Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationships

I have been using SA for awhile now. Sometimes for just a one time thing that did not materialize into anything more then that one time. I have had a couple of girls on a regular basis but gave one up she would hit me up all the time and I just got tired of it. A couple of others that I still see on a semi regular basis. Working on a few more. Now keep in mind what I've learned is they all negotiate on price the ones that don't. Ditch them. What I normally do is offer them something reasonable after they tell me what they want $. I tell them Ill offer you this and if we click we can talk about something different. Some are just there for the money others want more then that. I've been with all ages from 20 to 42. Been stood up a couple times and also seen women that did not look exactly their photos. I will post some of the successes at a later time. In my eyes its worth it. You have to dedicate a bit more time and you have to get to the point. But 90% of the girls are totally worth the time, effort and $.

[QUOTE=JohnnyAD;3041102]I recently signed up here and am wondering if you pay the monthly fee or is there a "free" version that allows you to communicate? I thought I saw somewhere that you get 10 free messages a month or something like that. Any newbie info would be great. Thanks![/QUOTE]You must be a paid member to send and read messages.

[QUOTE=Pivot2012;3041253]I have been using SA for awhile now. Sometimes for just a one time thing that did not materialize into anything more then that one time. I have had a couple of girls on a regular basis but gave one up she would hit me up all the time and I just got tired of it. A couple of others that I still see on a semi regular basis. Working on a few more. Now keep in mind what I've learned is they all negotiate on price the ones that don't. Ditch them. What I normally do is offer them something reasonable after they tell me what they want $. I tell them Ill offer you this and if we click we can talk about something different. Some are just there for the money others want more then that. I've been with all ages from 20 to 42. Been stood up a couple times and also seen women that did not look exactly their photos. I will post some of the successes at a later time. In my eyes its worth it. You have to dedicate a bit more time and you have to get to the point. But 90% of the girls are totally worth the time, effort and $.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Great review of the site from your perspective, glad you had success. Is there a way to pay for the service relatively anonymously? IE. Bitcoin, cash bought Visa cards, etc.

[QUOTE=BiteOfTheApple;3041814]You must be a paid member to send and read messages.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I've got like 30 messages waiting for me over there. I'm not looking for much, just a little safe TLC. .

I don't know about alternative payments.

[QUOTE=JohnnyAD;3041852]Thanks! Great review of the site from your perspective, glad you had success. Is there a way to pay for the service relatively anonymously? IE. Bitcoin, cash bought Visa cards, etc.[/QUOTE]

Afternoon, I thought I'd take the time to revisit this fine 20 year old. We've been visiting now for about 3 months. She can visit at hotels but that's not her preference, would prefer to hang out, chill, and let the most amazing fun and fantasies of any mans mind. I first met her at Starbucks (a nice open place), and then we preceded to the hotel. I immediately ask if she would mind taking a shower. (You never know, and a great time to offer this afternoons allowance for what I knew was going to be a fun fun time. She said she just bought something that would make my day, wow. She came out in sexy black bra, g string, and stripper heels, though not a stripper. Immediately turns around spreads her ass and bends over and looks at me "do your worst daddy". Did I mention this was the first time?! Since then, she really does mean your worst, no spitting on her face, but bbbjtcim and takes it all the way down without any reflex. LOVES when Your about to bust and you pull her down, or move up on that young, refreshing and sexy face and unleash it all on her face and will grab the sack to make sure every drop is out. She finest just like the Greek islands, she CRAVES them. Quite astonishing really for a young girl like herself to ask to go slow during Greek at first, but then wants you to be as rough as you would with the kitty. The only thing she won't do, but will if you like toys, is give you a prostate massage. She does have very long nails, so I do understand, but like I said, she will if you have the right utensil. Boy, there is nothing more intense, and I mean INTENSE, than her massaging with one hand, on her knees a bbbjtcim or letting loose wherever you desire. She is a KEEPER. Not sure if it's true or not, but she is seeing 3 other gentlemen. Said, she had to rebuild from a horrible relationship, and is trying to get back on her feet again. From all the hanging we've done, I've only seen green kind of drugs and nothing more unless you also count alcohol. She said she is looking for a few more friends to have fun with and see what men like. PM me if you'd like her email or phone. Keep cool in this ridiculous and a bit superfluous heat.

Abyss.

I was on SA as a premium for 9 months and never had good experience. The ones that I had actually met were only looking to drain you. Example, after a first dinner date, one of them texted me for 2 days straight asking to wire funds to pay for her phone that was going to get cut off. The other the next day wanted wire to pay for her car and gas so that she can "come see me".

For those that are doing it right, are you doing pay for play or set allowances per month / week and what does that look like? Some are looking for 2 k per week, which is above my pay grade.

Thanks in advanced for any feedback / tips. I might join again if there are some good words of wisdom / tips.

[QUOTE=IntoTheAbyss;3053369]Afternoon, I thought I'd take the time to revisit this fine 20 year old. We've been visiting now for about 3 months. She can visit at hotels but that's not her preference, would prefer to hang out, chill, and let the most amazing fun and fantasies of any mans mind. I first met her at Starbucks (a nice open place), and then we preceded to the hotel. I immediately ask if she would mind taking a shower. (You never know, and a great time to offer this afternoons allowance for what I knew was going to be a fun fun time. She said she just bought something that would make my day, wow. She came out in sexy black bra, g string, and stripper heels, though not a stripper. Immediately turns around spreads her ass and bends over and looks at me "do your worst daddy". Did I mention this was the first time?! Since then, she really does mean your worst, no spitting on her face, but bbbjtcim and takes it all the way down without any reflex. LOVES when Your about to bust and you pull her down, or move up on that young, refreshing and sexy face and unleash it all on her face and will grab the sack to make sure every drop is out. She finest just like the Greek islands, she CRAVES them. Quite astonishing really for a young girl like herself to ask to go slow during Greek at first, but then wants you to be as rough as you would with the kitty. The only thing she won't do, but will if you like toys, is give you a prostate massage. She does have very long nails, so I do understand, but like I said, she will if you have the right utensil. Boy, there is nothing more intense, and I mean INTENSE, than her massaging with one hand, on her knees a bbbjtcim or letting loose wherever you desire. She is a KEEPER. Not sure if it's true or not, but she is seeing 3 other gentlemen. Said, she had to rebuild from a horrible relationship, and is trying to get back on her feet again. From all the hanging we've done, I've only seen green kind of drugs and nothing more unless you also count alcohol. She said she is looking for a few more friends to have fun with and see what men like. PM me if you'd like her email or phone. Keep cool in this ridiculous and a bit superfluous heat.

Abyss.[/QUOTE]Man I'd love a naughty lady like her. I have a great one that is good to go for all you discuss too. Chick takes it anywhere and starts with "it's all of you daddy. " Let's swap their user names and compare?

[QUOTE=IntoTheAbyss;3053369]Afternoon, I thought I'd take the time to revisit this fine 20 year old. We've been visiting now for about 3 months. She can visit at hotels but that's not her preference, would prefer to hang out, chill, and let the most amazing fun and fantasies of any mans mind. I first met her at Starbucks (a nice open place), and then we preceded to the hotel. I immediately ask if she would mind taking a shower. (You never know, and a great time to offer this afternoons allowance for what I knew was going to be a fun fun time. She said she just bought something that would make my day, wow. She came out in sexy black bra, g string, and stripper heels, though not a stripper. Immediately turns around spreads her ass and bends over and looks at me "do your worst daddy". Did I mention this was the first time?! Since then, she really does mean your worst, no spitting on her face, but bbbjtcim and takes it all the way down without any reflex. LOVES when Your about to bust and you pull her down, or move up on that young, refreshing and sexy face and unleash it all on her face and will grab the sack to make sure every drop is out. She finest just like the Greek islands, she CRAVES them. Quite astonishing really for a young girl like herself to ask to go slow during Greek at first, but then wants you to be as rough as you would with the kitty. The only thing she won't do, but will if you like toys, is give you a prostate massage. She does have very long nails, so I do understand, but like I said, she will if you have the right utensil. Boy, there is nothing more intense, and I mean INTENSE, than her massaging with one hand, on her knees a bbbjtcim or letting loose wherever you desire. She is a KEEPER. Not sure if it's true or not, but she is seeing 3 other gentlemen. Said, she had to rebuild from a horrible relationship, and is trying to get back on her feet again. From all the hanging we've done, I've only seen green kind of drugs and nothing more unless you also count alcohol. She said she is looking for a few more friends to have fun with and see what men like. PM me if you'd like her email or phone. Keep cool in this ridiculous and a bit superfluous heat.

Abyss.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I've talked with her a few times, but she always seems too busy to meet.

I see this is a hotter topic on here than it used to be. Didn't realize there was a dedicated SB / SD thread on here, so I thought I would share my SA experiences with everyone.

I've been a premium member off and on for the past year. And each stint was a little different. The first time, I met a few different ladies. One of them came over a few times, never asked for money. We just hung out and had fun. And by "fun", I mean we fucked. Second one came over, spent the night, never asked for money. The third one, I gave a hundred to. We would hang out and have fun, but she was certainly needing money each time.

Second stint I was on there, I met a few more. One I gave a couple hundred to the first time and we dated for a few months after that. I would buy her gifts every now and then, but we pretty much saw each other three times a week for small gifts every now and then. I couldn't resist a 20 year old with huge boobs. LOL. That got old after a few months as it turned into a "real relationship". The others wanted a hundred or so each time.

Third and most recent stint on there. I've met two. One has came over and hung out a couple of times for nothing. Would love to have fun with her, but she wants to get to know each other better and she is a horrible communicator, so getting to know each other is rather difficult. This has been going on for about 2 weeks. Still not mention of money from her. She's 20, works, and goes to school. The other likes two hundred each time we see each other. She is a hot blonde for being 35 years old. She looks 25 ish in her pictures, but she does look her age in person.

It's been an interesting experience. I still have one that I met during my first stint that I like to see from time to time. She is always busy with work and boyfriend, so it's usually only a couple times a month. However. She takes a hundred, she's under 25, she's cute, and she is physically fit.

Before anyone asks, I'm not going to give out usernames or phone numbers, because the majority of those that I've met via SA are not looking for a ton of guys to look them up. Several are not active on there anymore or log in every couple of weeks. My advice is to stay within a reasonable age range, start your offer low, and make it clear that you're not looking for give someone a monthly allowance. You have no idea who these women are and you don't know who is going to take that monthly allowance and never see you a second time.

[QUOTE=Tony317;3055197]I see this is a hotter topic on here than it used to be. Didn't realize there was a dedicated SB / SD thread on here, so I thought I would share my SA experiences with everyone.

I've been a premium member off and on for the past year. And each stint was a little different. The first time, I met a few different ladies. One of them came over a few times, never asked for money. We just hung out and had fun. And by "fun", I mean we fucked. Second one came over, spent the night, never asked for money. The third one, I gave a hundred to. We would hang out and have fun, but she was certainly needing money each time.

Second stint I was on there, I met a few more. One I gave a couple hundred to the first time and we dated for a few months after that. I would buy her gifts every now and then, but we pretty much saw each other three times a week for small gifts every now and then. I couldn't resist a 20 year old with huge boobs. LOL. That got old after a few months as it turned into a "real relationship". The others wanted a hundred or so each time.

Third and most recent stint on there. I've met two. One has came over and hung out a couple of times for nothing. Would love to have fun with her, but she wants to get to know each other better and she is a horrible communicator, so getting to know each other is rather difficult. This has been going on for about 2 weeks. Still not mention of money from her. She's 20, works, and goes to school. The other likes two hundred each time we see each other. She is a hot blonde for being 35 years old. She looks 25 ish in her pictures, but she does look her age in person.

It's been an interesting experience. I still have one that I met during my first stint that I like to see from time to time. She is always busy with work and boyfriend, so it's usually only a couple times a month. However. She takes a hundred, she's under 25, she's cute, and she is physically fit.

Before anyone asks, I'm not going to give out usernames or phone numbers, because the majority of those that I've met via SA are not looking for a ton of guys to look them up. Several are not active on there anymore or log in every couple of weeks. My advice is to stay within a reasonable age range, start your offer low, and make it clear that you're not looking for give someone a monthly allowance. You have no idea who these women are and you don't know who is going to take that monthly allowance and never see you a second time.[/QUOTE]Good advice offered by Tony.

I have also been doing SA on occasions for almost a year now, but currently taking a break. Like Tony mentioned, some ladies on SA will go right into the bed, and others are delusional enough to start with asking for allowance before even meeting. My experience is that if they begin the interaction with some tragic story or urgent need for $, you should turn around and run away as quickly as possible. Those kind are not babies, but con artists, only wanting to attempt to extract money from your wallet and nothing more. I was almost sucked into a very convincing ruse, but quickly understood what was truly taking place and walked away in the right moment.

Asking for any allowance upfront or even some form of a guarantee amount just to meet is another red flag. Some read blogs online and assume that men will give them thousands of dollars per month or date to just spend time with them, but again, these are crazy birds that you should certainly avoid. I find that offering dinners, gifts, pampering and even perhaps something more per date is a much better situation to control. Never agree to a monthly allowance or long-term, but offer to spoil and see how things progress. The best PT's just meet first with no expectations beyond to see if there is some chemistry, then if they are interested, it is game on.

Do svidaniya.

Boris.

[QUOTE=JustZDragon;3053420]I was on SA as a premium for 9 months and never had good experience. The ones that I had actually met were only looking to drain you. Example, after a first dinner date, one of them texted me for 2 days straight asking to wire funds to pay for her phone that was going to get cut off. The other the next day wanted wire to pay for her car and gas so that she can "come see me".

For those that are doing it right, are you doing pay for play or set allowances per month / week and what does that look like? Some are looking for 2 k per week, which is above my pay grade.

Thanks in advanced for any feedback / tips. I might join again if there are some good words of wisdom / tips.[/QUOTE]JustZDragon, I suspect that your frustrations arise from you being too nice and accommodating. It would explain your lack of success because for these younger ladies, they confuse this kindness with being a weakness that they then try to use it to manipulate you for dollars.

Never, ever start an initial m&g with dinner or lunch (especially lunch). Offer to meet for a beverage and maybe an appetizer to get to know one another and see if you are a match. Select a location where you never frequent to grasp what their true personality and intentions will be. Take control from the very first moment, arrive with a good energy and smile. Be firm yet polite and fun, make jokes as humor goes a long way with the best prospects. It is important to establish quickly that you are charming but still totally in charge and that is what she will expect. If the potential then agrees, continue forward.

Always offer to spoil them, or maybe allowance per date as it keeps them properly motivated to continue to show interest and attend to you. You are busy, so dates happen when you are both available. Never, ever give allowance per week or month and they will inevitably become lazy and just expect the money. Also, it is much easier to end things when there is not an regular commitment. If you pay weekly or monthly, they will demand you to keep paying another few weeks or month if you choose to end it, and without any other reason or offer to see you more.

$2 k per week? These are not true SB's, but dreamers who read online articles about high end SB's in Manhattan getting this amount. Unless they are supermodels with amazing personalities, no gag reflex and always at your beckon call, this should never become a possibility. Laugh it off and move on because you must remember that you, the SD, must always sets the terms and parameters, not the other way around.

You bring the spoiling in the manner you are comfortable with, then if the SB's agrees, they must bring the sugar, period.

Do svidaniya.

Boris.

[QUOTE=BorisYaz;3056166]JustZDragon, I suspect that your frustrations arise from you being too nice and accommodating. It would explain your lack of success because for these younger ladies, they confuse this kindness with being a weakness that they then try to use it to manipulate you for dollars.

Never, ever start an initial m&g with dinner or lunch (especially lunch). Offer to meet for a beverage and maybe an appetizer to get to know one another and see if you are a match. Select a location where you never frequent to grasp what their true personality and intentions will be. Take control from the very first moment, arrive with a good energy and smile. Be firm yet polite and fun, make jokes as humor goes a long way with the best prospects. It is important to establish quickly that you are charming but still totally in charge and that is what she will expect. If the potential then agrees, continue forward.

Always offer to spoil them, or maybe allowance per date as it keeps them properly motivated to continue to show interest and attend to you. You are busy, so dates happen when you are both available. Never, ever give allowance per week or month and they will inevitably become lazy and just expect the money. Also, it is much easier to end things when there is not an regular commitment. If you pay weekly or monthly, they will demand you to keep paying another few weeks or month if you choose to end it, and without any other reason or offer to see you more.

$2 k per week? These are not true SB's, but dreamers who read online articles about high end SB's in Manhattan getting this amount. Unless they are supermodels with amazing personalities, no gag reflex and always at your beckon call, this should never become a possibility. Laugh it off and move on because you must remember that you, the SD, must always sets the terms and parameters, not the other way around.

You bring the spoiling in the manner you are comfortable with, then if the SB's agrees, they must bring the sugar, period.

Do svidaniya.

Boris.[/QUOTE]Lots of good advice here. I definitely reiterate what the others have said. Keep the first meeting simple, coffee or a drink and no more. Definitely no money for meet and greet. Be nice and charming, but don't fawn over them too much. Keep them trying to impress you, not the other way around.

Like Boris said, there are a few that read too many magazines and think they can find a guy to give them thousands a week They are pretty easy to detect, and I normally just ignore their profiles or messages. However, recently I was kind of bored with the SA game so I thought I would start chatting up a few of these gals that were asking for a "substantial" amount. I played along, acting like that would be no problem if I found the right woman. I had 3 meet and greets with 3 super hot ladies. Afterwards, when it came time to talk business, I said $250 per meet and the hottest one of the bunch that initially wanted 2 k per meet happily accepted. And to make it even better, she does quickies in the car for free if I throw her a $250 hotel date every couple weeks.

That one is definitely the exception. But if you stay in control and you have a little game with the ladies, there are some gems to be found on there.

Thanks for the guidance and feedback Boris. I might try SA again and keep the board updated on my progress.

[QUOTE=BorisYaz;3056166]JustZDragon, I suspect that your frustrations arise from you being too nice and accommodating. It would explain your lack of success because for these younger ladies, they confuse this kindness with being a weakness that they then try to use it to manipulate you for dollars.

Never, ever start an initial m&g with dinner or lunch (especially lunch). Offer to meet for a beverage and maybe an appetizer to get to know one another and see if you are a match. Select a location where you never frequent to grasp what their true personality and intentions will be. Take control from the very first moment, arrive with a good energy and smile. Be firm yet polite and fun, make jokes as humor goes a long way with the best prospects. It is important to establish quickly that you are charming but still totally in charge and that is what she will expect. If the potential then agrees, continue forward.

Always offer to spoil them, or maybe allowance per date as it keeps them properly motivated to continue to show interest and attend to you. You are busy, so dates happen when you are both available. Never, ever give allowance per week or month and they will inevitably become lazy and just expect the money. Also, it is much easier to end things when there is not an regular commitment. If you pay weekly or monthly, they will demand you to keep paying another few weeks or month if you choose to end it, and without any other reason or offer to see you more.

$2 k per week? These are not true SB's, but dreamers who read online articles about high end SB's in Manhattan getting this amount. Unless they are supermodels with amazing personalities, no gag reflex and always at your beckon call, this should never become a possibility. Laugh it off and move on because you must remember that you, the SD, must always sets the terms and parameters, not the other way around.

You bring the spoiling in the manner you are comfortable with, then if the SB's agrees, they must bring the sugar, period.

Do svidaniya.

Boris.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JaxSon07;3056881].... recently I was kind of bored with the SA game so I thought I would start chatting up a few of these gals that were asking for a "substantial" amount. I played along, acting like that would be no problem if I found the right woman. I had 3 meet and greets with 3 super hot ladies. Afterwards, when it came time to talk business, I said $250 per meet and the hottest one of the bunch that initially wanted 2 k per meet happily accepted. And to make it even better, she does quickies in the car for free if I throw her a $250 hotel date every couple weeks..[/QUOTE]That is quite impressive, JaxSon. Those SB's asking for substantial are the ones I would often avoid, but now I may make an effort to try the same method.

Do svidaniya.

Boris.