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I saw this one on the Chicago board. It's worth a read.

[URL]http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/02/06/prostitution-sting-aided-by-bots/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jc2490;3717331]I saw this one on the Chicago board. It's worth a read.

[URL]http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/02/06/prostitution-sting-aided-by-bots/[/URL][/QUOTE]That is scary shit. I'm seriously starting to think I'm to old for this shit.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3717423]That is scary shit. I'm seriously starting to think I'm to old for this shit.[/QUOTE]It never ceases to amaze me how someone can have 200 messages in their mailbox and be unable to receive new messages oh well OFG out.

[QUOTE=OlderFunGuy;3717498]It never ceases to amaze me how someone can have 200 messages in their mailbox and be unable to receive new messages oh well OFG out.[/QUOTE]My memory sucks so I like to try and keep messages for a few days so I know who I talked to about what. I try and keep an eye on it. You and I traded like 5 messages so that's 10 (inbox and sent), I got at least 10 messages about Wendy, so that's another 20. I jumped from 170 to 200 in a matter of 4 or 5 hours. Space cleared now.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3717423]That is scary shit. I'm seriously starting to think I'm to old for this shit.[/QUOTE]Lately I've been thinking the same thing.

[QUOTE=Jc2490;3717331]I saw this one on the Chicago board. It's worth a read.

[URL]http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/02/06/prostitution-sting-aided-by-bots/[/URL][/QUOTE]Got to be ways to deal with this. For sure; one should never discuss business by voice or text. I've had text conversations where the girl asked "how much" and I refused to answer. I offered to buy her a coke at McD's to chat but she wanted a $$ commitment. I explained that it wasn't safe for either of us to have that conversation by text. She or I could have been trolling.

I think the safest way is to use the SW rules with all of them: arrange a pickup or meet at a neutral location, get her in the car and drive away before discussing business. One could be fairly well assured that she's a real person and not a decoy at that point.

[QUOTE=ZipperSquid;3717779]Lately I've been thinking the same thing.[/QUOTE]Ditto. I have been trying to think of the best way to quit. I know cold turkey won't work. Thinking I'll start with not seeing anyone new. Stick to my ATF and quit when she does? LOL.

[QUOTE=DieselMike;3717949]Got to be ways to deal with this. For sure; one should never discuss business by voice or text. I've had text conversations where the girl asked "how much" and I refused to answer. I offered to buy her a coke at McD's to chat but she wanted a $$ commitment. I explained that it wasn't safe for either of us to have that conversation by text. She or I could have been trolling.

I think the safest way is to use the SW rules with all of them: arrange a pickup or meet at a neutral location, get her in the car and drive away before discussing business. One could be fairly well assured that she's a real person and not a decoy at that point.[/QUOTE]When a provider who I have not seen before states pricing, I become skeptical, especially if it is high pressure or trying to get me to commit via text. I think it is good advice to not discuss pricing or services by text unless it is for a "massage".

[QUOTE=AngryBob;3718152]When a provider who I have not seen before states pricing, I become skeptical, especially if it is high pressure or trying to get me to commit via text. I think it is good advice to not discuss pricing or services by text unless it is for a "massage".[/QUOTE]Bot programs are pretty easy to spot they response to a answer the same way. You ask a simple question it does not know how to response. And if your agreement is for time your not doing anything illegal.

[QUOTE=HuntingStreets;3717423]That is scary shit. I'm seriously starting to think I'm to old for this shit.[/QUOTE]My feelings exactly. Been doing this for literally decades. I'm loosing my nerve and the hassle of it all has really got old.

If they want us, they will find us.

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[QUOTE=Ps1999;3718947]If they want us, they will find us.

[URL]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://insider.foxnews.com/amp/article/60162&ved=0ahUKEwjH3omaqpbZAhUh7IMKHRx1A8EQyM8BCDcwAA&usg=AOvVaw0RSxyDIRuT4uqs3nyiOwhe&ampcf=1[/URL][/QUOTE]Yup, your phone, be a burner or not, is the ultimate tracking device. Most people have no idea the amount of forensic evidence on their phone, and not just talking about GPS. That can be played good or bad, depending on what you are doing. The big question in my mind is who can access that data and under what circumstances.

[QUOTE=AngryBob;3719073]Yup, your phone, be a burner or not, is the ultimate tracking device. Most people have no idea the amount of forensic evidence on their phone, and not just talking about GPS. That can be played good or bad, depending on what you are doing. The big question in my mind is who can access that data and under what circumstances.[/QUOTE]The supreme court ruled 2 years ago that a search warrant is required to search, open, possess, delay, deny a persons cellphone including digital phone records from the service provider. If you convay to LEO give them or allow a search by permission. Basically it ruled the phone is as private from government as a abode, locked trunk, wallet, purse. To break the expectation of privacy a warrant is required. Unless of course you hand it to them give the OK or. Your deceased and they are investigating a crime or purported crime or in their duty to stop a crimes they think will happen. Just remember cops lie and its totally acceptable. But john q public can't or can be charged with "misleading" " hampering" or " provide false info". Remember the first 6 months of police academy school is perfecting the art of the lie. The "gotcha" class. That's why defense lawyers always tell you to ask for a lawyer and say nothing.

[QUOTE=ThoughtIdJoin;3719119]The supreme court ruled 2 years ago that a search warrant is required to search, open, possess, delay, deny a persons cellphone including digital phone records from the service provider. If you convay to LEO give them or allow a search by permission. Basically it ruled the phone is as private from government as a abode, locked trunk, wallet, purse. To break the expectation of privacy a warrant is required. Unless of course you hand it to them give the OK or. Your deceased and they are investigating a crime or purported crime or in their duty to stop a crimes they think will happen. Just remember cops lie and its totally acceptable. But john q public can't or can be charged with "misleading" " hampering" or " provide false info". Remember the first 6 months of police academy school is perfecting the art of the lie. The "gotcha" class. That's why defense lawyers always tell you to ask for a lawyer and say nothing.[/QUOTE]Ok, that is good to know. So if you are pulled over for some reason and your cell phone is in the car while they arrest you for whatever, they cannot go into your cell phone and read any messages or see who you have called without a warrant, even though the cell phone is in the car?

Suppose they seize the cell phone until they do get a warrant, is that legal?

[QUOTE=AngryBob;3719579]Ok, that is good to know. So if you are pulled over for some reason and your cell phone is in the car while they arrest you for whatever, they cannot go into your cell phone and read any messages or see who you have called without a warrant, even though the cell phone is in the car?

Suppose they seize the cell phone until they do get a warrant, is that legal?[/QUOTE]No they can't hold your cell I in the hopes they " might" get a warrant. If your stopped anything in plain view like a pipe bag of weed etc. That gives them cause to search and sieze. But having a cell in plain site or on your possession is not illegal. Now of you committed a crime they can hold you 24 hours. Execute warrants for your home, bank records, phone company etc. But getting pulled over for a brake light out or speeding they need a warrant. Now if a dead.