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[QUOTE=Menos;5327048]Are there other black providers of her caliber or similar in the area or would I have to look elsewhere?[/QUOTE]Honestly I have no idea, I believe most girls like that pass through from Florida or California or something and aren't here long.
[QUOTE=Menos;5327048]Are there other black providers of her caliber or similar in the area or would I have to look elsewhere?[/QUOTE]Chocolate citi models has some providers that pass through. Based in FL though.
Updated prices:
30 min 240.
45 min 280.
1 hr 320.
90 min 540.
2 hr 600.
[QUOTE=Tomk2323;5332889]Updated prices:
30 min 240.
45 min 280.
1 hr 320.
90 min 540.
2 hr 600.[/QUOTE]At those price points, you're better off paying an extra 10 to see Lixa (aka Sela, Edelweiss) for the hour. She blows most of the CVIP girls out of the water. I'm not even sure how they came up with the 90 min rate. If you want to see a K-girl for 90 min, you're better off going with Lixa, who is actually 40 bucks CHEAPER than CVIP.
[QUOTE=BobORama;5333335]At those price points, you're better off paying an extra 10 to see Lixa (aka Sela, Edelweiss) for the hour. She blows most of the CVIP girls out of the water. I'm not even sure how they came up with the 90 min rate. If you want to see a K-girl for 90 min, you're better off going with Lixa, who is actually 40 bucks CHEAPER than CVIP.[/QUOTE]Lixa is a special exception to your $300 ceiling for a decent time?
[QUOTE=KyungJean;5333550]Lixa is a special exception to your $300 ceiling for a decent time?[/QUOTE]
*Edit: No, I never said Lixa was an exception, nor did I say I would personally see her at her current price point. I have seen her plenty of times in the past to know how good she is.
My post was simply to compare the quality of two K-girl options for those who are willing to spend more than 300/hr (not me).
I'm not sending obnoxious or demanding messages, just simple and basic like "Hello my name is blank, age blank, in the blank area. I'm interested in meeting blank and would like to start the screening process, please let me know what information you'd like me to provide, thank you".
I've sent a few to DS, both email and text, three messages total over the course of 3 weeks, but I haven't received a response. Should I keep persisting, or no, if they don't respond that means they're not looking for new clients?
[QUOTE=SecondaryBackU;5334649]I'm not sending obnoxious or demanding messages, just simple and basic like "Hello my name is blank, age blank, in the blank area. I'm interested in meeting blank and would like to start the screening process, please let me know what information you'd like me to provide, thank you".
I've sent a few to DS, both email and text, three messages total over the course of 3 weeks, but I haven't received a response. Should I keep persisting, or no, if they don't respond that means they're not looking for new clients?[/QUOTE]I completely get that you're new, but you should really dive deeper into these forums. This question's been answered several times over both here & the "Escorts" subforum. My first few weeks here were spent reading countless pages worth of advice. There's a treasure-trove of info, some of which gets buried but is nevertheless available if you keep scrolling.
Anyway to answer your question: I'd refrain from texting / calling entirely until you're a verified member. Not 100% certain if DS operates the same way as AG (even though I'm verified with both), but AG's booker once told me she preferred unverified folks to stick with email communication. Texts / calls were specifically reserved for verified. Granted, this was 2018 - 2019. But I doubt much has changed.
Furthermore, I recommend emailing a reminder once every few weeks, not once a week. Most sites list their screening requirements, but DS is indeed lacking in this regard. Just fill out their form on the site, have at least one solid provider reference handy (two is better) when they do ask for it, take a pic of your drivers license while blurring out everything except the zip code and photo--and they'll get back to you eventually. Word of caution: DS is notoriously slow when it comes to screening new clients. Took me almost a year to get screened, and I nearly gave up on the process before getting their random approval many months later.
Anyone know what's up with them? It's been radio silence since yesterday and their website looks to be down today.
[QUOTE=FloorHump422;5340963]Anyone know what's up with them? It's been radio silence since yesterday and their website looks to be down today.[/QUOTE]Same for me. I texted to see Sinbi again but no response. Saw her on Tuesday.
[QUOTE=FloorHump422;5340963]Anyone know what's up with them? It's been radio silence since yesterday and their website looks to be down today.[/QUOTE]They either closed shop or got busted. I noticed that many of their TER reviews have been pulled from the site as well. Check your browser history for the links (if you have them) to the TER profile of recent CVIP girls, including Samantha, Darlene, Emma, Eden, Grace, Tiara, and Lina. You will get a "Provider information is no longer available" message. This usually happens if the provider requests TER to remove their reviews.
My guess is they either removed them on their own, or they were forced to.
[QUOTE=BobORama;5342368]They either closed shop or got busted. I noticed that many of their TER reviews have been pulled from the site as well. Check your browser history for the links (if you have them) to the TER profile of recent CVIP girls, including Samantha, Darlene, Emma, Eden, Grace, Tiara, and Lina. You will get a "Provider information is no longer available" message. This usually happens if the provider requests TER to remove their reviews.
My guess is they either removed them on their own, or they were forced to.[/QUOTE]The neighbors probably ratted them out. Man, I really hope Sinbi goes back to CP or goes to AG.
[QUOTE=BobORama;5342368]They either closed shop or got busted. I noticed that many of their TER reviews have been pulled from the site as well. Check your browser history for the links (if you have them) to the TER profile of recent CVIP girls, including Samantha, Darlene, Emma, Eden, Grace, Tiara, and Lina. You will get a "Provider information is no longer available" message. This usually happens if the provider requests TER to remove their reviews.
My guess is they either removed them on their own, or they were forced to.[/QUOTE]Maybe they got tipped off about a potential bust and are going dark until things cool off? I don't think LE would force them to remove reviews or keep their website inactive rather than unlisiting it. I think when the busts happened in Seattle, forum posts and reviews were archived as evidence, but weren't publically deleted.
For what it's worth, if you look at the crime spreadsheet there was a "suspicious activity" call to that area (same street almost same number building) in that time frame. Hopefully everything was okay.
[QUOTE=FacelessBoy;5342762]For what it's worth, if you look at the crime spreadsheet there was a "suspicious activity" call to that area (same street almost same number building) in that time frame. Hopefully everything was okay.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Where can one find this spreadsheet?
[QUOTE=FacelessBoy;5342762]For what it's worth, if you look at the crime spreadsheet there was a "suspicious activity" call to that area (same street almost same number building) in that time frame. Hopefully everything was okay.[/QUOTE]Thanks for bringing that up. I checked, and the "suspicious event" is really close to their location. They are probably laying low for now, as FloorHump mentioned.
[QUOTE=BobORama;5342944]Thanks for bringing that up. I checked, and the "suspicious event" is really close to their location. They are probably laying low for now, as FloorHump mentioned.[/QUOTE]In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?
[QUOTE=Almel89;5343333]In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?[/QUOTE]Agencies supposedly delete our info after screening. Do I believe they actually adhere to that? Hell no, but I still believe we'd be okay even if that agency got busted.
Say the worst should happen: a sting is launched against an agency you're vetted with & all your info that you sent that agency had fallen into cop's hands. LE might have heavily redacted screenshots of your license, (fake) work info, a redacted credit card, your zip code where you live, etc which proves very little. Even if that agency logged dates visited & recorded how much paid per visit, LE might be able to conclude you were a customer at one point based on hearsay. But without video evidence of illegal acts, witnesses willing to testify against you, or a confession on your part--then [U]LE has jackshit[/U]. Ultimately, it'd be too much work for LE to pursue every john in the scenario I just described. Far easier to roll up johns in the middle of the act, drawers dropped, money in hand, then to pursue a laundry list of johns from a newly-busted agency based on evidence that'd likely be labeled circumstantial.
I couldn't find the post, but I vaguely recall someone a couple years ago described how he got mail from lawyers & cops. Apparently, his info came up following a then-recent bust of an agency (perhaps Lotus Flowerz?). Cops wanted his willing cooperation or else they'd bring him up on charges & inform his employer. At the same time, lawyers offered to represent him in any solicitation case. Since no official warrant was ever delivered, he blew it all off as intimidation tactics. And think about it--if that guy had a family and they saw that mail, he'd be screwed. So it's a safe bet all that correspondence was merely just to screw with him since LE lacked the means (or energy) to truly push the case forward.
Hence why I say there's nothing to worry about. Personally, it's been almost a year since last visiting an agency & I'm not in any serious relationship--so LE truly has nothing on me. Just remember that if you are in a bind and LE is pressuring you to incriminate yourself? Do as these guys suggest & you'll be okay ([URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkN4duV4ia0[/URL])!
[QUOTE=BobORama;5342944]Thanks for bringing that up. I checked, and the "suspicious event" is really close to their location. They are probably laying low for now, as FloorHump mentioned.[/QUOTE]Just another reminder why providing drivers licenses or any other personal information for screening purposes is just simply not worth it.
[QUOTE=Almel89;5343333]In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?[/QUOTE]I'm not a lawyer, so don't take my word as being authoritative, but I don't believe LE can prosecute mongers using only their info as evidence. Having our personal info is not evidence of a crime being committed. Worse thing that can happen is that the info gets out in public, which can lead to some embarrassment. But other than that, I think we are fine, legally speaking.
[QUOTE=BobORama;5343714]I'm not a lawyer, so don't take my word as being authoritative, but I don't believe LE can prosecute mongers using only their info as evidence. Having our personal info is not evidence of a crime being committed. Worse thing that can happen is that the info gets out in public, which can lead to some embarrassment. But other than that, I think we are fine, legally speaking.[/QUOTE]What about text messages like, "I'm here" or "I'd like to schedule an appointment".
[QUOTE=Almel89;5343811]What about text messages like, "I'm here" or "I'd like to schedule an appointment".[/QUOTE]Doesn't matter. That's not an indication of a crime. They would need to catch you in the act, or have video surveillance of the act.
Sometimes LE sets up sting operations. If that happens and you only respond to it by text messages, they can't get you unless you physically walk into their trap.
[QUOTE=BobORama;5343898]Doesn't matter. That's not an indication of a crime. They would need to catch you in the act, or have video surveillance of the act.
Sometimes LE sets up sting operations. If that happens and you only respond to it by text messages, they can't get you unless you physically walk into their trap.[/QUOTE]Sweet, in that case I'll just monitor the news and if I see the site back up and reviews popping up again for a few months I'll go back to my sweet k girl nectar. Thanks lads.
[QUOTE=Almel89;5344376]Sweet, in that case I'll just monitor the news and if I see the site back up and reviews popping up again for a few months I'll go back to my sweet k girl nectar. Thanks lads.[/QUOTE]Free legal advice is often more costly than what you pay for! But if you gave your info to an illegal enterprise, sure, you have nothing at all to worry about!
[QUOTE=KyungJean;5344528]Free legal advice is often more costly than what you pay for! But if you gave your info to an illegal enterprise, sure, you have nothing at all to worry about![/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you're trying to stir up here, but I'm willing to bet you money that he has nothing to worry about. And since they also have my personal info, I'm willing to bet that I too have nothing to worry about. I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it.
But since you think you know better than others, feel free to keep fear mongering.
[QUOTE=Almel89;5343333]In the worst case scenario if they got busted, would we be fucked if our info was caught on there?[/QUOTE]You could be fucked by the government or society. Government trying to prosecute you, takes time and money. Your wife leave you and take everything. You lose your job and then it is difficult to find employment. How is it going to be going mass on Sunday? You know, worst case.
[QUOTE=BobORama;5344619]I'm not sure what you're trying to stir up here, but I'm willing to bet you money that he has nothing to worry about. And since they also have my personal info, I'm willing to bet that I too have nothing to worry about. I'm certainly not going to lose sleep over it.
But since you think you know better than others, feel free to keep fear mongering.[/QUOTE]You are probably right.
But if you really believe there is no risk, well. I don't know what to say other than you shouldn't confuse others with your misplaced confidence.
Universal Citation: VA Code 18.2-346 (2001 through Reg Session).
18.2-346. Being a prostitute or prostitution.
A. Any person who, for money or its equivalent, commits adultery, fornication or any act in violation of 18.2-361, or offers to commit adultery, fornication or any act in violation of 18.2-361 and thereafter does any substantial act in furtherance thereof, shall be guilty of being a prostitute, or prostitution, which shall be punishable as a Class 1 misdemeanor.
B. Any person who offers money or its equivalent to another for the purpose of engaging in sexual acts as enumerated above and thereafter does any substantial act in furtherance thereof shall be guilty of solicitation of prostitution and shall be guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor.
(Code 1950,18. 1-194; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14,15; 1980, c. 534; 1993, c. 609.).
That said, I have my ID with them too, but I never talked price and or certain sex act during my convo with mamasan.
All LEO has is my name and picture.
Actual court case with a friend of mine. He was arrested for solicitation of prostitution. He answered an ad on Backpage. Arrived and got busted. He was later on released because he had never mentioned a sex act. He said to have a good time. Although he was released, his name was in the news and he lost his job, his family and a lot of money while he was fighting this case. He was a university dean of admission too. He still lose although he won the court case. So the answer is no there is nothing to worry about. You have not committed any crime. The law is very specific. So no sweat there. Clubvip said in their ad " don't ask dumb questions". Now you know what it means.
If you want to be 100% sure there are a few more steps you can take. But as for now. I won't sweat none.
From my experiences the most you will get is a detective calling you and invite you to the station. Which happened to me once, I told the detective NO. End of story.
It looks like the city of Fairfax has arrest reports, but they haven't been updated yet. So far the ones I see only date up to 4/29.
Best thing to do now is simply stand by and look as the arrest reports are updated. And if the names for the dates of around 5/5-5/6 when the reports and arrest reportedly happened look Korean then we'll know that they got the axe.
And even if the agency comes back, it looks like one of us will have to TOFTF and dive in again to see if everything is safe.
It's pure conjecture at this point, but the lack of media reporting or broadcasting about arrests by LE makes me think that perhaps they didn't find enough to actually arrest anyone or if they were detained, charge them with a crime. The steps taken by the agency to delete their footprint could just be them being proactive. We'll have to wait and see when the arrest reports are updated.
[QUOTE=Almel89;5344765]It looks like the city of Fairfax has arrest reports, but they haven't been updated yet. So far the ones I see only date up to 4/29.
Best thing to do now is simply stand by and look as the arrest reports are updated. And if the names for the dates of around 5/5-5/6 when the reports and arrest reportedly happened look Korean then we'll know that they got the axe.
And even if the agency comes back, it looks like one of us will have to TOFTF and dive in again to see if everything is safe.[/QUOTE]They are technically not located in the city of Fairfax, so those arrest reports won't show it. They are actually located in Fairfax County, however, FFX county's website does not appear to have the same weekly arrest reports.
On a side note, I'm curious what the procedure is during one of these busts. If a neighbor rats them out, don't the cops need a warrant before entering? Can't the girls just refuse to open the door or pretend no one's home?
[QUOTE=RichmondPhoto;5344692]That said, I have my ID with them too, but I never talked price and or certain sex act during my convo with mamasan.
All LEO has is my name and picture.
Actual court case with a friend of mine. He was arrested for solicitation of prostitution. He answered an ad on Backpage. Arrived and got busted. He was later on released because he had never mentioned a sex act. He said to have a good time. Although he was released, his name was in the news and he lost his job, his family and a lot of money while he was fighting this case. He was a university dean of admission too. He still lose although he won the court case. So the answer is no there is nothing to worry about. You have not committed any crime. The law is very specific. So no sweat there. Clubvip said in their ad " don't ask dumb questions". Now you know what it means.
If you want to be 100% sure there are a few more steps you can take. But as for now. I won't sweat none.
From my experiences the most you will get is a detective calling you and invite you to the station. Which happened to me once, I told the detective NO. End of story.[/QUOTE]Well, I'd hope no one here would go into details over text or phone calls! Most [I]reputable[/I] agencies won't tolerate explicit talk over their comms anyway.
But it's often as you say: [I]some[/I] cops will embarrass mongers by blabbing to employers, fam, media, etc. Some might push a weak case forward even with circumstantial evidence (essentially going through the motions to further embarrass the defendant). However, the majority of cops are either too occupied or too lazy to go through all that. They've got bigger fish to fry. It's faaaarrrrr more appealing on their resumes to bust multiple johns in a planned, orchestrated sting. Does anyone really think they've got time to interview all hundreds of johns vetted by an agency with nothing to go off of except some redacted PII & cryptic texts? Be serious now.
In summary: don't incriminate yourself. Be mindful of what you say or text over the phone. As for in-person, keep thinking with your big head. If shit seems off or you've got an uneasy feeling, bounce and then apologize to the provider / agency once you're completely off the premises. And as RichmondPhoto & others have said earlier--refuse to cooperate in the absence of a warrant. Do as the Pot Attorneys have advised their clients--shut the fuck up!
Intriguing by the review, I finally check out the agency for the fist time and yesterday I made an appointment with Moon Palace. Verification is very easy and simple that they don't even ask my I'd. Got at their place and greeted by the Asian dude that check my temp. After that, I got into this room and this pretty little thang just greeted me with a kiss in a cheek. I found out her name is Coco (when I made the appointment, I don't even ask any particular girl since the Japanese ones already left). I gave her the donation inside envelope and then, She takes me the bathroom to get clean up with a BBBJ preview. After clean up, she takes me to the bed with more BBBJ and dfk. Then, she moves me on top of her and kinda signalling me to daty. I did it for almost 7 min and it looks like she really enjoyed it. Without further due, she grab rubber and I just pound that little thang all the way into oblivion. In the middle of it, I got tired and lost my stiffness but she took care of me patiently, even offer BBBJCIM. But I prefer the old fashioned way and After more missionary, I finally erupted inside of her. I took another clean up, put on my clothes and kiss her goodbye.
Overall, this is pretty amazing but I would like to meet different girl though. She said she will be staying for only one week and whisper to me to come back before she leaves.
Sorry if I made lots of grammatical error bcs I'm still pretty excited.
Cheers.
I contacted them twice but haven't heard back. They're usually pretty responsive but have gone silent all of a sudden. Anyone else contacted them recently?
[QUOTE=LuckyLuciano00;5349510]I contacted them twice but haven't heard back. They're usually pretty responsive but have gone silent all of a sudden. Anyone else contacted them recently?[/QUOTE]I did yesterday and have an appointment for today.
[QUOTE=LuckyLuciano00;5349510]I contacted them twice but haven't heard back. They're usually pretty responsive but have gone silent all of a sudden. Anyone else contacted them recently?[/QUOTE]What is CP again?
[QUOTE=Ottotot;5350454]What is CP again?[/QUOTE]All the K-girl agency abbreviations I could think of in this region. Keep in mind that the latter one seems to have run into difficulties and is supposedly lying low.
CP = Club Paradise ([URL]https://www.clubparadiseusa.com[/URL]).
AG = Asian Gem ([URL]https://www.asiangem.site[/URL]).
DS = Discreet Story ([URL]https://www.discreetstory.com[/URL]).
MP = Moon Palace / allegedly the former Lotus Flowerz ([URL]https://www.moonpalace.club[/URL]).
CVIP = Club VIP K-girls ([URL]https://clubvipkgirls.escortbook.com[/URL]).
[QUOTE=Shinshi86;5351285]All the K-girl agency abbreviations I could think of in this region. Keep in mind that the latter one seems to have run into difficulties and is supposedly lying low.
CP = Club Paradise ([URL]https://www.clubparadiseusa.com[/URL]).
AG = Asian Gem ([URL]https://www.asiangem.site[/URL]).
DS = Discreet Story ([URL]https://www.discreetstory.com[/URL]).
MP = Moon Palace / allegedly the former Lotus Flowerz ([URL]https://www.moonpalace.club[/URL]).
CVIP = Club VIP K-girls ([URL]https://clubvipkgirls.escortbook.com[/URL]).[/QUOTE]I would just add that MP is a C-agency, with occasional Japanese providers.
[QUOTE=FloorHump422;5351404]I would just add that MP is a C-agency, with occasional Japanese providers.[/QUOTE]You're right, I often forget I'm using the terms "K-girl" and "Asian" interchangeably.
If MP is indeed the Lotus Flowerz of old, I had that one fantastic appointment with them a month or so prior to their bust in 2019. Back then, their rates were substantially lower than the competition (500 for two hours). On top of that, both me & the Chinese provider I was seeing lost track of time until the booker texted her well past the two-and-a-half hour mark, haha! That was one of the better agency experiences which reminded me of the good old days in Atlanta. Doubt I'll ever have that kind of agency fun in the DMV ever again.
Anyway because of the alleged link between LF and MP, I'm very hesitant about trusting them again. Especially if their screening process is as lax as others have mentioned. Just seems like their pushing their luck and thinking that LE won't focus on them again.
Hey everyone, I wanted to see if why'll could help me out. I've been looking at joining elite models for a while now but the thing that keeps stopping me is the whole submitting a photo I'd on there form. I've been to a couple places but none have request a I'd yet. I am still fairly new to this so it could be the norm but I just wanted to see if I could get some advice. Let me know about your experience with them and if I am just overthinking and if I should pull the trigger. Feel free to pm me or respond here, which ever is easier.