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[QUOTE=Kagetora]I would have to agree that the Korean providers are in another league when compared to the white ones. In my experience they are also consistently superior to Chinese, Vietnamese, Filipino, and other Asian providers in looks, attitude and service. Korean providers are #1 in my book.[/QUOTE]
I've found that in both AMPs and K/VBs that Vietnamese are the horniest/nastiest.
[QUOTE=JohnDoughnut]I've found that in both AMPs and K/VBs that Vietnamese are the horniest/nastiest.[/QUOTE]
You also left out expensive.
[QUOTE=Jack Mehoff]You also left out expensive.[/QUOTE]
Hmmm... I really don't think so. Especially in AMPs where the price is a constant (sort of). In the bars, you pay the same amount too; between $$ or $$$. And, with K-girls, play ain't guaranteed.
[QUOTE=JohnDoughnut]Hmmm... I really don't think so. Especially in AMPs where the price is a constant (sort of). In the bars, you pay the same amount too; between $$ or $$$. And, with K-girls, play ain't guaranteed.[/QUOTE]Prices in the kb's and vb's vary greatly depending on what you want. You could end up spending $$$$$ for very little, it is a crapshoot on whether you will get as good service at a kb/vb (except for secret) than at a mp. at least at a mp you are pretty much guaranteed finishing. IMHO, in my experiences at the kb and vb's some pull the more money crap, when you are hot and busy some of them ask for more $$, at the time you are so worked up that it is hard to say no and if you do then the whole mood changes.
BTW, at most of the vb's the standard room rate is now $$$, and that may not even including any services. Stick to MP's if you want to be sure you get serviced.
Someone emailed me this story [url]www.sexwork.com/whatisnew/TERSHUTDOWN.html[/url]
I heard the TBD stories before but not the TER accounts. That's why we mongers need to post good and bad reports.
I did this some time ago, but kept forgetting to post it. And I'm still stumped over what to put down for when an ad in Hawai'i says "Hawaiian," suggestions on that one welcome. Anyhow, here's my version.
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To reduce the confusion for novice readers, here's HornyHaole's version of the Pessimist's Guide to decoding escort ads:
WEIGHT:
BBW = fat
Voluptuous = fat
Volumptuous = fat and can't spell
Curvy = fat
Curvaceous = fat
Thick = fat
Rubenesque = fat
Buxom = fat
Busty = fat
Busty = fat
Bootylicious = fat
Womanly = fat
Hourglass = fat
Full-figured = really fat
Down to earth = fat, and totally given up on being pretty
PHAT = FAT, and that's not an acronym
Apple or onion bottom = fat (like giving it a food term makes her sexy?)
Pic of face only? = fat
Pic of body under bedsheet? = fat
Gives bra size only? = fat
Naturally busty/All natural = fat and saggy
Real woman = fat, old, saggy, ugly, and hates men
BUST:
Slim = no boobs
Svelte = no boobs
Slender = no boobs
Dancer's body = no boobs
Runner = no boobs
Spinner = no boobs
Petite = no boobs
Bombshell = fake boobs
Baywatch = fake boobs
Playboy = fake boobs
Model = fake boobs
Firm = hardened fake boobs
BLACKNESS:
(This next section doesn't mean black girls aren't hot – they are, and me likee. These are just terms that black girls and their pimps use to fancy it up.)
Bi-racial = black
Brazilian = black
Caramel = black
Chocolate = black
Coffee = black
Creole = black
Cuban = black
Ebony = black
Egyptian = black
Ethiopian = black
Exotic = black
Jamaican = black
Mocha = black
Mulatto = black
Nubian = black
Mixed = black
Island girl = black (except in Hawai`i)
Café-au-lait = black and pretentious
Diva = black and old
Dominican = black, except in NYC and FLA, then latina
Hawaiian = black, except in HI, then it's ____ (suggestions welcome)
Light-skinned/complected = black
Dark-skinned/complected = really black
Named after a drink = black
Named after a fruit = black
Named after a gemstone = black
Named after a car = black
Anything else and black = black
ASIANS:
Japanese = from somewhere in asia, no boobs
Chinese = from somewhere in asia
Korean = from somewhere in asia, and old
ELDERLY:
Mature = old
Courtesan = old and overpriced
Gracious = old
Refined = old
Elegant = old
Classy = old
Classic = old
Sophisticated = old
Lady = old
Goddess = old, fat, homely, hippie
MILF = old with stretchmarks, cellulite, and scars
Named after a weather phenomenon = old white trash
Has a last name = old, but is proud she made her own Web site
PUNKS:
Alternative = fat, poor hygiene, went to Lollapalooza once
Goth = old, fat, black clothing, piercings, tats, smells of cloves
Punk = LOTS of tats, chewed fingernails, Marlboros, hairy, unshowered, druggie
Suicide girl = younger and fatter Goth
AGE:
Generally add a few years, here are some frequent exceptions:
College Student = late 20s
Just turned 18 = mid 20s
19 = possible jailbait
21 = late 20s
28 = late 30s
30 = 40s
OTHER BS:
Intelligent = fat and nearsighted
Sorority girl = bleached blonde, bad attitude
Red head = never seen the sun
Selective = overpriced
Exclusive = very overpriced
Freaky = ad written by black or wannabe-black pimp
Nasty = ad written by black pimp, girl hasn't seen ad
Upscale = upseller
All American = white trash
Classy = I have an attitude problem
Cali(fornia) girl = I have an attitude problem, and I'm overpriced
Princess = I have an attitude problem, and don't touch me
T-girl = a man with a mutilated penis
Naughty = I'll only be taking off my top
Party girl = I'll be high on drugs
Kinky = she fucks your ass with a strap-on
Fetish = same as Kinky, but she'll piss on you after
Great ass = "great" is another word for "large"
Las Vegas = Bellagio prices, Motel 6 service
Coed = I once gangbanged a frat
Girl next door = I dress like a boy
Girlfriend experience (GFE) = if your girlfriend was a stone *****
Pornstar experience (PSE) = fake moaning
Energetic = from spazzy to methamphetamine addict
College graduate = high school dropout
Open minded = her clients like to wear diapers
Two girl show = a "show" is something you watch, not participate in
Touch of class = she's saving up for a tramp stamp, extensions and implants
420 friendly = you better have some weed
Snow bunny = you better have some weed and coke
I'm sexy = I dress like the ***** I am, but only when partying with my pimp
Out-going = I'll pester you if I'm broke,or if you cancel a date
Friendly = with Ben Franklin
Too good to be true = finally, truth in advertising
Everything included = no kissing, everything covered
Special rate = what I normally charge
Real pics = from 3-20 years ago
Up to an hour = one shot and she's gone
Discreet = targeting married guys
Discrete = I can't spell
Advance notice required = you'll never get hold of me
Professional = seeks middle-management suckers
Seeks generous gentleman = seeks drunk suckers
Seeks generous businessmen = seeks drunk suckers on expense accounts
Once in a lifetime experience = waaaay overpriced
I love what I do = to myself, in private, with my vibrator
You won't be sorry = I'm homely and desperate for money
Satisfaction guaranteed = my pimp has a gun
You won't be disappointed = handjobs only, and did I mention my pimp's gun?
Available 24/7 = my pimp doesn't let me sleep
AD WRITTEN IN ALL CAPS = my pimp can't type
aD wRiTtEn iN mIxEd cAsE = my pimp is a high school dropout
$$$$AD ABUSES DOLLAR SIGNS$$$$ = my pimp needs more bling
Ad write is brokened English = asian massage sweatshop
"Tired of fakes?" = well, I'm another one
"____" is available = "____"costs double
Starting at $X = multiply $X by two
No explicit questions/Discuss details later = I'm an ex-con
No blocked calls = my last pimp is stalking me
Luxurious incall = studio apartment with mattress on floor
Outcall only = lives with pimp
Massage = no sex or touching me
CMT = certified boring, and no sex
FBSM = strip club air dance
Tantra = no sex, but she rubs smelly oil on your back
I'm so horny = I'm so broke
Bodywork = handjob
Blow you away = standard covered blowjob
Former dancer = "Hooters" fired me
Steady arrangement = you pay extra the first time, and the second, and the third …
Text me at … = phisher
See my pics/profile at … = phisher/spammer
Donations = are fixed, mandatory, and non-refundable
New to business = changed name
New to area = changed name and moved across town
Visiting = wants $50-300 more than local girls, has crappy attitude
Only here for a few days = see Visiting, is also homely
What an ad DOESN'T say, is also a source of information. If the following points aren't specified, you can assume:
hair color = brown
hair length = to shoulder
eye color = brown
age = old
height = extra short or extra tall
weight = fat
cup size = small
measurements = mediocre
no smile in any picture = lousy attitude
[QUOTE=Hornyhaole]I did this some time ago, but kept forgetting to post it. And I'm still stumped over what to put down for when an ad in Hawai'i says "Hawaiian," suggestions on that one welcome. Anyhow, here's my version... [/QUOTE]
lol. true...
[QUOTE=Hornyhaole]
To reduce the confusion for novice readers, here's HornyHaole's version of the Pessimist's Guide to decoding escort ads [/QUOTE]
Very funny! :)
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[QUOTE=Hilo Boy]We are looking for a female escort.
Wondering if anybody has tried Tantra and what is different about that vs a standard escort?[/QUOTE] A former steady girlfriend of mine was into Tantra. Real Tantra practise involves no touching, but rather learning how to stimulate, manage, and control your inner sexual energy. You essentially will learn how to use the breathing technique and improve your ability to control orgasms. There is a variety of information available on the internet. Tantra involves no physical contact although several providers have violated this practise and end the session with a happy ending. A standard escort usually will not have invested in learning Tantra. If an escort does offer the service, then a legitimate Tantra practitioner will actually expect a much larger donation and have a designated private location setup for Tantra practise. I hope this helps.
(From today's Honolulu Advertiser.)
Bill to legalize prostitution looks for more support
The idea may not catch on this session, but a bill to legalize some prostitution in the Islands has the backing of at least 14 lawmakers and many women's rights advocates.
Supporters say they mainly want to start debate of the sensitive topic and explore ways to offer alternatives to decades of selling sex on Honolulu streets. The proposal has the endorsement of 13 co-sponsors in the state House, one sponsor in the Senate and the influential Hawaii Women's Coalition, whose members represent more than 200 organizations.
The prostitution decriminalization bill would permit sexual favors traded in private, and it would designate areas where prostitution is allowed.
"In general, talking about sex is scary for people," said the Rev. Pam Vessels of the United Church of Christ in Kalaupapa on Moloka'i. "We need to talk about it, not get excited about it and throw rocks at each other. Do we really care if consenting adults are engaging in sexual acts for money?"
Although it appears unlikely the bill will get a hearing in either the House or the Senate this session, its advocates hope more lawmakers will support it in time. A resolution may be introduced soon asking the Legislative Reference Bureau to study the proposal.
"It's one of those bills you do it for public dialogue instead of trying to get it passed," said Rep. Bob Herkes, D-5th (Ka'u, S. Kona), one of the bill's co-sponsors. "It helps to find out what the public thinks, and this is the way to do it."
Prostitutes have a hard time getting help if they're hounded by the police in addition to facing the dangers of their profession, said Tracy Ryan, head of the Hawai'i Libertarian Party.
Extensive arrest records make it difficult for them to find legitimate jobs when they want to get out of prostitution, she said.
Laws call for a $500 fine and up to 30 days jail time for soliciting prostitution.
"I've only found a handful of people who think prostitutes should go to prison, even though many people are concerned about prostitution," Ryan said. "By criminalizing them, you're only adding to their problems."
Honolulu police made 339 prostitution arrests in 2005 and 255 in 2004, accounting for less than 1 percent of total arrests, according to annual crime reports. Statistics for 2006 are not available.
Maj. Kevin Lima, commander of the narcotics and vice division, said he opposes the decriminalization bill because it would be more difficult for police to investigate child prostitution if paying for sex between adults were legal.
"There are some unintended consequences of that bill," Lima said. "It's probably not a good idea."
Honolulu has a long history of prostitution dating back to the whaling days, to the red light districts of Chinatown during World War II and streetwalkers in neighborhoods surrounding Waikiki.
Prostitution remains a significant problem today in part because Hawai'i is such a popular tourist destination, Lima said.
These women should be helped out of their situation, but legitimizing them isn't the answer, said Kelly Rosati, a spokeswoman for the Hawai'i Catholic church and executive director for the Hawai'i Family Forum.
"Oftentimes the point at which a woman is arrested is where help begins," Rosati said. "This is exploitation, and the woman deserves to be helped out of this industry."
But others argue that the real issue is that home and business owners don't want prostitutes in their communities, and they don't get much help in jail, said Meda Chesney-Lind, a University of Hawai'i criminologist and author of "The Female Offender."
"Maybe we can start having a conversation about being smart on crime instead of just tough," she said. "We don't criminalize other forms of victimization, so I don't think we should do that for prostitution."
It's interesting that the two most common reasons I always hear for legalizing prostitution, which is to tax them since we can't stop them and to enforce health care standards and checkups on them, weren't specifically mentioned. It seemed like they were basing it more on moral reasons, or the prostitutes' rights. Interesting.
And it was weird to hear about how child prostition laws would become more difficult to enforce. I always thought that legalizing it would also regulate who's okay to be a licensed prostitute. I'm sure the guy knows what he's talking about, but it wasn't that clear to me.
Primal Needs
PN I was also wondering about that. I would assume that it would be harder for child prostitution if it was legalized. As you mentioned you would have to be registerd and all. Anyway I didn't know that it was a problem here anyway. I've not heard anything on it on the news, ever. I do know there are online preditors and all, but that isn't the same.
Morally, do the women hate their jobs? Is it the only things that they can do? In most cases I would like to think not. It's a choice that they make often because it's easy money for them. Were they forced into the business? Did someone put a gun to their head to do it? I think not (again in most cases). I know there are a few cases where they are immegrants and forced into it, but those are very few if any. And that, I would admit is wrong. But if they choose to do it, then why the hell not. and even if they hate thier job, there are tons of people out there who hate their job but still do it.
Tendo
[QUOTE=Kapalua]Maj. Kevin Lima, commander of the narcotics and vice division, said he opposes the decriminalization bill because it would be more difficult for police to investigate child prostitution if paying for sex between adults were legal.[/QUOTE]
How is paying for sex between ADULTS being legal going to make child prostitution investigations harder? If every working girl is regulated; ie-health check ups, background checks (for age verifications amoung drug or other offenses), and practice permits/licenses after passing; there should be no problem with child prostitution. But we all know, this bill won't make it to a hearing anyhow.
[QUOTE=Belut Boy]
How is paying for sex between ADULTS being legal going to make child prostitution investigations harder?[/QUOTE]
It's just a "bogeyman" that law enforcement authorities can conveniently use to oppose any proposal to reform laws against adult prostitution.