Massage Parlor Reports

I told myself that I wouldn't do it again, but I caved in and went to see Carli at her new location west of Otsego. Half assed rub down with a BBBJCIM finish. What was even stranger than usual was that she had her nipples taped up and refused to let my hands roam freely. Paid the. 80 and left. I am always looking for something better but haven't been able to find it, if she would put more into the massage it would improve the whole experience.

[url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-taste-of-heaven-massage-and-tan/8035038[/url]

Saw Kay this week. Cute, short and very sweet. On the youngish side for this parlor. Nice naturals. She's got a great figure from behind. Unlike some of the other ladies from this establishment she doesn't play that "too big." game. Definitely a repeat.

[QUOTE=Spongebob357; 1399157]I told myself that I wouldn't do it again, but I caved in and went to see Carli at her new location west of Otsego. Half assed rub down with a BBBJCIM finish. What was even stranger than usual was that she had her nipples taped up and refused to let my hands roam freely. Paid the. 80 and left. I am always looking for something better but haven't been able to find it, if she would put more into the massage it would improve the whole experience.

[url]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-taste-of-heaven-massage-and-tan/8035038[/url][/QUOTE]Well, as long as you keep returning she really does not need to change her product does she? She has been in the game for a very long time, she knows how to act to keep her "sexy guys" crawling back for more.

[QUOTE=Enigma3;1400906]Well, as long as you keep returning she really does not need to change her product does she? She has been in the game for a very long time, she knows how to act to keep her "sexy guys" crawling back for more.[/QUOTE]Once again you are right, don't rub it in. All to often I think with the wrong head.

Anybody ever try Lisa who ads on Backpage for body rubs in Kzoo?

[QUOTE=Jackietreehorn;1412610]Anybody ever try Lisa who ads on Backpage for body rubs in Kzoo?[/QUOTE]Yes. Look under Craigslist for a couple of reviews of her.

Can't seem to find any reviews?

[QUOTE=Jackietreehorn;1414093]Can't seem to find any reviews?[/QUOTE]I know I wrote a couple, but they are under Craigslist Kalamazoo. I can add one to it. A few weeks ago, I made an appointment for an evening. It had been over a year since I met her and that last time was an appointment that she cancelled on me because she wouldn't answer the door.

I called and set an appointment for two days later. She said to call and confirm an hour before. I did but there was no answer. I drove by the house and saw that lights were on and saw someone walking around. So I went to the door, confident that she would be ready. When I rang the bell, a guy came to the door and looked out at me through the glazed glass. He did not open the door. Soon Lisa came to the door and answered it and asked what I wanted. I said that we had an appointment. She said she had nothing written down.

Think lady. Am I going to come to your door and PRETEND I have an appointment! So, all I could do is walk away. She said call her, but I never did. My guess is that her boyfriend (assuming he is one) was there and she couldn't do an appointment. Or she really forgot.

So while I have had three great times with her two years ago, this last time was a dealbreaker. I would never see her again.

Great massage for 70 and an he for the same. Total is 130 or 140. ANything more is even costlier. If I remember, she would offer FS for 300 an hour.

After I left, I went to the store and used much of this money that Lisa would have gotten for something I have always wanted. I realized then that I waste alot of money that could better be used.

[QUOTE=Macatawa; 1414251]I know I wrote a couple, but they are under Craigslist Kalamazoo. I can add one to it. A few weeks ago, I made an appointment for an evening. It had been over a year since I met her and that last time was an appointment that she cancelled on me because she wouldn't answer the door.

I called and set an appointment for two days later. She said to call and confirm an hour before. I did but there was no answer. I drove by the house and saw that lights were on and saw someone walking around. So I went to the door, confident that she would be ready. When I rang the bell, a guy came to the door and looked out at me through the glazed glass. He did not open the door. Soon Lisa came to the door and answered it and asked what I wanted. I said that we had an appointment. She said she had nothing written down.

Think lady. Am I going to come to your door and PRETEND I have an appointment! So, all I could do is walk away. She said call her, but I never did. My guess is that her boyfriend (assuming he is one) was there and she couldn't do an appointment. Or she really forgot.

So while I have had three great times with her two years ago, this last time was a dealbreaker. I would never see her again.

Great massage for 70 and an he for the same. Total is 130 or 140. ANything more is even costlier. If I remember, she would offer FS for 300 an hour.

After I left, I went to the store and used much of this money that Lisa would have gotten for something I have always wanted. I realized then that I waste alot of money that could better be used.[/QUOTE]Is this regarding this lisa? [url]http://kalamazoo.backpage.com/BodyRubs/awaken-all-of-your-senses-you-deserve-a-blissful-massage-by-lisa-30/8035322[/url]

70 for the handshake? Jebus, I hope she's got some oral skills or something for that price. I appreciate the heads up.

[QUOTE=Necrochaos; 1414875]Is this regarding this lisa?

[url]http://kalamazoo.backpage.com/BodyRubs/awaken-all-of-your-senses-you-deserve-a-blissful-massage-by-lisa-30/8035322[/url]

70 for the handshake? Jebus, I hope she's got some oral skills or something for that price. I appreciate the heads up.[/QUOTE]Yes, that is her. And no, it includes no oral. She is expensive. While her massage IS good, her extras are costly.

In the past she would do FS for 300. Don't know if she does now.

Any new info on new girls, thiner, smaller or younger girls here. Last time I went everyone seemed busy and I got an older lady. It was about 2 months ago and I can't quite remember her name.

[QUOTE=Macatawa; 1415017]Yes, that is her. And no, it includes no oral. She is expensive. While her massage IS good, her extras are costly.

In the past she would do FS for 300. Don't know if she does now.[/QUOTE]I know this is not a primary concern for Macatawa. But for others, Lisa has gained a lot of weight, to the extent that it affects the face pic which is in no way current. Again, nice gal. But, she's heavy and expensive.

Decided to check out TLC earlier this week. Asked Mamasan for Michelle and was told "she on vacation, be back in two weeks". She could sense my disappointment, but said "have new girl". Still, not showing much excitement, she says "won't know unless you try". Good Point. In walks "Candy". WOW. Hot, little spicy number. Slim, firm be's. Only 1/2 hour massages available, so standard. 4. Massage is quite good. Candy kept brushing up against the boys, so I figured this would get better. Before the flip, we decide on "everything". I offer $, she counters with $$. I just chuckle. We settle on $.60. Guess she won that one. Anyway, great CBJ. 69, cfs (extremely tight giner and multiple positions) and finished Russian. COB. Which surprised me that she was OK with that. I'm a somewhat AMP newbie, and from past experiences, these little Asians always seem to keep things squeaky clean, so was surprised that she'd let me unload on her chest. She's from NY and had only been there 3 days.

Again guys, I'm new to this hobby. I get it that us guys need to contribute before we get the "good stuff". Had an awesome time with Candy, will absolutely repeat.

[QUOTE=Macatawa; 1415017]Yes, that is her. And no, it includes no oral. She is expensive. While her massage IS good, her extras are costly.

In the past she would do FS for 300. Don't know if she does now.[/QUOTE]My experience with her was same; massage was good (60@hr Then) ; she wanted another 40 for HE; for FS, she wanted 300; that was over a year ago; not sure if anything has changed.

Thanks for the report. I may have to check her out in spite of my promise to save the $$ 'til Michele returns.

[QUOTE=SpartanMan; 1419097]Decided to check out TLC earlier this week. Asked Mamasan for Michelle and was told "she on vacation, be back in two weeks". She could sense my disappointment, but said "have new girl". Still, not showing much excitement, she says "won't know unless you try". Good Point. In walks "Candy". WOW. Hot, little spicy number. Slim, firm be's. Only 1/2 hour massages available, so standard. 4. Massage is quite good. Candy kept brushing up against the boys, so I figured this would get better. Before the flip, we decide on "everything". I offer $, she counters with $$. I just chuckle. We settle on $.60. Guess she won that one. Anyway, great CBJ. 69, cfs (extremely tight giner and multiple positions) and finished Russian. COB. Which surprised me that she was OK with that. I'm a somewhat AMP newbie, and from past experiences, these little Asians always seem to keep things squeaky clean, so was surprised that she'd let me unload on her chest. She's from NY and had only been there 3 days.

Again guys, I'm new to this hobby. I get it that us guys need to contribute before we get the "good stuff". Had an awesome time with Candy, will absolutely repeat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Alwazvice;1423328]Thanks for the report. I may have to check her out in spite of my promise to save the $$ 'til Michele returns.[/QUOTE]Had the pleasure of Candy, I like her better than Michelle, all together $.40 Very nice girl, very talkative. Everything was covered. Will repeat. Not as wild as Micki in Lansing, but closer and better looking.

Is that the place south by Wings? Where is the location?

I might have to come down from GR to experience Candy.

[QUOTE=HuggableGuy;1424746]Had the pleasure of Candy, I like her better than Michelle, all together $.40 Very nice girl, very talkative. Everything was covered. Will repeat. Not as wild as Micki in Lansing, but closer and better looking.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up on this one. Had a great time with her. Very pretty face. Nice thin figure with man mades. Very willing to please and takes care of you. $.60 all in. Definitely prefer to Michele.

[QUOTE=Kazoomick;1427171]Thanks for the heads up on this one. Had a great time with her. Very pretty face. Nice thin figure with man mades. Very willing to please and takes care of you. $.60 all in. Definitely prefer to Michele.[/QUOTE]Candy is a little gem but $.6 is a bit too much for such a short time like they rush you out at AMPs.

She is indeed a treat. I gave her an extra tip as my half hour lasted about 50 minutes and in addition to a great massage and table shower I had nearly every desire satisfied during that time. Worth it? Yes. Repeat? Unsure based on cost; I have a limited play budget.

[QUOTE=Zensual;1428328]Candy is a little gem but $.6 is a bit too much for such a short time like they rush you out at AMPs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SpartanMan;1419097]Again guys, I'm new to this hobby. I get it that us guys need to contribute before we get the "good stuff". Had an awesome time with Candy, will absolutely repeat.[/QUOTE]Ty Sparty for the heads up with Candy. I had a visit today with Candy. There has been a comparison made between Candy and Mikki from Lansing, so let me give you my opinion.

Candy is cuter and most likely younger than the 58 whyear old Mikki.

Both girls very petite, I'd say Candy slightly smaller in size weighing around 100 pounds.

Both girls offer FS. Candy covered and bb available from Mikki if you into that.

If you're looking for a rockin' FS, no limit experience, Mikki wins hands down.

Candy has a softer look, touch, and body type. Mikki more aggressive and forward.

No kissing and a few limits with Candy / No limits I have found with Mikki.

Outlay was same for both ($.6) Candy 30 min / Mikki 1 hour.

Overall I had a great time especially seeing this was my first visit with Candy. Would I repeat? Prolly not, Mikki closer and more my type for FS. I would recommend Candy, she's a sweet girl.

BTW, my Candy experience included, massage, CBJ, ccg. 69, see doggie, and a cmish finish. Total outlay $.6/30 min.

Gl, play safe.

Thanks to Sparty (SpartanMan) for his contribution here

No problem. Just glad that I'm finally able to contribute.

I agree. Micki is fabulous, especially if you're looking for a more PSE experience. I left thoroughly exhausted last time I visited the Islands. Hard to believe she's 58.

Making another visit to TLC today. I'll report back if there's anything different.

[QUOTE=Asianplvr; 1429949]Ty Sparty for the heads up with Candy. I had a visit today with Candy. There has been a comparison made between Candy and Mikki from Lansing, so let me give you my opinion.

Candy is cuter and most likely younger than the 58 whyear old Mikki.

Both girls very petite, I'd say Candy slightly smaller in size weighing around 100 pounds.

Both girls offer FS. Candy covered and bb available from Mikki if you into that.

If you're looking for a rockin' FS, no limit experience, Mikki wins hands down.

Candy has a softer look, touch, and body type. Mikki more aggressive and forward.

No kissing and a few limits with Candy / No limits I have found with Mikki.

Outlay was same for both ($.6) Candy 30 min / Mikki 1 hour.

Overall I had a great time especially seeing this was my first visit with Candy. Would I repeat? Prolly not, Mikki closer and more my type for FS. I would recommend Candy, she's a sweet girl.

BTW, my Candy experience included, massage, CBJ, ccg. 69, see doggie, and a cmish finish. Total outlay $.6/30 min.

Gl, play safe.

Thanks to Sparty (SpartanMan) for his contribution here[/QUOTE]

Had another visit with CandyatTLC. Word has definitely gotten out. It's mid-afternoon. 3 cars in the lot already. Mamassan tells me theres a 30 minute wait. Ugh. Decide to wait it out. Another customer shows up and gets turned away.

Anyway, the good news is that the session was better than the first. Bad news is that she tells me she's here for only 2 months. Guys, hop in the car and visit Candy before she's gone.

[QUOTE=SpartanMan; 1430933]Had another visit with CandyatTLC. Word has definitely gotten out. It's mid-afternoon. 3 cars in the lot already. Mamassan tells me theres a 30 minute wait. Ugh. Decide to wait it out. Another customer shows up and gets turned away.

Anyway, the good news is that the session was better than the first. Bad news is that she tells me she's here for only 2 months. Guys, hop in the car and visit Candy before she's gone.[/QUOTE]I want to give it a go but have a lack of free time

Sorry fellow mongers, but this is not a report but a request. I am looking for a massage provider that will give me a great massage and of course a happy ending. I am looking for a woman who knows how to be sensual and tease, and that will spend the entire hour. PM me if you prefer.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Spongebob357; 1452467]Sorry fellow mongers, but this is not a report but a request. I am looking for a massage provider that will give me a great massage and of course a happy ending. I am looking for a woman who knows how to be sensual and tease, and that will spend the entire hour. PM me if you prefer.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I would like to know of someone like that too.

[QUOTE=Spongebob357; 1452467]Sorry fellow mongers, but this is not a report but a request. I am looking for a massage provider that will give me a great massage and of course a happy ending. I am looking for a woman who knows how to be sensual and tease, and that will spend the entire hour. PM me if you prefer.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I hear Disney can do some amazing things with animatronics.

Had a dream that I saw "Jessica" at the TLC spa.

4 to the house for hh. I got a nice dry massage. It was much better than the drowning in lotion kind that I'm used to.

She was likely late 30's with a perky set on her. Pretty sure they are real.

On the flip, I laid out. 6 to get me a nice ending with her taking off some items to get more comfortable. She had very skilled hands and I walked out happy.

I was told that more is available if I come back.

I think I would return. It was a very good dream.

Just curious if there has been any activity around TLC. Haven't seen an update for a while.

Anyone know who is working there this cycle?

It seems like theres not much action on here lately just wanted to see what was up with TLC these days. I'm new to this whole thing and wanted to know if its better to go there or just get an escort.

[QUOTE=Primetime2430;1489557]It seems like theres not much action on here lately just wanted to see what was up with TLC these days. I'm new to this whole thing and wanted to know if its better to go there or just get an escort.[/QUOTE]Sorry it has been a while. I went a few weeks ago to see if candy was there. No Candy. New girl.

Asked for 1hour she said no. 1/2 hour.

She seemed pissed or scared somehow. She said her name was Monica. I wanted shower she said no shower.

She started to massage my back and I asked her her name again and she gave me a different name.

On the flip (I was drapped) she started normal massage and with poor acting, she knocked the towel off and brushed across the boys. She said "sorry" to which I said it was ok. She pointed and said "you like?" I said yes. She said you want more? Duh.

She said 140 for everything. I said I had only 120 and that is what Candy charged. She said ok and I waited while she went somewhere. I mean to the point I almost got up and dressed.

She came in and started with a CBJ then cowgirl the doggie then mish. I again apologized and asked her name and this time she said Laura. I called her out on her name changing and she said it was Laura for real. I don't know who I did to be honest. She did get more fun and relaxed after we started. Maybe she thought I was Leo.

On the good side of the equation. I was there got about 1 1/2 hours and paid the house for half.

Saving my money for a return to either tlc or Hawaii.

Be safe ya'll

[QUOTE=PrimeTime2430;1489557]It seems like theres not much action on here lately just wanted to see what was up with TLC these days. I'm new to this whole thing and wanted to know if its better to go there or just get an escort.[/QUOTE]I'm usually on the Indiana boards, but I had some recent experience in Michigan, so I thought I'd post here instead. I thought as you did, and had actually made an appointment with an escort (Katie. 269-492-43xx, moderator please remove if this is not allowed) who ended up doing a cash and dash on me. I can give you details about that if you want, but that's a separate story. So, since I was ready to go, I decided to try TLC and see if I had better luck. First visit was similar to HuggableGuy's report. Asked for an hour, was told only 1/2 hr. Girl couldn't seem to make up her mind what her name was, gave me 2 different names, then decided on Candy. Ended up staying for about an hour total, with shower, nice massage, and extra services. Lovely lady, nice (enhanced) chest, tight, tiny butt, etc. Great time for me, don't know about her. I probably overpaid, as I offered what is usual at the place I go in Indiana (Sun Spa, Michigan City). She took it without any negotiation, which leads me to think I overpaid.

So, later that afternoon, after I win some money at the casino, I decided to go back for seconds. Candy was busy, so I see Jessica (only name she used). Softer massage, but more thorough, even completed massage after the extras were done. Same issue with tip, I guess I overpaid again. Not as cute (to me anyway) , natural chest, nice curves, still quite attractive. Ended up there nearly an hour again.

Far as I can tell, TLC is a good place to return.

[QUOTE=EggHead2; 1498463]I'm usually on the Indiana boards, but I had some recent experience in Michigan, so I thought I'd post here instead. I thought as you did, and had actually made an appointment with an escort (Katie. 269-492-43xx, moderator please remove if this is not allowed) who ended up doing a cash and dash on me. I can give you details about that if you want, but that's a separate story. So, since I was ready to go, I decided to try TLC and see if I had better luck. First visit was similar to HuggableGuy's report. Asked for an hour, was told only 1/2 hr. Girl couldn't seem to make up her mind what her name was, gave me 2 different names, then decided on Candy. Ended up staying for about an hour total, with shower, nice massage, and extra services. Lovely lady, nice (enhanced) chest, tight, tiny butt, etc. Great time for me, don't know about her. I probably overpaid, as I offered what is usual at the place I go in Indiana (Sun Spa, Michigan City). She took it without any negotiation, which leads me to think I overpaid.

So, later that afternoon, after I win some money at the casino, I decided to go back for seconds. Candy was busy, so I see Jessica (only name she used). Softer massage, but more thorough, even completed massage after the extras were done. Same issue with tip, I guess I overpaid again. Not as cute (to me anyway) , natural chest, nice curves, still quite attractive. Ended up there nearly an hour again.

Far as I can tell, TLC is a good place to return.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a pretty decent trip here to Michigan. Thought maybe Candy moved on, she had told me she was leaving. Nice to know she still there.

Okay I made the trip to TLC today for the first time, and wasnt even offered any extras. Is it because that was my first time and they were a little standoffish? Or am I supposed to

Initiate it? Also, I drive an old crown vic, could they have thought I was a cop? I need some help here guys!

[QUOTE=Asianplvr;1499103]Sounds like a pretty decent trip here to Michigan. Thought maybe Candy moved on, she had told me she was leaving. Nice to know she still there.[/QUOTE]I can confirm Candy has returned. The other girl there right now is a moon faced thick Chinese girl. So, wouldn't recommend going in with a car in the lot, unless that's your type.

Stopped by TLC the other day. Greeted by girl who called herself 'Jay'. Of course she asks if I've been there before, followed by who did you see? I tell her yes, Hannah, and Sarah. (Ok, for those new, if you ttff, you can put the girl at ease if you are ready with names). She tells me only half hour is available, maybe more if no other customer shows up (this is why when you see a monger is already inside and you have the time, give him a break and drive around the block-maybe twice). I pay and ask for a TS, she agrees.

After the TS and we return to room, she tells me her name is Candy. The lights go off and I wished I had more money on me! (see earlier reports about this girl) After a pathetic massage she asks what I want. I point to her mouth. We negotiate, she leaves and comes back. After CBJ and a little Russian, I ask if I can cum on her (again see earlier reports about this girl). She agrees. I remove the cover and let go on her breast. After we clean up she tells me now that she 'knows me', next time I will get the 'upgrade'. Can't wait. I just wish that more of these girls could give a half decent massage! Have fun, EZ.

Prime,

Losing the Crown Vic might be a good start. Here are a few other hints that might help you find what you are looking for in "the hobby".

Dirty.

1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.

2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.

3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times, ' have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.

3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.

3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!

3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.

3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.

4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.

5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.

Generally you will find that Asian massage parlors are very honest, and you don't have to be as careful with your possessions as with 'other' massage parlor providers. Not trying to be racist here, but my experience (after 25+ years) in this hobby proves that to be true.

6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.

7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.

Revision 1: A mamasan once told me: Cops won't shower. The level of vulnerability is way too high. No badge. No gun. No wire. It's just too risky. I am sure there have been exceptions, but by taking a shower, you really help put them all at ease, not to mention your provider, who will just be happy you are clean.

8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.

9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.

10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.

11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.

12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.

13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.

14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.

15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.

16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.

17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.

18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.

This is just based on my experience in AMPs over the last 30+ years, as well as some tips I've picked up from other hobby mongers. If you have some additional helpful hints, please add them to the list. It will help all of us who are in the 'hobby'.

[QUOTE=PrimeTime2430; 1506031]Okay I made the trip to TLC today for the first time, and wasnt even offered any extras. Is it because that was my first time and they were a little standoffish? Or am I supposed to

Initiate it? Also, I drive an old crown vic, could they have thought I was a cop? I need some help here guys![/QUOTE]

Hey, thanks for that. A great AMP primer. Looks similar to a few others I've seen, but with your own personal touches. If you don't mind, I might repost this in some other cities' forums (Lansing, etc.).

[QUOTE=Dirty Old Guy;1511852]Here are a few other hints that might help you find what you are looking for in "the hobby".[/QUOTE]

Twisted,

Post it wherever you think it might do some good, and add any tips that you think might be helpful.

Dirty.

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1514716]Hey, thanks for that. A great AMP primer. Looks similar to a few others I've seen, but with your own personal touches. If you don't mind, I might repost this in some other cities' forums (Lansing, etc.).[/QUOTE]

Hi Mongers!

I was in town, and decided to get some special attention at TLC, too bad it was anything but! I started off by having the House mom give me only a half an hour due to one girl working there on a holiday weekend, the girl tried to upsell and would squeeze her legs tight when wanted a box lunch, kept saying five minutes in,"Are we done yet?", due to the guy next store, and kept saying hurry up, when had fifteen minutes left on a half an hour, when doing the deed. I even got rush when I went to leak by the house mom! Avoid this place at all costs, I know I will. Gave $17 for shit service all the way around, and no massage.