2005 Archived General Reports

Hey LV Board,
I appreciate those of you who gave me the shadow of a doubt..even if it was wrapped in "he might be dumb enough to beleive" wrapper.
Am I a shill for the club? No.
Am I a tourist? Well no camera and no sightseeing tours...but yes.
And what is up with the name? Well the purpose of anonymity is to keep keep IDs consealed. I will admit freely to being Itallian and from Atlanta and hence the name...all underworld ties are rumored and unsubstantitated in court :) LOL

All in all, I had a good time in Vegas and while I spent more money then I had planned, I had some fun. I never would have spent $500 in a strip club for something I could get at an AMP in ATL for $160....but the girl made the lapdance natsier and nastier as long as she thought it was possible.

I consider myself a true poker player, I always seem more innocent on the outside then I am on the inside.

[QUOTE=PsyberZombie]I kinda doubt it . If he was a shill for the Club , his story would have ended with him getting that FS and how it was the best lay of his life

Sounds more like he's a tourist who just barely escaped getting hosed and didn't even realize how close he came ; or how lucky he was to get out of there financially and physically un·scathed[/QUOTE]

Well, considering reactions to my first post, I am not sure i anyone even wants to read this one or not...but let me share anyway.

On our last night my buddy and I snuck out of the final late night meetings and headed to Goldrush which one of our cabbies told us was one of the sleezier places in LV. I have been in Goldrush's in Ga and Florida and had good times in both (even gotten FS in Tampa a few years ago). So we were not detered when the cabbie told us that the club was full of ugly older women.

Well we hit the club around midnight and paid the $30 door fee, we were not in the club three minutes when my buddy was grabbed by the wrist by a pretty young asian girl who wanted to sit with him. She called over her friend Mia who was a Hawaiian girl, face was cute but a bit hard like she worked out to much (a 6 in the dark light)....but her body was a strong 9. She asked me if I thought she was Chinese or japanese and when I answered Hawaiian, she really started percolating. I asked her to start dancing for me and had a good time with some strong friction lapdances that where quite interactive even if they were out in the open. After two songs I asked about VIP and she said that I should save my money because I was doing fine right here.
I kept her for five songs which ended at $100 and I have no complaints about that.
About thirty seconds after she walked off a really good looking black girl slid up to me and pushed me back into my seat and told me that she was glad to see me again. (She has a good opening line since I had never been there before). I told her I had not been there and she swore that I had been there withe the previous night. She asked me to go in the VIP room for some hotter action. She said it was $100 for 3 songs (same as Sapphire the other night) and since it was my last night I said sure.
Well the VIP there was pretty good, enough light that I knew nothing real would happen but Cheyenne was very hands and mouth on. She sucked on everything from my earlobs to nipples to crtoch. She spent a good two mintues with her mouth on my head through my jeans. She told me that she had only two rules. #1) if here nipples got near my mouth I could do whatever I wanted except bite them (not a problem since bitting is not my thing). #2) the longer I kept her, the lower south my hands could go (she seemed to forget this rule during the second song when she guided my fingers into place. By the end of our dances she asked me if we could go back to my hotel room (I thought uh oh hear comes the hard sell...no pun intended). While Cheyenne was a solid 7 face, solid 8 breats and solid 9 ass, I was not anxious to here what her room rate was. She offered to go back to my hotel room for $600 and promised to give me the softest head I had ever gotten in my life.
Now if she had offered to go back to my room for $300 I would have taken her up on it gladly...but $600...I could wait 24 more hours to get back to ATL and hit my favorite AMP almost 4 times for that.
I used the excuse that I would not want to wait for her to get off work fro the night for that (jsut to see if she offered on sight options for less) and she called my bluff and said that we could get out of the club immediately. I had to think quick and used my coworker as the excuse and promised to come back and see her the next time (whenever that is).
So I had some fund...and you local LV guys are going to call me a rube for paying what I paid...especially without getting laid...but in the end I was out $230 (5 $20 lapdances, $100 3 song VIP and $30 door) but I ahd some very erotic and stimulating lapdances from two hot ladies and I had a good time.

[QUOTE=The Don ATL]Well, considering reactions to my first post, I am not sure i anyone even wants to read this one or not...but let me share anyway..[/QUOTE]
Well, since I ragged on you earlier, this doesn't sound all that bad compared to what some guys get taken for. As long as you don't mind being used as this month's horrid educational example for not reading the information available on the board, for talking to cabbies, and worse, for actually listening to them.

[QUOTE=The Don ATL]On our last night my buddy and I snuck out of the final late night meetings and headed to Goldrush which one of our cabbies told us was one of the sleezier places in LV. I have been in Goldrush's in Ga and Florida and had good times in both (even gotten FS in Tampa a few years ago). So we were not detered when the cabbie told us that the club was full of ugly older women.

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So I had some fund...and you local LV guys are going to call me a rube for paying what I paid...especially without getting laid...but in the end I was out $230 (5 $20 lapdances, $100 3 song VIP and $30 door) but I ahd some very erotic and stimulating lapdances from two hot ladies and I had a good time.[/QUOTE]
I've never heard of it, but the fact that the driver wasn't too enthusiastic about the place is actually a relatively good sign. It means they don't pay as big a kickback as places he'd rather deliver you to, and therefore the joint might not clip you quite so hard.

Two hundred and change is close to what a casino girl would cost for full service in your hotel room if you negotiate one of their graveyard specials. You would expect to get sex for that, but I must admit that she wouldn't likely be in your room for very long, so if you feel you had two bills worth of fun for an extended tease, knowing that's what it was, then so be it.

Just please consider talking to folks other than hack drivers for recommendations in Vegas if you don't want to do some reading, say perhaps a few experienced bartenders or something, becuase the drivers do NOT have your best interests at heart whenever their lips are moving. They give "advice" driven entirely by their own private financial arrangements with the places they want to take you.

Glad you had fun with your cash.

I have visited Vegas over 100 times in my still youthful life.

I have partaken of cg's on several occasions. I have never paid more than $200. Each stayed at least 45 minutes. All of these encounters have been after 2am. I don't go with black girls...only white or latina. Easiest place to find cg's is to walk from Harrahs to Barbary Coast after 3am. Do not expect Bellagio girls to go with you for this price. They are looking for 40ish bald fat phucks willing to spend $500+. But you will find cute, attractive girls available.

As far as strip clubs, Olympic Garden used to be the place to be. No longer. Unnattractive pushy dancers. The best place is now Spearmint Rhino. Tons of hot, attractive dancers. You do not have to spend a ton either. $20 to get in. Mild contact during stage dances(press your face between thier boobs and stuff). Tip $1 per dancer and they are happy. Laps are $20. Dances range from mild friction to pretty damm hot, although without VIP, you will not get stick shift or anything. One problem is that the place is packed on Friday and Saturday. Go during a weekday if you can. There are as many as 100-200 dancers, even on weekdays.

Never, ever follow the advice of a Las Vegas cab driver.

Glad you had such a Great Time on your recent visit here , Don

.... but blowing Big Bucks for 'near misses' ain't what the Locals here are aiming for on this Board .... dig ??

Hey guys how about giving Don a break. He's pretty active in the Atlanta board and if you're ever out that way, I know he can and will point you in the right direction. I'm not a local but get to vegas at least 3 times a year. I love it there, unfortunately so does my wife so coming without her is pretty dang hard. Anyway I love following ya'lls advice and suggestions and am looking forward to trying some of it out as soon as I can get there without the SO. Well, If you ever get to Alabama, hollar at me, I post under the Huntsville, AL site, for some good recomendations or at the Don if you ever get to Atlanta I'm sure he'd be happy to do the same. One things for sure, it's generally cheaper out our way.
happy hunting.

Sorry you feel that way Zombie...but I am not reporting what i experienced in effort to appease the members of the board.
I am reporting what I did and the fact that I enjoyed it, if that makes some of you mad...then get over it.
Maybe as you explain your experiences to other in light of my expereinces, others will learn how to be more dollar thifty...maybe i can learn from the info spawned by other members in respnse to mine.
I certainly would not spend Las Vegas prices for pootang when I ahve a much more pocket friendly market in Atlanta...but for a vacation...sometimes the extra dollars arefun to spend.
Since I am a guest on the LV board, I did not report my findings to sound cool or to brag...just to share my experiences and see that we all can learn from them.
maybe in the future certain members will choose to welcome outsiders and not treat them as if they are wasting your time.
keep on mongering...

Thansk for the support GA Boy,
I don't wish to push my opinons or experiences on anyone.
I am just hear to report on a good time had and move on.
And if any of the Vegas crew makes an Atown appearance i will gladly steer them in the directions that I can.

[QUOTE=The Don ATL]And if any of the Vegas crew makes an Atown appearance i will gladly steer them in the directions that I can.[/QUOTE]

Don,

I'm sorry that I ragged on you a little but and experienced individual that apparently did not rtff was too good to pass up.

I'm glad you had fun with the lapdancers at Sapphire but we're just telling you that you could have paid for lapdancers at a strip club and then picked up some company in a casino and gotten relief both for less money that your night at Sapphire cost you.

If you rtff, the locations of available company in various casino is posted in some of the reports along with the going rate and remember when in LV do like the Las Vegans.

Stay safe,
OG

First: no beef with “The Don” intended here, and all due respect to you and your friends and anyone in your family. You had a good time, I take that at face value, glad Vegas could be of service. I don’t want to discourage anyone from posting their experience and observations, and individual tastes and budgets certainly will differ. You don't need to please anyone or be part of anyone's club to post here. There are sections of this forum (well, at least one) where you practically need to subscibe to every dot and tittle of their fevered nutcase political ideology to participate, and I hate that. But it definitely has been necessary to clarify the local situation for any newcomers to town reading about a couple of these places and the manner of finding them. For those reading these reports, please make it a priority to read this post: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=362864&postcount=260[/url] and the first page of the thread “Clip-joints, Scams, and Rip-offs” starting with post #1 BEFORE you get into a cab and ask to get taken for a ride in this town.

I hesitate to clutter up the board by keeping this matter going beyond it's useful lifespan, but I got curious about the name and did a little research on the joint(s) known as “Goldrush” favored by "The Don" from ATL. They are part of the empire of none other than the Galardi family, which will be a name immediately familiar to most locals here.

That would be the same family currently undergoing a Federally sponsored rectal examination of all it's clubs, and other, er, family business affairs, members of which are awaiting sentencing to Federal prison on multiple convictions for bribery and other good stuff, also alleged by the FBI to be associates of the Gambino crime family and awaiting trial on additional bribery, conspiracy, assault, and racketeering charges.

A lot of information connecting the dots on this chain of “family enterprises” is available in public documents, including unsealed indictments, wiretap transcripts, and trial testimony, but one of the more easily readable and briefly descriptive sources is press summary of the matter, so here are some excerpts from the San Diego Union-Tribune of August 28, 2003:

“The 72-year-old Galardi has since traded the glitzy Las Vegas social scene for Atlanta, where he spends most of his time and owns a home and the Crazy Horse, Goldrush, Masters and Pink Pony strip clubs. He is also chief executive officer of Miss Nude Atlanta Inc.”

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“Even before the raids at their clubs, both Galardis had caught the attention of law enforcement. The younger Galardi was pursuing a plan to open another strip club in Las Vegas in 2000, to be called the Gold Club.”

“During the permitting process, Las Vegas police suspected it was more than a coincidence that a similar club in Atlanta by the same name – one of the most successful and high-profile strip clubs on the East Coast – was at the center of a sensational federal investigation alleging prostitution and ties to the Gambino crime family.”

“Steve Kaplan, owner of the Atlanta Gold Club, was accused of using dancers to provide sexual favors to star athletes Patrick Ewing of the NBA and others, cheating credit-card customers and funneling profits to the Gambino crime family in New York. In January 2002, Kaplan pleaded guilty to a single racketeering count and was sentenced to 16 months in prison.”

“Las Vegas police requested about $10,000 from the Clark County Commission to send investigators to Atlanta to investigate Michael Galardi and his father, who was rumored to be the subject of a federal grand jury probe in Atlanta.“

“At the time, the Galardis' attorney denied there was any connection between the clubs, and the Las Vegas cops were denied their travel request by some of the same politicians now targeted in the corruption probe.”

[End of quote]

I remember the Gold Club case pretty well. It seems, among other things, that some customers took offense when they got their credit card statements and discovered that they’d been billed twenty-thousand dollars for a lap dance and drink. It’s been several years since the family was forced to close the Gold Club, due in part to credit card scams they ran on their customers, but that kind of sticks in your mind, you know.

As long as the FBI’s proctology exam of these “family connected” clubs continues, and they no doubt have more wires and surveillance devices planted in them than the counting room at Caesar’s Palace, I’d estimate the likelihood of getting any action inside at this time to be, oh, how about roughly ZERO percent, or something less than that. Maybe you could have got something in one of these joints several years ago, before they were caught buying local governments and stomping the bleeding bejesus out of customers, but now? Only if you fancy the kind of “action” that can be had while everyone knows that an alphabet soup of uniformed government officials (FBI, IRS, DEA, ATF, US-DOJ, etc.) is a constant audience taking carefully detailed notes on how often you pick your nose inside.

If someone manages to find a good time of some sort inside one of these “family” establishments at a price he’s willing to accept, well then more power to you, good luck, and hats off for scamming the scammers right under the noses of enough eavesdropping law enforcement officials to invade a small country. However, for my part, I won’t be running a bar tab there, or handing them my credit card any time soon.

I’m not a connoisseur of nudie bars, but I believe Speck’s brief description of a few of the alternatives among high end joints that cater to tourists who stay in the Strip resorts is probably well informed.

Caveat emptor y‘all, for what it’s worth to ya.

W

P.S. Oh yes, I found this reference to charitable endeavors heartwarming, and the phrase “consolidating (their) business” amusing. Always a good idea to get “consolidated” and charitable before your sentencing hearing for a stretch in the slammer. It’s from Dun & Bradstreet (Hoover’s) which evaluates the stability of businesses for lenders and suppliers who may be about to extend credit. [url]http://www.hoovers.com/galardi-south/--ID__117372--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml[/url]

And for anyone with an appetite for more extensive reading and research on the Galardi strip club scam saga, here’s a place with a few tidbits to get you started. A link to no less than 146 articles on the matter as it has unfolded locally over the past three years: [url]http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/galardi/[/url]

[QUOTE=Wastrel]“Las Vegas police requested about $10,000 from the Clark County Commission to send investigators to Atlanta to investigate Michael Galardi and his father, who was rumored to be the subject of a federal grand jury probe in Atlanta.“[/QUOTE]

"OOOH! CAN I GO SARGE??? HUH? PLEASE?!!! PLEASE SARGE?!!!"

[QUOTE=Cienega32]"OOOH! CAN I GO SARGE??? HUH? PLEASE?!!! PLEASE SARGE?!!!"[/QUOTE]
No, you can't; you've been a naughty boy.

But later, after the Federal indictments and all the political and legal heat, they apparently did get approval to go have some fun in Florida:

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Las Vegas police made several trips to Galardi's out-of-state clubs to investigate in 2004. From a visit to the Gold Rush Show Club in Tampa, detectives offered this anecdote:

"As we walked in the business, a female entertainer, 'Bobbie' walked up to the female undercover LVMPD detective and myself and grabbed the female undercover LVMPD detective's left breast and my right pectoral through our clothing as she exclaimed 'Wahoo!' "

The detectives agreed to a private dance with Bobbie, according to the report.

"Bobbie faced me as I was seated and used both hands to continuously grab my penis and testicles through my pants. Bobbie put her head between my legs and used her mouth and chin to rub on my penis through my pants," the report states.

[End Quote]

Of course this later request for official lap dance money became an offer the Clark County Comissioners couldn't refuse, since the majority of the Board had just been caught on tape taking payoffs from Galardi's bagman, who by the way, was a former Metro cop.

Now, could they please just remember to also quote us the prices in these press accounts of the police party, ah, investigation?

But since your request for an official southern stripper tour subsidy has been denied, you can console yourself looking at this (not connected to the Galardi mess):

"Okay, Girls. Line Up For Your Mug Shots"
"Lunchtime raids net 15 strippers in Tampa-area clubs"
[url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0729051strip1.html[/url]

It includes some nice looking mug shots. It also includes actual copies of a few of the ladies' police reports, including prices paid and exactly what the officer got for that, which I find quite helpful. For example, this cutie: [url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0729051strip8.html[/url] apparently was paid a total of about a hundred bucks for your basic high friction lap dance, according to page 2 of her police report: [url]http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0729051strip8b.html[/url]

Looks like about two or three of the fifteen ladies take a good enough picture that they could come to Vegas to work the casinos on the Strip if they're short of rent money after making bail. Or to Wastrel's house. But not for a C-note per lap dance.

Whew, Wastrel with the Woodward and Bernstein action. (some of you young mongers may not get the refernce LOL)
Damn...nice research...if I worked half as hard in college I might ahve been able to afford the Skybox experience and then I would have learned the hard way about getting tossed out of the clubs for asking too much.

I will be honest...I am not in any way affliated with teh Galardi family....as an Itlaian I beleive that we should all support "family" activities...but being from Georgia makes it kind of hard to network in and get made...guess I will stick with my Sopranos episodes on DVD,

I need to borrow Indydave's Crown Vic to get one of these special discounts. From today's R-J:

Officer faces sex charges

Police say woman sought to avoid arrest

Las Vegas police arrested one of their own Tuesday, saying a downtown patrol officer let a woman avoid jail in exchange for oral sex.

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According to an arrest report, Ortega was patrolling the area of Charleston Boulevard and Mojave Road about 2 a.m. on Sept. 27 when he noticed the woman walking nearby.

The woman, who has a history of prostitution, told police she was out to buy cigarettes and drugs, the report said. [Dumb girl]

Ortega searched the woman and found a small amount of marijuana and a pipe, the report said. He arrested her and headed to the Las Vegas Detention Center while she pleaded with him not to arrest her, the report said.

Before reaching the jail, Ortega stopped his patrol car to complete some paperwork.

While the car was stopped, the woman asked if he would release her in exchange for oral sex, the report said.

Ortega agreed and drove to a secluded commercial area, where the woman gave him oral sex, the report said.

After she was freed, the woman called a friend for a ride home.

The woman "said she did not call the police because she did not view this incident as anything but a 'cost of doing business,' " the report said.

Police learned the woman's story that afternoon when they responded to her home for a 911 hang-up call.

In an interview with investigators, Ortega did not deny receiving oral sex. [Dumb officer]

He said he was going to release the woman so he could respond to a high-priority call, but when he freed her she grabbed his genitals and said she wanted to thank him for letting her go, the report said. [Dumber officer by the minute]

"Your emotions get in the way," Ortega said, according to the report. "She grabbed me and, you know, um, my wife's been out of town. I haven't had sex in a few days and it just happened." [Really spectacularly dumb officer, apparently attempting to win the lame story of the year award. What part of the Miranda rights warning card he carries in his pocket every day can't he read?]

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The article continues with a recap of other incidents of Metro officers receiving this sort of discount service:

[url]http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2005/Oct-05-Wed-2005/news/3692777.html[/url]

This is so typical here in Vegas. The freakin scene is wide open for everyone.
I almost got shot last year on Mojave and Charleston. Be very careful.
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