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[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3850203]She's in Snow White now, eh?! Thank you A2! I've never been to Snow White. But I will be sure to head over there when I return to BKK in 6 months! Because then I will have her set up the BB theeesomes with a brand new crop of girls! It is true that the ladies in Tulip tend to be a bit older than in some of the other venues. But as in the USA, nothing beats a mature woman with some substantial experience under her belt (pun intended!) for pure, unadulterated cum-slutery!

But I like the young ones, too! In fact, for me, it's all about the variety! I have had some fabulous BB threesomes in Thailand where one lady was in her late 40's and the other early 20's! I even had a 4-some all nighter there once when I was younger, with a 19 year old, a 30-something year old, and a circa 48 year old! Now THAT was like herding cats! Siamese cats, LOL!

For the young ones that are FABULOUS eye candy, though, I go to the bars or else the streets. I have pulled some GORGEOUS 20-something model types in fact, from the go go bars and from the Nana Hotel parking lot next to Hooters! Those Nana car park girls can often be had full GFE and bareback CIP for as little as 1000 Baht. (about 35 bucks). I'll try to go thru my Thailand database soon and post some pics of a couple of the best of the best of those incredible beauties! And there are SO many to choose from! I guess that is why the shortened Thai name for Bangkok, Krong Thep, means "city of the angels"! I fuckin' love Thailand![/QUOTE]Here is a selection of circa 18 to 25 year olds I've pulled from the bars or the street, over the years--all full GFE and BBFSCIP (I always interview them before taking them, to make sure!) Ranging from about $30 to $100 US, including a short time room if needed, for about 2 hours, and including barfine depending on whether they are street free-lancers, or came out of a bar. As you can see these are young ones, and they ARE hotties, yes?!

When in the mood for young model quality, bareback full service or otherwise, I'd recommend hitting the bars and the streets for the widest variety of shapes, ages, body types, and ethnicities (the fair-skinned northwest/Chaing Mai cuties, and of course, the darker little northeast Issan honies! For your selection! But if you want to fuck more experienced, more mature ladies who virtually all take ass as well as pussy deposits and are willing to do the most depraved of fetishes with a smile, then IMHO, head straight for Tulip!

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pE2bvjpl9WifVJgomHmM2Fb0nqMCJJm2/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FSHgZ7luxoTbLXnMeReAnDQzvJVwNffR/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qgyLOWzC2f7drTgh8Fxq9VvBhl-mEBQ1/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vFlBaDQofG1u2qlIiERz4syyq4OH9jjT/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BtZ-KnuNfpaK5oN3OMxVtUlVU00RONZL/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wYwwDk7SavUZIJyt8pKGumsghkzmY1-6/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iQn_NcLM5e3ugO_7cBoAqL6NMoEB1IDb/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZrYJ1zCsRKq1YfcJTAwDfN6_t_pb2ycc/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aps77h0zWdSL9YYrsbMq2IyFt_FpEepd/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mxUZZzxxY1ijyXl20Oe4qBWpm8C9Q70F/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

Fuckin' A, KOF!! Great stuff! Number 4 is way hot, and 6 is pretty hot too. Thanks for sharing bro!

[QUOTE=DurtyDawg;3850426]Fuckin' A, KOF!! Great stuff! Number 4 is way hot, and 6 is pretty hot too. Thanks for sharing bro![/QUOTE]My favorite of those 10 was #5, little 4 foot 9 inch, 18 year old Bon Bon! No kids, no stretch marks, tight little sweet wet box, drop dead gorgeous as you can see, and made out passionately like on her honeymoon and fucked like a pornstar. One of the best I've had anywhere, ever! I call her my "Dancing Queen", because when I first spotted her, she was dancing nude on stage and shaking her hot little ass to that tune--she was the hottest one in there that night, in my opinion! She was just a one night stand, though. I went back to the Erotica Bar the next night and couldn't find her, and in fact never could find her again. Maybe a good thing, too. Because if I'd found her again, I might have fuckin' married her!

Here are a couple more pics of the little sweetie!

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xTsuqM_Z2x-In5wSkk3bQhwvhvjfLWMy/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LGxxp9G8xCvdEh8vdh-zcBJizf0rC3VU/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3850704]Maybe a good thing, too. Because if I'd found her again, I might have fuckin' married her! [/QUOTE]Hah!! I hear that, Bro. Gorgeous little doll there. I had one a very, VERY long time ago in Ft Likkerdale, an island girl, that was a keeper but we never married. She fucked up royally and at the time I was too hot-headed to forgive her.

Great pics Brother.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3850405]Here is a selection of circa 18 to 25 year olds I've pulled from the bars or the street, over the years--all full GFE and BBFSCIP (I always interview them before taking them, to make sure!) Ranging from about $30 to $100 US, including a short time room if needed, for about 2 hours, and including barfine depending on whether they are street free-lancers, or came out of a bar. As you can see these are young ones, and they ARE hotties, yes?!

When in the mood for young model quality, bareback full service or otherwise, I'd recommend hitting the bars and the streets for the widest variety of shapes, ages, body types, and ethnicities (the fair-skinned northwest/Chaing Mai cuties, and of course, the darker little northeast Issan honies! For your selection! But if you want to fuck more experienced, more mature ladies who virtually all take ass as well as pussy deposits and are willing to do the most depraved of fetishes with a smile, then IMHO, head straight for Tulip!

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pE2bvjpl9WifVJgomHmM2Fb0nqMCJJm2/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FSHgZ7luxoTbLXnMeReAnDQzvJVwNffR/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qgyLOWzC2f7drTgh8Fxq9VvBhl-mEBQ1/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vFlBaDQofG1u2qlIiERz4syyq4OH9jjT/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BtZ-KnuNfpaK5oN3OMxVtUlVU00RONZL/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wYwwDk7SavUZIJyt8pKGumsghkzmY1-6/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1iQn_NcLM5e3ugO_7cBoAqL6NMoEB1IDb/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZrYJ1zCsRKq1YfcJTAwDfN6_t_pb2ycc/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1aps77h0zWdSL9YYrsbMq2IyFt_FpEepd/view?usp=sharing[/URL]

[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mxUZZzxxY1ijyXl20Oe4qBWpm8C9Q70F/view?usp=sharing[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice girls, but none to compare to the Thailand Beauties. The only reason I never visited because there was a big AIDS Scare there in the 90's and the Phils were considered safer. Bareback action good there but you had to search out the BBBJ girls.

[QUOTE=Raven1950;3851293]Nice girls, but none to compare to the Thailand Beauties. The only reason I never visited because there was a big AIDS Scare there in the 90's and the Phils were considered safer. Bareback action good there but you had to search out the BBBJ girls.[/QUOTE]I've spent a week in Manila but could not monger there because of constrained circumstances. But I did get a chance to look, of course, and I did have a raw-doggin' fine time one night in a threesome with a couple of young hot Philipina hotel maids in Hong Kong that I pulled from a disco! And I suppose it's mainly personal preference, but I agree, on the average, the Thai girls are way hotter!

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3851772]I've spent a week in Manila but could not monger there because of constrained circumstances. But I did get a chance to look, of course, and I did have a raw-doggin' fine time one night in a threesome with a couple of young hot Philipina hotel maids in Hong Kong that I pulled from a disco! And I suppose it's mainly personal preference, but I agree, on the average, the Thai girls are way hotter![/QUOTE]And I'll never forget what Jay Severin said once said about Asian women on his old talk radio show (and no, I am NOT Jay! Even when they are plain, they are pretty. And when they are pretty, they are gorgeous. But when they are gorgeous, they simply take your breath away! .

[QUOTE=BrandonNe;3864359]Had a very strange interaction with her, asked if she had any reviews. She sent me a link to this site and of course I see the tepid reviews upfront. I declined the meeting and requested she contact me if she gets any more reviews that might be positive and she texted back "go fuck yourself".

She did quote 300 like you have all mentioned.[/QUOTE]Just a heads up gents, you aren't the only ones that read these comments.

[QUOTE=BrandonNe;3864870]Just a heads up gents, you aren't the only ones that read these comments.[/QUOTE]Of course we're not. It's not like this forum is private or anything. It's widely known in the industry. The safest thing would be to assume that ALL providers know about this place and check in to see what's being said about them.

[QUOTE=MongerBob;3865410]Of course we're not. It's not like this forum is private or anything. It's widely known in the industry. The safest thing would be to assume that ALL providers know about this place and check in to see what's being said about them.[/QUOTE]Yup, and then complain when an honest review is given, asking for it to be changed.

[QUOTE=VanillaPorter;3865429]Yup, and then complain when an honest review is given, asking for it to be changed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MongerBob;3865410]Of course we're not. It's not like this forum is private or anything. It's widely known in the industry. The safest thing would be to assume that ALL providers know about this place and check in to see what's being said about them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrandonNe;3864870]Just a heads up gents, you aren't the only ones that read these comments.[/QUOTE]Some guys are forever making a deal about this. It breaks down one of three ways.

1. She's good at what she does and doesn't care about her reviews. Good, you shouldn't care what she thinks about your reviews either.

2. She's good at what she does but wants to control you by telling you what you may or write about her. Ask her if she still wants your money or should you give it to somebody else. The day some of you figure out that they need to pay the rent more than you need pussy will indeed be a great day.

3. She's not good at what she does. Who fucking cares what she thinks about the review.

In any event pretty fucking please end the drama about this.

A2.

LOL. She's a good soul. Whatever it is, I'm sure it's temporary.

[QUOTE=BrandonNe;3864870]Just a heads up gents, you aren't the only ones that read these comments.[/QUOTE]

A2.

Thank you and Amen!

RiDe.

[QUOTE=Admin2;3865575]Some guys are forever making a deal about this. It breaks down one of three ways.

1. She's good at what she does and doesn't care about her reviews. Good, you shouldn't care what she thinks about your reviews either.

2. She's good at what she does but wants to control you by telling you what you may or write about her. Ask her if she still wants your money or should you give it to somebody else. The day some of you figure out that they need to pay the rent more than you need pussy will indeed be a great day.

3. She's not good at what she does. Who fucking cares what she thinks about the review.

In any event pretty fucking please end the drama about this.

A2.[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen, with all due respect, and I'm NOT trying to start a fight, but this REALLY gets irritating and counterproductive. Its a terrible waste of time trying to get missing, essential information by back and forth communications--it can sometimes take several days. Its a problem that can very easily be avoided, if you would PLEASE just put that essential info into your reports, when you first post them? And I suspect I'm not the only one that is bugged by this. But could those of you that write what I call "caveman reports", such as "I had a great time with Jane Doe", could you PLEASE, instead, be so kind as to just take an extra 30 seconds, and let us know exactly WHAT Jane Doe does (CFS vs BBFS, BBBJ vs CBJ, DFK or not, etc), and HOW MUCH she charges? That would SURELY make everything a LOT easier for everybody!

Because without that essential info, who the fuck even CARES whether YOU had a great time with Jane Doe! What we all need to know is what she does, and for how much, in order to find out whether or not WE, TOO, would have a "great time" with her!

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3873326]Gentlemen, with all due respect, and I'm NOT trying to start a fight, but this REALLY gets irritating and counterproductive. Its a terrible waste of time trying to get missing, essential information by back and forth communications--it can sometimes take several days. Its a problem that can very easily be avoided, if you would PLEASE just put that essential info into your reports, when you first post them? And I suspect I'm not the only one that is bugged by this. But could those of you that write what I call "caveman reports", such as "I had a great time with Jane Doe", could you PLEASE, instead, be so kind as to just take an extra 30 seconds, and let us know exactly WHAT Jane Doe does (CFS vs BBFS, BBBJ vs CBJ, DFK or not, etc), and HOW MUCH she charges? That would SURELY make everything a LOT easier for everybody!

Because without that essential info, who the fuck even CARES whether YOU had a great time with Jane Doe! What we all need to know is what she does, and for how much, in order to find out whether or not WE, TOO, would have a "great time" with her![/QUOTE]I could not agree more. I personally am a SW fan. A good description would be great. Hight weight, black, white, old, young, hair color. Where and when did you scoop her and a name if she uses one would be very helpful.

MG,

I hope you are happy. The same advice you give applies to you too.

[QUOTE=MikeGeorge;3873350]I could not agree more. I personally am a SW fan. A good description would be great. Hight weight, black, white, old, young, hair color. Where and when did you scoop her and a name if she uses one would be very helpful.[/QUOTE]

We all need to do better. Asking if she does BBFS on every post is not providing information either. I really do not give a fuck about Thailand, Providence or Central Florida is all I care about. As for BBFS most of the girls do it. If you ask it becomes an up charge issue. Just approach it as if there is no question and they just do it. There are exceptions to this but not many. Sometimes you get OK but don't cum in me. For SWs here is the deal.

You: I want to fuck you.

Her: Lets stop and get a condom.

You: No fucking way.

Her: I don't do that.

You: OK I will bring you back to where I picked you up.

Her: Alright maybe just this once and only for you.

I just do not get the big deal of BBFS. It is just the way it is. No fucking discussion, no exception, no up charges and no taking no for an answer. The thing we forget is we have the money and they want it.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3873326]Gentlemen, with all due respect, and I'm NOT trying to start a fight, but this REALLY gets irritating and counterproductive. Its a terrible waste of time trying to get missing, essential information by back and forth communications--it can sometimes take several days. Its a problem that can very easily be avoided, if you would PLEASE just put that essential info into your reports, when you first post them? And I suspect I'm not the only one that is bugged by this. But could those of you that write what I call "caveman reports", such as "I had a great time with Jane Doe", could you PLEASE, instead, be so kind as to just take an extra 30 seconds, and let us know exactly WHAT Jane Doe does (CFS vs BBFS, BBBJ vs CBJ, DFK or not, etc), and HOW MUCH she charges? That would SURELY make everything a LOT easier for everybody!

Because without that essential info, who the fuck even CARES whether YOU had a great time with Jane Doe! What we all need to know is what she does, and for how much, in order to find out whether or not WE, TOO, would have a "great time" with her![/QUOTE]

66 posts & not one review, just all questions, yeah you've helped others how exactly?

All take & no give gets you ignored, bye bye needle dick.

[QUOTE=JoeHabo;3958008]Thanks man see that was very helpful. That is what this site is all about helping others.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoeHabo;3957611]It's a different Paris douche bag!! Why don't you read the shit before you leave a stupid comment!![/QUOTE]And Glennie wasn't being a douche bag, but you sure in hell are.

[QUOTE=Skatar018;3958259]66 posts & not one review, just all questions, yeah you've helped others how exactly?

All take & no give gets you ignored, bye bye needle dick.



And Glennie wasn't being a douche bag, but you sure in hell are.[/QUOTE]Skatar, you are 100% correct. I posted some info when he asked about a provider, then he hit me up via PM for even more detailed info. A day or 2 later he's asking for info on yet another provider with no review or comments on the girl I gave him the info about. I checked his posts and saw he has ONLY asked questions, never has provided a single contribution. Yeah, I'm not a prolific poster myself as I just don't hobby that often and when I do I tend to stay with a select few. However, I learned early on not to ask unless you were willing to provide some intel as well. This guy hasn't done that, I won't be feeding that troll again.

[QUOTE=Moonshiner;3874042]We all need to do better. Asking if she does BBFS on every post is not providing information either. I really do not give a fuck about Thailand, Providence or Central Florida is all I care about. As for BBFS most of the girls do it. If you ask it becomes an up charge issue. Just approach it as if there is no question and they just do it. There are exceptions to this but not many. Sometimes you get OK but don't cum in me. For SWs here is the deal.

You: I want to fuck you.

Her: Lets stop and get a condom.

You: No fucking way.

Her: I don't do that.

You: OK I will bring you back to where I picked you up.

Her: Alright maybe just this once and only for you.

I just do not get the big deal of BBFS. It is just the way it is. No fucking discussion, no exception, no up charges and no taking no for an answer. The thing we forget is we have the money and they want it.[/QUOTE]Sure that works for SW or a girl desperate. Girls that are not street walkers and not desperate, have their rules and may not budge about doing BBFS. Some won't even do BBJ.

Every girl is different and there is no logic to their rules of what they will or won't. Sometimes their rules vary by how much they like you. Sometimes it seems it is which way the wind is blowing. Better to know as much info going in to make a decision if she is worth it for you, than to go in blind and waste time and money not getting what you want.

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I always think it's funny when somebody accuses somebody of only being a tough guy from behind the computer when he's behind his computer.

Do it again and you will be gone.

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[QUOTE=Willfullone;3967351]What do you search for? I get like 100 mandy's Come up.[/QUOTE]Am I the only one who kinda thinks it's not cool that these videos were uploaded most likely without the consent of the providers who are in them? In some cases (like Destiny) even the filming itself was taking place without their knowledge. That feels kinda. Not OK. This doesn't bother anyone else?

[QUOTE=HighlanderFR;3967381]Am I the only one who kinda thinks it's not cool that these videos were uploaded most likely without the consent of the providers who are in them? In some cases (like Destiny) even the filming itself was taking place without their knowledge. That feels kinda. Not OK. This doesn't bother anyone else?[/QUOTE]I've got to say...no, it's not only you. I'm guessing I'll probably be in the minority, and most guys here won't give a shit about this, but paying these girls for sex is one thing. Everyone agrees on the exchange, it's all consensual, no harm no foul. But unless the provider has given permission for these videos to be uploaded and shared (and let's not even get into the case where it's obvious there wasn't even permission for the video to be MADE in the first place), then this is a whole different thing. It's a violation of trust and privacy, and may actually be a felony in some cases. Guessing this won't be a popular opinion, but I can't keep it to myself after seeing the last couple pages. Hookers are still human beings. Consent is still required for whatever we do with them. This is really making me view a lot of the members here in a different light.

I get where you are coming from especially the destiny video which was clearly without her consent. But if a provider is allowing for videos to be taken and thinking that it won't end up being shared with others then she's just an idiot. I don't feel bad for them if they are clearly allowing for the videos to be taken. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=MongerBob;3969377]I've got to say...no, it's not only you. I'm guessing I'll probably be in the minority, and most guys here won't give a shit about this, but paying these girls for sex is one thing. Everyone agrees on the exchange, it's all consensual, no harm no foul. But unless the provider has given permission for these videos to be uploaded and shared (and let's not even get into the case where it's obvious there wasn't even permission for the video to be MADE in the first place), then this is a whole different thing. It's a violation of trust and privacy, and may actually be a felony in some cases. Guessing this won't be a popular opinion, but I can't keep it to myself after seeing the last couple pages. Hookers are still human beings. Consent is still required for whatever we do with them. This is really making me view a lot of the members here in a different light.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=XxxCaliber;3969414]I get where you are coming from especially the destiny video which was clearly without her consent. But if a provider is allowing for videos to be taken and thinking that it won't end up being shared with others then she's just an idiot. I don't feel bad for them if they are clearly allowing for the videos to be taken. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]In my humble opinion, there's another factor involved. If I were allowed to take a video with the clear understanding that it was not to be shared on the internet, then MY integrity becomes the significant point. I would never post the video. I do have some and would never consider posting them because I said I wouldn't.

[QUOTE=PSil;3969611]In my humble opinion, there's another factor involved. If I were allowed to take a video with the clear understanding that it was not to be shared on the internet, then MY integrity becomes the significant point. I would never post the video. I do have some and would never consider posting them because I said I wouldn't.[/QUOTE]XxxCaliber isn't wrong in saying that it's a bit naive to think that pictures or videos that you allow to be taken are never going to be shared. But that's still a sad commentary about the integrity of many of their clients, especially when it's explicitly stated that such material is NOT to be shared (which I know is the case for Mandy at the very least). Providers like Destiny, Mandy and Julie do nothing but provide amazing service at a fair price, and try very hard to please their clients. You'd think that showing a little appreciation by at least respecting their rules and boundaries wouldn't be too much to ask.

[QUOTE=HighlanderFR;3967381]Am I the only one who kinda thinks it's not cool that these videos were uploaded most likely without the consent of the providers who are in them? In some cases (like Destiny) even the filming itself was taking place without their knowledge. That feels kinda. Not OK. This doesn't bother anyone else?[/QUOTE]I agree with you completely. In the Destiny video there is no doubt that it is wrong. With the ones taken with permission for personal use, posting them is simply taking advantage of that person's lack of judgement in thinking it would be kept confidential.

These girls have families and friends that may not be aware of what they do for a living and putting this out there is clearly wrong.

Imagine if you were seen in the video and she released it. Don't even want to think about that.

I Absoultely agree with you guys. I have nearly 100 videos that I would never post for a couple reasons. First being that I said I wouldn't. Second being that if I post these video's and the provider finds out she most likely won't allow for other mongers to make their own videos.

[QUOTE=MongerBob;3969793]XxxCaliber isn't wrong in saying that it's a bit naive to think that pictures or videos that you allow to be taken are never going to be shared. But that's still a sad commentary about the integrity of many of their clients, especially when it's explicitly stated that such material is NOT to be shared (which I know is the case for Mandy at the very least). Providers like Destiny, Mandy and Julie do nothing but provide amazing service at a fair price, and try very hard to please their clients. You'd think that showing a little appreciation by at least respecting their rules and boundaries wouldn't be too much to ask.[/QUOTE]

What is the difference between posting a review on here about a provider. Including names, nicknames, real first names, descriptions of hair, general areas of living, description of body to the size of their nipples and posting a video? I do not take videos of any of my encounters because frankly some I sure as hell don't want to remember. The ones I want to remember, trust me, I do remember. I just don't think there is much difference between a video and a review. A difference, yes, but oh so slight. I can find pictures of Mandy, Destiny, or any other provider all over the internet, some they have posted themselves. I am sorry I just don't agree. This is all part of the game when you enter. I had one of these broads a while back post my face picture on one of those John sites telling all beware. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Fun0410;3970373]What is the difference between posting a review on here about a provider. Including names, nicknames, real first names, descriptions of hair, general areas of living, description of body to the size of their nipples and posting a video? I do not take videos of any of my encounters because frankly some I sure as hell don't want to remember. The ones I want to remember, trust me, I do remember. I just don't think there is much difference between a video and a review. A difference, yes, but oh so slight. I can find pictures of Mandy, Destiny, or any other provider all over the internet, some they have posted themselves. I am sorry I just don't agree. This is all part of the game when you enter. I had one of these broads a while back post my face picture on one of those John sites telling all beware. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]You seriously don't understand the HUGE difference? Written descriptions are very general. You can't make a positive ID of someone based on that alone. There are likely hundreds of girls within any geographic area that might fit the general description of any of these providers. But having her FACE fully visible is a whole different story. I'll agree that in the case of Destiny, where she puts her face right there in her ad, it's kind of hard to say that her identity would be any more compromised by a video than it already is (however recording someone without their knowledge is a WHOLE different level of vile and creepy in and of itself). But some of these girls have never put their face in any of their ads. And let's also not forget that the simple existence of an ad for escort services isn't proof of any illegal activity taking place. But VIDEO of the act itself sure is. Come on, man, don't be obtuse about this. Anyone with common sense should be able to see there's a MASSIVE difference.

[QUOTE=XxxCaliber;3969817]I Absoultely agree with you guys. I have nearly 100 videos that I would never post for a couple reasons. First being that I said I wouldn't. Second being that if I post these video's and the provider finds out she most likely won't allow for other mongers to make their own videos.[/QUOTE]And here's another good reason: there's no "if" regarding the provider finding out once it gets posted here. I can promise you they found out very quickly in fact. And one of them was able to identify the guy who made and uploaded these videos. Hope he really enjoys jerking off to the videos he made, because he's never going to get to experience the real thing again. I wonder if it was worth it.

I won't name any names but I know people who regularly post videos on pornhub and the sort. I don't know if they have the providers' permission to do so but somehow I doubt it. I've always wondered about that. I would never post because I don't need to win any popularity contests and I wouldn't want to be at the wrong end of legal action, although the thinking is that most providers are far from able to launch any legal action. But what if they banded together one day add did a class action suit?

The Julie / Mandy videos are fair game to be honest. They clearly consented to being filmed, so its their own fault for it being on the internet. Why would they trust a person they JUST met to keep it for private use?

I don't trust these girls in the slightest (even the nice ones). Go follow some providers on twitter for some daily intake on what they really think about most mongers. I've seen them post pictures, numbers, even saw a girl once put a whole guys information (name and workplace) in a tweet because he canceled on her last minute. Trust goes both ways and the majority of providers will bury you in a heart beat.

In the case of Destiny, I do think their is a line crossed. It's clearly a hidden cam video that she didn't consent to. I don't know the legality of these type of videos or if they fall under "revenge" porn laws or what, but I do know that the law varies from state-to-state.

[QUOTE=TwinSnow99;3970665]The Julie / Mandy videos are fair game to be honest. They clearly consented to being filmed, so its their own fault for it being on the internet. Why would they trust a person they JUST met to keep it for private use?

I don't trust these girls in the slightest (even the nice ones). Go follow some providers on twitter for some daily intake on what they really think about most mongers. I've seen them post pictures, numbers, even saw a girl once put a whole guys information (name and workplace) in a tweet because he canceled on her last minute. Trust goes both ways and the majority of providers will bury you in a heart beat.

In the case of Destiny, I do think their is a line crossed. It's clearly a hidden cam video that she didn't consent to. I don't know the legality of these type of videos or if they fall under "revenge" porn laws or what, but I do know that the law varies from state-to-state.[/QUOTE]I'm certainly not a legal mind here, but from what I understand, videoing without consent is illegal. A couple of those are clearly consensual while one appears to almost definitely not be.

[QUOTE=TwinSnow99;3970665]The Julie / Mandy videos are fair game to be honest. They clearly consented to being filmed, so its their own fault for it being on the internet. Why would they trust a person they JUST met to keep it for private use?[/QUOTE]This is the same sort of logic where you ask "Well what was she wearing?" when you hear about a girl being raped. Classic victim blaming. Whether they were naive to trust the clients or not doesn't make it right to violate their trust.

[QUOTE=TwinSnow99;3970665]I don't trust these girls in the slightest (even the nice ones). Go follow some providers on twitter for some daily intake on what they really think about most mongers. I've seen them post pictures, numbers, even saw a girl once put a whole guys information (name and workplace) in a tweet because he canceled on her last minute. Trust goes both ways and the majority of providers will bury you in a heart beat.[/QUOTE]Trust does go both ways. When has there EVER been a report of any of the three providers in these videos (who have all been active for years) screwing over one of their clients? I can't think of a single time. But now they've been screwed over. If they showed their clients a certain measure of trust before, I guarantee it's going to be a lot less now.

[QUOTE=TwinSnow99;3970665]In the case of Destiny, I do think their is a line crossed. It's clearly a hidden cam video that she didn't consent to. I don't know the legality of these type of videos or if they fall under "revenge" porn laws or what, but I do know that the law varies from state-to-state.[/QUOTE]Revenge porn laws could apply in the case of posting the videos online, even if the videos were taken consensually, though I'm not sure of the status of such laws in RI. The SECRET filming of sexual acts without the other party's knowledge is absolutely a serious crime.

[URL]https://law.justia.com/codes/rhode-island/2013/title-11/chapter-11-64/section-11-64-2[/URL]

[QUOTE]2013 Rhode Island General Laws
Title 11 - Criminal Offenses
Chapter 11-64 - Electronic Imaging Devices
Section 11-64-2 - Video voyeurism.

Universal Citation: RI Gen L 11-64-2 (2013)
11-64-2 Video voyeurism. (1) A person is guilty of video voyeurism when, for the purpose of sexual arousal, gratification or stimulation, such person:

(a) Uses, installs or permits the use or installation of an imaging device to capture, record, store or transmit visual images of the intimate areas of another person without that other person's knowledge and consent, and under circumstances in which that other person would have a reasonable expectation of privacy.

(b) Intentionally, and with knowledge that the image was obtained in violation of subsection (a), disseminates, publishes, or sells such image of the captured representation of another person or persons depicted in the representation or reproduction, and who did not consent to the dissemination, publication or sale.

(2) A person is also guilty of video voyeurism when that person, for the purpose of sexual arousal, gratification or stimulation, looks into an occupied dwelling or other building by use of an imaging device that provides images of the interior of a dwelling.

(3) A person found guilty of the crime of video voyeurism shall be imprisoned for not more than three (3) years in jail and/or fined not more than five thousand dollars ($5000). [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WillyO;3970738]I'm certainly not a legal mind here, but from what I understand, videoing without consent is illegal. A couple of those are clearly consensual while one appears to almost definitely not be.[/QUOTE]It definitely is. And so is uploading sexually explicit pictures and videos to the internet without the other party's consent, even if consent was given to TAKE the pics / video. It was signed into law in RI this past June.

[URL]https://www.wpri.com/politics/gov-raimondo-signs-revenge-porn-sextortion-bill-into-law/1220070371[/URL]

In general and until or unless it changes, our participation in paying money for sexual acts is all illegal activity in this country.

The law & society does not distinguish between those posting videos, pictures or having sex in any form regardless of consent, as to them we are all vile & creepy, to use your words.

Don't act self righteous as if your chit don't stink, it does buku big time, as does mine & everyone here.

Couple of things, there are a shit ton of ads posted with pictures that show the girls face, once she put herself out there then everything becomes fair game, pictures, reviews, videos etc, it's part of the territory regardless of her consent or if you like it or not.

This is a review site, what is appropriate to post is not up to you or me to say.

May I suggest go fuck some pussy & post about that instead of trying to inflict your morals on those that don't give a shit.

Have a nice day!

[QUOTE=MongerBob;3970501]You seriously don't understand the HUGE difference? Written descriptions are very general. You can't make a positive ID of someone based on that alone. There are likely hundreds of girls within any geographic area that might fit the general description of any of these providers. But having her FACE fully visible is a whole different story. I'll agree that in the case of Destiny, where she puts her face right there in her ad, it's kind of hard to say that her identity would be any more compromised by a video than it already is (however recording someone without their knowledge is a WHOLE different level of vile and creepy in and of itself). But some of these girls have never put their face in any of their ads. And let's also not forget that the simple existence of an ad for escort services isn't proof of any illegal activity taking place. But VIDEO of the act itself sure is. Come on, man, don't be obtuse about this. Anyone with common sense should be able to see there's a MASSIVE difference.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MongerBob;3970751]This is the same sort of logic where you ask "Well what was she wearing?" when you hear about a girl being raped. [/QUOTE]Nope. Not the same logic at all. Unless the rapist specifically asked if the woman would like to be raped before hand.

[QUOTE=MongerBob;3970751]Classic victim blaming. Whether they were naive to trust the clients or not doesn't make it right to violate their trust.[/QUOTE]Do you know for a fact that Mandy said not to post this video somewhere? How do we know she didn't tell this guy it was ok, but then later retracted after some backlash? (likely scenario).

[QUOTE=TwinSnow99;3971133]Nope. Not the same logic at all. Unless the rapist specifically asked if the woman would like to be raped before hand.

Do you know for a fact that Mandy said not to post this video somewhere? How do we know she didn't tell this guy it was ok, but then later retracted after some backlash? (likely scenario).[/QUOTE]Asking if taking video is ok isn't the same as asking if sharing it on the internet is ok. One does not imply permission to do the other. And yes, I know for a fact that Mandy does not give permission to post or share videos. Her policy on this is well known to anyone who has ever talked to her about it, and I've spoken to other members here who have seen her and made videos and confirmed that she's VERY clear on this matter. Why on Earth would she ever give permission to do that? Why do you think the guy who uploaded them was careful not to use her name or any terms in the video titles that would make them easy to find? Obviously he didn't want her to find out. Saying that's a "likely scenario" that she gave permission and took it back later is nonsensical. If you want to say that they shouldn't trust clients with video, fair enough, this incident is proof of that. But don't make disingenuous arguments to try and justify it.

[QUOTE=TwinSnow99;3971133]

Do you know for a fact that Mandy said not to post this video somewhere? How do we know she didn't tell this guy it was ok, but then later retracted after some backlash? (likely scenario).[/QUOTE]Well, I can confirm it for a fact, because I talked to her about it. That and I've known her for a long time and I know she never gives permission to do this.