
Very likely the men who fucked them, didn't care if they enjoyed it or not.
They learn that being fuckable was all they were good for and submitted to this reality. There probably wasn't much love, emotional support, or even a caring environment, so to them sex was never enjoyable. Their experience with sex very likely lacked any loving, gentle, or caring sensations. And they probably had to do it way more than they naturally wanted to.
Now consider being sexually abused, rough characters, big painful cocks, guys giving them a pounding in every imaginable position. Some brutes even like the fact it hurts them, and they submitted to it anyway.
Even if at one time they did enjoy sex, imagine having to fuck 4, 5, 6 or more strangers every day. Now consider it if many might be old, out of shape, hygienically inept, assholes. Think you'd enjoy that much sex with people who you were not attracted too or even repulsive by? It wouldn't take long before the joy and pleasure wore off.
Their impression of sex is that of a service that provides money to survive. It's their job. They fuck strangers. Often to men they are not attracted too or like. In their workday they have to submit to assholes and angels alike to make a buck. This is their accepted profession, and they know men only want one thing from them.
Taking all this as a possibility, take another second and see if you can take advantage of being one of the nice guys (angels.) We know their life may not be a good one, but if we treat them nicely, and perhaps with kindness, fucking us won't be unpleasant for them. Even if they don't "enjoy" it, they might not mind doing it with us. And this is where they might try to connect to us and allow special privileges. Every "good" customer who keeps coming back is one less asshole they have time for or need to fuck. And there is the chance they do enjoy sex with us.
But bear in mind, they connect with us for resources, not love. They know why you're involved with them, and they're out to see how much you'll pay for it. This is their profession. Using their pussy and your cock to get money out of your pocket is what they do.
So, if you think your connection is emotionally special, consider that it's only you who's feeling that way. Sure, they might "like" you, because you are "nice" to them, and give them money. But you're a customer, probably married, and most likely fucking other SPA girls. They all know they are not your first, and they know they will not be your last fuck interest.
It's not wise of me to say this applies to every single PSW, but it is safe to say it describes many, maybe even the majority. This is one reason I like to entertain women in HJ spas. These women may have a fucked up sexual background, but they don't have to fuck every customer who walks in the door. She chooses her service limits. When I connect with a woman here, and get FS, it's her choice to give it to me, not an obligation or expectation of the SPA's service promise.
This also doesn't' mean that all sex workers don't, won't, or can't enjoy sex. They may not enjoy sex with random customers, but they can enjoy sex with special customers. I know this is possible, and have found some very horny, sexually enthusiastic women who "seem" to have a good time with me. I know it can be an act, but if it is, they are some of the best actresses I've ever seen. It is possible some really do enjoy their job with special customers.
Know, that I do tip on the generous side, but I don't over tip. I deliberately don't see them too often, I never see them out of the spa. I don't buy special gifts, fill gift requests or give "loans" to any of them. Some have tried the sympathy path telling me how poor their family is in China, but hey, as far as I know we all can use more money so I just ignore that soft ask.
Last thoughts about all this. Enjoying my hobby, I've run across women who have shared some amazing sex with me saying two things. Sooner or later in conversation some have said they "like" me. Not love, like. A couple have used the "love" word, but I don't fall for that bull. Like is a more realistic and believable professional connection especially when she's giving you great sex, for money. I've never received or even been offered a "freebee," even from the ones who said they like me. So even being "liked" didn't preclude paying for services rendered, but I'm sure they said it to encourage me to come see them again.
The other thing more than a few have said is "you are nice to me. " One in particular said it every time I saw her and even said I was her number one customer. Being her number 1 is probably BS but this stands out because if they are pointing this out, I can only imagine how many guys are not nice to them. How many brutish assholes they must have to deal with on a day-to-day basis is unimaginable.
I'm just treating them with respect, some caring kindness, and despite their profession, like I would any woman I was getting naked with to have sex. I treat them like they matter, how they feel matters, and I make a genuine effort to help them enjoy all the fun as much as I do. I work to convince them I'm not another brutish asshole, looking to openly use them, abuse them, hurt them, dominate them, or basically treat them like shit.
Considering all the rewards I've gotten back for this approach, I'd say if you want more, want to do it longer, and want to get more from more women. Try being nice to them.
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;7513664]Think about their life for a second. They probably started having sex very early, and before they ever wanted to. They most likely had sex with men they didn't want to have sex with.
Very likely the men who fucked them, didn't care if they enjoyed it or not.
They learn that being fuckable was all they were good for and submitted to this reality. There probably wasn't much love, emotional support, or even a caring environment, so to them sex was never enjoyable. Their experience with sex very likely lacked any loving, gentle, or caring sensations. And they probably had to do it way more than they naturally wanted to.
Now consider being sexually abused, rough characters, big painful cocks, guys giving them a pounding in every imaginable position. Some brutes even like the fact it hurts them, and they submitted to it anyway..[/QUOTE]I applaud this post. A bit depressing, but it's the truth.
Seriously, some of the best writing ever. Insightful and articulate.
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;7513664]Think about their life for a second. They probably started having sex very early, and before they ever wanted to. They most likely had sex with men they didn't want to have sex with.
Very likely the men who fucked them, didn't care if they enjoyed it or not.
They learn that being fuckable was all they were good for and submitted to this reality. There probably wasn't much love, emotional support, or even a caring environment, so to them sex was never enjoyable. Their experience with sex very likely lacked any loving, gentle, or caring sensations. And they probably had to do it way more than they naturally wanted to.
Now consider being sexually abused, rough characters, big painful cocks, guys giving them a pounding in every imaginable position. Some brutes even like the fact it hurts them, and they submitted to it anyway.
Even if at one time they did enjoy sex, imagine having to fuck 4, 5, 6 or more strangers every day. Now consider it if many might be old, out of shape, hygienically inept, assholes. Think you'd enjoy that much sex with people who you were not attracted too or even repulsive by? It wouldn't take long before the joy and pleasure wore off.
Their impression of sex is that of a service that provides money to survive. It's their job. They fuck strangers. Often to men they are not attracted too or like. In their workday they have to submit to assholes and angels alike to make a buck. This is their accepted profession, and they know men only want one thing from them.
Taking all this as a possibility, take another second and see if you can take advantage of being one of the nice guys (angels.) We know their life may not be a good one, but if we treat them nicely, and perhaps with kindness, fucking us won't be unpleasant for them. Even if they don't "enjoy" it, they might not mind doing it with us. And this is where they might try to connect to us and allow special privileges. Every "good" customer who keeps coming back is one less asshole they have time for or need to fuck. And there is the chance they do enjoy sex with us.
But bear in mind, they connect with us for resources, not love. They know why you're involved with them, and they're out to see how much you'll pay for it. This is their profession. Using their pussy and your cock to get money out of your pocket is what they do.
So, if you think your connection is emotionally special, consider that it's only you who's feeling that way. Sure, they might "like" you, because you are "nice" to them, and give them money. But you're a customer, probably married, and most likely fucking other SPA girls. They all know they are not your first, and they know they will not be your last fuck interest.
It's not wise of me to say this applies to every single PSW, but it is safe to say it describes many, maybe even the majority. This is one reason I like to entertain women in HJ spas. These women may have a fucked up sexual background, but they don't have to fuck every customer who walks in the door. She chooses her service limits. When I connect with a woman here, and get FS, it's her choice to give it to me, not an obligation or expectation of the SPA's service promise.
This also doesn't' mean that all sex workers don't, won't, or can't enjoy sex. They may not enjoy sex with random customers, but they can enjoy sex with special customers. I know this is possible, and have found some very horny, sexually enthusiastic women who "seem" to have a good time with me. I know it can be an act, but if it is, they are some of the best actresses I've ever seen. It is possible some really do enjoy their job with special customers.
Know, that I do tip on the generous side, but I don't over tip. I deliberately don't see them too often, I never see them out of the spa. I don't buy special gifts, fill gift requests or give "loans" to any of them. Some have tried the sympathy path telling me how poor their family is in China, but hey, as far as I know we all can use more money so I just ignore that soft ask.
Last thoughts about all this. Enjoying my hobby, I've run across women who have shared some amazing sex with me saying two things. Sooner or later in conversation some have said they "like" me. Not love, like. A couple have used the "love" word, but I don't fall for that bull. Like is a more realistic and believable professional connection especially when she's giving you great sex, for money. I've never received or even been offered a "freebee," even from the ones who said they like me. So even being "liked" didn't preclude paying for services rendered, but I'm sure they said it to encourage me to come see them again.
The other thing more than a few have said is "you are nice to me. " One in particular said it every time I saw her and even said I was her number one customer. Being her number 1 is probably BS but this stands out because if they are pointing this out, I can only imagine how many guys are not nice to them. How many brutish assholes they must have to deal with on a day-to-day basis is unimaginable.
I'm just treating them with respect, some caring kindness, and despite their profession, like I would any woman I was getting naked with to have sex. I treat them like they matter, how they feel matters, and I make a genuine effort to help them enjoy all the fun as much as I do. I work to convince them I'm not another brutish asshole, looking to openly use them, abuse them, hurt them, dominate them, or basically treat them like shit.
Considering all the rewards I've gotten back for this approach, I'd say if you want more, want to do it longer, and want to get more from more women. Try being nice to them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;7513664]Think about their life for a second. They probably started having sex very early, and before they ever wanted to. They most likely had sex with men they didn't want to have sex with.
Very likely the men who fucked them, didn't care if they enjoyed it or not.
They learn that being fuckable was all they were good for and submitted to this reality. There probably wasn't much love, emotional support, or even a caring environment, so to them sex was never enjoyable. Their experience with sex very likely lacked any loving, gentle, or caring sensations. And they probably had to do it way more than they naturally wanted to.
Now consider being sexually abused, rough characters, big painful cocks, guys giving them a pounding in every imaginable position. Some brutes even like the fact it hurts them, and they submitted to it anyway.
Even if at one time they did enjoy sex, imagine having to fuck 4, 5, 6 or more strangers every day. Now consider it if many might be old, out of shape, hygienically inept, assholes. Think you'd enjoy that much sex with people who you were not attracted too or even repulsive by? It wouldn't take long before the joy and pleasure wore off.
Their impression of sex is that of a service that provides money to survive. It's their job. They fuck strangers. Often to men they are not attracted too or like. In their workday they have to submit to assholes and angels alike to make a buck. This is their accepted profession, and they know men only want one thing from them.
Taking all this as a possibility, take another second and see if you can take advantage of being one of the nice guys (angels.) We know their life may not be a good one, but if we treat them nicely, and perhaps with kindness, fucking us won't be unpleasant for them. Even if they don't "enjoy" it, they might not mind doing it with us. And this is where they might try to connect to us and allow special privileges. Every "good" customer who keeps coming back is one less asshole they have time for or need to fuck. And there is the chance they do enjoy sex with us.
But bear in mind, they connect with us for resources, not love. They know why you're involved with them, and they're out to see how much you'll pay for it. This is their profession. Using their pussy and your cock to get money out of your pocket is what they do.
So, if you think your connection is emotionally special, consider that it's only you who's feeling that way. Sure, they might "like" you, because you are "nice" to them, and give them money. But you're a customer, probably married, and most likely fucking other SPA girls. They all know they are not your first, and they know they will not be your last fuck interest.
It's not wise of me to say this applies to every single PSW, but it is safe to say it describes many, maybe even the majority. This is one reason I like to entertain women in HJ spas. These women may have a fucked up sexual background, but they don't have to fuck every customer who walks in the door. She chooses her service limits. When I connect with a woman here, and get FS, it's her choice to give it to me, not an obligation or expectation of the SPA's service promise.
This also doesn't' mean that all sex workers don't, won't, or can't enjoy sex. They may not enjoy sex with random customers, but they can enjoy sex with special customers. I know this is possible, and have found some very horny, sexually enthusiastic women who "seem" to have a good time with me. I know it can be an act, but if it is, they are some of the best actresses I've ever seen. It is possible some really do enjoy their job with special customers.
Know, that I do tip on the generous side, but I don't over tip. I deliberately don't see them too often, I never see them out of the spa. I don't buy special gifts, fill gift requests or give "loans" to any of them. Some have tried the sympathy path telling me how poor their family is in China, but hey, as far as I know we all can use more money so I just ignore that soft ask.
Last thoughts about all this. Enjoying my hobby, I've run across women who have shared some amazing sex with me saying two things. Sooner or later in conversation some have said they "like" me. Not love, like. A couple have used the "love" word, but I don't fall for that bull. Like is a more realistic and believable professional connection especially when she's giving you great sex, for money. I've never received or even been offered a "freebee," even from the ones who said they like me. So even being "liked" didn't preclude paying for services rendered, but I'm sure they said it to encourage me to come see them again.
The other thing more than a few have said is "you are nice to me. " One in particular said it every time I saw her and even said I was her number one customer. Being her number 1 is probably BS but this stands out because if they are pointing this out, I can only imagine how many guys are not nice to them. How many brutish assholes they must have to deal with on a day-to-day basis is unimaginable.
I'm just treating them with respect, some caring kindness, and despite their profession, like I would any woman I was getting naked with to have sex. I treat them like they matter, how they feel matters, and I make a genuine effort to help them enjoy all the fun as much as I do. I work to convince them I'm not another brutish asshole, looking to openly use them, abuse them, hurt them, dominate them, or basically treat them like shit.
Considering all the rewards I've gotten back for this approach, I'd say if you want more, want to do it longer, and want to get more from more women. Try being nice to them.[/QUOTE]Excellent.
[QUOTE=PfiftySoCal;7505626]Thanks for all the feedback and advice!
So far we are only meeting at the spa she works at, and only on the days she normally has off. Usually I ask to meet at times that are normally slow, so we are not competing for rooms.
And so far there is no requests from her for anything, though she did show me a pic of a wind proof jacket and asked if I would buy it for her, but I didn't bite. And I did bring her a small box of chocolates to see what she thought.
She is definitely enjoying what I bring to the table for her, and I'm OK with what she brings, but intrigued by the personal connection we have made, so I'm going to have a talk with her about reciprocity.[/QUOTE]Nobody here can tell you what to do, we can all make our own decisions. It's very easy for people on the internet to throw out advice when they aren't in your shoes, but the reality is there are many subtle but important things that we don't know. Every relationship is different and even though it's easy for me to make a general statement and say don't fall for any tricks, don't get the girl anything, there is much I don't know. We are talking about a jacket ffs! I mean, I don't know how smart you are, but everything in life is about return on your investment. If I just need to buy this girl a damn wind breaker to let me smash the pussy raw, well, fuck everyone's advice, I'm buying that damn jacket!
There is nothing wrong with buying these girls gifts as long as you are getting what you want in return. If you get what you want, she gets what she wants, both parties are happy, then who fucking cares? Some of us can afford to take a risk because the reward or incentive that we get in return makes sense. I bought a girl a necklace, yeah call me whatever you want. It was expensive, but now I can smash that girls pussy raw and leave my babies marinating inside her whenever I feel like it and not pay her a damn thing! Was it worth it to me? Sure! Do I care what others think? Not really. The return on the investment was worth it for me.
So you need to ask yourself why are you trying to get from this woman because I will say one thing, the relationship isn't "special" in the happily ever after kind of way. Maybe I'm wrong, but use your other head, don't get yourself involved in something that you can't handle. I've seen too many homies get hurt.
[QUOTE=PfiftySoCal;7505626]Thanks for all the feedback and advice! So far we are only meeting at the spa she works at, and only on the days she normally has off. Usually I ask to meet at times that are normally slow, so we are not competing for rooms. And so far there is no requests from her for anything, though she did show me a pic of a wind proof jacket and asked if I would buy it for her, but I didn't bite. And I did bring her a small box of chocolates to see what she thought. She is definitely enjoying what I bring to the table for her, and I'm OK with what she brings, but intrigued by the personal connection we have made, so I'm going to have a talk with her about reciprocity.[/QUOTE]Tell her to give you x3 BBFS sessions and you'll buy her the jacket, . It's called "the Lay-Away" plan.
I think the confusion is if you buy a gift do you still have to pay cash when you fuck her? If it is yes, that is a double "fuck tax" I would avoid.
If you can buy her a gift and don't have to pay again for sex go for it, but if it's expensive get your money's worth.
I'm sure most of the women want both.
Buying the women gifts is fine if that is what you want to do. Extra "gifts" especially expensive stuff, or cash in the red envelope will elevate your customer status.
Once you found your ATF Fuck Toy, I'd just over tip and call it good.
[QUOTE=Smucker;7519342]Nobody here can tell you what to do, we can all make our own decisions. It's very easy for people on the internet to throw out advice when they aren't in your shoes, but the reality is there are many subtle but important things that we don't know. Every relationship is different and even though it's easy for me to make a general statement and say don't fall for any tricks, don't get the girl anything, there is much I don't know. We are talking about a jacket ffs! I mean, I don't know how smart you are, but everything in life is about return on your investment. If I just need to buy this girl a damn wind breaker to let me smash the pussy raw, well, fuck everyone's advice, I'm buying that damn jacket!
There is nothing wrong with buying these girls gifts as long as you are getting what you want in return. If you get what you want, she gets what she wants, both parties are happy, then who fucking cares? Some of us can afford to take a risk because the reward or incentive that we get in return makes sense. I bought a girl a necklace, yeah call me whatever you want. It was expensive, but now I can smash that girls pussy raw and leave my babies marinating inside her whenever I feel like it and not pay her a damn thing! Was it worth it to me? Sure! Do I care what others think? Not really. The return on the investment was worth it for me.
So you need to ask yourself why are you trying to get from this woman because I will say one thing, the relationship isn't "special" in the happily ever after kind of way. Maybe I'm wrong, but use your other head, don't get yourself involved in something that you can't handle. I've seen too many homies get hurt.[/QUOTE]
Anyone know any places with philipino girls?
[QUOTE=TheGirth;7528944]Anyone know any places with philipino girls?[/QUOTE]Not here but INtl Sx Guide or Angeles City or P. Burgos.
Usually if they make it here in the States they don't go to same thing what have they been doing in the Philippines.
[QUOTE=TheGirth;7528944]Anyone know any places with philipino girls?[/QUOTE]There are some Filipina girls who post on LC from time to time. You can search on the word "Filipina". Also some mixed Filipina and Mexican (Mexipina) girls.
Hello gentlemen Jennie is back! I ran into her the other day and she said that she had been considering going back into the game so with a little encouragement boom she's right back at it! If you have to seen her before or do not recognize her on this report please hit her up. Her number is on this add or holla at your boy Astro for more information. She has very reasonable rates and an open mebnyu. Trust me you will not regret ot!