Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

[QUOTE=EdMonger;3552935]Sorry Metro, we have class here on the west side of our state. We have varying opinions, but we are not arrogant SOBS like you apparently are. Go back to your hell hole Detroit and grovel in your own excrement. You are not even welcome there. LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, would it make you feel better if I dragged my nut sack across your face? Look ass-wipe if I wanted any lip from you I'd get it off Benz1 zipper. I made my post about Brianastar and right away a bunch of ball-less fucks have to act like they are some kind of internet bad ass.

Shut the fuck up you old limp dick littlebitch.

If everyone ignores him he will slink away. Obviously some get off on provocation, others get off on pussy. If it's not responded to it will be no fun and he will leave.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;3553417]If everyone ignores him he will slink away. Obviously some get off on provocation, others get off on pussy. If it's not responded to it will be no fun and he will leave.[/QUOTE]True, STFU and don't attack me because I posted about some hooker from your area and I won't have to put my foot in your ass. [u]There was no reason for anyone to reply to my post they way they did unless they were looking for a fight[/u].

[QUOTE=MrLovaLova1;3553258]Contacting a provider directly and telling her directly that her rates are ridiculous takes some balls. Posting on a site anonymously, writing a pointless point, not so much. For someone who doesn't "give a shit about Grand Rapids" I only have one question: why the fuck are you even here? LOL some mongers should not be mongers but hey money doesn't discriminate.[/QUOTE]By "contacting a provider directly" do you me send her a PM, How about an email, text, phone call, or maybe hit her up on Facebook? Even if I booked an appointment and went to her incall and told her in person I would still be fucking anonymous dumb-ass. What the fuck is any provider going to do, kick my ass? The worst that could happen is she posts about me in the ladies-room and puts me on the do not see bad boys list, we all know those black lists aren't worth a shit.

Maybe you should work on growing so brains before you even think about growing balls.

[B]Now go home and get your fucking shine box!!![/B]

Hello Fellow Mongers, just wanted to say how great the weather is lately here in Grand Rapids. Perfect time for car dates or for the adventurous a romp on the actual hood of a car. If you haven't partaken in the latter I suggest you use this weather we're to do so and don't forget to report back.

[QUOTE=MrLovaLova1;3555067]Hello Fellow Mongers, just wanted to say how great the weather is lately here in Grand Rapids. Perfect time for car dates or for the adventurous a romp on the actual hood of a car. If you haven't partaken in the latter I suggest you use this weather we're to do so and don't forget to report back.[/QUOTE]This is the "fight thread," take your candy ass kumbaya post to the SW or general reports thread.

[QUOTE=MetroRider;3555668]This is the "fight thread," take your candy ass kumbaya post to the SW or general reports thread.[/QUOTE]It gives new meaning to the word, "hoodie!

[QUOTE=Bloozer;3555750]It gives new meaning to the word, "hoodie![/QUOTE]Hahahahahahaha.

Who PM'd me for Destiny's new digits. By monger 1.

Introduce yourself and get involved! Some of you told me how you've been mongering for years yet have no posts? Share! Review someone. Join the team! This forum works because of interaction, not leaching.

Was going to post in BP ads but figured it would get deleted because it wasn't strictly about getting pussy. Benz has pointed this out also. We have all seen the post from guys who say "I only see ones with good reviews" or they run on about someone who got ripped off and say "that's why I don't tofft" but my favorite is the one who doesn't post a review of someone they don't want to share and then when someone else does a review they chime in with a report and how they seen them weeks ago or have seen them multiple times and agree with a review. Nobody is saying you have to tofft like Ted Bear and again thank you Ted and wolverine for all you have done. But hey even if you can help filter out the fake b. S. That helps. Make a phone call, text save others from wasting time. I myself haven't tofft like Ted Bear but who has. But I have done a few. Yes it's nerve racking but everyone needs to at some point. I have two young Muskegon girls that I will share with tofft contributers through pm If interested.

[QUOTE=MetroRider;3552857]I bet you had your pinky finger out while you typed this. Asshole, table for one.[/QUOTE]I'm tired of these Knucklle Draggers from the East SiiiiiiDe. Don't come here with your self-hating BS. It's not our fault your Local Gub Ment requires that your Daddy also be your Uncle in order for yo Mama to git PUB Lick ASSistance. Go Home! Shut yo Pie Hole and ask your mommy if she'll iron your clothes for you.

Thanks bth. That's really how I feel about it. I get newbies not toftt. I am even ok with vets not doing it. It's not for everyone. Hell I got robbed last time I did it. But for God sakes post something if you claim to have been mongering for years.

Years of mongering is not a newbie! To pm me for nonpublic digits with zero posts is really asking a lot imo. I didn't require a member had to give me secret digits in trade. But at least participate somehow on this board before begging for a favor.

[QUOTE=Bth9318;3564588]Who PM'd me for Destiny's new digits. By monger 1.

Introduce yourself and get involved! Some of you told me how you've been mongering for years yet have no posts? Share! Review someone. Join the team! This forum works because of interaction, not leaching.

Was going to post in BP ads but figured it would get deleted because it wasn't strictly about getting pussy. Benz has pointed this out also. We have all seen the post from guys who say "I only see ones with good reviews" or they run on about someone who got ripped off and say "that's why I don't tofft" but my favorite is the one who doesn't post a review of someone they don't want to share and then when someone else does a review they chime in with a report and how they seen them weeks ago or have seen them multiple times and agree with a review. Nobody is saying you have to tofft like Ted Bear and again thank you Ted and wolverine for all you have done. But hey even if you can help filter out the fake b. S. That helps. Make a phone call, text save others from wasting time. I myself haven't tofft like Ted Bear but who has. But I have done a few. Yes it's nerve racking but everyone needs to at some point. I have two young Muskegon girls that I will share with tofft contributers through pm If interested.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger01;3565307]Thanks bth. That's really how I feel about it. I get newbies not toftt. I am even ok with vets not doing it. It's not for everyone. Hell I got robbed last time I did it. But for God sakes post something if you claim to have been mongering for years.[/QUOTE]Or at least if you're not TOFTT, post about those. You can even go toward ones you're not TOFTT, but could still use some extra eyes when they're sorta new. And even when you're re-iterating what others have said in their last posted adventures with the same girl. Which, I admit, I should do more of.

And to TOFTT, when you don't go out on a limb by finding the similarities between their ad & others that are verified, and follow the Guidelines and err on the side of caution to avoid anything slightly suspicious, thinking with your big head and not the little one. Your chances are pretty darn low. But regardless, since you did get robbed, I can understand holding off on that for a good while.

[QUOTE=Charlie441;3565455]Or at least if you're not TOFTT, post about those. You can even go toward ones you're not TOFTT, but could still use some extra eyes when they're sorta new. And even when you're re-iterating what others have said in their last posted adventures with the same girl. Which, I admit, I should do more of.

And to TOFTT, when you don't go out on a limb by finding the similarities between their ad & others that are verified, and follow the Guidelines and err on the side of caution to avoid anything slightly suspicious, thinking with your big head and not the little one. Your chances are pretty darn low. But regardless, since you did get robbed, I can understand holding off on that for a good while.[/QUOTE]Take One For The Team Guidelines (update # 3).

Thank you for your input BoyBear and Polish the Turd.

Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on TinEye.

1. A Search her number on Facebook. / It would wise to have a hobby (fake) FB page before searching. (Thanks BoyBear).

Step 2 : Monitor the ad for at least 3 days, a sting from LE or Robbery set ups usually don't post for more than two days.

Step 3 : Let the usasexguide members know of your findings from google and ask if anyone has knowledge and you plan on TOFTT.

Step 4 : Buy a hobby phone, Do not use your real name for registration or to the provider.

Step 5 : Contact her on a slow day, for quicker response and better negotiations text or call on Tuesday or Wednesday. They get so many calls on a Friday they might lose your message.

A: Original contact should be a short stay or Hhr, to reduce the risk of an expensive bad date.

B: If her incall is a house address enter it into Google Street view to see the house and neighborhood.

If she gives you a location like 3 mile and Alpine, 28th street hotels between Division and 131, RRI, Knights INN on 28th. Tell her you won't go to those hotels and opt a for car date.

C: Save any negotiation for the end of the call or even your second contact. (a car date is 40 or less).

D: don't wear any loud clothing, blend in.

Step 6 : Never park in her driveway or the hotel parking lot. Park in the street or at a nearby business and walk. Example; if you go to motel 6 on 28th park in the restaurant lot.

Step 7 : Leave all valuables and drivers license at home or in the vehicle. Only take in the money you plan to spend.

Step 8 : Contact her to say you are here. Do not go to any shady houses, just drive by and text her to let her know you will not be coming in her mouth tonight.

A: If you're at a house, have her meet you on the porch.

B: If the Hotel has a side door use it. If you have to walk by the front desk act like you live there, don't ask directions.

Step 9 : Knock on door. If the girl matches the pic stay, if not walk out and report back to USA that the pic doesn't match the girl.

Step 10: Check every room for safety.

Step 11 : Tell her you have the money and maybe show it to her but do not give up the cash until after you receive the services you negotiated for.

Step 12: Report back to USA in full detail including Looks, Smells & Cleanliness (of incall and provider), Attitude and Service.

12 A: Include a link to the providers advertisement so we know who you are reviewing. (Thanks Polish The Turd).

These are some steps you should take before you TOFTT. Please add to the list if you see anything I missed.

Just trying to help.

Fellow Monger Benz1.

Another three martini lunch? Please pass the popcorn.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;3565264]I'm tired of these Knucklle (booze talk redacted) iron your clothes for you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;3565264]I'm tired of these Knucklle Draggers from the East SiiiiiiDe. Don't come here with your self-hating BS. It's not our fault your Local Gub Ment requires that your Daddy also be your Uncle in order for yo Mama to git PUB Lick ASSistance. Go Home! Shut yo Pie Hole and ask your mommy if she'll iron your clothes for you.[/QUOTE]I'll make you a deal. You leave my mom out of this and I'll leave my cock out of your mom.

[B]Now go home and get your fucking shine box!!![/B]

P.S. You should look into this add on - [URL]https://www.grammarly.com/?q=brand&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=brand_f1&utm_content=76996511046&utm_term=grammarly&matchtype=e&placement=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAjwmK3OBRBKEiwAOL6t1FiTo8ffIjYMicyi-0rzfychB0FVX1paiX1GX4uc2seKkk9CQ3tyAxoCVuoQAvD_BwE[/URL] - It will help you with your grammar and spelling.

You can thank me later.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3565683]Take One For The Team Guidelines (update # 3).

Thank you for your input BoyBear and Polish the Turd.

Step 1 : Find a girl you like, google her number search pics on TinEye.[/QUOTE]Just an FYI, Google Image is a 1000 times better then TinEye.

[QUOTE=DaveUsa;3565748]Another three martini lunch? Please pass the popcorn.[/QUOTE]From his posting style I was assuming it was a three dick lunch.

[QUOTE=DaveUsa;3565748]Another three martini lunch? Please pass the popcorn.[/QUOTE]Hi Davey! You finally found a thread to post on that won't get you flagged by Admin. Kudos!

[QUOTE=MetroRider;3565774]From his posting style I was assuming it was a three dick lunch.[/QUOTE]You post a lot about "Dick". Hmmmm.

I don't mind seeing a review of a known provider. Things change. Service gets better or worse, rates change, lurking pimps get discovered, I could go on and on. I typically read many reviews and cobble together a picture of what my encounter might be like. One review may have service details. Another has location info. Another rates or a differing opinion on the girl.

My point is even if you're not toftt you add value to all by posting experiences. Good or bad.

[QUOTE=Charlie441;3565455]Or at least if you're not TOFTT, post about those. You can even go toward ones you're not TOFTT, but could still use some extra eyes when they're sorta new. And even when you're re-iterating what others have said in their last posted adventures with the same girl. Which, I admit, I should do more of.

And to TOFTT, when you don't go out on a limb by finding the similarities between their ad & others that are verified, and follow the Guidelines and err on the side of caution to avoid anything slightly suspicious, thinking with your big head and not the little one. Your chances are pretty darn low. But regardless, since you did get robbed, I can understand holding off on that for a good while.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;3566116]You post a lot about "Dick". Hmmmm.[/QUOTE]You suck a lot of dick, so your point is?

[QUOTE=MetroRider;3566697]You suck a lot of dick, so your point is?[/QUOTE]Wishful thinking on your part. Can someone PM this Eastside Piece of Shit a link to the M4 M Detroit CL section? I'm sure he already has it bookmarked on his Mom's Ipad, but let's let him pretend he doesn't.

[QUOTE=MetroRider;3566697]You suck a lot of dick, so your point is?[/QUOTE]The ladies love sucking my dick a lot is my point, and the point of this forum homophobe.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;3566113]Hi Davey! You finally found a thread to post on that won't get you flagged by Admin. Kudos![/QUOTE]Thanks for your kudos Mr. Jelly. However, having yet to run afoul of Admin here, I'm not sure they're deserved. But accepted all the same.

I do enjoy this thread. Some here have posted helpful information and good advice. I have challenged the ideas of others and had my own ideas challenged too. We've seen interesting banter. Some tongue in cheek, some well-intentioned and some not so much. This is a place we can learn and play and fight while keeping the review threads less cluttered and more useful.

[QUOTE=MrLovaLova1;3567450]The ladies love sucking my dick a lot is my point, and the point of this forum homophobe.[/QUOTE]Millennial's are stealing your jobs and SW's get use to it. Old men need not apply LOL.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;35634126]I like it when guys pull it out off my ass and cum on my face.[/QUOTE]That's gay.

[QUOTE=MetroRider;3566697]No One sucks as much dick as me!!![/QUOTE]Nothing to brag about Punk. If you didn't like the taste so much, I'd slap it out of your EastsiiiiDe Kid Rock mouth.

[QUOTE=MetroRider;3568262]Mommy! When you're done cutting the crust off my PB&J sandwich, will you trim my toenails again?.[/QUOTE]How embarrassing!

[QUOTE=FlowMaster1;3567806]Millennial's are stealing your jobs and SW's get use to it. Old men need not apply LOL.[/QUOTE]I make more money than most millennials your point is invalid.

[QUOTE=MrLovaLova1;3568650]I make more money than most millennials your point is invalid.[/QUOTE]Only for four years or after internship than your job. Kind of a sobering thought isn't it?

What the hell is going on with rates? $80-100 for ss 100-120 for hhr $175-200 for hr. Why the hell are people paying this? I don't mind paying $200 or more for quality pussy but 99% of these BP bitches are glorified street walkers with a phone. People ***** about gps then they are out encouraging it paying $100- $120 for hh which alot of times turns out to be nothing more than a BJ. Benz1 please chime in here. You people ever hear of negotiating? Espesially with BP all jacked up they can't advertise like before. I'm starting to see them on Craigslist now. I had one quote me 150 hr. I said no I would do 120 hr msog and she came to me. Now I'm a regular $80 for the hour. If she calls me it's 60 hr msog. C'Mon. Stop gps before it to late.

[QUOTE=Bth9318;3571679]What the hell is going on with rates? $80-100 for ss 100-120 for hhr $175-200 for hr. Why the hell are people paying this? I don't mind paying $200 or more for quality pussy but [b]99% of these BP bitches are glorified street walkers with a phone[/b]. People ***** about gps then they are out encouraging it paying $100- $120 for hh which alot of times turns out to be nothing more than a BJ. Benz1 please chime in here. You people ever hear of negotiating? Espesially with BP all jacked up they can't advertise like before. I'm starting to see them on Craigslist now. I had one quote me 150 hr. I said no I would do 120 hr msog and she came to me. Now I'm a regular $80 for the hour. If she calls me it's 60 hr msog. C'Mon. Stop gps before it to late.[/QUOTE]Very true, and if it wasn't for the internet the other 1% would be walking too. What it really comes down to is, 95% of hobbyist are just fucking dumb and spineless when it comes to pussy. They will negotiate the price of a new car, house, furniture, etc, but when it comes to pussy they won't even ask if it's CBJ or BBBJ. They just hope for the best.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;3568309]How embarrassing![/QUOTE]How is that embarrassing? She even make me meatloaf. - [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCYArey8ykU[/URL].

Maybe if your mother got her ass off Division for a night she might do something nice for you.

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;3568303]Nothing to brag about Punk. If you didn't like the taste so much, I'd slap it out of your EastsiiiiDe Kid Rock mouth.[/QUOTE]1st it was lame as shit to copy me but with your use of the word "punk" I'm assuming your ass is old as fuck so I'll let it slide. 2nd Kid Rock is bad ass unlike that faggity ass Barry Manilow shit your boyfriend fucks your ass too.

[QUOTE=Bth9318;3571679]What the hell is going on with rates? $80-100 for ss 100-120 for hhr $175-200 for hr. Why the hell are people paying this? I don't mind paying $200 or more for quality pussy but 99% of these BP bitches are glorified street walkers with a phone. People ***** about gps then they are out encouraging it paying $100- $120 for hh which alot of times turns out to be nothing more than a BJ. Benz1 please chime in here. You people ever hear of negotiating? Espesially with BP all jacked up they can't advertise like before. I'm starting to see them on Craigslist now. I had one quote me 150 hr. I said no I would do 120 hr msog and she came to me. Now I'm a regular $80 for the hour. If she calls me it's 60 hr msog. C'Mon. Stop gps before it to late.[/QUOTE]First of all I would never make the appointment for anything more than 60 SS. I've been very successful at 30 and 40 if you do it right.

Text on a Tuesday between 10:30 and noon (checkout time) using a phone app on my hobby phone. The first text will be a negotiation I probably won't get, 30 ss or car date. Saying I want BBBJCIM ws. It rarely works on the first call, It usually fails.

I text again in another 10 min. Using my real hoby phone number and add 10 or 15 to my last offer with my other number. She didn't get any calls in between and it's a better offer than the last one I made from my phone app number. She usually says Yes how fast can you get here. I need room rent.
I love eating fine tasting pussy, I'm usually there hhr because they love it too.
The rate you set on the first visit usually holds for future appointments. But not on Friday or Saturday. Plan ahead, never be horny on a Friday or Saturday, you will usually get shorted or ripped off with bad service.
Never pay upfront, show her the money and put it back in your pocket. This will help secure the sevice negotiated and avoid upselling. Don't forget to pay at the end.
This only works on Tuesday and Wednesday. Business picks up later in the week and they are getting other calls, you will be ignored.

Always be willing to walk out on the upsell, when I say I want BBBJCIM I also tell them I'm recently showered too. I've been told cim is more money, while I'm laying on the bed with my pants off. I get up to leave, before my hand hits the doorknob they are retracting the upsell.

Negotiations in MP are the same process, when I say I need a BJ and they say HJ, I will only give 20 tip. They say 40, I say don't worry about it and start jerkin off, before I get to the 4th stroke they are doing it for 20. But never on a Friday or Saturday.

While they are giving me the BBBJ I do some upsell in of my own. "I just got one yesterday, this might take awhile. Have you ever given a prostrate massage?" No? "I can teach you". LOL, works most of the time.

Should I add this to my 12 step TOFTT Program?
No GPS for me, stay smart, stay safe.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3572633]First of all I would never make the appointment for anything more than 60 SS. I've been very successful at 30 and 40 if you do it right.

Text on a Tuesday between 10:30 and noon (checkout time) using a phone app on my hobby phone. The first text will be a negotiation I probably won't get, 30 ss or car date. Saying I want BBBJCIM ws. It rarely works on the first call, It usually fails.

I text again in another 10 min. Using my real hoby phone number and add 10 or 15 to my last offer with my other number. She didn't get any calls in between and it's a better offer than the last one I made from my phone app number. She usually says Yes how fast can you get here. I need room rent.
I love eating fine tasting pussy, I'm usually there hhr because they love it too.
The rate you set on the first visit usually holds for future appointments. But not on Friday or Saturday. Plan ahead, never be horny on a Friday or Saturday, you will usually get shorted or ripped off with bad service.
Never pay upfront, show her the money and put it back in your pocket. This will help secure the sevice negotiated and avoid upselling. Don't forget to pay at the end.
This only works on Tuesday and Wednesday. Business picks up later in the week and they are getting other calls, you will be ignored.

Always be willing to walk out on the upsell, when I say I want BBBJCIM I also tell them I'm recently showered too. I've been told cim is more money, while I'm laying on the bed with my pants off. I get up to leave, before my hand hits the doorknob they are retracting the upsell.

Negotiations in MP are the same process, when I say I need a BJ and they say HJ, I will only give 20 tip. They say 40, I say don't worry about it and start jerkin off, before I get to the 4th stroke they are doing it for 20. But never on a Friday or Saturday.

While they are giving me the BBBJ I do some upsell in of my own. "I just got one yesterday, this might take awhile. Have you ever given a prostrate massage?" No? "I can teach you". LOL, works most of the time.

Should I add this to my 12 step TOFTT Program?
No GPS for me, stay smart, stay safe.[/QUOTE]Yes well said. Same with metro rider I agree with that also. I love the don't be horny on the weekend. I would have posted in the BP section but worried about being censored. You never know around here. Maybe you should add to the tofft. Because sometimes when they are use to getting $120 hhr that that these bozo's are paying then they cop an additude with you or try to hurry you when you do talk them down.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3572633]First of all I would never make the appointment for anything more than 60 SS. I've been very successful at 30 and 40 if you do it right.[/QUOTE]Good info. My thoughts: Are these girls who you never hit up before or haven't in a Long time, who are "Meh"? Obviously not seemingly GPS, but ones who are a few steps lower than seemingly not GPS, and not ones you'd figure you'd repeat, but heard/remembered they were kosher (or TOFTT)?

[QUOTE]Negotiations in MP are the same process, when I say I need a BJ and they say HJ, I will only give 20 tip. They say 40, I say don't worry about it and start jerkin off, before I get to the 4th stroke they are doing it for 20. But never on a Friday or Saturday.[/QUOTE]But what about the situation where they don't rule out BJ, but throw out two separate prices on each? In your example, it covers the HJ for 20 instead of 40, right? So what if she says 60 if you want me to kiss it, but to touch it, it's 40 ? What angle do you play there?

[QUOTE=Charlie441;3572795]Good info. My thoughts: Are these girls who you never hit up before or haven't in a Long time, who are "Meh"? Obviously not seemingly GPS, but ones who are a few steps lower than seemingly not GPS, and not ones you'd figure you'd repeat, but heard/remembered they were kosher (or TOFTT)?

But what about the situation where they don't rule out BJ, but throw out two separate prices on each? In your example, it covers the HJ for 20 instead of 40, right? So what if she says 60 if you want me to kiss it, but to touch it, it's 40 ? What angle do you play there?[/QUOTE]The 20 HJ is for your typical rub and tug. My cock is just one more muscle for them to massage, They should do their job without attitude! After I tip them 20 I don't plan on seeing them again.

It's rare to find a girl with great massage skills in GR, I'm very picky. I can only think of two girls in GR that have the right skills, and attitude worth rewarding more than 20. Amy at Healthy Habits I've seen her a few times and she is well worth the matching door fee that is expected for a great massage and stellar ending. The other one is Natasha (Queen of Panacea) I have not seen her yet, our schedules haven't worked out and hopefully someday I will have the opportunity to see her. Natasha has had continuous rave reviews from multiple sources over many years, those reviews from many including our seniors have made the statement: she does not require the tip up front and the experience is repeatedly awesome. Do not short these women, just because they don't ask upfront. They are both a rare find in GR, keep them happy with at least a matching door fee.

Answering the HJ / BJ question: The BJ price I will pay reflects a few things, was the massage good, if no I apply the escort price, I can get a BJ for 40 because I don't know if this girl has BJ or prostrate massage skills, I already know she doesn't have the massage skills for me to return. If her massage skills suck she probably has a lousy rushed BJ too. That's why its 40 max.

Do I want to return and get the same great service and she is offering BJ? Will she take direction well? BLS, Swallow and tell you how good you taste, let you see it dripping off her chin then use her finger to swipe it back into her mouth with a slurp and a grin? That girl gets a good tip. At least 60. Those girls no how to work it and end up with sugar daddies.

This is being written on the fight tread so here we go.

A good example of MP GPS is Brittany25. She wants 80 for a half hour, that's 40 for the hhr and 40 tip upfront. I don't get to decide if it was worth tipping and she could be having a rushed or bad day. Sorry I don't play that way. Brittany will never get my business with GPS.

Comment and White Knight her if you want too. It won't change my opinion of a girl that demands tip up front. That is GPS.

Add Linda at Pacific 44th. Everything you described below is her.

[QUOTE=Benz1;3572911]
It's rare to find a girl with great massage skills in GR, I'm very picky. I can only think of two girls in GR that have the right skills, and attitude worth rewarding more than 20. Amy at Healthy Habits I've seen her a few times and she is well worth the matching door fee that is expected for a great massage and stellar ending. The other one is Natasha (Queen of Panacea) I have not seen her yet, our schedules haven't worked out and hopefully someday I will have the opportunity to see her. Natasha has had continuous rave reviews from multiple sources over many years, those reviews from many including our seniors have made the statement: she does not require the tip up front and the experience is repeatedly awesome. Do not short these women, just because they don't ask upfront. They are both a rare find in GR, keep them happy with at least a matching door.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bth9318;3572715]Yes well said. Same with metro rider I agree with that also. I love the don't be horny on the weekend. I would have posted in the BP section but worried about being censored. You never know around here. Maybe you should add to the tofft. Because sometimes when they are use to getting $120 hhr that that these bozo's are paying then they cop an additude with you or try to hurry you when you do talk them down.[/QUOTE]If they want 120 hhr, let some other fool pay that. If we unite on pricing they will have to move to Kalamazoo or Detroit but not Lansing, Lansing mongers won't pay those prices and the girls know it. So it can be done, they also don't share very many links or reviews publicly, you have to earn your stripes to receive the hidden treasures of Lansing.

The choice is ours, they will charge as much as we let them. If roles were reversed, we would do the same, so we can't blame them if they think one or two fools set the price.