More welcoming of oppression!
[QUOTE=JunkSecond;5150248]I would ask anyone / everyone to read the same police reports and watch the body cam videos (the same instruments used by the media) and write your own story with the available facts vs reading one that has already been spun to serve an alternative purpose.[/QUOTE]Come on man, stop thinking for yourself, this is clearly another example of an oppressed dude. Forget the video of the officer repeatedly yelling "drop the knife, drop the knife!" That's immaterial. It doesn't matter that the guy's ex called the police there, and that the guy put himself in that position with his past record and current actions, it's all somebody else's fault, because he's oppressed.
By the way, not that what took place yesterday was admirable in any way, but where's all the outrage for the shooting of the unarmed woman that took place?
May I add something else?
You have correctly commented on this specific incident and I agree with you. What I have learned in my 30+ years with the Army is to never take the first reports as being accurate. Wait until a proper and complete investigation is conducted and reported. However, today's culture does not want to believe the actual facts once they have been investigated and reported, they want to stick with the damning initial reports by the media. That Michael Brown did not have his hands up so cop would not shoot, he was charging the cop again in a vicious attack. Trayvon Martin jumped Zimmerman. I could go on but you get the point. Wait for the true report and do not assume it has been spun, take the time to read and watch the entirety.
[QUOTE=JunkSecond;5150248]Punked, nothing personal, but I want to use this post as an example. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, and I am not disagreeing with you as a person, but want to rip the media a new one, specifically this CNN article. If all I read was this article I may likely draw the same conclusions. Bad cops do exist and do shoot people in the back as they run away, but that is not what happened.
The facts as I have gathered them:
Mr. Blake's ex called the cops when Mr. Blake showed up at her house and tried to take their children. Upon running his name through the criminal database the responding officers saw he had a history of domestic violence and an open FELONY arrest warrant. At that point it did not matter who was right or wrong in the current domestic dispute or if any crimes had been committed that day. Mr Blake was going to be taken into custody for an open warrant.
After multiple attempts to take Mr. Blake into custody with him resisting, Mr. Blake was tazed 2-3 times with no effect. I have not seen a tox report but think it obvious that Mr. Blake was feeling no pain. He then proceeded to attempt to flee the scene in his SUV. The kids were still inside. At that point the officers proceeded to physically remove him from the vehicle. When the officer laid hands on Mr Blake he pulled a knife and "moved his hand with the knife towards the officer. " The officer proceeded to "discharge his weapon until Mr. Blake dropped the knife. " I have seen people get shot. I can tell you with absolute certainty that 1-2 shots to center mass will disable motor skills of all natural / normal humans. Mr. Blake took 7 hits, point blank, to center mass before he dropped the knife. Again, I have not seen tox reports but that is not normal.
Now on to the CNN article. The first half presents very few of the above facts, out of sequence if they are mentioned. IMO it is presented in such a way to make the reader think that Mr. Blake was shot while fleeing the scene, alone and unarmed. Nothing they said is a lie, but they left out a lot of the important parts and shuffled the order to make it confusing. The second half goes on to explain that he did have a knife but again adds extraneous material like a quote from his lawyer saying that knives are legal and they added refuted statements (Mr. Blake admitted to having a knife) from witnesses saying he did not have a knife at all? What purpose does adding extraneous and refuted statements serve other than to sow confusion? It is never said or implied that Mr. Blake had a knife in his hand while resisting arrest when he tried to drive away with his kids in the back seat. Bits and pieces are there, jumbled, but not put together in any capacity to be clear and concise about what happened when the officer made the decision to shoot.
There is so much Polish on this turd it is blinding. The dirty cop shot the hero in the back and he was just trying to get away and not cause harm to anyone. Pretty much the same spin techniques that turn misdemeanor offenses into international human trafficking RICO crimes.
These events happen, and will continue so long as people have free will to do wrong to others. I would ask anyone / everyone to read the same police reports and watch the body cam videos (the same instruments used by the media) and write your own story with the available facts vs reading one that has already been spun to serve an alternative purpose.[/QUOTE]
So you would turn a peaceful act into a violent one?
The cops are always telling people not to take action themselves. Here is a news flash, if someone breaks into my house and I am able, I will call the police, inform that I have an intruder and that I am armed. Then, if the perp or perps put me in a bad situation inside my own home, I may very well blow their brains out. But that is different, George Zimmerman never touched Trayvon until Trayvon attacked him. George was not breaking any law, Trayvon chose to react by breaking the law.
[QUOTE=ParrotScope;5151333]Travon Martin "jumped" (you really mean attacked 1 on 1) Georgia Zimmeran. After he unlawfully stalked and harassed him outside his own father's neighborhood.
Even the police told George to "stop following him!
Trayvon acted in self defense. I would assault anyone following me in the woods also. Or anyone following me period for that matter. So many injustices with that case.
SMH.[/QUOTE]
More Thoughts and My Police Story
[QUOTE=PunkedLife;5150317]After doing some research I do happen to agree with you. I haven't seen any video evidence myself but for the most part it seems like he was in the wrong. With that being said this is an isolated incident. The media tends to misconstrue their information to incite a reaction. But overall we do need reform. It's not just the killings. Although obviously that angers people more. It's the mentality that a lot of officers have, racist or not, that they are the law and what they say goes and they violate rights daily. Obviously they do it more to minorities and that is the main issue. How would you feel if you got pulled over by a cop for no reason, pulled from your vehicle for no reason or some made up shit like they smell weed for example, then these cops choose to make you lean against the hot hood of their vehicle or some more fucked up shit. Cops have been doing shit like this for ages. These small little acts just to fuckn with you and show you that your not shit. Some of these ended up in murders. Some of them were warranted while others were not. The only difference is the fact now that we have the advent of technology, we are seeing proof. [/QUOTE]Punked, again, nothing personal but the media narrative on many recent events, not just Jacob Blake, is based on cherry picked facts and very biased. If you really dig deep you may find that being pulled over for "nothing" rarely happens in these situations. What you also may find is that small things like a burned out taillight or expired tags escalate quickly for no good reason. The media keeps talking about "no justice for the murders" of Jacob Blake, George Floyd, Trevon Martin and Michael Brown. From what I have found and read, all of those individuals made poor choices that substantially contributed to their own death. Are the people with their fingers on the trigger completely blameless? Not in my opinion, as in hindsight, I can Monday morning quarterback an outcome that could avoid the death of many of these individuals. Thinking about the two kids in this name list is especially difficult. At the end of the day the problem is that the responding officers and people involved are forced to make split second life changing decisions while the rest of us have hours if not days to review video and first person accounts of events. No matter your opinion of who is "right or wrong" in these situations, I like to think that we all can find unity in agreement that if the individuals involved made different choices those departed may yet still be with us today.
I am white. When I was young and dumb I got a new license plate in the mail but couldn't put it on because my old one was rusted tight. I got pulled over for expired tags in a one traffic light town, gave the officer my license and papers, explained what was up, told the officer my new plate was in the back seat and turned around to get it. What I didn't see was his rookie partner behind the car. She drew and started yelling when I turned around. He didn't know what she saw and drew on me too. I was paralyzed with fear and a mouse fart away from having my brains decorate the inside of my windshield. When I figured out shit was going down and heard their instructions, I "dropped it" "slowly put my hands behind my head" "exited the vehicle backwards" "leaned over the hood and slowly put my hands behind my back. " I was cuffed, searched and ordered to "not move" while his partner searched my car and found "the object" I was holding which was a grocery bag of snacks and my new tags. They stepped away but I was close enough to hear them. They basically had a sigh of relief, told each other what they saw, agreed there was no weapon and then my I'd and papers came back clean. Even then his partner was still worked up, he told her to go put something in the trunk and take a moment to decompress. He then explained what happened and let me go without even a warning and told me that if I ever get stopped again, never ever take my hands off the steering wheel. I have been stopped twice since then without issue. Bad things happen to people who do dumb shit and can't follow simple instructions. I consider myself fortunate to only make one mistake that day. As I drove away I saw where his partner had puked up her lunch behind the cruiser. Looking back on events that happened 22 years ago, with much personal growth and maturity, I don't blame them. I also realize they may have been just as scared as me. I am so embarrassed about this, I have never told friends or family it even happened.
The Walter Scott shooting is one that personally bothers me. He was pulled over for a burned out tail light. He had no registration or insurance and a wavering story of who owned the car he was driving. He also had an outstanding arrest warrant for failure to pay child support. Despite all the flags both people act respectfully, at first. He gave his drivers license to the officer then decided to make a run for it when the officer was running his info.
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/04/09/tsr-dash-cam-walter-scott-police-shooting.cnn[/URL]
Another video starts when the officer catches Mr. Scott. It's not clear what happens but there is physical contact between the officer and Mr. Scott as Mr. Scott resists arrest and runs away, again. The officer claimed Mr. Scott grabbed his taser. The officer fired 7-8 times at Mr Scott as he was running away, killing Mr. Scott. The media made a slow motion frame by frame analysis that shows what appears to be the officer's taser be thrown behind him during the struggle. The officer appears to pick up the taser and lay it beside Mr. Scott's body after shooting him. Of everything that happened, that was the focus of the majority of the news that played on endless repeat.
I believe that of all the shootings with high media coverage that have occurred IMO this is the one that most closely fits the sensational headlines of "white cop shoots unarmed black man as he runs away. " As you can see there is much more to the story than the headline, but many fail to look beyond as the media continues to hammer this point, over and over and over again. Did Mr. Scott grab the officers taser? Did the officer not see it fly behind him and think Mr. Scott ran away with it? Is it even justifiable to shoot someone who has a taser? All good questions that will likely never have an answer we all agree with. When putting myself in this situation, I would like to think that with Mr. Scott being 50, even if he had my taser, I would have decided to chase him down again instead of shooting him. But again, Monday morning quarterback after days of thought vs the entire thing taking six seconds to unfold. The same "what if" could be pondered if Mr. Scott had decided to not run and be taken into custody on an outstanding warrant. Regardless of any of our opinions of "right or wrong" Mr. Scott is dead. Officer Slager ultimately took a plea deal. Violation of civil rights and obstruction of justice. He received a 20 year sentence. His wife was 8 months pregnant when the shooting happened. All of it was avoidable if those involved had made different choices. The whole thing is heartbreaking when you think of the families impacted.
Circling back to the media, when this shooting happened you couldn't find a news source that did not have constant coverage until the next big thing. There are only a few stories of the sentence and it was a mere bullet point in the nightly news, and no mention afterwards. If the media is really seeking justice for black deaths why is this outcome not celebrated and used as a positive example of what should happen in a civilized society? If you ask me, I think there are plenty of racial tensions for some very valid reasons in this country and the media is more interested in stoking that fire and inciting riots than constructively working towards solutions of real problems.
And just so you guys know, I am not some weirdo with an obsession of researching white cops shooting black men. I volunteer as a mentor for an African American Male Initiative program. When these events happen and my kids want to talk I skip the headlines, watch the videos with them and just talk with them about what they think, how they feel and ask them how things could have been different. I have had these discussions far too frequently, and can only offer hopes and prayers that we all start changing our behaviors for the better.
Some people can't be cops
[QUOTE=JunkSecond;5152179]Punked, again, nothing personal but the media narrative on many recent events, not just Jacob Blake, is based on cherry picked facts and very biased. If you really dig deep you may find that being pulled over for "nothing" rarely happens in these situations. What you also may find is that small things like a burned out taillight or expired tags escalate quickly for no good reason. The media keeps talking about "no justice for the murders" of Jacob Blake, George Floyd, Trevon Martin and Michael Brown. From what I have found and read, all of those individuals made poor choices that substantially contributed to their own death. Are the people with their fingers on the trigger completely blameless? Not in my opinion, as in hindsight, I can Monday morning quarterback an outcome that could avoid the death of many of these individuals. Thinking about the two kids in this name list is especially difficult. At the end of the day the problem is that the responding officers and people involved are forced to make split second life changing decisions while the rest of us have hours if not days to review video and first person accounts of events. No matter your opinion of who is "right or wrong" in these situations, I like to think that we all can find unity in agreement that if the individuals involved made different choices those departed may yet still be with us today.
I am white. When I was young and dumb I got a new license plate in the mail but couldn't put it on because my old one was rusted tight. I got pulled over for expired tags in a one traffic light town, gave the officer my license and papers, explained what was up, told the officer my new plate was in the back seat and turned around to get it. What I didn't see was his rookie partner behind the car. She drew and started yelling when I turned around. He didn't know what she saw and drew on me too. I was paralyzed with fear and a mouse fart away from having my brains decorate the inside of my windshield. When I figured out shit was going down and heard their instructions, I "dropped it" "slowly put my hands behind my head" "exited the vehicle backwards" "leaned over the hood and slowly put my hands behind my back. " I was cuffed, searched and ordered to "not move" while his partner searched my car and found "the object" I was holding which was a grocery bag of snacks and my new tags. They stepped away but I was close enough to hear them. They basically had a sigh of relief, told each other what they saw, agreed there was no weapon and then my I'd and papers came back clean. Even then his partner was still worked up, he told her to go put something in the trunk and take a moment to decompress. He then explained what happened and let me go without even a warning and told me that if I ever get stopped again, never ever take my hands off the steering wheel. I have been stopped twice since then without issue. Bad things happen to people who do dumb shit and can't follow simple instructions. I consider myself fortunate to only make one mistake that day. As I drove away I saw where his partner had puked up her lunch behind the cruiser. Looking back on events that happened 22 years ago, with much personal growth and maturity, I don't blame them. I also realize they may have been just as scared as me. I am so embarrassed about this, I have never told friends or family it even happened.
The Walter Scott shooting is one that personally bothers me. He was pulled over for a burned out tail light. He had no registration or insurance and a wavering story of who owned the car he was driving. He also had an outstanding arrest warrant for failure to pay child support. Despite all the flags both people act respectfully, at first. He gave his drivers license to the officer then decided to make a run for it when the officer was running his info.
[URL]https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/04/09/tsr-dash-cam-walter-scott-police-shooting.cnn[/URL]
Another video starts when the officer catches Mr. Scott. It's not clear what happens but there is physical contact between the officer and Mr. Scott as Mr. Scott resists arrest and runs away, again. The officer claimed Mr. Scott grabbed his taser. The officer fired 7-8 times at Mr Scott as he was running away, killing Mr. Scott. The media made a slow motion frame by frame analysis that shows what appears to be the officer's taser be thrown behind him during the struggle. The officer appears to pick up the taser and lay it beside Mr. Scott's body after shooting him. Of everything that happened, that was the focus of the majority of the news that played on endless repeat.
I believe that of all the shootings with high media coverage that have occurred IMO this is the one that most closely fits the sensational headlines of "white cop shoots unarmed black man as he runs away. " As you can see there is much more to the story than the headline, but many fail to look beyond as the media continues to hammer this point, over and over and over again. Did Mr. Scott grab the officers taser? Did the officer not see it fly behind him and think Mr. Scott ran away with it? Is it even justifiable to shoot someone who has a taser? All good questions that will likely never have an answer we all agree with. When putting myself in this situation, I would like to think that with Mr. Scott being 50, even if he had my taser, I would have decided to chase him down again instead of shooting him. But again, Monday morning quarterback after days of thought vs the entire thing taking six seconds to unfold. The same "what if" could be pondered if Mr. Scott had decided to not run and be taken into custody on an outstanding warrant. Regardless of any of our opinions of "right or wrong" Mr. Scott is dead. Officer Slager ultimately took a plea deal. Violation of civil rights and obstruction of justice. He received a 20 year sentence. His wife was 8 months pregnant when the shooting happened. All of it was avoidable if those involved had made different choices. The whole thing is heartbreaking when you think of the families impacted.
Circling back to the media, when this shooting happened you couldn't find a news source that did not have constant coverage until the next big thing. There are only a few stories of the sentence and it was a mere bullet point in the nightly news, and no mention afterwards. If the media is really seeking justice for black deaths why is this outcome not celebrated and used as a positive example of what should happen in a civilized society? If you ask me, I think there are plenty of racial tensions for some very valid reasons in this country and the media is more interested in stoking that fire and inciting riots than constructively working towards solutions of real problems.
And just so you guys know, I am not some weirdo with an obsession of researching white cops shooting black men. I volunteer as a mentor for an African American Male Initiative program. When these events happen and my kids want to talk I skip the headlines, watch the videos with them and just talk with them about what they think, how they feel and ask them how things could have been different. I have had these discussions far too frequently, and can only offer hopes and prayers that we all start changing our behaviors for the better.[/QUOTE]That is the difference between our kinds though. At least one. You see as a black man, you get this lesson earlier in life and don't make mistakes like reaching for things or putting your hands in your pocket. And while I know that keeps you from getting shot it usually applies to minorities. And also social status. If Brad pit gets pulled over and reaches in his car ain't no cop going to get antsy. But I bet you Jay z did the same then he just might get shot. So the neighborhood does play a part in it. White boys commit crimes too and that's why that female cop reacted like that. But also a lot of them just have that mindset that you obey them or else. They or else can be your life. I watch a lot of videos on YouTube where people go out of there way to get into a confrontation with cops just to flex their rights. Many times they are in the right as far as the law goes and do at times educate the cops. They refuse to show identification unless a crime is being committed. And they dona lot of little things that I know many people in the hood, mostly black and Hispanics but also some white guys don't have the luxury to dispute. We aren't complaining or calling these white dudes racists because most of the time if they live in the hood they pretty much in the same position and the cops treat them so. Cops do abuse their power. And they do that shit ALOT. The media and the mass really do at times present misinformation and people want to point these things out. Cool. But also point out all the evidence that shows cops extorting citizens, raping prostitutes or regular women at times, belittling people and treating them like dirt, falsifying evidence and sending innocent people to jail for decades or longer, etc etc. How do we know about these things? There are instances where abusers get caught after years of fucking people over or now that there is always someone filming you might get lucky and catch an officer planting drugs in a car or threatening a woman or a man for sexual pleasure and other things. You think the ones that get caught are the majority? No that's a small percentage of corruption. And we are fucking tired of it. That's the main thing people need to realize. Don't think so small minded. Don't focuson just one thing or disproving every little thing the media pushes. At least you have personal experience. So many others live their lives with their white or wealthy privilege and they are clueless to WTF is going on around them. Or worse they don't give a fuck.
Not necessarily a total truth
I said before, my skin is as white as they come but an Atlanta Cop almost pulled a gun on me. Almost midnight on Stewart Ave and I had dropped my DL between the seat and the door and I am trying to find it while talking to the cop. He already had my Army I'd and my car had Army baes sticker but it made him nervous. He stepped back put is hand on his gun and told me a near Drill Sergeant voice to put my hands on the wheel. I do not care for people making a truth out of a "What If" scenario.
[QUOTE=PunkedLife;5153493]That is the difference between our kinds though. At least one. You see as a black man, you get this lesson earlier in life and don't make mistakes like reaching for things or putting your hands in your pocket. And while I know that keeps you from getting shot it usually applies to minorities. And also social status. If Brad pit gets pulled over and reaches in his car ain't no cop going to get antsy. But I bet you Jay z did the same then he just might get shot. So the neighborhood does play a part in it. White boys commit crimes too and that's why that female cop reacted like that. But also a lot of them just have that mindset that you obey them or else. They or else can be your life. I watch a lot of videos on YouTube where people go out of there way to get into a confrontation with cops just to flex their rights. Many times they are in the right as far as the law goes and do at times educate the cops. They refuse to show identification unless a crime is being committed. And they dona lot of little things that I know many people in the hood, mostly black and Hispanics but also some white guys don't have the luxury to dispute. We aren't complaining or calling these white dudes racists because most of the time if they live in the hood they pretty much in the same position and the cops treat them so. Cops do abuse their power. And they do that shit ALOT. The media and the mass really do at times present misinformation and people want to point these things out. Cool. But also point out all the evidence that shows cops extorting citizens, raping prostitutes or regular women at times, belittling people and treating them like dirt, falsifying evidence and sending innocent people to jail for decades or longer, etc etc. How do we know about these things? There are instances where abusers get caught after years of fucking people over or now that there is always someone filming you might get lucky and catch an officer planting drugs in a car or threatening a woman or a man for sexual pleasure and other things. You think the ones that get caught are the majority? No that's a small percentage of corruption. And we are fucking tired of it. That's the main thing people need to realize. Don't think so small minded. Don't focuson just one thing or disproving every little thing the media pushes. At least you have personal experience. So many others live their lives with their white or wealthy privilege and they are clueless to WTF is going on around them. Or worse they don't give a fuck.[/QUOTE]
No more rubmaps at lease for a while
[URL]https://www.cbs46.com/news/police-crack-down-on-sites-promoting-illicit-massage-parlors/article_59b81b3c-340d-11ea-b255-536eaf0bc8fa.html[/URL]
Snow Massage and Good Massage in Buford. Busted
Just read today that Snow and Good were raided and ladies at both places were busted: [URL]https://www.mainstreetnews.com/braselton/public_safety/three-charged-following-undercover-massage-business-investigation/article_0ca8b7a5-87b4-5d2f-ad0d-41f245f603f0.html[/URL].
There goes two of my favorite parlors. Shit!
Snow Massage and good massage being raided
Any detail news about Snow Massage and Good massage being raided?
[URL]https://nowhabersham.com/three-arrested-in-undercover-massage-business-investigation/[/URL]
Be safe!
Snow Massage and good massage being raided
[QUOTE=JMinnie;5190054]Any detail news about Snow Massage and Good massage being raided?
[URL]https://nowhabersham.com/three-arrested-in-undercover-massage-business-investigation/[/URL]
Be safe![/QUOTE]Had lunch a while back at Vinny's Pizza. After lunch walked into SNOW for a look-around. Old man and old woman behind the counter. Took a card and never went back. I wasn't aware that GOOD was tucked in up there. I've never had appreciable success in that area, so quit looking long ago.
Federal Agents are actively cleaning sex massage parlors / prostitution
[URL]https://youtu.be/VxcTSrACfHg[/URL]
Watch close to the middle of the section.
Some sources stated they traced the clients and providers performed at places like hotels or clients'/ providers' places.
Be safe!
