OPSEC. Operattional Security

[QUOTE=RudyWellz;6493887]I do not, but wish I did. DC Urban Moms and Dads has a non-explicit Relationship Forum. They previously had an explicit Relationship Forum which was perfect, but closed it.

What you are embarking on can be the best situation. Mutual attraction and sex with little or no sugar funds. Enjoy. To your questions below, I protect my SO (wife) at all costs. As you have figured out, easy to separate your SB's from your SO. I've had a few Affair Partners and they all knew me IRL, my real phone number, and understood that I am married and not trying to change that status. And none of them knew about my life in the Sugar Bowl. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I came here because IDK anywhere else on this site that is relevant. I am not in the DMV area at all, I just came across this thread because I was visiting DC on business recently.

I could not agree more, when you are committed to staying married but also need to have a side piece, it is possible to respect the marriage and the SO.

I appreciate your saying not to tell an affair partner about sugaring. Of course. I would also say, though, that the experience I got from sugaring is standing me in good stead in developing a relationship w / this girl.

Completely random but my OCD is getting the best of me. Can an admin remove the extra "t" in operational on the thread title?

I saw a news report that teenagers are choosing to go back to flip phones. Later, I asked a "burner phone" employee if this was true. He confirmed that he had seen an increase of teens and young adults choosing flip phones over smart phones because they are harder to track.

I confirmed this again with a T Mobile employee who explained that flip phones don't have SIM cards so they ARE harder to track and easier to hide. Proved it by pulling out her Nokia phone from back pocket, even though she had been using smartphone to call activation center.

Point being. Ditch the smartphone burners and get a flip phone to stay more anonymous.

[QUOTE=RickNva;6494486]I saw a news report that teenagers are choosing to go back to flip phones. Later, I asked a "burner phone" employee if this was true. He confirmed that he had seen an increase of teens and young adults choosing flip phones over smart phones because they are harder to track.

I confirmed this again with a T Mobile employee who explained that flip phones don't have SIM cards so they ARE harder to track and easier to hide. Proved it by pulling out her Nokia phone from back pocket, even though she had been using smartphone to call activation center.

Point being. Ditch the smartphone burners and get a flip phone to stay more anonymous.[/QUOTE]What exactly does this help avoid for mongers? I mean, the NSA could track my burner I guess, but that isn't my big worry. I can't go back to the days where texting a C meant hitting the 1 key 3 times. And what are these youngsters worried about that they need to avoid tracking?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6494664]What exactly does this help avoid for mongers? I mean, the NSA could track my burner I guess, but that isn't my big worry. I can't go back to the days where texting a C meant hitting the 1 key 3 times. And what are these youngsters worried about that they need to avoid tracking?[/QUOTE]1. No SIM card so LEO can't track you by you phone number that provider has on her phone.

2. Smaller and more durable than a smartphone so you can hide it easier from significant other or other prying eyes. Fold it up, toss it in back of glove or tool box, no screen to crack when it bangs into something else.

3. They cost less and easier on wallet to replace. 3 b. Plans for flip phones are still buy the minutes vs flat rate each month regardless of how much you use it.

But if hitting the 1 key three times to get to the "C," is too inconvenient then stick with what you have.

I'm not saying this is a game changer for mongers, just something to consider when buying your next burner phone.

[QUOTE=RickNva;6494922]1. No SIM card so LEO can't track you by you phone number that provider has on her phone.

I'm not saying this is a game changer for mongers, just something to consider when buying your next burner phone.[/QUOTE]Can anyone cite any example of LE anywhere in the US of using this sort of phone info to nail someone who has seen an escort? Isn't LE mostly worried about those who offend the community, I. E, streetwalkers and massage parlors?

As I was reading this thread, I wonder if there's different motivation for phone technology depending on what "pool" you play in. Obviously, those mongers into escorts and massage parlors my have different secrecy requirements (from LEO) than those who play in the sugar bowl where anonymity from a pregnant or crazy SB is the goal.

I play in the sugar bowl, use TextMe on my smart phone (not a burner) and have no problems whatsoever. The warden is not technology savvy, so there's little risk of her picking up the phone and finding the TextMe app. Also, I have the security set such that my password is required to open the phone after 1 minute of inactivity. Have often thought about getting a burner phone, but not sure how I'd explain it's existence should it be found.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6494940]Can anyone cite any example of LE anywhere in the US of using this sort of phone info to nail someone who has seen an escort? Isn't LE mostly worried about those who offend the community, I. E, streetwalkers and massage parlors?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6495105]As I was reading this thread, I wonder if there's different motivation for phone technology depending on what "pool" you play in. Obviously, those mongers into escorts and massage parlors my have different secrecy requirements (from LEO) than those who play in the sugar bowl where anonymity from a pregnant or crazy SB is the goal.

I play in the sugar bowl, use TextMe on my smart phone (not a burner) and have no problems whatsoever. The warden is not technology savvy, so there's little risk of her picking up the phone and finding the TextMe app. Also, I have the security set such that my password is required to open the phone after 1 minute of inactivity. Have often thought about getting a burner phone, but not sure how I'd explain it's existence should it be found.[/QUOTE]No need for flip phones, I second the use of VOIP apps like TextMe. Tossed my flip phone years ago and have been on TextFree for years without issues.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;6495429]No need for flip phones, I second the use of VOIP apps like TextMe. Tossed my flip phone years ago and have been on TextFree for years without issues.[/QUOTE]Textnow has worked well for me. I never needed a flip phone.

[QUOTE=KidFarian;6496537]Textnow has worked well for me. I never needed a flip phone.[/QUOTE]I am a google voice fan. I can get onto a browser and text, that means I never have to have my phone at home (for texting).

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6496706]I am a google voice fan. I can get onto a browser and text, that means I never have to have my phone at home (for texting).[/QUOTE]For those of you in the Sugar Daddy game, how are you handling any video call meetings that some of these broads as for at times?

[QUOTE=AnonDemon69;6497641]For those of you in the Sugar Daddy game, how are you handling any video call meetings that some of these broads as for at times?[/QUOTE]SnapChat permits these. I used it for voice recently. The SA site evidently has a video chat feature, I have not used it. I do have a Skype account that is not linked to my IRL identity. I used it to talk to a POT once. My burner is android, so no FT.

I don't do video calls. Would much prefer a M&G. I'm not interested in having my digital voice and likeness out there. But then again, I'm a pretty low-volume SD.

[QUOTE=AnonDemon69;6497641]For those of you in the Sugar Daddy game, how are you handling any video call meetings that some of these broads as for at times?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RickNva;6494486]...
I confirmed this again with a T Mobile employee who explained that flip phones don't have SIM cards so they ARE harder to track and easier to hide. Proved it by pulling out her Nokia phone from back pocket, even though she had been using smartphone to call activation center...[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure all phones sold for decades now have SIM cards. I know most (pretty sure all) have sim cards. Even if you can't remove them, they are there. You need an IMEI to be on a cell network.

If you want to keep things anon the key is to buy the phone and SIM card with cash, and have a plan you can top up with cards you buy with cash. Even then it's pretty likely you could still be traced by video from shops where you bought the phone or cards by LE that was really, really determined. But that would be way more work than someone just looking for people who hired an escort would be willing to do.

That said these days I don't have a burner either and just use texting / call apps, or communicate mostly over email or PM.

Is anyone concerned about the methods that were used to identify that guy who was arrested in NY for the beach murders? What is possible, I suppose isn't surprising. However, even though the dude used burner phones, they were able to locate him based on other cell phones he had. And they know all about his fake / anonymous accounts. Of course, what we are trying to hide isn't the same; we're hiding more from public exposure / the warden.

Are there any lessons for us?

[QUOTE=KidFarian;6496537]Textnow has worked well for me. I never needed a flip phone.[/QUOTE]This is my go to monger app. I like that you can password protect access. The only issues I have is sending pics, I can receive fine.

[QUOTE=Telcova;6523654]This is my go to monger app. I like that you can password protect access. The only issues I have is sending pics, I can receive fine.[/QUOTE]I am using a burner app called hushed, it also has a password protection and works the same as Textnow but its like 5 $ a month or something.

I'm more curious than concerned. Unfortunately, what I've heard on the news doesn't detail the methods used by LE to source his identity. When the trial commences and these methods become public, I'm sure I'll be confronted with some new reality I hadn't previously considered. This perp was an intelligent man. Becoming an architect takes significant study. Will be interesting as the trial progresses.

I've always assumed that the phone companies / LE have the capability to I'd your burner phone by proximity to your real phone, even if you keep the burned in a car. Regarding credit card usage, remember Bank of America VOLUNTARILY provided expense details for all credit card users within the DC area. A case can be made against all of us, even with tight OPSEC, if the warden / LE choose to look. Fortunately, it's only the warden looking and she doesn't have access to the tools the State does.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6523495]Is anyone concerned about the methods that were used to identify that guy who was arrested in NY for the beach murders? What is possible, I suppose isn't surprising. However, even though the dude used burner phones, they were able to locate him based on other cell phones he had. And they know all about his fake / anonymous accounts. Of course, what we are trying to hide isn't the same; we're hiding more from public exposure / the warden.

Are there any lessons for us?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6523877]I'm more curious than concerned. Unfortunately, what I've heard on the news doesn't detail the methods used by LE to source his identity. When the trial commences and these methods become public, I'm sure I'll be confronted with some new reality I hadn't previously considered. This perp was an intelligent man. Becoming an architect takes significant study. Will be interesting as the trial progresses.

I've always assumed that the phone companies / LE have the capability to I'd your burner phone by proximity to your real phone, even if you keep the burned in a car. Regarding credit card usage, remember Bank of America VOLUNTARILY provided expense details for all credit card users within the DC area. A case can be made against all of us, even with tight OPSEC, if the warden / LE choose to look. Fortunately, it's only the warden looking and she doesn't have access to the tools the State does.[/QUOTE]This guy got got by an interested prosecutor who reinstated the FBI help that was there, who led the effort on the DNA and all other tips, including cell phone Meta data.

My summary:

Not many can eternally outfox the unlimited resources of the FBI.

Cell phone data is routinely used by ALL law enforcement agencies, so see above.

You are probably under surveillance by your warden only, but no matter what, be nice to the ladies, do not hurt the ladies, and keep your location and wifi off when playing.

[QUOTE=SonChi;6524082]This guy got got by an interested prosecutor who reinstated the FBI help that was there, who led the effort on the DNA and all other tips, including cell phone Meta data.

My summary:

Not many can eternally outfox the unlimited resources of the FBI.

Cell phone data is routinely used by ALL law enforcement agencies, so see above.

You are probably under surveillance by your warden only, but no matter what, be nice to the ladies, do not hurt the ladies, and keep your location and wifi off when playing.[/QUOTE]I super greatly appreciate that last bit. Can you be a bit more specific? I must admit, I do not think I have been doing that. I never never use the wifi on my burner, other than when I go to Starbucks to download big updates (save myself the data charges).

But for my IRL cell phone, which I do have w / me when I am playing (essential to know that nothing has happened to the SO. If there were an emergency text, I could get myself to someplace appropriate before answering). For my IRL cell, I almost always have bluetooth on (California laws on cell phone use in cars) and wifi on (bad cell signal at my house, phone is useless on data there, need to use my home wifi). If I will have that phone w / me in the FC, how does it need to be set up?

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6524308]I super greatly appreciate that last bit. Can you be a bit more specific? I must admit, I do not think I have been doing that. I never never use the wifi on my burner, other than when I go to Starbucks to download big updates (save myself the data charges).

But for my IRL cell phone, which I do have w / me when I am playing (essential to know that nothing has happened to the SO. If there were an emergency text, I could get myself to someplace appropriate before answering). For my IRL cell, I almost always have Bluetooth on (California laws on cell phone use in cars) and WiFi on (bad cell signal at my house, phone is useless on data there, need to use my home WiFi). If I will have that phone w / me in the FC, how does it need to be set up?[/QUOTE]If you have a warden or family you are all probably all sharing your location. If they wish, one click and they know Exactly where you are are and Google will give a play by play on where you were. I agree, the family needs to reach you, but if you take a detour to a FC with the WiFi and location on, the warden will be able to trace you if so inclined. Motivated women are Not private investigators, they are archaeologist.

If you are in the FC in Mosaic, can you explain that? Yes, you went to get a burger. But if you frequent AMPs on side streets, then be ready with an excuse. A favorite coffee shop as an example. I choose FCs where I can hide in plain sight. Not perfect, but better than nothing.

With that in mind, take WiFi off, turn battery saver on, and turn location off when prowling. If questioned, just say you were saving battery. Stay low.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6523495]Is anyone concerned about the methods that were used to identify that guy who was arrested in NY for the beach murders? What is possible, I suppose isn't surprising. However, even though the dude used burner phones, they were able to locate him based on other cell phones he had. And they know all about his fake / anonymous accounts. Of course, what we are trying to hide isn't the same; we're hiding more from public exposure / the warden.

Are there any lessons for us?[/QUOTE]LE is not going to put the same effort into going after someone who might be seeing escorts / prostitutes as a suspected murderer (of escorts / prostitutes or anyone else for that matter). So as long as you are just fucking and not killing or murdering, think you are fine. Also your warden would have to have access to some pretty sophisticated methods to track you using the way LE tracks suspected murderers.

[QUOTE=SonChi;6525437]If you have a warden or family you are all probably all sharing your location. If they wish, one click and they know Exactly where you are are and Google will give a play by play on where you were. I agree, the family needs to reach you, but if you take a detour to a FC with the WiFi and location on, the warden will be able to trace you if so inclined. Motivated women are Not private investigators, they are archaeologist.

If you are in the FC in Mosaic, can you explain that? Yes, you went to get a burger. But if you frequent AMPs on side streets, then be ready with an excuse. A favorite coffee shop as an example. I choose FCs where I can hide in plain sight. Not perfect, but better than nothing.

With that in mind, take WiFi off, turn battery saver on, and turn location off when prowling. If questioned, just say you were saving battery. Stay low.[/QUOTE]IK some people have iPhones w / that FindMyIphone feature on them, connected to family members. I believe that fully shuts off people's opportunities for play. My IRL phone is Android and I keep location services off as much as possible. I ought to be OK from the warden w / that setup, of course Google could follow me, but has no motivation to do so.

Your advice about locations, I use that when I am setting locations in my GPS. Though I do delete them afterward most of the time, I choose a location that is near where I really want to be, and one to which going would not raise alarm bells.

What is the risk of having WiFi on? I only do that for my home WIFI on my IRL phone. As I mentioned, I only use WiFi on my burner at Sbux.

Since you said nothing about Bluetooth, I presume that is OK.

Did not quite get your reference to Mosaic.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6526202]IK some people have iPhones w / that FindMyIphone feature on them, connected to family members. I believe that fully shuts off people's opportunities for play. My IRL phone is Android and I keep location services off as much as possible. I ought to be OK from the warden w / that setup, of course Google could follow me, but has no motivation to do so.

Your advice about locations, I use that when I am setting locations in my GPS. Though I do delete them afterward most of the time, I choose a location that is near where I really want to be, and one to which going would not raise alarm bells.

What is the risk of having WiFi on? I only do that for my home WIFI on my IRL phone. As I mentioned, I only use WiFi on my burner at Sbux.

Since you said nothing about Bluetooth, I presume that is OK.

Did not quite get your reference to Mosaic.[/QUOTE]Many of your apps are desperate for your location, so they use your phone's attept to connect to a wifi Hotspot to triangulate your position. Then your phone stores it and provides it to Google Maps. If your warden wanted to, she could show you where you have been over the past 7 days. I have been shown the data by a former warden.

Bluetooth is fine, it's a near field tech.

Mosaic in Fairfax is the site of many FCs.

If you search for "faraday bag" on amazon that will effectively shut down all communication with the outside world. Or just turn off wifi and enable airplane mode.

I will leave it to you to explain why you were off line for so lone.

Be safe.

--BE.

[QUOTE=SonChi;6526940]Many of your apps are desperate for your location, so they use your phone's attept to connect to a wifi Hotspot to triangulate your position. Then your phone stores it and provides it to Google Maps. If your warden wanted to, she could show you where you have been over the past 7 days. I have been shown the data by a former warden.

Bluetooth is fine, it's a near field tech.

Mosaic in Fairfax is the site of many FCs.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SonChi;6526940]Many of your apps are desperate for your location, so they use your phone's attept to connect to a wifi Hotspot to triangulate your position. Then your phone stores it and provides it to Google Maps. If your warden wanted to, she could show you where you have been over the past 7 days. I have been shown the data by a former warden.

Bluetooth is fine, it's a near field tech.

Mosaic in Fairfax is the site of many FCs.[/QUOTE]OMFG. I had no idea. Thanks for the explanation, I totally get it. I will be taking the step of turning off WiFi whenever I am away from home, the only place I use it. Not turning off my phone but turning off WIFI (so Google Maps has no idea) should not really alarm a tech-savvy warden, which thankfully mine is not.

And, I am an interloper on this thread, I live on the west coast, but there are few places where one can get accurate technical information.

I have recently become sensitized to the power of facial recognition sites, and the risk they pose to our anonymity in the sugar bowl. Not so much concerning the warden. There are posts all over here on that, including from me.

[QUOTE=SonChi;6526940]Many of your apps are desperate for your location, so they use your phone's attept to connect to a wifi Hotspot to triangulate your position. Then your phone stores it and provides it to Google Maps. If your warden wanted to, she could show you where you have been over the past 7 days. I have been shown the data by a former warden.

Bluetooth is fine, it's a near field tech.

Mosaic in Fairfax is the site of many FCs.[/QUOTE]One other question. Obviously, they know where your phone was based on which cell phone towers it pinged off of. Why doesn't the phone provide this to Google maps as well? Or if it does, it is truly the case that I can't have my phone on when I am off path of my usual habits.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6527394]One other question. Obviously, they know where your phone was based on which cell phone towers it pinged off of. Why doesn't the phone provide this to Google maps as well? Or if it does, it is truly the case that I can't have my phone on when I am off path of my usual habits.[/QUOTE]Just turn your location off. Then the the apps cannot print out the play by play. It will try to bridge gaps between when you had it on and off, but those specific places will not be there. And that's the point.

I say Google, because most of us have a Gmail but this goes for many apps, including Waze and others.

Again, do not ignore how tech savvy motivated wardens are. I will say this again: motivated SOs are not private investigators, they are archaeologists. Stay low!

[QUOTE=SonChi;6528031]Just turn your location off. Then the the apps cannot print out the play by play. It will try to bridge gaps between when you had it on and off, but those specific places will not be there. And that's the point.

I say Google, because most of us have a Gmail but this goes for many apps, including Waze and others.

Again, do not ignore how tech savvy motivated wardens are. I will say this again: motivated SOs are not private investigators, they are archaeologists. Stay low![/QUOTE]Agreed. Here is one that is lo-tech, but difficult to figure out a solution to. Lots of places have toll-based highways. You have to have an account in advance, you can get billed via your license plate, or a tag of some sort you put on your car. Each month I get a statement that gives the time I passed each of the tolling spots. Sometimes that might look funny to the SO. I do try to avoid getting time-stamped by that system when I can, but sometimes it is a balance between being able to get to work in a timely way (but using the tolled road).

This is one a lot of people would not think about, but of course you are vulnerable should the warden do so and dig in.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6528293]Agreed. Here is one that is lo-tech, but difficult to figure out a solution to. Lots of places have toll-based highways. You have to have an account in advance, you can get billed via your license plate, or a tag of some sort you put on your car. Each month I get a statement that gives the time I passed each of the tolling spots. Sometimes that might look funny to the SO. I do try to avoid getting time-stamped by that system when I can, but sometimes it is a balance between being able to get to work in a timely way (but using the tolled road).

This is one a lot of people would not think about, but of course you are vulnerable should the warden do so and dig in.[/QUOTE]I had to chuckle at this because the Mrs is definitely an archeologist and has snooped our EZ Pass account. Glad to have learned this before I started the hobby. So I'm stuck with adventures in areas without toll roads unless I have other justifiable business in those areas. Fortunately, I've learned there's a fly fishing and military surplus stores in the 2 areas I want to visit next.

[QUOTE=SonChi;6528031]Just turn your location off. Then the the apps cannot print out the play by play. It will try to bridge gaps between when you had it on and off, but those specific places will not be there. And that's the point.

I say Google, because most of us have a Gmail but this goes for many apps, including Waze and others.

Again, do not ignore how tech savvy motivated wardens are. I will say this again: motivated SOs are not private investigators, they are archaeologists. Stay low![/QUOTE]Could you provide a how-to for us to check our own mapping? Here's my guess. Log into the google account that goes w / our Android phone, and then go to google maps and see what it says.

Please correct if needed. I will do this first w / my burner account, because it might be the case that logging into the google account that goes w / my IRL cell phone might trigger some security alerts, and who knows where those might go.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6528293]Agreed. Here is one that is lo-tech, but difficult to figure out a solution to. Lots of places have toll-based highways. You have to have an account in advance, you can get billed via your license plate, or a tag of some sort you put on your car. Each month I get a statement that gives the time I passed each of the tolling spots. Sometimes that might look funny to the SO. I do try to avoid getting time-stamped by that system when I can, but sometimes it is a balance between being able to get to work in a timely way (but using the tolled road).

This is one a lot of people would not think about, but of course you are vulnerable should the warden do so and dig in.[/QUOTE]If your warden is already sniffing around, then it means you have already fucked up and given her reason to be suspicious. Once they get suspicious, it's too late to do anything about it other than lay low for a while.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;6529395]If your warden is already sniffing around, then it means you have already fucked up and given her reason to be suspicious. Once they get suspicious, it's too late to do anything about it other than lay low for a while.[/QUOTE]I completely agree on this one.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;6529395]If your warden is already sniffing around, then it means you have already fucked up and given her reason to be suspicious. Once they get suspicious, it's too late to do anything about it other than lay low for a while.[/QUOTE]Agreed, but it still pays to take some basic precautions to avoid a trail they can use to retroactively track your activities. Simple things like checking "Avoid Tolls" and activating Incognito Mode in Google Maps can prevent future unpleasantness.

[QUOTE=IntrepidSailor;6529887]Agreed, but it still pays to take some basic precautions to avoid a trail they can use to retroactively track your activities. Simple things like checking "Avoid Tolls" and activating Incognito Mode in Google Maps can prevent future unpleasantness.[/QUOTE]The first part of your post, what's your point?

What is that mode in GM? Is that on your phone? Or on the website?

I did what I said I was going to do, log into google w / the email address for my burner account and try to get location info. I was unable to find anything in my timeline, which I took as a good thing.

Technical details welcome.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6530731]The first part of your post, what's your point?

What is that mode in GM? Is that on your phone? Or on the website?

I did what I said I was going to do, log into google w / the email address for my burner account and try to get location info. I was unable to find anything in my timeline, which I took as a good thing.

Technical details welcome.[/QUOTE]Incognito Mode is a setting in your browser (or GM application) that stops it from saving your search history, site data, and cookies to your local device. This by no means make you untraceable, but at least prevents a casual inspection of your device from revealing your recent activity.

[QUOTE=IntrepidSailor;6531128]Incognito Mode is a setting in your browser (or GM application) that stops it from saving your search history, site data, and cookies to your local device. This by no means make you untraceable, but at least prevents a casual inspection of your device from revealing your recent activity.[/QUOTE]OK, of course IK this setting, I always use it whenever I am doing anything w / sugar on a browser, just didn't know that name. 'Private' is the setting I most often see.

I also always use a VPN into a large organization's server (I work for).

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6528750]Could you provide a how-to for us to check our own mapping? Here's my guess. Log into the google account that goes w / our Android phone, and then go to google maps and see what it says.

Please correct if needed. I will do this first w / my burner account, because it might be the case that logging into the google account that goes w / my IRL cell phone might trigger some security alerts, and who knows where those might go.[/QUOTE]On Android, go to your settings, and click on Location, then click Location Services. You will then see a menu where you can choose to display Location History and Location Sharing among others. Take a peek and see what you are sharing. Stay low!

[QUOTE=SonChi;6531997]On Android, go to your settings, and click on Location, then click Location Services. You will then see a menu where you can choose to display Location History and Location Sharing among others. Take a peek and see what you are sharing. Stay low![/QUOTE]I did post what I found on my burner account, and it was nothing, but that is not surprising to me, I don't have location services activated on my burner.

I also don't have location services activated on my IRL phone. I still would like to check if there is anything in my history.

So I am wondering about * From time to time doing DD I have run into SBs who have OF pages.

So going to OF, I can sign up, but most of the content is Adult in nature and thus OF requires one to verify they are 18-yo to see such adult stuff. Shoot looked a several profiles of hot ladies, but because I'm not age verified, can't see the public posts, some of which appears to be quite x-rated (from the description).

I looked around the 'net and it looks like there is no way around this age verification requirement by OF. So. That means one has to provide a valid I'd to sign up. Not something I normally do. I don't mix IRL info with Sugar Dating or my Sugar Identity.

So from an OpSec perspective the only two things I can think of are:

1) Create an entirely new identity for OF purposes only and do not tie that in any way to the Sugaring or Mongering activity. Look but don't touch!

2) Get a fake I'd card and try to use that for age verification purposes on OF.

I think the first approach would not allow me to take conversations from the OF to the Sugaring I'd and create a link between them, so it becomes a 'look, but don't touch' proposition. The second approach, fake I'd could fail, especially if OF has some connection to state D / L databases and can verify if the info on the fake I'd is indeed fake!

Has anyone had this same OpSec problem and has a solution? TIA!