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[QUOTE=Tundakat;4400804]Scouted around 7. Saw an older bigger woman with a boob almost popping out standing on the corner of that street that runs by zippys. Gross.[/QUOTE]At about the same time, I was downtown and observed what is almost surely the same person at that specific location. Although that provider has been visiting downtown for years, please be aware that provider isn't a real woman.
[QUOTE=Redneck1;4396591]Thanks, BeaverLiquor.
Personally, things could be better, but could also be worse (smile). Wish that I were at least twenty years younger!
By the way, one point that I did want to mention to the readers of this thread is that some downtown providers have said that business is slow. It seems that many mongers are spending little or no time downtown because of a relative lack of downtown providers. So it may be sort of a "vicious cycle" type of situation, with some potential providers mostly staying away from working downtown because they perceive a lack of sufficient customers, and some customers staying away from downtown because of a lack of sufficient providers. If there were more mongers downtown looking for action (and not at unreasonably low prices), that could eventually attract more downtown providers, especially as providers told their friends and acquaintances that there had been an upsurge of downtown customers. In free-market economics, demand often stimulates supply. Just a thought, and other opinions are welcome.[/QUOTE]Hey Redneck, What are average or expected downtown street prices these days? I'm curious because I have no idea. I'm totally naive about that scene, and I'm wondering how those prices correspond to house / tip in the AMPs.
[QUOTE=Redneck1;4396591] It seems that many mongers are spending little or no time downtown because of a relative lack of downtown providers. So it may be sort of a "vicious cycle" type of situation, with some potential providers mostly staying away from working downtown because they perceive a lack of sufficient customers, and some customers staying away from downtown because of a lack of sufficient providers.[/QUOTE]I think many of us were content with the AMPs and didn't want the trouble with trannies, druggies and crazies. Also, gas is expensive.
In Malias case it's different economics as she goes out, gets 1 customer, then quits becaus she got paid. She not in it like a job but more like a ATM. Maybe that's why her personality is better
[QUOTE=Redneck1;4396591]Thanks, BeaverLiquor.
Personally, things could be better, but could also be worse (smile). Wish that I were at least twenty years younger!
By the way, one point that I did want to mention to the readers of this thread is that some downtown providers have said that business is slow. It seems that many mongers are spending little or no time downtown because of a relative lack of downtown providers. So it may be sort of a "vicious cycle" type of situation, with some potential providers mostly staying away from working downtown because they perceive a lack of sufficient customers, and some customers staying away from downtown because of a lack of sufficient providers. If there were more mongers downtown looking for action (and not at unreasonably low prices), that could eventually attract more downtown providers, especially as providers told their friends and acquaintances that there had been an upsurge of downtown customers. In free-market economics, demand often stimulates supply. Just a thought, and other opinions are welcome.[/QUOTE].
About 6 630 brunette haole behind longs. Saw SW in black and white dress but had a hard time telling if it was a man or not.
[QUOTE=Botoman;4402323] In Malia's case it's different economics as she goes out, gets 1 customer, then quits because she got paid. She not in it like a job but more like a ATM. Maybe that's why her personality is better.[/QUOTE]Plus, she's relatively young and a blond haole, which tends to increase her desirability for some customers.
[QUOTE=CosmicKid;4401870]What are average or expected downtown street prices these days? I'm curious because I have no idea. I'm totally naive about that scene, and I'm wondering how those prices correspond to house / tip in the AMPs.[/QUOTE]In my experience, downtown costs are consistently lower than at AMPs.
Previously, I've responded to similar questions about downtown pricing, and for convenience below are my prior replies.
[QUOTE] One of the reasons why I enjoy downtown street mongering is that there's no "going rate," it's free-market economics. The cost can be affected by a variety of factors, including which provider is involved; which customer is involved; the customer's bargaining skills; whether the customer is already well known to the provider; the specific sexual activity that's involved; how much other potential business is available to the provider at the particular time; and how much the provider needs money for drugs or other reasons at the particular time. For example, over the years I've occasionally had full-service dates (with unattractive providers) for as low as $20. On the other hand, a brother monger recently reported spending $120 for about 11 minutes of full-service sexual activity. So the cost can widely vary depending upon the monger and the precise circumstances. [/QUOTE][QUOTE] There's no single specific "fee for oral sex" downtown. The cost can depend upon a combination of various factors, including the desirability or undesirability of the individual provider; whether the provider strongly needs quick cash (such as for a drug buy); how many other potential customers are around at the time; whether the particular customer is a provider's good regular customer or unknown to the provider; what type of service is desired (covered, uncovered, cim, swallow, rimming); the negotiating skills of the particular customer, etc. It's an excellent example of free-market economics in action.[/QUOTE][QUOTE] I wish that I could name one specific "normal" price for you, but downtown street mongering is a great example of free-market economics and personal freedom of choice, so there can be many variables involved that prevent a "one size fits all" answer. The variables that affect pricing may include the age and appearance of the particular provider and the particular customer; the quality of the provider's fellatio skills; the quality of the provider's attitude and personality; whether a customer wants any special services from a provider such as deep throating, a BJ-rimming combo, or finishing with a swallow; whether it's a brief car date or a longer non-car date (apartment, home, hotel); the provider's need for money; whether or not business is slow at the particular time of day or night; and how many dates the customer has already had with the provider (a trusted multiple-repeat customer may receive more price flexibility). Remember, though, sometimes driving too hard of a bargain with a provider may be counterproductive because it can negatively affect attitude and service.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Redneck1;4408392]Plus, she's relatively young and a blond haole, which tends to increase her desirability for some customers.
In my experience, downtown costs are consistently lower than at AMPs.
Previously, I've responded to similar questions about downtown pricing, and for convenience below are my prior replies.[/QUOTE]Big mahalo for bringing those past posts of yours (on downtown pricing) together, Redneck. I'm finding them to be super-interesting and educational. You've presented a comprehensive view into the world of street mongering; something I'm not familiar with. Now I feel I have a much better understanding of what it takes to participate in that kind of mongering. The upsides would be less cash spent overall, and also it looks to me like that monger style is much more of an adventure and challenge (than AMPs). It is clear to me I'd personally never be able to cope with the issues involved though, plus the logistics of monitoring provider availability would be virtually impossible since I live far outside of Honolulu.
Where are some spots that are not in town that we can pick up some action preferably on the west side?
Where are the spots on the west side? I hear possibly Waipahu.
[QUOTE=Botoman;4402323]In Malias case it's different economics as she goes out, gets 1 customer, then quits becaus she got paid. She not in it like a job but more like a ATM. Maybe that's why her personality is better.[/QUOTE]And what I most notice is that her skills have REALLY improved since last year.
BTW, I saw Malia a couple of weeks ago and she mentioned that Korean Ellie's body was found in the canal a while back. She seemed to think Ellie was killed, but IMHO the suicide rates for people with mental illness would make that a poor bet.
BSG / Okazuya Girl out in front of okazuya 9:30 am Sunday.
[QUOTE=BalloonKnot100;4412167]Where are the spots on the west side? I hear possibly Waipahu.[/QUOTE]
Was at a distance someone else just pulled up before I got there but was a thicker (haole maybe) chick and a thinner local looking dark straight hair to back. Wanted the thinner one by looks of body didn't see faces. Would have taken them both. Any idea who they are? Contact info? I always go by between 430-5 and see sporadic girls but always picked up right as I get there. No fair!!
[QUOTE=Botoman;4367956] Malia said she wants to move mainland in a couple weeks. Get her while you can. [/QUOTE]Found her at about 3:30 this morning, looking for business on the Ewa / makai corner of the North Kukui Street / Maunakea Street intersection. Quite attractively dressed in snugly fitting pre-ripped blue jeans and a mostly pink top. She again said that she hopes to move back to the mainland within about two weeks, so as Botoman advised, get her while you can.
[QUOTE=RdPuerco;4412813] BTW, I saw Malia a couple of weeks ago and she mentioned that Korean Ellie's body was found in the canal a while back.[/QUOTE]Heard from another streetwalker that in addition to the death of Korean Ellie, two other downtown providers have died: Ivory, who had been ailing for quite a while, and local girl Bree ([U]not[/U] the Bree also known as Bus Stop Girl), who allegedly died in a car accident. Bree was low profile as a downtown provider and received almost no publicity on this forum, but was among my all-time favorites.
Dt had alot of girls this morning. Maybe one that got me to look twice others just not my type but I was like WTF something special going on. Had just rained a bit too I thought.
[QUOTE=ZMerquise;4415363]Dt had alot of girls this morning. Maybe one that got me to look twice others just not my type but I was like WTF something special going on. Had just rained a bit too I thought.[/QUOTE]99% of the walkers on that side the street by Hosoi and further down and trans women.