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This post has been invaluable to me. It is buried in the California > Oceanside so I am posting the link here. I hope it helps some of the newbies out. It sure did me. Hats off to Yogi for posting such valuable advice.
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=348794&postcount=13[/url]
Be safe and sane
Hey guys, I haven't mongered much or for long and I haven't yet figured out how to accomplish FS in the car. My ride is good sized but has a console in the middle of the front. This works for BJ but not so good when considering FS.
For a BJ I usually hide "in plain sight" in a quiet corner of a parking lot. When her head is down the uninitiated are unlikely to tell what's going on.
The prospect of getting close to naked and giving up the ability to watch all around scares me. So what, or how do you do it? Climb into back seat? Walk in the woods (not in New England in winter)?
Any advice would be great.
Dan
Virgil,
Try using a minivan or SUV. Those cars with the center consoles really suck. They pinch the ribs of the SWs and the resulting BJs are robbed of precision and grace. Seriously, get a beat up truck or van to monger in. Good luck and stay safe.
Peace
Virgil,
Get yourself a MongerMobile™ specially suited to the hobby. You can pick 'em up cheap at auction or through the classifieds. Something old and spacious, as DL suggested. A rust bucket will blend in with most mongering locals, too, and won't put your main ride at risk. You'll just need liability insurance. It's a throw away vehicle.
Nothing screams MONGER! louder than an obvious suburbanite driving a newer car in the hood late at night.
Robux
Virgil,
I have definitely been considering this myself. My vehicle sticks out like a sore thumb in the wrong neighborhoods, which on several occasions has gotten some unwanted attention from Uncle LEO. (My pale skin doesn't help either.) I am leaning towards a mini van for the room...perhaps even a service van of some sort. They are always liquidating these at city auctions cheap. They are fairly nondescript, workers need to drive around slow looking for addresses and such. Not to mention plenty of room and privacy in the back! I just worry that if it looks too much like a old worthless work van that the ladies might not be interested in asking for a ride.
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Lincoln Man - it depends on what you look for. I can only speak to Los Angeles and Las Vegas as those are the only places I have mongered.
If you pick up in downtown Vegas or Boulder strip, any POS will do.
Same thing in Los Angeles for Downtown LA, Figueroa, PCH, etc.
However, if you want the hotties that charge $100+ at places like Sunset Bl in Hollywood, many of the sw will not go anywhere close to a POS.
Ok, I got a number of a girl named Mercedes in LA. DL from the Los Angeles forum went out with her and I remember he said it cost him 100 bucks and 20 bucks for the room for an hour. Now this was about one month ago. So I call her today and she tells me now it's 250 dollars for one hour. My question is if this is normal or should I negotiate or should I just forget doing her.
[QUOTE=Zodar]Ok, I got a number of a girl named Mercedes in LA. DL from the Los Angeles forum went out with her and I remember he said it cost him 100 bucks and 20 bucks for the room for an hour. Now this was about one month ago. So I call her today and she tells me now it's 250 dollars for one hour. My question is if this is normal or should I negotiate or should I just forget doing her.[/QUOTE]
Ask DL if he knows why she went up that high. He may not have shared the full story about his experience...or she has been getting so many calls that she can use the number to scare away the timid, and attract the worthy suckers.
Beyond him...tell her you read she was $100 and that you are willing to meet half way or no deal at all. Let her know that you are a nice guy and you won't waste her time.
If not, move on. Plenty out there to go around. Hell...its LA right!
Zodar,
Sounds like Miss Mercedes has decided to go for the upscale market. The old rates are still available, don't fret. Here in DC there's a bar where the escorts hang out, as well as the pimps and the SWs. The transition she's trying to make will be driven by her perceived value among mongers. That said, she'll have slow nights and days. They all do. If you can't find the bar she hangs at looking for biz, tell her that you were REFERRED to her by one of her other clients and that you're happy to see her when business is slow. Put the ball in her lap. Give her your number. Forget about her. She'll call.
If you don't have a throw away anonymous cash card phone, get one. It will pay for itself with the money you'll save.
Now submit a f'ing field report and get some cred. You, as a newbie, because you've asked here humbly, are being granted special dispensation by us Seniors. I usually tell newbies with only one post to RTFF. Must have caught me in a giving mood. *grumble* :)
Robux
Virgil,
I'm on my third full size Ford Bronco. The back rests fold down onto the seat cushions and then the entire assembly can be flipped up to rest right in back of the front seats. I have listened to music, and drank champagne with many women, fully naked stretched out in the rear of each of my mongermobiles. If you choose you can easily remove the entire rear seat and leave it at home. All of my mongermobiles have been used and carried only liability insurance. The rear windows are slightly timted so that you can't see inside from a few feet away but you can see very clearly from the inside out. I have never, ever paid for a hotel room when I picked up a street walker. I have tapped ass in every basic position in the rear of my SUV. The carpet must be FULL of DNA.
I took some pictures from the inside of my Mongermobile.
I have always visited escorts, I haven't been interested in picking up SWs until tonight.
At E Lake Street and 4th Ave (a popular intersection for SW in Mpls) there was a cutie named China. She asked me if I was a cop and then said that she wasn't a cop. Then she asked me for a date, when I replied no, she said how about a ride. I declined both offers partly due to lack of funds and partly out of fear of getting arrested.
I would really like to go back and find this women. However, based on the above encounter, is it possible that she is an undercover cop? If she was an undercover cop wouldn't she try to get me to discuss specific amounts of money for specific acts? She is the best looking SW I have seen.
QUOTE=Anything Cool
"I have always visited escorts, I haven't been interested in picking up SWs until tonight."
That's to bad. Your mileage is a lot better with a SW. Average is 2 jacksons for FS and a single for BJ. Compare that to $ as a starting price for an escort, then the tips. On the other hand, the quality isn't as good.
"At E Lake Street and 4th Ave (a popular intersection for SW in Mpls) there was a cutie named China. She asked me if I was a cop and then said that she wasn't a cop. Then she asked me for a date, when I replied no, she said how about a ride. I declined both offers partly due to lack of funds and partly out of fear of getting arrested."
You should have been fairly safe with the ride. You are in a better position to have her do the show and tell routine. 1) LE won't get in your car 99% of the time. Most cities have a policy against the officers getting into your car, even if they are on a sting. Please keep in mind that some cities don't follow this rule. NEVER begin negotations unless the SW gets into your car. Don't answer any questions unless she gets into your car.
As mongers, we are in a better position to keep ourselvs safer than the SW's. When a SW gets in your car, drive away immediatly. Keep your eyes open and scan for followers. Ask the girl if she is a cop. When she tells you she isn't, ask her to prove it. She should falsh you, or grab your tool. You will in turn touch her as well. Do not for any reason touch her first!
After the above has been completed, discuss services, still not discussing $. At this point, you could ask for a BJ, FS or whatever. If there are no flashing lights behind you, it's a date. Discuss $ then.
"I would really like to go back and find this women. However, based on the above encounter, is it possible that she is an undercover cop? "
See above
"If she was an undercover cop wouldn't she try to get me to discuss specific amounts of money for specific acts? She is the best looking SW I have seen."
Go back and find her. Chances are you will never see her again. Most girls only work long enough to get money to civer a fix, food and room for the day.
Every now and then, a girl that has developed enough regulars, has a slow day and has to resort to hitting the road. These tend to be in a little better condition as well as offering a GFE.
Happy hunting.
MO
T B Prince,
Props to a master.
Peace
Fellows,
I don't really know on how many different occassions I have passed on a really cute sw because she was standing with a group or at least a guy, let put the word out that they would get a little more business if they would at least walk away from the guy, this make me really uneasy, so for those of you who pick up with the guy standing there be sure to mention this, for those who don't and pick up girls who are by themselves, be sure to tell them to mention this to their girl friends.
Thanks and lets all be saft and have fun!