Keeping the $$ reasonable
I recently reached out to who I thought was a good provider with good reasonable rates. Tori Love. She started out as a dancer / ho on the block then went on her own. She appeared on the BP scene and was going for 100 hhr then it went to 120 which is still within the going rates. Not too long ago she jack's it up to 140 hhr but says she'll do her "old friends" for 120. Now this chick is cranking her rates up to 160 hhr. She knows me and I've been a promoter to this point as some of you know, so I say well can you cut some slack to a guy that helped you out in the beginning with positive, comments and reviews. She said no, the rate is 160 now. I'm sorry but 1. She's a 120 dolla ho. That's never going to change. Thats what she's worth. Cute but not beautiful, GFE kinda lacs the personal touch, tiny frame, tiny tits, small little ass takes the "D" nicely. 2. Whoever is paying those outrageous rates is seriously hurting this game. All 100 Dolla hoes are going to follow suit. Next thing you know 160 will be the going rate. 3. This is a business and there's such things as marketing costs. You gotta give a little something to those that promote you. Well this is one guy that won't see her or review her anymore until she gets some sense.
The next thing is service. I've been calling around some of these new girls that are popping up on BP and they are all telling the same story. They want 140 and 150 for hhr and no kissing or caressing, BBBJ or DFK. They all say yes to DATY of course, but that's subject to in person inspection and all around guy feeling. Anyway that's basic GFE in my book. It's what every ho should do for their clients as part of the basic experience and should be between 80 & 120 for the hhr depending on what her reviews and general feedback looks like as well as level of service.
I know I'm one man and one voice amongst millions out there. Don't give into high rates. Happy hobbying and stay safe.
Shooter Out!
Former Stripper Turned Pro
I don't use Backpage to find companions. However, occasionally a stripper I know turns pro and advertises on Backpage. I've had several excellent experiences with the young woman in the link below. Tonight marks the fourth ad she has posted on BP. Try her out before the business turns her mean and worn. Last time we were together she was tight and clean. That may have changed. She will try to get upscale prices if she can and for the moment she may be worth it. For short sessions, a donation of one Ben will be enough. She relapsed recently and that is why she turned pro I think. Her pictures have been altered. She has tats. [URL]http://baltimore.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/410-988-3606/28777222[/URL].
Are you able to say what club?
[QUOTE=ClubScout;3653891]I don't use Backpage to find companions. However, occasionally a stripper I know turns pro and advertises on Backpage. I've had several excellent experiences with the young woman in the link below. Tonight marks the fourth ad she has posted on BP. Try her out before the business turns her mean and worn. Last time we were together she was tight and clean. That may have changed. She will try to get upscale prices if she can and for the moment she may be worth it. For short sessions, a donation of one Ben will be enough. She relapsed recently and that is why she turned pro I think. Her pictures have been altered. She has tats. [URL]http://baltimore.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/410-988-3606/28777222[/URL].[/QUOTE]Looks good but I certainly can't see who she is with those pics. Are you able to say which 'firm' she was associated with?
Sasha The 4th Time Was The Charm!
I Caught up with Sasha again! This time in Columbia and I'm really glad I did. This is my 4th time seeing her and it gets better each time. The drive was about 25 minutes but I'd travel even 45 minutes to sample her charms.
I get in the same room as her. Alone, I put on my warm up song and the sparks begin to fly with cuddling, (she has a small and very soft booty & kisses me all over my chest) a feathery HJ that almost instantly had Jr at attention and then a sweet and succulent CBJ that I had to beg-off of and then I peeped her deep for about 10-12 minutes. She's very small so for a change up I tested her out with her riding me (CG) and it was OK but that's not my best position with her or it seems like with anyone else.
After a few minutes of her in the cowgirl position I requested her in the K9/ Knees Together position and once again we smurfed it out as took my time stroking, circling, bouncing in and exploring her sweet, gripping & very gooey love tunnel. To the beat, until I simply could handle it no longer. Seems like she really enjoyed it also as she creamed all over my piece. I built myself up to a tremendous but controlled explosion and rolled off her laughing. That pussy was out of this world! I still had time to bask in the afterglow for about 5 minutes and then I got dressed and vacated the scene. WOW! I was on cloud 9 for the next few hours.
Of course I'll see her again for a wonderful non-GFE time as she's becoming my fav! At only $120 for a HH of her time, if you can handle a good looking, small & sweet young girl in a non-GFE situation you really should give her a call. You'll be glad you did.
Here's her last ad on BP and her number ends in 8826.
[URL]http://baltimore.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/915-538-8826/29222742[/URL]
AVOID Stripper Turned Pro
Maybe this post should be on the Rip Off Reports thread. But I figured it would be better to put it here if it prevents someone else falling for the scam. We met in a parking lot. She said she was sick and needed some cash first. I took a chance. Little head was doing the thinkin. She is cute and there was a good review of her. So I fell for it. I drove off and observed from a distance as a male (her pimp?) got in her car and she drove off. Never returned of course. I learned later she was doing incalls at a low end Woodlawn motel for the rest of the night. Lesson learned. YMMV but my advice is AVOID.
How to Avoid Sting Operation?
Took a huge risk the other day by going to a hotel. These meetups are much more worth it than simply going to an AMP. However, I know it's only a matter of time before I've had my run-in with the law. So it seems like the biggest threat is sting operation. So I was wondering if you guys have any ideas on how to I'd those and what are some red flags all the way until the step to talking with the undercover cop? Because it seems like sting operations are always on-going, so I figure best learn how to stay safe then have my name published in the local newspaper.
How to Avoid Sting Operation -- Some Thoughts
[QUOTE=NewB2221;3659385]Took a huge risk the other day by going to a hotel. These meetups are much more worth it than simply going to an AMP. However, I know it's only a matter of time before I've had my run-in with the law. So it seems like the biggest threat is sting operation. So I was wondering if you guys have any ideas on how to I'd those and what are some red flags all the way until the step to talking with the undercover cop? Because it seems like sting operations are always on-going, so I figure best learn how to stay safe then have my name published in the local newspaper.[/QUOTE]The only advice I can give you is to never ask for more than a massage. NEVER NEVER NEVER hint, suggest or even imply. Massage is legal, most other things are not. If after you disrobe, the woman does more, touches you in certain places, then you can feel safe. But, if she says what about half and half for $160, just decline and walk away. I suspect that any real working girl will take your money and do more, but NEVER NEVER NEVER ask for or even reply to any words or suggestions for more! Once you do, you are dead meat and it is lock-up time.
Pics are frequently inaccurate
[QUOTE=SuperJimmy;3660377]IMHO, the pics from NVA, DC and Southern Md were always a lot better than Baltimore but B-Town always had quit a few lookers. Now it seems like the lookers are few and far inbetween. Perhaps the pics are not accurate?[/QUOTE]From my experience mongering in the DC area, pics are inaccurate a good chunk of the time for non-Asian providers and almost always for the Asian crapshoot ads. I've lost count of how many times over the years I've done a Google image or TinEye search on BP ad photos and found out they were photos of porn stars or models, often born and / or working in other countries.
History Research and LE check
First, Uncles go for low hanging fruit, they don't work hard for the more cagey guys. They aren't trying to shut down the Monger trade, they are looking to bag some bodies for the cameras.
SO, they don't bother with elaborate long term scams generally. If the girl has history and lots of ads in different cities and over time, even without reviews, probably legit.
If the pictures are nudes, esp with easy to I'd tattoos and the girl at the door is her, well, cop ladies don't want to actually show their coochie.
DO NOT answer any questions, even as a mumble or shrug or 'sure' because any assent to her proposition 'here for the GFE?' or "want a date?" or any slang is agreeing to a transaction.
Massage is not safe, it is still touching, and there is massage without a licence. Strip Tease is legal. Ask for Strip Tease.
Also, LE check gropes don't work for ladies, male cops can do this. But NO lady cop will let mongers touch her. So silently go in for a hug (that isn't assault) and if she won't allow a hug, that is a very bad sign- could be a cop, or could be a frigid bad attitude Ho, neither is a good thing.
This Has to be a Sting, Right?
[QUOTE=DorkDangler;3661191]First, Uncles go for low hanging fruit, they don't work hard for the more cagey guys. They aren't trying to shut down the Monger trade, they are looking to bag some bodies for the cameras.
SO, they don't bother with elaborate long term scams generally. If the girl has history and lots of ads in different cities and over time, even without reviews, probably legit.
If the pictures are nudes, esp with easy to I'd tattoos and the girl at the door is her, well, cop ladies don't want to actually show their coochie.
DO NOT answer any questions, even as a mumble or shrug or 'sure' because any assent to her proposition 'here for the GFE?' or "want a date?" or any slang is agreeing to a transaction.
Massage is not safe, it is still touching, and there is massage without a licence. Strip Tease is legal. Ask for Strip Tease.
Also, LE check gropes don't work for ladies, male cops can do this. But NO lady cop will let mongers touch her. So silently go in for a hug (that isn't assault) and if she won't allow a hug, that is a very bad sign- could be a cop, or could be a frigid bad attitude Ho, neither is a good thing.[/QUOTE][URL]http://baltimore.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/443-366-0494/29335522[/URL]
Honestly, from everything I researched, if you are within talking distance to someone, doesn't matter if you check, it's too late. So, I am now trying to see if there are ways to spot them just from the ads. And today, as I was looking through the pics.
If anything scream bloody sting to me, that Ad HAS TO BE IT.
2 fake pics taken from the internet with 2 generic pic that I guess google doesn't bother to catalog. A phone number that only returns search result to attorney's office. Either that's a bloody sting operation or someone is playing a game on that poor lawyer.
Just want to check with fellow monger here to see whether my instinct is spot on.