Thanks Joe. As a newb 1. 5 years I have nothing to add. Other than I wish I had this info 1. 5 years ago!!
Thanks Joe. As a newb 1. 5 years I have nothing to add. Other than I wish I had this info 1. 5 years ago!!
[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3862856]I agree. IMO as much as the price, the problem is quality. Compared to other cities like Vegas, our hookers want as much but are not in the same league. Sadly, since this is the black market, no amount of boycotting will do much good because somebody will break the line and I don't think most of them pay attention. On the plus side, the number of junkies seems to have gone down a lot after backpage shut down. That could mean they've moved on or are in brothels for all I know though.
Here's my suggestions for guys:
1. keep a spreadsheet or some tracker of date, provider, phone number, amount spent, time spent and a rating.
2. figure out your budget and stick to it aggressively.
3. if you're waiting more than 15 minutes in a parking lot send a message saying you need to leave even if you stay.
4. after you see a provider 3 times, ask about a regulars discount. If she doesn't do that then move on. If you're seeing a provider at least 2 times a month they should be willing to give a discount. If you're doing 1/ week then the rate should be cut at least in half.
5. I know the little head can be loud at times but after years of doing this I can tell you that it's better to jack off at home than piss away large amounts of money.
6. depending on how thirsty you are, set your price when you make the appointment. It doesn't work as much as it used to but I still have some success saying 120 for the hh, having the chick say 160 and then standing firm at 120 or 140.
Honestly given the quality and cost of living I think prices should go as:
Street walker:
BJ - 20-40.
Half and half - 40-60.
* keep in mind that you'll likely be in a car and have 15 minutes at most.
Low-Medium End "Escort".
* This means the ones who stay in extended stay or run down motel / hotels and are as much volume as they can get. I'd also say anyone living in the hotel (not travelling) or in a so-so apartment falls into this category.
Qv - 80.
Hh - 120.
H - 200.
* I'd add a tip if you want GFE or some type of fetish. IMO 40 should be enough of a tip for GFE. It's possible that for a BBBJ you'd need to tip as well. Most of them will fall into this category even if they spend every day on their backs.
High End.
* This means she lives in a nice apartment or is staying (not living) at a nice hotel. She will always be freshly groomed and freshly showered. These are also the ones who obviosly invest in their bodies. As men we shouldn't be paying large amounts of money for women with flabby bodies, bad skin and so forth. There's a clock but it starts after the pleasantries and she's there to please. MSOG as well as GFE are the expectation and CBJ or BBBJ is your choice. If she inists on safety only that's fine, but she better make up for it in other ways. Also expect some screening and no wait times because you've made an appointment.
Qv. Not available.
Hh - 200 but generally not available.
H - 300-500.
* Those at the higher price point will usually have professional sites, be younger, look better and so forth. Those at the 300 level will provide enthusiastic GFE that makes you leave standing tall but might be older or not the best looking. Expect to pay more for agency girls and demand a discount for independents. I'd also advise against PSE if it's offered. I'm not sure why some chicks think they should charge double for being more vocal and maybe letting you cum on their faces.
Also be wary of some of the Brazillian ads. They'll give you a provider and you'll have a good time, but it probably won't be the one in the photo.
I also avoid outcalls with escorts I've never seen before and generally avoid outcall only escorts. I also don't like the idea of paying extra for an outcall nor will I ever pay for an uber/lyft.[/QUOTE]Good Post! Doesn't matter if you are a newbie or an old sack like me. Can always learn something, thanks JL.
It was crazy even before BP died. I guess I'm one of those old farts complaining about how much better things were, "back in the day".
I am sticking firmly to $60 qvs. Cheaper if I can get them. I just haven't seen any "ladies" around here worth more than that, IMHO. Yeah, I'm a cheap ass. When I can't find anyone to scratch my itch, I jerk off and put $60 into my piggy bank. When it's full, I travel to greener pastures. I'm thinking DR next.
The other day I received a PM from a regular member with zero posts about a bad news sugar baby I posted about in the sugar bowl blog. I gave him the details of how things went to shit in order to help a new guy out, this is where I fucked up. Today I get a message and he says I just sound biased, he's going to contact her and get her side of the story. WTF! Not only is this a gross violation of trust and our code, is this not a gross violation of forum rules as well? I have refrained from calling out this user by name as I don't want to get in trouble myself. Senior members and mods, please advise!
[QUOTE=ArmyNiceGuy;3866291]The other day I received a PM from a regular member with zero posts about a bad news sugar baby I posted about in the sugar bowl blog. I gave him the details of how things went to shit in order to help a new guy out, this is where I fucked up. Today I get a message and he says I just sound biased, he's going to contact her and get her side of the story. WTF! Not only is this a gross violation of trust and our code, is this not a gross violation of forum rules as well? I have refrained from calling out this user by name as I don't want to get in trouble myself. Senior members and mods, please advise![/QUOTE]Mods know about it now. Put him on your ignore list. There are a lot of dicks on here. And it was amazing to see that you can tell real quick which ones are. Move on. Forget it.
[blue]Best ever advice. It was probably the chick who wrote you.
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[QUOTE=ArmyNiceGuy;3866291]The other day I received a PM from a regular member with zero posts about a bad news sugar baby I posted about in the sugar bowl blog. I gave him the details of how things went to shit in order to help a new guy out, this is where I fucked up. Today I get a message and he says I just sound biased, he's going to contact her and get her side of the story. WTF! Not only is this a gross violation of trust and our code, is this not a gross violation of forum rules as well? I have refrained from calling out this user by name as I don't want to get in trouble myself. Senior members and mods, please advise![/QUOTE]Definitely a violation of the Man Code. But anything done via back channels has nothing to do with the forum itself. I generally only give very basic information to regular members, especially those with ZERO posts.
[QUOTE=ArmyNiceGuy;3866291]The other day I received a PM from a regular member with zero posts about a bad news sugar baby I posted about in the sugar bowl blog. I gave him the details of how things went to shit in order to help a new guy out, this is where I fucked up. Today I get a message and he says I just sound biased, he's going to contact her and get her side of the story. WTF! Not only is this a gross violation of trust and our code, is this not a gross violation of forum rules as well? I have refrained from calling out this user by name as I don't want to get in trouble myself. Senior members and mods, please advise![/QUOTE]Let him go see her and throw his money away then he will find out if you were bias.
[QUOTE=Triptogamont;3865696]It was crazy even before BP died. I guess I'm one of those old farts complaining about how much better things were, "back in the day".
I am sticking firmly to $60 qvs. Cheaper if I can get them. I just haven't seen any "ladies" around here worth more than that, IMHO. Yeah, I'm a cheap ass. When I can't find anyone to scratch my itch, I jerk off and put $60 into my piggy bank. When it's full, I travel to greener pastures. I'm thinking DR next.[/QUOTE]You should be happy to know that English Julia on Eros gave herself a nice raise from 4 to 650. Makes perfect sense because she dyed her hair black and has to cover the extra money spent on the dye. Last year her hour appointment was $350 and she was overpriced then.
[QUOTE=Pubb69;3867444]Let him go see her and throw his money away then he will find out if you were bias.[/QUOTE]I wasn't paying attention but like the moderator suggested it obviously was the woman you posted about, I think I know who it was.
[QUOTE=Pubb69;3867520]You should be happy to know that English Julia on Eros gave herself a nice raise from 4 to 650. Makes perfect sense because she dyed her hair black and has to cover the extra money spent on the dye. Last year her hour appointment was $350 and she was overpriced then.[/QUOTE]Who the fuck is paying that?
[QUOTE=Triptogamont;3867534]Who the fuck is paying that?[/QUOTE]It's all about the dollar. In business it's called Marketing on the street it's called fishing. Doesn't matter if it's watches, clothes, cars, hotel rooms or Pussy it can be anything we buy. They stick a price on it and see who bites. There is always someone that will take the bait even if it's over priced pussy. Unfortunately if enough people take the bait on any of the items I listed it will set the price point for all of us to pay. The good news is if we refuse their bait they have to come down on the price or go out of business. The only item that this marketing / fishing ploy does not apply to is GASOLINE. That shit can be $20 a gallon and your ass and mine will have to bend over and pay it period! Just imagine highway 40 with 5000 people walking down the highway in the heat with their Starbucks coffee, yea bend over and pay up! Back to point there are guys that have it to spend and are dumb enough to spend it and blow some ladies egos through the roof. Stormy Daniels oops!!
I just have to let this out. Action in Raleigh has been sparse for a while. But now it seems particularly dry.
The are so few providers that are reliable. You finally meet one and then they're either gone or they wig out and start acting all weird. All the others (the other 98%) either leaves you smelling like smoke, brings risk in the form of their addiction, pimp, cheating, stealing, or they don't provide a quality service, or they want to charge a crazy amount.
Ugh this place is so dry. I may need to take a road trip for a drink.
[QUOTE=XHippie;3867650]It's all about the dollar. In business it's called Marketing on the street it's called fishing. Doesn't matter if it's watches, clothes, cars, hotel rooms or Pussy it can be anything we buy. They stick a price on it and see who bites. There is always someone that will take the bait even if it's over priced pussy. Unfortunately if enough people take the bait on any of the items I listed it will set the price point for all of us to pay. The good news is if we refuse their bait they have to come down on the price or go out of business. The only item that this marketing / fishing ploy does not apply to is GASOLINE. That shit can be $20 a gallon and your ass and mine will have to bend over and pay it period! Just imagine highway 40 with 5000 people walking down the highway in the heat with their Starbucks coffee, yea bend over and pay up! Back to point there are guys that have it to spend and are dumb enough to spend it and blow some ladies egos through the roof. Stormy Daniels oops!![/QUOTE]One thing for sure is I don't need what they are offering. In most cases I wouldn't touch it for free, really sad to see this the way it is now.
[QUOTE=VincentCor74;3907986]I've met about 30-35 girls / women over the past 2 years [/QUOTE]Then why aren't you posting about them in the escorts section? They obviously aren't sugar babies, they are hookers.
A2.
[QUOTE=Admin2;3908088]Then why aren't you posting about them in the escorts section? They obviously aren't sugar babies, they are hookers.
A2.[/QUOTE]Because someone created a separate section specific to where they were found? I can move the posts over there, if need be. But, point taken.
[blue]It's not just you brother. It's ridiculous. I had a chick write me the other day and DEMAND a post get taken down because some guy called her a prostitute. I checked and it was a commercial transaction described and I said so to her and she responded "because I have sex for money doesn't mean I'm a prostitute."
CC Bill processes charges from sites where chicks are clearly fucking guys for money if they call themselves "sugar babies" but wouldn't process a charge for us even though we have no ads here but because guys mention prostitutes. Apparently they have no issue with prostitutes called sugar babies but talking about prostitution violates their terms.
I just shake my head at the ridiculousness of how sex is treated in the US.
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[QUOTE=VincentCor74;3908107]Because someone created a separate section specific to where they were found? I can move the posts over there, if need be. But, point taken.
[blue]It's not just you brother. It's ridiculous. I had a chick write me the other day and DEMAND a post get taken down because some guy called her a prostitute. I checked and it was a commercial transaction described and I said so to her and she responded "because I have sex for money doesn't mean I'm a prostitute."
CC Bill processes charges from sites where chicks are clearly fucking guys for money if they call themselves "sugar babies" but wouldn't process a charge for us even though we have no ads here but because guys mention prostitutes. Apparently they have no issue with prostitutes called sugar babies but talking about prostitution violates their terms.
I just shake my head at the ridiculousness of how sex is treated in the US.
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Good point, Admin. Tomato, tomahto. They ARE the same.
The point of my post was that I sensed guys frustration with the Sugar sites and just wanted to clarify that there are, absolutely, women that will trade sex for cash / gifts. My hope was that guys wouldn't give it up as (IMHO) a VERY good source for what we are all looking for.
I wasn't trying to ruffle your (or Pubb's, or anyone's) feathers. Apologies if it came across that way. I'll consider the tone of my posts more carefully, for sure. Thanks, again.
Not a massage comment, but.
The next American Flag you see thank John McCain and the ones that served and are serving to protect us. He was one ass kicking HERO and I don't use the word Hero loosely, that word is earned.
[QUOTE=XHippie;3919893]Not a massage comment, but.
The next American Flag you see thank John McCain and the ones that served and are serving to protect us. He was one ass kicking HERO and I don't use the word Hero loosely, that word is earned.[/QUOTE]He is well respected for his military service, POW status and his tenure in Congress serving his constituents. All veterans deserve respect and honor including those who wore gray serving their state. It's unfortunate in our country that many will not give him the respect he deserves because they will only see him as a Republican Party leader so they will care less.
Late but echoing the sentiment. A damn shame POTUS mocked his POW status. Still angry about that but was happy to see Senator McCain engaged in strategery in his funeral planning.
[QUOTE=Purple45;3920018]He is well respected for his military service, POW status and his tenure in Congress serving his constituents. All veterans deserve respect and honor including those who wore gray serving their state. It's unfortunate in our country that many will not give him the respect he deserves because they will only see him as a Republican Party leader so they will care less.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LPennington;3931069]Late but echoing the sentiment. A damn shame POTUS mocked his POW status. Still angry about that but was happy to see Senator McCain engaged in strategery in his funeral planning.[/QUOTE]Why is this posted here and what does it have to do with pussy?
[QUOTE=NiceOne14;3932847]Why is this posted here and what does it have to do with pussy?[/QUOTE]Sorry, I couldn't help myself. You left that wide open. .
Anyway. I have a warning for my fellow mongers. Chlamydia is a real thing, and while some don't know they have it, others like me, figure it out really quickly. Someone, probably one of us, has been doing the rounds. I'm not going to name names, cause site rules and such, but in the past several months, I've contracted it three times, all from hoes that we've discussed. All of them are listed on Rubratings, and all of them seem safe. Each time has been from BBBJ, not full anything.
My primary care provider is getting tired of seeing my ass, and I'm over getting shots in the ass and swallowing cups full of pills. Retiring back to the rub-and-tug.
Be careful out there.
[QUOTE=XHippie;3919893]Not a massage comment, but.
The next American Flag you see thank John McCain and the ones that served and are serving to protect us. He was one ass kicking HERO and I don't use the word Hero loosely, that word is earned.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Purple45;3920018]He is well respected for his military service, POW status and his tenure in Congress serving his constituents. All veterans deserve respect and honor including those who wore gray serving their state. It's unfortunate in our country that many will not give him the respect he deserves because they will only see him as a Republican Party leader so they will care less.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LPennington;3931069]Late but echoing the sentiment. A damn shame POTUS mocked his POW status. Still angry about that but was happy to see Senator McCain engaged in strategery in his funeral planning.[/QUOTE]He mocked him because as a POW he gave up info that lead to the death of over a hundred servicemen. He's a traitor. And a funeral is no place to make s political statement. Who the fuck died that? This after POTUS approved 1/2 staff flag and USD if AF2 to transport McTraitor and his family. You guys are clueless sheeple. Educate yourselves instead of swallowing all the bulkshit the media feeds you. His 1st wife and kids didn't even attend his funeral. He basically abandoned her / them when he got back. He was a POS. Smh.
[QUOTE=MickeyMic;3932915]Sorry, I couldn't help myself. You left that wide open. .
Anyway. I have a warning for my fellow mongers. Chlamydia is a real thing, and while some don't know they have it, others like me, figure it out really quickly. Someone, probably one of us, has been doing the rounds. I'm not going to name names, cause site rules and such, but in the past several months, I've contracted it three times, all from hoes that we've discussed. All of them are listed on Rubratings, and all of them seem safe. Each time has been from BBBJ, not full anything.
My primary care provider is getting tired of seeing my ass, and I'm over getting shots in the ass and swallowing cups full of pills. Retiring back to the rub-and-tug.
Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]The G is out there too. It also seems like you are more likely to catch it from someone under 25 or 30. Primary care provider? That's like using your official phone for side business. Go to the minute clinic. In a dream, the cute 30 ish (female) doctor and staff seemed to giggle and were very nice to a certain dreamer when they visited them.
Ok, I'm sure when Mccain gave up valuable information like the name of his ship and the members of his squadron (which is documented that he gave out as the offensive line of the green bay packers) it really set back our war efforts. It's never been documented that he gave a single piece of valuable information, a fact he has brought up many times himself in his anti torture policy statements.
[QUOTE=UFirst;3933047]He mocked him because as a POW he gave up info that lead to the death of over a hundred servicemen. He's a traitor. And a funeral is no place to make s political statement. Who the fuck died that? This after POTUS approved 1/2 staff flag and USD if AF2 to transport McTraitor and his family. You guys are clueless sheeple. Educate yourselves instead of swallowing all the bulkshit the media feeds you. His 1st wife and kids didn't even attend his funeral. He basically abandoned her / them when he got back. He was a POS. Smh.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=UFirst;3933047]He mocked him because as a POW he gave up info that lead to the death of over a hundred servicemen. He's a traitor. And a funeral is no place to make s political statement. Who the fuck died that? This after POTUS approved 1/2 staff flag and USD if AF2 to transport McTraitor and his family. You guys are clueless sheeple. Educate yourselves instead of swallowing all the bulkshit the media feeds you. His 1st wife and kids didn't even attend his funeral. He basically abandoned her / them when he got back. He was a POS. Smh.[/QUOTE]I'll chime in since my post started this talk. Let's assume what you say is true. There are some at the highest level of our government that if disagreed with your statement would simply say FAKE NEWS and just like that you would be proven wrong because FAKE NEWS Trumps all other statements kinda like the paper rock scissor game. Although you have your educated FACTS Fake News would over rule your educated facts. So when Trump says no other president has done more in 2 years than him people can yell FAKE NEWS some are yelling FAKE PRESIDENT. Has he done more? If so it should be displayed everyday on TV and social media not just FOX News put those FACTS out there shove them down people's throats, not talking point bUt FACTS show me the NUMBERS. I see the FACTS like this John was in the military Donald wasn't, John was tortured and in prison for 5 years for his country, Donald was buying and selling real estate. Assuming John gave in and talked, how long would it have taken Donald to talk, could Donald have survived 5 years? John was offered early release he declined. John married and divorced, Donald married and divorced. John always held his wife's hand in public, Donald? John was on the offensive to make change. Donald is in constant Defensive mode defending any change. In reality how many broken families stay tight and show up at funerals etc. So people missing from Johns funeral doesn't surprise me except for one President Trump. I'm not defending John and bashing Trump, I've voted for Democrats I've voted for republicans, I don't consider myself liberal or consecutive. I have never voted straight anything I pick and choose the smartest one. I just consider my self an American tax payer that is blessed with the right to vote for any candidate based on Facts and their Actions not what Fox or CNN says, you would have to be a 3 year old to not know all the chatter that Fox says 24/7 Donald is making America great again, Hillary / Obama bad. CNN reporting 24/7 Donald makes George W Bush look likable and is the opposite of what the President represents at home and Internationally. Its not called Fake News or Facts News. Fox and CNN are all about “Ratings News” and America is sucking it up like Crack! They have become more like a reality show that after I watch one of them I find myself talking like Ozzy Osborn lol. It's getting more challenging to figure out who to vote for. Hummm should I burn my Nike shoes or burn my NRA hat? Maybe I should wear both and confuse people. My 2 cents.
[QUOTE=XHippie;3934958]I'll chime in since my post started this talk. Let's assume what you say is true. There are some at the highest level of our government that if disagreed with your statement would simply say FAKE NEWS and just like that you would be proven wrong because FAKE NEWS Trumps all other statements kinda like the paper rock scissor game. Although you have your educated FACTS Fake News would over rule your educated facts. So when Trump says no other president has done more in 2 years than him people can yell FAKE NEWS some are yelling FAKE PRESIDENT. Has he done more? If so it should be displayed everyday on TV and social media not just FOX News put those FACTS out there shove them down people's throats, not talking point bUt FACTS show me the NUMBERS. I see the FACTS like this John was in the military Donald wasn't, John was tortured and in prison for 5 years for his country, Donald was buying and selling real estate. Assuming John gave in and talked, how long would it have taken Donald to talk, could Donald have survived 5 years? John was offered early release he declined. John married and divorced, Donald married and divorced. John always held his wife's hand in public, Donald? John was on the offensive to make change. Donald is in constant Defensive mode defending any change. In reality how many broken families stay tight and show up at funerals etc. So people missing from Johns funeral doesn't surprise me except for one President Trump. I'm not defending John and bashing Trump, I've voted for Democrats I've voted for republicans, I don't consider myself liberal or consecutive. I have never voted straight anything I pick and choose the smartest one. I just consider my self an American tax payer that is blessed with the right to vote for any candidate based on Facts and their Actions not what Fox or CNN says, you would have to be a 3 year old to not know all the chatter that Fox says 24/7 Donald is making America great again, Hillary / Obama bad. CNN reporting 24/7 Donald makes George W Bush look likable and is the opposite of what the President represents at home and Internationally. Its not called Fake News or Facts News. Fox and CNN are all about Ratings News and America is sucking it up like Crack! They have become more like a reality show that after I watch one of them I find myself talking like Ozzy Osborn lol. It's getting more challenging to figure out who to vote for. Hummm should I burn my Nike shoes or burn my NRA hat? Maybe I should wear both and confuse people. My 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Take it to [URL]Wral.com[/URL] boards. Boo to your political shit here.
[QUOTE=NiceOne14;3935273]Take it to [URL]Wral.com[/URL] boards. Boo to your political shit here.[/QUOTE]Wish I hadn't made the comment. You contribute here and I don't much. My bad.
[QUOTE=NiceOne14;3935273]Take it to [URL]Wral.com[/URL] boards. Boo to your political shit here.[/QUOTE]This is the rant and rave section, ALL subjects are open for discussion, pussy, politics or whatever. Never tell someone where they should express take their opinion because it's not your own, that's a sign of weakness that you can't defend your own opinion. Freedom of speech rules for now! Discussing politics should not be a offensive and defensive thing unless you believe what CNN and Fox is flapping their lips about. Totally a offensive / defensive orgy going on both those networks.
[QUOTE=XHippie;3936119]This is the rant and rave section, ALL subjects are open for discussion, pussy, politics or whatever. Never tell someone where they should express take their opinion because it's not your own, that's a sign of weakness that you can't defend your own opinion. Freedom of speech rules for now! Discussing politics should not be a offensive and defensive thing unless you believe what CNN and Fox is flapping their lips about. Totally a offensive / defensive orgy going on both those networks.[/QUOTE]No I'm not weak in any sense of the word. Actually A2 moved your comments to rants and raves. Just was hoping this was the one place we didn't have to deal with all this. I definitely can defend my own opinions just choose not to do it in the pussy forum.
[QUOTE=NiceOne14;3936531]No I'm not weak in any sense of the word. Actually A2 moved your comments to rants and raves. Just was hoping this was the one place we didn't have to deal with all this. I definitely can defend my own opinions just choose not to do it in the pussy forum.[/QUOTE]Not to get into a pissing contest but my very brief original post thanking McCain and others for their service was posted in the massage section. UFirst member bumped it to the rant and rave section along with some other attachments. RTFF. Again this is not the Pussy forum it’s the rant and rave forum.
The real issue with Trump and Trumpers is a bending of the truth or outright denial of facts. Anything that goes against their agenda or insults their hubris is labelled as "fake news" and the argument is dismissed before even being considered. To be clear, this also happens within the extreme left-wing factions, but as this alt-right faction current maintains power, they are the most dangerous.
I hope we can all return to a civil, and united society rather than devolving into these tribes under an us. Vs. Them mentality. We need better leadership in order to do this.
[QUOTE=RandomTask101;3936810]The real issue with Trump and Trumpers is a bending of the truth or outright denial of facts. Anything that goes against their agenda or insults their hubris is labelled as "fake news" and the argument is dismissed before even being considered. To be clear, this also happens within the extreme left-wing factions, but as this alt-right faction current maintains power, they are the most dangerous.
I hope we can all return to a civil, and united society rather than devolving into these tribes under an us. Vs. Them mentality. We need better leadership in order to do this.[/QUOTE]No matter if you like or hate a particular politician the good news is History will prove to supporters and non supporters if their actions were justified. The one thing about Trump that is out front and obvious is he will neeever take responsibility for a mistake. He is a win win guy always has been always will be. If he stays 4 years or more in his mind he's a winner. If he gets impeached he will say the system was rigged and it was the biggest witch hunt in Presidential history Fake News Bla Bla Bla. He will separate himself from being responsible so in his mind he wins. Call it the art of the deal. I'm not saying it's wrong are right it's just his style and it's made him a lot of money and got him a lot of pussy. When the media bashes his ego and image or he feels the heat in the White House kitchen he holds another rally with his base to patch those ego holes. And around and around we go, this has been going on since he was elected. He may survive 4 years I don't know. Richard Nixon faced the firing squad and admitted hey I Fucked Up I'm out of here he took it like a man that had a pair.
[QUOTE=RandomTask101;3936810]The real issue with Trump and Trumpers is a bending of the truth or outright denial of facts. Anything that goes against their agenda or insults their hubris is labelled as "fake news" and the argument is dismissed before even being considered. To be clear, this also happens within the extreme left-wing factions, but as this alt-right faction current maintains power, they are the most dangerous.
I hope we can all return to a civil, and united society rather than devolving into these tribes under an us. Vs. Them mentality. We need better leadership in order to do this.[/QUOTE]Time to redistribute the power.
[QUOTE=UFirst;3937196]Time to redistribute the power.[/QUOTE]This is my pecepction of why Trump got elected and it has everything to do with what you are saying "Redistribute the Power"and the elephant and donkey being told we have had enough of you. Remember at the debates Donald went 100% against the traditional answers and debate forum and went straight for the kill. Then his comment about he was going to drain the swamp. The American people or at least the ones that were voting in the states that can win an election were fed up with the current BS coming out of Washington and when they heard Trump at the debates thought wait a minute this is what I've been wanting to hear. And when he started on tour with his rallies they wanted to hear more and more. We as a nation were hung over from the recent wars, immigration, grid lock in Washington on everything from trade to health insurance. All we saw was Fox & CNN stir the flames daily while the politicians Republican and Democrat pointed fingers at each other and vote themselves a raise and go on vacation. Meanwhile the price of gas, food, insurance and jobs were on a razors edge more and more immigrants coming across the border, more jobs going elsewhere. So! Donald comes along and says I'm going to drain this god damn swamp and get this ship back on the road. You guys are going to have beautiful insurance, I'm going to bring all the jobs back to America, I'm going to put an end to China and other countries ripping us off, I'm even going to build a Huge Beautiful wall and they are going to pay for it, it's going to be a beautiful thing that we are going to accomplish. I'm going to Make America Great Again. If you have a huge part of the voting nation pissed off and hear this they have found their guy. The other guys at the debates appeared to be a no change candidate. This is why he got elected. The problem is Washington is a machine that has taken decades and decades to evolve. We are now a globle economy that is impossible to separate without serious financial consequences not only to the other side but to Americans businesses as well. I could care less what porn star Donald banged but I am concerned about him using his heavy hand in this job that he used in his personal business. I really do believe he wants to protect our borders and prevent other countries from ripping us off. The problem I see is he has thin skin and he just can't let a criticism go with out a response tweet, he feeds the media. And all the things he wants to do takes small steps and tons of planning and negotiations to accomplish not one big broad brush, Washington and the rest of the world just does not work that way. Which brings me back to why he got elected, the Americans that voted to put him into office didn't want a traditional politician. But we are ALL learning changing Washington is not easy. And if you elect a president with no experience in politics and shoots off his mouth in public as if he was at home. Well he or she has their work cut out for them and we as a nation have to hope for the best. Every president is under a microscope by the media, Donald has put a spot light on his office with the people he associates with and their actions and that damn tweeting. Maybe his next 4 years will be smoother lol. Just my perception of our current president.
In all fairness most politicians promise to drain the swamp but never get around to it. Even Obama promised to choose the route of diversity and exclude Washington insiders as much as possible. As much as I don't like Trump I think the reality is that you need some of those insiders to make things work, you just have to be careful with the access you give them, what you take from them and that you don't let them railroad your ideas for change.
Regarding why he got elected, he motivated a large number of people who felt voiceless into thinking he was their champion. Let's be honest if you're an ill-educated, average or below average white male the last 10+ years haven't been so great. You lost labor jobs to "Mexicans", you saw blacks buying homes in better neighborhoods, your boss may have become a woman and so fort. This is going to suck to say but every since slavery poor white males have been happy to make little progress and live shitty lives because others were oppressed and they at least had the illussion that in addition to being better than others, they may one day be well off.
Obama's election made it clear that the social order was an illusion and Clinton's second nomination cemented that. Then there's how the lie has morphed. It's become harder to oppress women and minorities based on trivial bullshit. So now women are called feminist bitches and minorities are called the takers. Trump tapped into that and since he didn't have to worry about running later campaigns he was able to tap into it with the kid of vitriol that actually inspires people to get out and vote, similar to Palin (that chick could have beat Trump but she chose money instead).
Will he win again? It depends on what the democrats do. Clinton barely ran a campaign and did nothing to inspire voters to vote. The next person needs to do more than just gin up anti-Trump hate, they need to inspire people to want to vote like Obama did.
We know Trump voters don't give a shit about Russia, sexual harrassment and so forth. We also know the democrats won't run a nasty campaign. It's going to come down to who can get the most voters out, especially in those states that really fuck up the electoral college math.
[QUOTE=Amateur11;3933079]The G is out there too. It also seems like you are more likely to catch it from someone under 25 or 30. Primary care provider? That's like using your official phone for side business. Go to the minute clinic. In a dream, the cute 30 ish (female) doctor and staff seemed to giggle and were very nice to a certain dreamer when they visited them.[/QUOTE]It's all too real. It happens. When I caught one of them several years ago I got online and determined what to take, then ordered online. I can't remember exactly, but it was like $40 for one "z-pack", and $70 for ten packs. I bought ten z-packs. A z-pack is three pills of Azithromycin or other anti-biotic. For G or C, just take two pills at once one time (1000 mg). That's it. Cleared it right up. Had the symptoms again about a year ago, but this time I was ready. Cleared it right up again. And I also gave a z-pack to the girl I caught it from.
A z-pack basically has no symptoms.
If you think you've caught the G or C, inbox me if you'd like a "sample" z-pack. I guess I'll part with one to help a fellow monger. They are packaged in a tamper-proof way, so you'll know they are "good". Well, as good as drugs off the internet can be expected to be. But in my opinion, they work.
Drugs off the internet can't be any more risky than the daily life of a monger, eh?
[QUOTE=JoeLooking;3937914]In all fairness most politicians promise to drain the swamp but never get around to it. Even Obama promised to choose the route of diversity and exclude Washington insiders as much as possible. As much as I don't like Trump I think the reality is that you need some of those insiders to make things work, you just have to be careful with the access you give them, what you take from them and that you don't let them railroad your ideas for change.
Regarding why he got elected, he motivated a large number of people who felt voiceless into thinking he was their champion. Let's be honest if you're an ill-educated, average or below average white male the last 10+ years haven't been so great. You lost labor jobs to "Mexicans", you saw blacks buying homes in better neighborhoods, your boss may have become a woman and so fort. This is going to suck to say but every since slavery poor white males have been happy to make little progress and live shitty lives because others were oppressed and they at least had the illussion that in addition to being better than others, they may one day be well off.
Obama's election made it clear that the social order was an illusion and Clinton's second nomination cemented that. Then there's how the lie has morphed. It's become harder to oppress women and minorities based on trivial bullshit. So now women are called feminist bitches and minorities are called the takers. Trump tapped into that and since he didn't have to worry about running later campaigns he was able to tap into it with the kid of vitriol that actually inspires people to get out and vote, similar to Palin (that chick could have beat Trump but she chose money instead).
Will he win again? It depends on what the democrats do. Clinton barely ran a campaign and did nothing to inspire voters to vote. The next person needs to do more than just gin up anti-Trump hate, they need to inspire people to want to vote like Obama did.
We know Trump voters don't give a shit about Russia, sexual harrassment and so forth. We also know the democrats won't run a nasty campaign. It's going to come down to who can get the most voters out, especially in those states that really fuck up the electoral college math.[/QUOTE]Great summary!
"This is going to suck to say but every since slavery poor white males have been happy to make little progress and live shitty lives because others were oppressed and they at least had the illussion that in addition to being better than others, they may one day be well off. ".
I've been sayin this for years. At least I'm white is a phrase that still holds a lot of meaning but perhaps not so much over the past several years. I predicted a trump win and we are one war or recession away from re election.
[QUOTE=Tooter;3978923]Recently visited this provider in a dream of mine recently. The results are somewhat mix add like to share it with you.
First, the young woman is not the same person as in the pictures. The pictures represent a slightly more mature and dinner individual. Is the person I met in my dream was younger, heavier with a bit of belly, still very cute in the face, and certainly more endowed. I happen to be a big fan of curves so there was no problem so far. I also happen to enjoy a good massage with some flirtiness and a sensual ending.
30 minute massage = $80.
60 minute massage = $120.
Upgrade ending from H to 0 = +$40.
The apartment was a mess but not off putting. She does not offer a shower but will that wasn't a deal breaker. Her massage was sub par. I'm not saying it was bad (I've had bad). But it was not good either. It wasn't very flirty. It wasn't very erotic. It certainly was not nuru (she uses baby oil). I came in for a one hour massage but changed to 30 min with upgraded ending. That was the right choice. Before you think that my dream was all negative, let me say that I dreamt that she had an awesome set of double-Ds that I would have enjoyed for hours on end. Nice and full. And her oral skills were absolutely wonderful. It almost made up for the fact that my dream only lasted 20 minutes.
Would I repeat? Maybe, but I would just play with that rack rather than have the massage. And only if I were already in the area.
[URL]http://raleigh.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/come-share-a-relaxing-nuru-exp/508017560390[/URL][/QUOTE]So a fat chick in a messy apt. Gives you a 20 minute hustle and you are thinking of repeating? I will ask it again, can't we do better?
[QUOTE=BallAllDay;3978177]Any other day I would have walked. She's prolly 30 pounds lighter that her pics. Acne. Scabs. Bad teeth. I had to piss when I got there and was going to walk but. I didn't. Then she said it's her birthday. All of us are in this for different reasons. Alisha is sweet and kind. She's also down on her luck. To say the least. I was in a position to help. So I stayed. It ended up being a good session. I like DATY and even though she said it was ok I passed. She gives a really good BBBJ. No CIM. We then went through all positions. I had asked her to shower and she did. She was clean. No scent. Since it was her Bday I asked her how she wanted to cum. Said she hadn't in weeks. She wanted it k9. She pushed back and pounded til she came. I won't tepeat but I was glad I could help her out. She told me donation paid for her room and she could eat tonight. Who knows it might go in her pipe but hey. It's her Bday right? LOL.[/QUOTE]Oh man! You fell for its my birthday scam. They all use that one LMAO.
[QUOTE=Pubb69;3979342]So a fat chick in a messy apt. Gives you a 20 minute hustle and you are thinking of repeating? I will ask it again, can't we do better?[/QUOTE]Well. That's not really what I said, is it? I said that she had an awesome rack and that she gave a killer BJ.
I come here to read and offer reviews on providers. Sometimes (often, ahem. Usually) providers turn out different than what we expect. It was so in this case and I wanted to share.
Overall it was a good experience. To someone else it might have been a great experience. To another it might be a bad one. To each their own.
Could this area be better? Uh, yes, of course. But in the meantime, the best we can do is provide each other with decent intel rather than knock each other around.