In theory I agree, in practice I was spooked
[QUOTE=DrSummer;4038404]Let me add a different perspective to this. I can't think of why LEO would be monitoring potential SD / SB communications and trying to get into the sugar bowl unless someone tipped them, they want to catch a big fish or someone underage is involved. The fear of LEO's monitoring of SA is largely unfounded IMO. It is not a public nuisance or health issue (at least not yet) compared to escorts and SWs. They go for such raids where they can catch a large number of people at once, make a big public spectacle and try to curtail such things. They can't do it in sugar bowl. Those are individual personal communications. While being careful in communications with SBs not to talk about specific acts for money, I find it actually in the SDs interest to have some communications in writing about what they should expect during the date and getting those acknowledged by SB. More realistic chance is that the SB goes sour (for whatever reason, lower allowance than expected, they want to blackmail you for more money) and try to accuse you of something that is not true, then you have evidence that she knew what to expect during date. The chance of you ending up in that situation is much higher than LEO randomly monitoring sugar bowl and picking you. Few things I do to safeguard myself in case if I happen to fall into those situations.
1. Very early in my communications with SB, I get a written response from her that she is indeed over 18 yrs and tell her that I don't date anyone who hasn't turned 18.
2. Don't relate some acts to allowance, but make her acknowledge she knows what activities I expect from the date and she is Ok with that.
3. Never talk about having drinks if she is not above legal drinking age.
4. After the date, I ask her to text me back when she gets home safe. Almost all of them do. Then I thank her for good time and looking forward to the next date. It will give some evidence that the date ended in a pleasant way.
Play safe.
Dr. S.[/QUOTE]My brain was telling me the same things. I do age validate and ask for state issues I'd at the first meet. Don't talk expectations other than a general SD / SB relationship in the setup, and only offer to OT for the meet, and maybe some trivial specific expense just for meeting.
In this case, the cooncidence of the delays in meeting, the ask for identifying clothing, a guy sitting in a truck scoping me out (probably bored and just people watching), and then the arrival of a plain clothes female officer in a marked car. Spooked me. I realize the worst that could have happen would have been a "talking to of the risks of prostitution" and nothing more, but the circumstances just told me to leave.
I did reconnect with xxSexxiLexxi and apologized for ditching the meet, and I think we are good now.
Report it when you suspect it
[QUOTE=WreckItRight;4039302]There are more than a few underage Profiles on SA. Check their ID for sure. I almost got bit on this. (I took her word for it) . More than likely its angry parent / guardian that calls LE. It did not go well.
Fortunately I didn't do anything wrong but I did find out what the " age of consent" was for Indiana real fast. I made a fast U turn.[/QUOTE]Especially if you can get a text or SA message stating so, screenshot that and report the profile. Why bother?
1) you're protecting a child from predators, which is extremely important imo. A 17 year old is still a child by the law and morally.
2) you're getting her off the site, even if only temporarily until she creates a new profile, which is protecting the rest of us too.
SA removed the account I reported below immediately after I submitted the screenshot of her admitting she's 17.
SA Scale, Couldn't have written it better!
[QUOTE=Me7239;4053405]I believe the target moves depending on the type of SB you are trying to talk with. This range can vary but I believe the scale below is fairly accurate. I like to stay in the $$ per meet but I will be the first person to admit I have paid more if its someone that I really want to see. However $800 seems a little bit crazy even for me. Its one thing if you are seeing a high end provider and know what you are getting but in the SB world its a huge gamble. I typically stick to the scale below. It has worked for me in the past.
I put all SB in four groups. College 18-24, Moms 18-30, Milfs 35-45, Semi Pro. Pro.
College 18-24: Typically the hottest girls. A lot of them this is their first time in the hobby. They read an article about some girl making $2000.00 and think it will happen to them. You get lucky with some of them but most require a lot of work and hand holding to get to the finish line. These profiles also disappear the fastest. You have to jump quick. I have paid from $ - $$$.5 to meet.
Moms 18 - 30: Reality has set in on most of these girls. They have finally realized that life is hard. The girls are definitely still hot, however they are more realistic and its typically easy to talk with and set up a meet. I have paid $ - $$.
Milfs 35-45: They know what's up. Typically a meeting can be set in very little time. Typically have a place and are down to meet. I have paid between $-$$.
Semi Pro. Pro: These are the girls you know are down. You can tell by the wording in the profile / Pictures they post. Easy set up have incall and are ready to meet. You can typically find and add for them somewhere as well. I have paid between $ - $$. 5.
I like to stay in the first two groups if I can. Sometimes I get tired and a sure thing is nice. Like WreckItRight said its a moving target most times and you just need to stay where you are comfortable. I agree we should not share this info with SB. It just doesn't help us out any. The good thing is everyday there is a new group that knows nothing about the life![/QUOTE]In my on and off again 5 yr SA experience know truer picture has ever been painted so concise! If your paying more than the above mentioned rates or anymore than 2-3 months in a year for SA and can't get overwhelmed by the possibilities maybe the 4th catagory is a more realistic option for you. There is obviously some bleed over from from one category to another but from the description to the rate range it's dead on the money. Unless overpaying compensates for your lack of experience, looks, game or money is just no object, it's a great "rule of thumb" for this area of the country!
Thanks for the post Me7239.
"IF"? Obviously it's your forum, your call
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If I could step in, no it's not against the rules for some idiot to show chicks the site, we don't try and police people in their private lives.
Let me tell you what is against the rules though, starting a stupid fucking fight like this on a review thread. That's against the rules.
Let me clue you into something while I'm taking the time to write. One guy can't move the market. If one guy paid one chick 800 bills for a piece of ass it doesn't mean that everybody else is paying more. Chicks need to pay the rent every month and NONE of these hookers you guys are calling Sugar Babies have actual financial arrangements with anybody so they allways need to find new dick to suck to pay the bills and with BackPage gone finding those guys is harder. if they want some ridiculous amount say no and go fuck one of the other hookers who's calling herself a sugar baby.
If you really want to know what's driving up the prices it's evey single one of you idiots who keeps calling these hookers sugar babies instead of prostitutes. That's what's driving up the price.
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Look, I get your point but this thread is titled "Sugar Babies" and that's what at least SOME of us are looking for. I've had arrangements in the past and I'm working on one RN. A real arrangement with just one girl, or at least where SHE doesn't know I have others and she's not seeing 5-10 other doodes. The insight from reviews is good to see so I know who's doing who / what and root out what I'm looking for versus who to avoid. But Shit like a fucktard passing on reviews to piss a girl off at the guy reporting her just makes guys NOT want to put up reviews and that makes the thread less valuable to me and others. But if less reviews, therefore less views and less ad exposures / less revenue is cool with you, then by all means, get shitty with me for starting a stupid fight and let the fucktard keep doing what he's doing. . . .
The Best Group of them All
[QUOTE=TommyButt;4053523]In my on and off again 5 yr SA experience know truer picture has ever been painted so concise! If your paying more than the above mentioned rates or anymore than 2-3 months in a year for SA and can't get overwhelmed by the possibilities maybe the 4th catagory is a more realistic option for you. There is obviously some bleed over from from one category to another but from the description to the rate range it's dead on the money. Unless overpaying compensates for your lack of experience, looks, game or money is just no object, it's a great "rule of thumb" for this area of the country!
Thanks for the post Me7239.[/QUOTE]Is the 31 - 34 year old's (not previously mentioned). Hot unmarried or recently divorced, just entering their sexual prime, wanting affection and company with NSA, fuck for dinner and companionship, not really needing a lot of $, they just like sex!
New profile for Xoxoxo_xoxoxo
[QUOTE=MljThick7;4041245]I met up with Xoxoxo_xoxoxo. She is very tiny like her pics show. Probably 5 ft tall 100 lbs. Kinda in a rundown house on the Westside. Not sure I would go in the dark. She does have a female roommate but she didn't bother us. Really good BBBJ and on went the cover and she rode me cg and then doggy. She is very tight and gets very wet and creamy. I pulled out off went the cover and finished with CIM. Not too bad for $.2. I think she is a pro though. Maybe hit it again in a pinch.[/QUOTE]She's now Sugarbabiixo. Two I's. I have not met her but based on the other report indicating heavy drug use, I don't plan to.