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Anyone have any experience with Janette? Her ad lists all the professional blah blah blah, but it also says draping is optional, and she does late nights and other hints in her ad.
[URL]https://sarasota.craigslist.org/hws/d/tampa-mobile-incall-tampa/7756620514.html[/URL]
Any good AMPs that'll allow BBFS around in tampa, clw, st pete? Preferably no older than 40 (I'm 25 myself) thanks. Not really hip to the AMP scene. Did some reading just don't know too much feel free to inbox me.
[QUOTE=Ripper69;6931575]Anyone have any experience with Janette? Her ad lists all the professional blah blah blah, but it also says draping is optional, and she does late nights and other hints in her ad.
[URL]https://sarasota.craigslist.org/hws/d/tampa-mobile-incall-tampa/7756620514.html[/URL][/QUOTE]There's like a massage therapist / stretching lady with blonde big titties On craigslist and she'll text you back that she does everything with a blow job at the end for an additional 150 for the blow job.
[QUOTE=Anonymaus;6928054]Went to VIP on Tampa Rd in Oldsmar last week. Showed up on time for my appointment and met with Jennifer, a 40 ish masseuse with nice body and great attitude. And spoke good English! Paid the usual 80 for full hour including table shower, in which she got me quite clean and noted my happy areas. The massage was a bit light pressure, but I did enjoy feeling her hair, etc as she leaned in from the top of the table. I had left a gratuity of 80 on the dresser, so when she flipped me over there was no discussion, just very nice rubbing. She knows what she's doing and when I noticed that she had shed her shorts, my wandering hands touched her cute butt until happy time.
Will go back soon![/QUOTE]She will provide a lot more than HJs. Just got to let her know what you want.
[QUOTE=DrWilly;6899610]I've seen a bit of totally irresponsible speculation (mostly from me!) that the new/pending Florida Law (House Bill 197) affecting "[u]Health Care Practitioners and Massage Therapy[/u]" (Google it) may have contributed to some places, like Yoshiko and Eve's Spa in Largo, electing to shut their doors rather than deal with the business impacts of that law (set to take effect on July 1st, 2024... just under 7 weeks from now). The early closure (a few months before the law takes effect) may be due to the timing of Lease Renewal, or some other influencing factor. See! What'd I tell you all ... totally irresponsible speculation with no foundation in any facts whatsoever!
If you did, in fact, detect an illuminated [b]OPEN[/b] sign, but the old listed phone number still fails to respond (other than voicemail), it may be possible that some NEW establishment has opened up in that location and is attempting to leverage the well-known business name of [u]YOSHIKO[/u] in hopes of drawing in some unsuspecting former Yoshiko customers, while proving lame, yet future-law-abiding services! That's just a guess too.[/QUOTE]The Gov is hoping many places will just close up and leave the state. The new law will require take in forms whereby we have to give our name, address, phone number, and the type of massage we opted for and the shop has to record the therapist name, license number, phone number and address, for every massage, and every client and these records have to be kept for 1 year. And, a take in form is required for every massage. If the shops decide to not do it, when the get caught, they will get shut down.
It's unconstitutional. This is a witch hunt and an all out assault on Asian run businesses.
No more open between 12 am and 5 am.
Many of these parlors aren't even aware of the changes coming.
Unlicensed activity or getting caught doing a HE will result in Busimess closure. Not just a fine anymore.
It's pure BS and overreach.
[QUOTE=MongerMax;6932307]The Gov is hoping many places will just close up and leave the state. The new law will require take in forms whereby we have to give our name, address, phone number, and the type of massage we opted for and the shop has to record the therapist name, license number, phone number and address, for every massage, and every client and these records have to be kept for 1 year. And, a take in form is required for every massage. If the shops decide to not do it, when the get caught, they will get shut down.
It's unconstitutional. This is a witch hunt and an all out assault on Asian run businesses.
No more open between 12 am and 5 am.
Many of these parlors aren't even aware of the changes coming.
Unlicensed activity or getting caught doing a HE will result in Busimess closure. Not just a fine anymore.
It's pure BS and overreach.[/QUOTE]Maybe it'll just push the business to UTR operators, like it was in the good old days. Cops have to hate this too. No more undercover massages. I got a text from a former VIP II favorite yesterday. She's in San Fran rn. Her advice was to stay away from that location as it's been taking LE heat lately.
[QUOTE=MongerMax;6932307]The Gov is hoping many places will just close up and leave the state. The new law will require take in forms whereby we have to give our name, address, phone number, and the type of massage we opted for and the shop has to record the therapist name, license number, phone number and address, for every massage, and every client and these records have to be kept for 1 year. And, a take in form is required for every massage. If the shops decide to not do it, when the get caught, they will get shut down.
It's unconstitutional. This is a witch hunt and an all out assault on Asian run businesses.
No more open between 12 am and 5 am.
Many of these parlors aren't even aware of the changes coming.
Unlicensed activity or getting caught doing a HE will result in Busimess closure. Not just a fine anymore.
It's pure BS and overreach.[/QUOTE]Wonder if someone will challenge the law in court.
Couldn't they just reopen as skin care or relaxation shops and not have to follow the law? or people could just get fake IDs
Guess I am not too disappointed since in my experience the quality of service and girls have been on the decline pretty much nationwide the last few years, and prices have gone up.
I had plans to visit the All Latina Massage Parlor that I saw people posting about on 4th of July weekend but it seems this new law is going to put an end to it all huh? Is it even worth the risk?
[QUOTE=ThiccEnjoyerYo;6935728]I had plans to visit the All Latina Massage Parlor that I saw people posting about on 4th of July weekend but it seems this new law is going to put an end to it all huh? Is it even worth the risk?[/QUOTE]It's not illegal to get a massage, it doesn't matter if it's a AMP, LMP or any other place. I am going to keep doing what I always do not worried about the new law, nothing illegal about what I am doing officer.
Not calling you an officer I am just saying .
[QUOTE=ThiccEnjoyerYo;6935728]I had plans to visit the All Latina Massage Parlor that I saw people posting about on 4th of July weekend but it seems this new law is going to put an end to it all huh? Is it even worth the risk?[/QUOTE]Even if they caught you fucking her balls deep they have to prove you laid her for sex and not that she wasn't just so attracted to you and you to her that y'all just banged. 'you pay for a massage and tip for said massage.
[QUOTE=TacoSupreme;6933110]Maybe it'll just push the business to UTR operators, like it was in the good old days. Cops have to hate this too. No more undercover massages. I got a text from a former VIP II favorite yesterday. She's in San Fran rn. Her advice was to stay away from that location as it's been taking LE heat lately.[/QUOTE]Hypothetically, if it goes UTR, how are we all going to find them? Serious question. I know in LA they have a board (HX) and bookers for the girls and it's kind of UTR, but if you do any kind of digging whatsoever, you can find it -- if you like Asian girls that is. What is the likely outcome for Tampa Bay? I hope nothing changes TBH. Unless I can get in on the UTR scene with more success than I have had in the past (I just don't put in the time).
[QUOTE=LuvJackShack;6936163]It's not illegal to get a massage, it doesn't matter if it's a AMP, LMP or any other place. I am going to keep doing what I always do not worried about the new law, nothing illegal about what I am doing officer.
Not calling you an officer I am just saying .[/QUOTE]Here's my thinking though, and anyone can chime in if I'm just over thinking it all.
You have to give them a copy of your ID (lets assume you give a real one).
They have to make a record of your massage.
Lets say the place gets raided and Mama sings her heart out.
They have documentation by name that you were there.
My other thinking is that they have just made a copy of your ID, who's going to use that as leverage to get what they want from you? (more $$.
[QUOTE=RubMapper;6935497]Wonder if someone will challenge the law in court.
Couldn't they just reopen as skin care or relaxation shops and not have to follow the law? or people could just get fake IDs
Guess I am not too disappointed since in my experience the quality of service and girls have been on the decline pretty much nationwide the last few years, and prices have gone up.[/QUOTE]I recall a whole bunch of years ago Houston Massage Parlors became "Model Studios" where you selected a girl from the lineup who would model fashions for you in a private locked room with a comfy sofa. Also years ago some AMPs in Vegas were rebranded as "Tanning Salons" that had a table similar in all appearances to a massage table and a lamp with a UV bulb; of course there was a female attendant who would supervise your tanning (I suppose help you lotion up and move the UV lamp as needed for that all-over tan) . There was even a tanning bed in one room that looked like it belonged in the Smithsonian.
[QUOTE=ThiccEnjoyerYo;6936674]Here's my thinking though, and anyone can chime in if I'm just over thinking it all.
You have to give them a copy of your ID (lets assume you give a real one).
They have to make a record of your massage.
Lets say the place gets raided and Mama sings her heart out.
They have documentation by name that you were there.
My other thinking is that they have just made a copy of your ID, who's going to use that as leverage to get what they want from you? (more $$.[/QUOTE]You don't Have to give over your I'd; the law just requires information that is typically on said I'd and allows photocopies / scans of the I'd to qualify as record-keeping.
It does state that they have to "confirm" your information but doesn't really mention how. But strictly speaking, no I'd is required and if you gave out plausible-enough info (nothing crazy like 12X Main Street) that would be enough. The establishment may get into trouble if there's false info, but that depends on whether or not the State is allowed to verify patron IDs with a check; that could easily run into privacy /4th Amendment issues and be a challenge in court.
But basically, that whole section is meant to scare away customers who might get freaked out over "give us your name, phone number and address" when showing up one day, especially if they're not informed of this new law. Especially the phone number bit. I don't think much will come of it though. Even if the parlor gets busted, they can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that you partook of extra services merely because you were there at some point. But it's a great intimidation tactic for those LE agencies who want to use (and probably abuse) it.
[QUOTE=Member#1658;6936346]Hypothetically, if it goes UTR, how are we all going to find them? Serious question. I know in LA they have a board (HX) and bookers for the girls and it's kind of UTR, but if you do any kind of digging whatsoever, you can find it -- if you like Asian girls that is. What is the likely outcome for Tampa Bay? I hope nothing changes TBH. Unless I can get in on the UTR scene with more success than I have had in the past (I just don't put in the time).[/QUOTE]Well found this one today on CL.
[URL]https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/hws/d/brandon-relaxing-session/7758316631.html[/URL]
Maybe worth a shot.
Bingo! CL or Adult Search or One Backpage or Bedpage etc etc. There is no shortage of websites for UTR or AAMP's to advertise.
Now regarding contact info, everyone should already have a monger phone, so a monger address should be easy.
If you need me, I'll be at 1060 W Addison having 4 fried chickens and a coke. Monger on,
[QUOTE=TacoSupreme;6937159]Well found this one today on CL.
[URL]https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/hws/d/brandon-relaxing-session/7758316631.html[/URL]
Maybe worth a shot.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TacoSupreme;6937159]Well found this one today on CL.
[URL]https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/hws/d/brandon-relaxing-session/7758316631.html[/URL]
Maybe worth a shot.[/QUOTE]Good report on her in the squirting thread, believe it or not.
[QUOTE=ThiccEnjoyerYo;6936674]Here's my thinking though, and anyone can chime in if I'm just over thinking it all.
You have to give them a copy of your ID (lets assume you give a real one).
They have to make a record of your massage.
Lets say the place gets raided and Mama sings her heart out.
They have documentation by name that you were there.
My other thinking is that they have just made a copy of your ID, who's going to use that as leverage to get what they want from you? (more $$.[/QUOTE]Yeah I was there yeah I got a massage.
The old Chinese lady said I had sex? Oh ok sure prove it.
[QUOTE=OldFag;6939929]Yeah I was there yeah I got a massage.
The old Chinese lady said I had sex? Oh ok sure prove it.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Its real purpose is to scare mongers away and put spas out of business. But it has very little law enforcement utility. I can just see it: "We have a record that you went to Happy Hands Spa three months ago! We know the exact time and date! We know who gave you the massage! She had a license with the state and so did the spa!" Useless. There's nothing to charge here.
Since massage establishments are licensed health care providers regulated by the Health Department, I'm pretty sure that this information is protected by HIPAA, the Federal Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, meaning that it can't be made public, even by LE. (I could be wrong about this, though, so take it with a grain of salt. But pretty sure I'm right.).
The other thing the government didn't think about when making this law is that it provides a way for the spas to track regular customers, especially if they keep electronic records (which are explicitly allowed in the law). If you've been there six times without incident, you're probably safe. If you're new, the spa will know right away and can be extra cautious. It could actually make the spas safer for us and keep them safer from undercovers and LE.
Anyone recommend any good L1 services (HJ and great massage)? Just want something simple and take the knots out. TIA.
Anyone tried this place out? Had AD online typical but said new masseuse. Just wondering if good L2 service or more capable here?
Thanks,
Aging.
[QUOTE=TheHotAzn;6941956]Anyone recommend any good L1 services (HJ and great massage)? Just want something simple and take the knots out. TIA.[/QUOTE]Will PM you with details on a provider who I think will meet your desires very well.
[QUOTE=OldFag;6939929]Yeah I was there yeah I got a massage.
The old Chinese lady said I had sex? Oh ok sure prove it.[/QUOTE]"I'll say it with great respect." "No. 1, she's not my type. No. 2, it never happened. It never happened, okay?
Can I get her info as well I'm here for a few more days would love a massage.
[QUOTE=TheTaxEvader;6942133]Will PM you with details on a provider who I think will meet your desires very well.[/QUOTE]
We for massage Sunday on Hillsboro Ave, pretty lady late 40's maybe friendly, average massage, turn over only he HJ was available. Roaming outside of clothes nothing would be taken off. Definitely not going back.
[QUOTE=TheTaxEvader;6942133]Will PM you with details on a provider who I think will meet your desires very well.[/QUOTE]Could you please send your option.
I will pass along one as well.
New to the area, looking for a sensual UTR non AMP.
I can send some also.
Please send details.
It says Massage on the sign for the plaza. It says barbershop as well. Then the windows you can't see in and If you google them, it says they are called beauty of Zen And they offer massages and waxing for the body, etc.
I'm thinking this is a spot where you can get your dick waxed and it sucked right afterwards.
[QUOTE=OldFag;6944785]It says Massage on the sign for the plaza. It says barbershop as well. Then the windows you can't see in and If you google them, it says they are called beauty of Zen And they offer massages and waxing for the body, etc.
I'm thinking this is a spot where you can get your dick waxed and it sucked right afterwards.[/QUOTE]Google maps shows a barber shop next to a massage joint. Two separate entrance. Requires more Intel.
That's the notorious man-hater, who used to run $60 body rub ads and headache relief ads, and delivered NO satisfaction.
[QUOTE=OldFag;6944785]It says Massage on the sign for the plaza. It says barbershop as well. Then the windows you can't see in and If you google them, it says they are called beauty of Zen And they offer massages and waxing for the body, etc.
I'm thinking this is a spot where you can get your dick waxed and it sucked right afterwards.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bachatero;6945582]That's the notorious man-hater, who used to run $60 body rub ads and headache relief ads, and delivered NO satisfaction.[/QUOTE]How could she have not provided satisfactory service at the price mentioned.
Went to AAA saw Amy. First time met her second time there. 80 for hour. Pretty girl give her about 6. 9 on looks. Small petite body small b's nice tiny butt. Age no idea if I had to guess late 30's but cute definitely cute. She had on cute short shorts navy with white hearts hugged her tiny butt well. No clue what top she had on. Pretty good English. Talked when talked to very nice but not to talky made sure you were happy. Massage was so so not terrible and I may have rushed it by rubbing her ass a little too much. She got hot towel and I had cash ready made offer 160 shed accepted. She leaves comes back in and ok I am not huge but she says baby it is too big she says I didn't check I can't do. Try and get her to suck but moment was gone all she kept saying was too much. She gives half hearted Blow for less than minute and kept saying blah blah blah. She gave a half hearted blow to try and get me to finish she gave up on that got her to tug me no condom while I fingered her butt a little and licked her pussy. Told her to lay on bed again and got her to jerk me off till I came on her neck and tits. Not complaining about her by any means we all have limits I guess and had a good mix considering. She just chilled on bed naked for 4-5 min I got her towel to wipe her up. She finally got up got dressed. She left came back with bottle of water, she was nice but told me too much ok. I said ok and parted nicely. Would I go back. No because literally didn't mesh physically not because she wasn't worthy of second visit.
Aging.
[QUOTE=OldFag;6945633]How could she have not provided satisfactory service at the price mentioned.[/QUOTE]The girl that started that business has been running ads for years for $60 body rubs, using provocative pictures & language, but not delivering happy endings. Before she opened Zen she ran Craigslist.
Employment ads recruiting girls while promising them in writing they could just wear jeans & a top, no nudity, and she would train them on basic non-sexual body rubs. The business model failed because every customer felt misled; I don't even know if the place is still open.
Every year or so this girl (now calls herself Rosi) starts back giving basic services to pay the bills but always slinks back into her con of promising but not delivering. She is now advertising daily on Listcrawler in the YOLO section offering $100 QV & $150 hhr FS /$200 hr FS. In years of ads I have never seen her smiling in one of her pictures, and she doesn't smile when you visit her.
Save your money.
[URL]https://yolo.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/172175264[/URL]
Solid points! A quick Google indicates massage therapy falls under HIPPA. Also, the HIPPA Privacy Rules does contain an exception for law enforcement, without patient authorization, if there is a court order, warrant, subpoena or administrative request.
Disclosure. I am not an attorney, so conduct your due diligence regarding above statement. Monger on.
[QUOTE=TampaMonger;6940566]Agreed. Its real purpose is to scare mongers away and put spas out of business. But it has very little law enforcement utility. I can just see it: "We have a record that you went to Happy Hands Spa three months ago! We know the exact time and date! We know who gave you the massage! She had a license with the state and so did the spa!" Useless. There's nothing to charge here.
Since massage establishments are licensed health care providers regulated by the Health Department, I'm pretty sure that this information is protected by HIPAA, the Federal Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, meaning that it can't be made public, even by LE. (I could be wrong about this, though, so take it with a grain of salt. But pretty sure I'm right.).
The other thing the government didn't think about when making this law is that it provides a way for the spas to track regular customers, especially if they keep electronic records (which are explicitly allowed in the law). If you've been there six times without incident, you're probably safe. If you're new, the spa will know right away and can be extra cautious. It could actually make the spas safer for us and keep them safer from undercovers and LE.[/QUOTE]
Her definition of headache relief is not even close to ours. She's a st8 out of CON City.
[QUOTE=OldFag;6945633]How could she have not provided satisfactory service at the price mentioned.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Brasky;6946424]Solid points! A quick Google indicates massage therapy falls under HIPPA. Also, the HIPPA Privacy Rules does contain an exception for law enforcement, without patient authorization, if there is a court order, warrant, subpoena or administrative request.
Disclosure. I am not an attorney, so conduct your due diligence regarding above statement. Monger on.[/QUOTE]I wonder how many AMPs shut down today? Rumor has it that yesterday may have been last day for Crystals.
July 1st today, new requirements are in place? Am sure LEO will start visiting them soon? What are your thoughts gentlemen.
[QUOTE=Tony200;6949221]July 1st today, new requirements are in place? Am sure LEO will start visiting them soon? What are your thoughts gentlemen.[/QUOTE]Nothing illegal about getting a massage. The Cops can run your tag and know who you are. So nothing to worry about.
There are positive reports about this provider from a well respected contributor. I wonder what is causingthe discrepancy.
[QUOTE=LimeRick14;6946141]The girl that started that business has been running ads for years for $60 body rubs, using provocative pictures & language, but not delivering happy endings. Before she opened Zen she ran Craigslist.
Employment ads recruiting girls while promising them in writing they could just wear jeans & a top, no nudity, and she would train them on basic non-sexual body rubs. The business model failed because every customer felt misled; I don't even know if the place is still open.
Every year or so this girl (now calls herself Rosi) starts back giving basic services to pay the bills but always slinks back into her con of promising but not delivering. She is now advertising daily on Listcrawler in the YOLO section offering $100 QV & $150 hhr FS /$200 hr FS. In years of ads I have never seen her smiling in one of her pictures, and she doesn't smile when you visit her.
Save your money.
[URL]https://yolo.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/172175264[/URL][/QUOTE]
You guys ever hear of anyone "catching anything" from a BBBJ from and AMP? Hope everyone has a great fourth and stay safe fellas!