"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=Ngasub20;6372534]They each have separate profiles on the site. I met the blonde in the middle for coffee and she came across as *extremely* high maintenance and downright bitchy and scornful, but, she says that she just comes across that why because she's so selective and demanding about who she'll play with. Rather high expectations for being middle aged.[/QUOTE]I also spoke to the blonde in the middle. Didn't meet her, but we were texting for a while. She also came on to me rather bitchy, and demanding. I think she even discussed the fact that she needed a man with a very short refractory period. Well, I'm not 19 any more sweetheart. I can find women like these at a bar any weekend on Canton Street.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d096b3bb-c49f-441b-a921-3bf0f59a9e98[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8fe2467c-e574-4c3a-8acd-e9a1ef64b9b3[/URL]

Anyone had any dealings with this one? Exchanged a lot of really good texts with her & received many hot pics. Really sexy body. She was agreeable to the date I proposed to get together & all was ready except for ONE little thing--proof of my "commitment. " Wanted a $100 advance.

I admit I'm really liking this girl otherwise. But unless one of why'all tells me you've seen her before & was happy with the experience, then it's the usual no-deposit policy for me.

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6374168][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8fe2467c-e574-4c3a-8acd-e9a1ef64b9b3[/URL]

Anyone had any dealings with this one? Exchanged a lot of really good texts with her & received many hot pics. Really sexy body. She was agreeable to the date I proposed to get together & all was ready except for ONE little thing--proof of my "commitment. " Wanted a $100 advance.

I admit I'm really liking this girl otherwise. But unless one of why'all tells me you've seen her before & was happy with the experience, then it's the usual no-deposit policy for me.[/QUOTE]I assume you got a verification pic of her doing an uncommon pose so you know she's at least really the girl your texting and not some Romanian dude pulling scams.

Tell her you understand but that you only deal in cash, and don't even have any digital payment apps on your phone for your peace of mind. If that's not enough, offer to sweeten the pot and tell her you'll pay some extra allowance for the convenience of forgoing the deposit. If she's still hard nosed about it and you still believe she's real, you might could try a bit of a sob story. "I'm sorry babe I'm just not comfortable doing that. I was scammed a few years ago and the thought of it happening again just makes me too uncomfortable. Please respect my boundaries in this. " I. E. Using some of the language girls her age have utilized in order to justify their own limits.

If you're absolutely smitten by her, you could always try Venmo (and only Venmo) and send the amount under the "Pay for goods and services" category instead of "Friends and family". Venmo will charge a small fee, like 5% or something, BUT the transaction is "protected" I. E. You can request a refund. Label the service something mundane like "Dog sitting" or "Babysitting" or something else that sounds like a service you might pay for.

You could try just doing it that way and not telling her, she may not notice she doesn't have immediate access to the funds. If / when she ghosts, just put a refund request in with Venmo. Or you may want to mention it upfront you'll be sending it as a "goods and service" transaction for your peace of mind so she knows she won't have direct access to it immediately.

If you request a refund you'll still be out the money for a few weeks while it goes through their process. This isn't 100% guaranteed you'll get it refunded, but generally they don't put up too much of a fight if you sent it through the "goods and services" transaction type since the entire purpose of that type is to provide peace of mind between buyers and sellers.

Of course don't under any circumstances imply it's for pay2play or sex or anything else illegal.

My suggestion is NOT to waste time with someone who won't budge on that, but if you're hellbent on seeing her and willing to go through the hassle that's the only way I would entertain it, but almost certainly not worth the effort.

[QUOTE=Ngasub20;6372534]They each have separate profiles on the site. I met the blonde in the middle for coffee and she came across as *extremely* high maintenance and downright bitchy and scornful, but, she says that she just comes across that why because she's so selective and demanding about who she'll play with. Rather high expectations for being middle aged.[/QUOTE]They are all fugly and middle aged. This is about sugar BABIES. I don't need to pay 40 something hags for sex, I can find that on bumble / hinge / tinder all day. I pity any guy that pays any of these old hags a dime.

[QUOTE=Ngasub20;6372534]They each have separate profiles on the site. I met the blonde in the middle for coffee and she came across as *extremely* high maintenance and downright bitchy and scornful, but, she says that she just comes across that why because she's so selective and demanding about who she'll play with. Rather high expectations for being middle aged.[/QUOTE]Yep, these old hens are going to have to reset their expectations of what being a "middle aged" SB is all about. I would not pay a nickel to see any of 'em.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6357691]She's real and been reviewed positively here in the past. I negotiated her to around 300-350 PPM, but we could never get schedules aligned.[/QUOTE]She is kinda slow on responding to texts, but worth it when you can get to her place. All I can say is she will suck and fuck you dry until you have a hard time walking down the stairs from her apartment. Bonus that she is a natural red head.

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6374168][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8fe2467c-e574-4c3a-8acd-e9a1ef64b9b3[/URL]

Anyone had any dealings with this one? Exchanged a lot of really good texts with her & received many hot pics. Really sexy body. She was agreeable to the date I proposed to get together & all was ready except for ONE little thing--proof of my "commitment. " Wanted a $100 advance.

I admit I'm really liking this girl otherwise. But unless one of why'all tells me you've seen her before & was happy with the experience, then it's the usual no-deposit policy for me.[/QUOTE]It's a scam. Period. Never send an advance. Ever.

[QUOTE=MrDavid97;6371925]Saw her last fall. Very sweet girl but very much a talker. She will go on and on if you let her. I personally prefer getting to know the person I'm about to get into bed with so it wasn't a problem. We met up in the morning and she hosted, lives in a nice area. All bare daty, cip 400. I've read she can be negotiated down but it was last minute and I wanted to secure the meet. Had just enough time to go down on her before I had to catch my flight. Will be my go-to whenever I visit.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e6e35e41-97b0-4bdf-9519-b5a06e7ffeab[/URL][/QUOTE]Guess she went inactive? Man was hoping I can get in touch with her.

I hit her up. She offered her digits without request. Not overly aggressive with the text. Just "wyd" type stuff. Negotiating terms was quick. 400 to 200 quick and easy. Gave her the addy and 30 minutes later was at the door. No vibe or connection. Business like and not rushed; but she wasn't trying to stay longer than the bare minimum. Bbj was short and had a lot to be desired. Score of 3. Only because it started good and then she just stopped. She rode CG for a brief moment and claimed she was tired. I was digging the view. If you like the short thin type; she's a looker. Then doggie to lazy doggy and CIP. She was polite, but out the door within 5 minutes of popping. LOL Not a horror story just not much better than a LC girl.

Glhf.

[QUOTE=AmpFanatl;6369770][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/32719979-f9cf-43a3-bfe8-892d129144d5[/URL]

She's a pro. Straight to text and wanting to meet same day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hits79;6374588]Guess she went inactive? Man was hoping I can get in touch with her.[/QUOTE]She is active, I was just talking with her recently. Have a meetup scheduled.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;6374387]Yep, these old hens are going to have to reset their expectations of what being a "middle aged" SB is all about. I would not pay a nickel to see any of 'em.[/QUOTE]About 7 beers & a couple of shots before I would start thinking about hitting that.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6374229]I assume you got a verification pic of her doing an uncommon pose so you know she's at least really the girl your texting and not some Romanian dude pulling scams.

Tell her you understand but that you only deal in cash, and don't even have any digital payment apps on your phone for your peace of mind. If that's not enough, offer to sweeten the pot and tell her you'll pay some extra allowance for the convenience of forgoing the deposit. If she's still hard nosed about it and you still believe she's real, you might could try a bit of a sob story. "I'm sorry babe I'm just not comfortable doing that. I was scammed a few years ago and the thought of it happening again just makes me too uncomfortable. Please respect my boundaries in this. " I. E. Using some of the language girls her age have utilized in order to justify their own limits.

If you're absolutely smitten by her, you could always try Venmo (and only Venmo) and send the amount under the "Pay for goods and services" category instead of "Friends and family". Venmo will charge a small fee, like 5% or something, BUT the transaction is "protected" I. E. You can request a refund. Label the service something mundane like "Dog sitting" or "Babysitting" or something else that sounds like a service you might pay for.

You could try just doing it that way and not telling her, she may not notice she doesn't have immediate access to the funds. If / when she ghosts, just put a refund request in with Venmo. Or you may want to mention it upfront you'll be sending it as a "goods and service" transaction for your peace of mind so she knows she won't have direct access to it immediately.

If you request a refund you'll still be out the money for a few weeks while it goes through their process. This isn't 100% guaranteed you'll get it refunded, but generally they don't put up too much of a fight if you sent it through the "goods and services" transaction type since the entire purpose of that type is to provide peace of mind between buyers and sellers.

Of course don't under any circumstances imply it's for pay2play or sex or anything else illegal.

My suggestion is NOT to waste time with someone who won't budge on that, but if you're hellbent on seeing her and willing to go through the hassle that's the only way I would entertain it, but almost certainly not worth the effort.[/QUOTE]I'll try that, & see what happens.

[QUOTE=AmpFanatl;6375061]She is active, I was just talking with her recently. Have a meetup scheduled.[/QUOTE]Weird, I am getting "Profile Not Available" message. Maybe because I just created an account dunno.

[QUOTE=Hits79;6375816]Weird, I am getting "Profile Not Available" message. Maybe because I just created an account dunno.[/QUOTE]Are we talking about the curvy 21 year old Redhead? If so, she has a new profile:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/604d696e-3c89-4917-84d8-ed61fae9160b[/URL]

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6375944]Are we talking about the curvy 21 year old Redhead? If so, she has a new profile:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/604d696e-3c89-4917-84d8-ed61fae9160b[/URL][/QUOTE]

Yeah I don't know, Still the same thing. Any link I click on this forum all say this lol. I don't know what is going on.

Also, BTW, I got premium membership for $44 for 90 days. Did they just lowered their prices? It was more then $100/ month. I don't know what is going.

[QUOTE=Hits79;6375964]Yeah I don't know, Still the same thing. Any link I click on this forum all say this lol. I don't know what is going on.

Also, BTW, I got premium membership for $44 for 90 days. Did they just lowered their prices? It was more then $100/ month. I don't know what is going.[/QUOTE]I can't say why the link in my post isn't working for you. It still works for me. Search BellaFantastic for her new profile.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6375999]I can't say why the link in my post isn't working for you. It still works for me. Search BellaFantastic for her new profile.[/QUOTE]I'm talking with her now. Searched the forum and couldn't find reviews. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

[QUOTE=Hits79;6375964]Yeah I don't know, Still the same thing. Any link I click on this forum all say this lol. I don't know what is going on.

Also, BTW, I got premium membership for $44 for 90 days. Did they just lowered their prices? It was more then $100/ month. I don't know what is going.[/QUOTE]You choose the wrong option. You choose dating instead of the sugar baby option. Same thing happened to me.

[QUOTE=Totalcsllc;6376105]You choose the wrong option. You choose dating instead of the sugar baby option. Same thing happened to me.[/QUOTE]Bah fuck LOL no wonder haha.

[QUOTE=Dawgins;6376064]I'm talking with her now. Searched the forum and couldn't find reviews. Can anyone point me in the right direction?[/QUOTE][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/604d696e-3c89-4917-84d8-ed61fae9160b[/URL]

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;6371406]I knew there was a site where women review us and today I was told I've been flagged 3 times as cheap because I want to spend 250 for daytime meets. I can't decide if it's worth changing my number and user name given that I really don't want to spend that much more than that.[/QUOTE]This one? [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/[/URL].

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;6371406]I knew there was a site where women review us and today I was told I've been flagged 3 times as cheap because I want to spend 250 for daytime meets. I can't decide if it's worth changing my number and user name given that I really don't want to spend that much more than that.[/QUOTE]I still don't know if there is a forum like that. I googled it and nothing comes up, and also no one here has ever posted a link to an Atlanta forum for SBs, similar to this one, that we use.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6376852]I still don't know if there is a forum like that. I googled it and nothing comes up, and also no one here has ever posted a link to an Atlanta forum for SBs, similar to this one, that we use.[/QUOTE][URL]

https://saafe.info/main/index.php[/URL]

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6376852]I still don't know if there is a forum like that. I googled it and nothing comes up, and also no one here has ever posted a link to an Atlanta forum for SBs, similar to this one, that we use.[/QUOTE]I remember seeing some site like this that was based on phone number (not SA profile name) some time back. I think it was geared toward escorts keeping tabs on specific johns, but maybe usage has expanded into the sugar scene. Nothing came up in a search on my number at the time so I didn't make note of it.

Maybe someone else knows what the site is?

[QUOTE=NapataJohn;6376788]This one? [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Reading some threads on this Reddit was eye opening. Those hos have insane expectations. There are even numerous comments about how to get a civilian date to agree to pay all living expenses by the third date and before any sex.

[QUOTE=OliverNP;6377200]I remember seeing some site like this that was based on phone number (not SA profile name) some time back. I think it was geared toward escorts keeping tabs on specific johns, but maybe usage has expanded into the sugar scene. Nothing came up in a search on my number at the time so I didn't make note of it.

Maybe someone else knows what the site is?[/QUOTE]Very close kept Hoe secret, I've tried to get a couple of girls to give me the 411 on it & both blew me off while acknowledging the site.

[QUOTE=AmpFanatl;6376662][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/604d696e-3c89-4917-84d8-ed61fae9160b[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks but I was asking for reviews. Does anyone have any experience with this one? I swear someone posted about her recently.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6377268]Reading some threads on this Reddit was eye opening. Those hos have insane expectations. There are even numerous comments about how to get a civilian date to agree to pay all living expenses by the third date and before any sex.[/QUOTE]A large crossover between posters on [URL]https://old.reddit.com/r/SexWorkersOnly/[/URL] & the sugarbaby subreddit. Quite a few posters on the sugarbaby subreddit are straight up hoes, where they are talking about taking multiple dicks a day while living in an extended stay hotel & then offering advice in the sugarbaby subreddit. If your doing quick visits out of a notel, then your not a sugarbaby.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;6377274]Very close kept Hoe secret, I've tried to get a couple of girls to give me the 411 on it & both blew me off while acknowledging the site.[/QUOTE]It's an app they use call MrNumber.

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;6377282]A large crossover between posters on [URL]https://old.reddit.com/r/SexWorkersOnly/[/URL] & the sugarbaby subreddit. Quite a few posters on the sugarbaby subreddit are straight up hoes, where they are talking about taking multiple dicks a day while living in an extended stay hotel & then offering advice in the sugarbaby subreddit. If your doing quick visits out of a notel, then your not a sugarbaby.[/QUOTE]It's really interesting how the SBs on the Reddit try to rationalize and twist their brains into pretzels to believe that they aren't prostitutes. They talk about how insulted they are by PPM offers because they aren't hos. But then they openly talk about having sex with a SD only after he has started paying a set allowance negotiated up front. I can see how a woman could think of herself as not being a prostitute if she never enters into a deal for a set amount of money and instead is looking for her SD to be generous with shopping, trips, and the like. But a set allowance negotiated in advance and required as a condition to having sex is the same as a PPM for sex -- both are pay to play. They are straight up prostitutes.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6377268]Reading some threads on this Reddit was eye opening. Those hos have insane expectations. There are even numerous comments about how to get a civilian date to agree to pay all living expenses by the third date and before any sex.[/QUOTE]This is crazy love [URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/SugarBABYonlyforum/comments/11tep4y/sd_wants_to_buy_me_a_home_in_america_to_move_to_i/[/URL].

[QUOTE=SeekingHead;6377274]Very close kept Hoe secret, I've tried to get a couple of girls to give me the 411 on it & both blew me off while acknowledging the site.[/QUOTE][URL] the other board dot com[/URL]

[QUOTE=Dawgins;6377277]Thanks but I was asking for reviews. Does anyone have any experience with this one? I swear someone posted about her recently.[/QUOTE]I have seen her multiple times at her apartment. She is worth a visit, will do anything but anal. Loves to give head and has a great DT. All bare.

She is just somewhat inconsistent with responding to texts. Just be patient and she will respond.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e98fd542-6e6c-41d6-b4c2-027b1a72627e[/URL]

Straight to text. Quoted 300 MnG fee and 400 play time. I said I don't do MnG fees and they replied "Nope". Wished them well and moved on. In retrospect I may have been able to clarify that I would pay 700 total still, but I don't really care.

[QUOTE=Dawgins;6379017][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e98fd542-6e6c-41d6-b4c2-027b1a72627e[/URL]

Straight to text. Quoted 300 MnG fee and 400 play time. I said I don't do MnG fees and they replied "Nope". Wished them well and moved on. In retrospect I may have been able to clarify that I would pay 700 total still, but I don't really care.[/QUOTE]I wonder if anyone has ever paid their MnG fee, and actually got an actual date with play time afterwards.

[QUOTE=Dawgins;6379017][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e98fd542-6e6c-41d6-b4c2-027b1a72627e[/URL] Straight to text. Quoted 300 MnG fee and 400 play time. I said I don't do MnG fees and they replied "Nope". Wished them well and moved on. In retrospect I may have been able to clarify that I would pay 700 total still, but I don't really care.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AmpFanatl;6379106]I wonder if anyone has ever paid their MnG fee, and actually got an actual date with play time afterwards.[/QUOTE]I searched the name leighandjaid and found the posts below. Looks to me like a couple of young girls looking to play the players. . . :

[QUOTE=Jims2321;6195873]StayActive (posted about them (post #10665) Seems like they are charging for m&g and then ghosting according to his post.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DudeNextDoor;6195844]Does anyone have experience with these two? They pop up on the site from time to time but answer messages sporadically. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e98fd542-6e6c-41d6-b4c2-027b1a72627e[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeterPan;6122481]They want $300 for m&g. [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e98fd542-6e6c-41d6-b4c2-027b1a72627e[/URL] They are real and it appears they are just in it make money only based on m&g. And move on. Just wondering if anyone had success beyond?[/QUOTE]

I am curious as to which level of membership you who are successful at this are operating at. There is 30% sale right now that ends Tuesday midnight.

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;6379212]I am curious as to which level of membership you who are successful at this are operating at. There is 30% sale right now that ends Tuesday midnight.[/QUOTE]No real reason to go beyond Premium. You can successfully get your dick wet weekly without whatever "Diamond" gives you.

Met this one up at a bar, took her back to room and she robbed me. And bounced with no shoes. Got me good.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e7df0dad-e07d-4807-93dc-7a4e9417a024[/URL]

Looking to transition from Eros, LC and Strippers to SA. I don't like listcrawler because a majority of chicks have bad hygiene, drug problems, pimps, catfishes, and bad attitudes. Eros isn't bad but the women are robotic a majority of the times and I sense many don't like what they do. I have a great rotation of strippers I see otc, but it can be a lot of work at times to get an outside of the club thing going.

Any do's or don't s before I start?