[QUOTE=CrestWood87;5569445]You ment to say that they are charging you. Kaina, Ease, Lemon, Holiday, Lu, PZ, and Adore I still only pay. 4.[/QUOTE]And many more!
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[QUOTE=CrestWood87;5569445]You ment to say that they are charging you. Kaina, Ease, Lemon, Holiday, Lu, PZ, and Adore I still only pay. 4.[/QUOTE]And many more!
[QUOTE=TheWiseacre;5569184]Already happening and the market easily supports that price point.
Hoping for inflation to not affect the massage business is wishful thinking.[/QUOTE]There is no such thing as inflation in the scene. Stop sobbing up to this overpriced scene in Atlanta. Giving them the excuse to justify it. Venture out of state and come back. What is more expensive for them? Condoms and lube? Only targeting noobs with those prices. I was at a spot the other day. Lady asking me $. 40 for a HJ LOL. Bruh you serious? What is so drastically expensive for them to complete the deed? They just know they've pushed the buttons on a few noobs to garnish more and now want to charge more.
As I've shared in another thread. In California there are Asians whom do BBFS CIP for a total of $$. 6 HR. 40 extra for BBFS CIP MSOG. Can get independent Asians as well. On top of that the Asians are hot. Here in ATL got mamasan looking ones asking absurd amounts for FS just like hot ones in other states.
NYC has an Asian scene. The cost of living is way higher than Georgia. Absurd taxes etc in NYC. They don't charge anything remotely close to what is charged in ATL for a HJ, CBJ and FS. California's cost of living is way higher. They don't charge absurd rates. In Cali you can get FS with the house fee for under $. 60 with gorgeous Asians. FS in Cali in my experience has never gone over $. 60 and they're willing to accept less. If they do a HJ its 20-40 bucks. BBBJ CIM catch not swallow max 80. Atl ones are trying to charge $. 50 for a HJ. Sad some will in fact pay that. Older Asians that look good in other states will charge 80 for FS and do BBBJ CIP CIM on top of the house fee which is 40-60. Just saying over priced here.
We the clients dictate what they charge by what we collectively pay. Its not the other way around lads. It's not about the stock market or crypto market. No relation between any of that and extras. Some go to work, run businesses and have investments. We're the ones bringing in the flow when we want some fun haha. There is no "the market supports" a drastic increase in price when a ton of people are losing their jobs, the stock market is bound to implode etc. Everything is going south as a collective. Yet you believe the AMP scene should keep increasing rates as if that helps them make more money. It doesn't. The main audience would be noobs they pressure to pay extravagant amounts. I had one at another spot who just kept pressing for an absurd amount when I said no. Told her I'll pay you this for this activity or you get 0 dollars. Went the zero route LOL.
I'll disclose what I've learned over the years. Some of these Asians are coming from out of state and coming here to the ATL scene now because they can charge way more than what they do in their home state. It's also not their money as well. "It's not our money". Who knows what percentage they get to keep. Who is taking what cut etc. Learned quite a few details from a mamasan who was nice. This one was a beaut for her age.
If they were focused on making more money they'd decrease their price to bring in more clients thus making more money LOL. There business model is the opposite. Charge their customer base more because insert bs excuse.
[QUOTE=Jrody1;5570195]There is no "the market supports" a drastic increase in price when a ton of people are losing their jobs, the stock market is bound to implode etc. Everything is going south as a collective. Yet you believe the AMP scene should keep increasing rates as if that helps them make more money. It doesn't. The main audience would be noobs they pressure to pay extravagant amounts.[/QUOTE]Every single person in business should embrace rates that makes them more money. I see this not only as a consumer but as a provider of services to my clients. This attitude is not predatory, ugly, or inflammatory. It is merely maximizing my ROI no matter the side I am on in the transaction. Regrettably, my ROI and IRR are different than the guy sitting next to me at a jack shack. But luckily for me, I am confident in my expectations so I don't lose sleep over what his tip is vs. Mine.
The market supports $70 an hour for a massage, $50 per hour for HH, and above $40 for HE. It does because literally hundreds of clients every day in metro ATL are paying those rates. Would it shock you to know that there are many many mongers who tip $100+ for HE and not even UTC? Wake up bro. The market outside this forum is significant and they are willing to tip very well for what's being offered here.
Those of us who post here on this website are a tiny fraction of the market. All of us banding together and boycotting AMPs in metro Atlanta would not shift the market in a noticeable fashion. Us banding together and walking out on a request for $40 for a handjob from someone not your own hand is not going to change jack shit. If you think the market for HE is frothy and overpriced, have fun waiting this one out. Yes the markets are WAY different in NYC and LA for a variety of reasons. They're also way different in Colombia, the D. Are. , Thailand, etc. You're in Atlanta and you want a woman to jerk your dong? You're likely not getting that done at an AMP for less than $40. That's the market you're in. You can be mad that you're a Pepsi drinker in a Coke town, but it's not going to get you anywhere.
I'm not advocating an increase in price, I'm saying it's already increasing whether you think it's fair or not. It is. And overall, inflation in the US is noticeable and measurable. $50 in USD in 2017 is now $56. If you're not paying more than you were four years ago either in tips or massage, then your provider is getting less. You think she doesn't know this?
You walk out on a $40 request for a handjob yet some other guy will tip $300 to the same woman for HE. The other guy is a satisfied (idiot?) customer and you're an unsatisfied (genius?) customer. You're mad that he's happy for his ROI because you disagree with the value proposition. Fair enough, but anecdotal and not representative of the wider market at all.
Expecting "we the clients" to act collectively. Is not how it works. The market for HE is dynamic, not static. Providers respond proactively to their clients every day--it's not a fixed price menu where you get whatever you want for whatever the menu says. Some clients get WAY MORE for their $50 tip than some other asshole who gets ZERO OTC from the same provider. Some shops cater to the Groupon crowd and some cater to an entirely different market. Sometimes a parlor has a range of girls providing a range of extras at a range of donation. But you knew this already.
You're not the only one on this forum who has learned quite a bit of details over the years.
[QUOTE=Jrody1;5570195]There is no such thing as inflation in the scene. Stop sobbing up to this overpriced scene in Atlanta. Giving them the excuse to justify it. Venture out of state and come back. What is more expensive for them? Condoms and lube? Only targeting noobs with those prices. I was at a spot the other day. Lady asking me $. 40 for a HJ LOL. Bruh you serious? What is so drastically expensive for them to complete the deed? They just know they've pushed the buttons on a few noobs to garnish more and now want to charge more.
As I've shared in another thread. In California there are Asians whom do BBFS CIP for a total of $$. 6 HR. 40 extra for BBFS CIP MSOG. Can get independent Asians as well. On top of that the Asians are hot. Here in ATL got mamasan looking ones asking absurd amounts for FS just like hot ones in other states.
NYC has an Asian scene. The cost of living is way higher than Georgia. Absurd taxes etc in NYC. They don't charge anything remotely close to what is charged in ATL for a HJ, CBJ and FS. California's cost of living is way higher. They don't charge absurd rates. In Cali you can get FS with the house fee for under $. 60 with gorgeous Asians. FS in Cali in my experience has never gone over $. 60 and they're willing to accept less. If they do a HJ its 20-40 bucks. BBBJ CIM catch not swallow max 80. Atl ones are trying to charge $. 50 for a HJ. Sad some will in fact pay that. Older Asians that look good in other states will charge 80 for FS and do BBBJ CIP CIM on top of the house fee which is 40-60. Just saying over priced here.
We the clients dictate what they charge by what we collectively pay. Its not the other way around lads. It's not about the stock market or crypto market. No relation between any of that and extras. Some go to work, run businesses and have investments. We're the ones bringing in the flow when we want some fun haha. There is no "the market supports" a drastic increase in price when a ton of people are losing their jobs, the stock market is bound to implode etc. Everything is going south as a collective. Yet you believe the AMP scene should keep increasing rates as if that helps them make more money. It doesn't. The main audience would be noobs they pressure to pay extravagant amounts. I had one at another spot who just kept pressing for an absurd amount when I said no. Told her I'll pay you this for this activity or you get 0 dollars. Went the zero route LOL.
I'll disclose what I've learned over the years. Some of these Asians are coming from out of state and coming here to the ATL scene now because they can charge way more than what they do in their home state. It's also not their money as well. "It's not our money". Who knows what percentage they get to keep. Who is taking what cut etc. Learned quite a few details from a mamasan who was nice. This one was a beaut for her age.
If they were focused on making more money they'd decrease their price to bring in more clients thus making more money LOL. There business model is the opposite. Charge their customer base more because insert bs excuse.[/QUOTE]Could you please clear your inbox?
[QUOTE=Skip15;5569258]Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]It's clear.
[QUOTE=Bmc398;5569833]Is it true they were busted? 100% legit now? I went in a few weeks ago and nobody came to door in 10 minutes.
Anybody know where Angela from there might have popped up at?[/QUOTE]Care Alpharetta, goes by Yuyu or Yoyo something along that line.
[QUOTE=LongTimer86;5571695]Care Alpharetta, goes by Yuyu or Yoyo something along that line.[/QUOTE]I know Angela at Care and YuYu or YoYo at Care, and they are not the same person.
Any suggestions for couples massage?
[QUOTE=Jrody1;5570195]There is no such thing as inflation in the scene. Stop sobbing up to this overpriced scene in Atlanta. Giving them the excuse to justify it. Venture out of state and come back. What is more expensive for them? Condoms and lube? Only targeting noobs with those prices. I was at a spot the other day. Lady asking me $. 40 for a HJ LOL. Bruh you serious? What is so drastically expensive for them to complete the deed? They just know they've pushed the buttons on a few noobs to garnish more and now want to charge more.
As I've shared in another thread. In California there are Asians whom do BBFS CIP for a total of $$. 6 HR. 40 extra for BBFS CIP MSOG. Can get independent Asians as well. On top of that the Asians are hot. Here in ATL got mamasan looking ones asking absurd amounts for FS just like hot ones in other states.
NYC has an Asian scene. The cost of living is way higher than Georgia. Absurd taxes etc in NYC. They don't charge anything remotely close to what is charged in ATL for a HJ, CBJ and FS. California's cost of living is way higher. They don't charge absurd rates. In Cali you can get FS with the house fee for under $. 60 with gorgeous Asians. FS in Cali in my experience has never gone over $. 60 and they're willing to accept less. If they do a HJ its 20-40 bucks. BBBJ CIM catch not swallow max 80. Atl ones are trying to charge $. 50 for a HJ. Sad some will in fact pay that. Older Asians that look good in other states will charge 80 for FS and do BBBJ CIP CIM on top of the house fee which is 40-60. Just saying over priced here.
We the clients dictate what they charge by what we collectively pay. Its not the other way around lads. It's not about the stock market or crypto market. No relation between any of that and extras. Some go to work, run businesses and have investments. We're the ones bringing in the flow when we want some fun haha. There is no "the market supports" a drastic increase in price when a ton of people are losing their jobs, the stock market is bound to implode etc. Everything is going south as a collective. Yet you believe the AMP scene should keep increasing rates as if that helps them make more money. It doesn't. The main audience would be noobs they pressure to pay extravagant amounts. I had one at another spot who just kept pressing for an absurd amount when I said no. Told her I'll pay you this for this activity or you get 0 dollars. Went the zero route LOL.
I'll disclose what I've learned over the years. Some of these Asians are coming from out of state and coming here to the ATL scene now because they can charge way more than what they do in their home state. It's also not their money as well. "It's not our money". Who knows what percentage they get to keep. Who is taking what cut etc. Learned quite a few details from a mamasan who was nice. This one was a beaut for her age.
If they were focused on making more money they'd decrease their price to bring in more clients thus making more money LOL. There business model is the opposite. Charge their customer base more because insert bs excuse.[/QUOTE]Hey man. Wanted to get info about the scene in Cali, and where? Clear your inbox and send me a message. Thanks man!
[QUOTE=Jrody1;5570195]In Cali you can get FS with the house fee for under $. 60 with gorgeous Asians. FS in Cali in my experience has never gone over $. 60 and they're willing to accept less. If they do a HJ its 20-40 bucks. BBBJ CIM catch not swallow max 80.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IrishDannyBoy;5572419]Hey man. Wanted to get info about the scene in Cali, and where? Clear your inbox and send me a message. Thanks man![/QUOTE]Hey, if you find out where the gorgeous Asians do FS for under 160 house fee included, please let me know. Thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=Runon99;5572828]Hey, if you find out where the gorgeous Asians do FS for under 160 house fee included, please let me know. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I'll leave that to the other Cali forums. Some mentioned there are the ones I had that experience. I won't disclose what city etch I go to when going to Cali. I guess one other to mention is Chicago. Chicago also has a hot tub of Asians and the Asian scene is awesome there. Go to any bar or club. A good club that always has Asians is Spybar in Chicago. There are rave parties etc. hosted there. If your game is strong you can pick up some nice Asians that are slim. I have pics of some. Will I share? No as they're not independent providers. I can distort the pics etc. but no. To revealing of certain things.
[QUOTE=Atlanta3651;5572370]Any suggestions for couples massage?[/QUOTE]Massage Now, ask for Jerry (aka Sylas) and Jamie.
[QUOTE=TheWiseacre;5570312]Every single person in business should embrace rates that makes them more money. I see this not only as a consumer but as a provider of services to my clients. This attitude is not predatory, ugly, or inflammatory. It is merely maximizing my ROI no matter the side I am on in the transaction. Regrettably, my ROI and IRR are different than the guy sitting next to me at a jack shack. But luckily for me, I am confident in my expectations so I don't lose sleep over what his tip is vs. Mine.
The market supports $70 an hour for a massage, $50 per hour for HH, and above $40 for HE. It does because literally hundreds of clients every day in metro ATL are paying those rates. Would it shock you to know that there are many many mongers who tip $100+ for HE and not even UTC? Wake up bro. The market outside this forum is significant and they are willing to tip very well for what's being offered here.
Those of us who post here on this website are a tiny fraction of the market. All of us banding together and boycotting AMPs in metro Atlanta would not shift the market in a noticeable fashion. Us banding together and walking out on a request for $40 for a handjob from someone not your own hand is not going to change jack shit. If you think the market for HE is frothy and overpriced, have fun waiting this one out. Yes the markets are WAY different in NYC and LA for a variety of reasons. They're also way different in Colombia, the D. Are. , Thailand, etc. You're in Atlanta and you want a woman to jerk your dong? You're likely not getting that done at an AMP for less than $40. That's the market you're in. You can be mad that you're a Pepsi drinker in a Coke town, but it's not going to get you anywhere..[/QUOTE]Outside of my job I buy and sell in the guitar market, imported and custom. Prices have gone up about 30 percent in the last 6 months, inflation is a sucky thing, but we were warned when the trillions were going out under both presidents, not taking sides. We were warned the value of the dollar would decrease as you keep printing money. So if these girls are paying more for rent, clothes, food, makeup expect them to pass on the cost. You should expect house fees to go up to at least 80 dollars at almost every place. These girls also see all the companies that have raised their wages by 50 percent to get workers, they know their money. Same goes for negotiating tips, girls in Atlanta are savvy, they are going to want bigger tips. I'm not saying all markets are having this big increase but to be honest girls don't like Atlanta, they'd rather be in NY or Cali. Take time and talk to you massage girl you will learn more than you want about their lives and the business, you will definitely look at it differently.
Hit up these two places recently based on reports on this forum. My Fav at Kaina is out for a while (I was told) so Monica introduced me to CiCi I think. Slim, good looking behind the mask, a nice B cup. Good soft touch massage and finish was very skillful. The only thing is limited UTC top and bottom. Can get my hand cupping the nice breasts but that's about it. She didn't like nip action so that's a no for me. Nice relaxing finish. Standard rate.
Heard many story about Amy at No. 1 so I paid her a visit. I suppose it was her since I called ahead and asked for her. She has visibly cosmetic facial improvement on the nose and mouth, may be eye too but has a nice rack. So The massage was very nice as well, again access to top was limited. She only let me taste the cherry once and push me back down. The worse thing was she doesn't touch my Jr and put my hand over my Jr suggesting DYI. WHAT THE *UCK. I like what I feel with my hands so I just finished myself. Nice tits but no access, I thought she had a nice butt but to me it was pretty flat. Worst part is DYI. Also now it charged 50 for HHR so I only tip 50, should only be 40 but what the heck. Did I get the right Amy? The experience wasn't as expected given all the waving reviews on her.
[QUOTE=UpIntheSky;5572920]Massage Now, ask for Jerry (aka Sylas) and Jamie.[/QUOTE]Is Massage Now a therapeutic place? Is it run by Americans or Chinese?