"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=ToeLover57;2938410]I had four dinner / lunch dates in three weeks with DnD, 23 Richmond on Seeking Arrangements. Said she needed time before anything intimate. So we did four dates in three weeks. Bought her 2 pair of shoes, VS bra and gave her some cash for summer school textbooks. Last date was lunch yesterday. She wasn't too talkative and keep asking what time it was. After an hour she remembered she had to leave earlier than expected.

I sent her a text last night that I didn't get a reply from. Now I see she blocked me on SA. I used my secondary profile to look and she is still online there. So definitely blocked.

I got rinsed for about 600 counting meals, shoes and cash. Take your chances with her if you dare.[/QUOTE]Ouch. Remember the golden rule, Fuck First Pay Later.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2938578]Ouch. Remember the golden rule, Fuck First Pay Later.[/QUOTE]As I have read here before. No pay until the panties hit the floor. You need to read this forum a lot more before jumping in the bowl. Good luck.

[QUOTE=ToeLover57;2938410]I had four dinner / lunch dates in three weeks with DnD, 23 Richmond on Seeking Arrangements. Said she needed time before anything intimate. So we did four dates in three weeks. Bought her 2 pair of shoes, VS bra and gave her some cash for summer school textbooks. Last date was lunch yesterday. She wasn't too talkative and keep asking what time it was. After an hour she remembered she had to leave earlier than expected.

I sent her a text last night that I didn't get a reply from. Now I see she blocked me on SA. I used my secondary profile to look and she is still online there. So definitely blocked.

I got rinsed for about 600 counting meals, shoes and cash. Take your chances with her if you dare.[/QUOTE]Toe,

As I'm sure you now know only too well, you were taken advantage of. The wisdom contained in this clubhouse journal is real, hard-won, and not to be dismissed lightly.
You should have known better, but that said, I applaud you for outing this Bad Baby. While I fish in a more northern pond, I'm sure my brothers in Richmond appreciate the warning. I just wish for your sake it had come cheaper.

Onward, with eyes more open,

Scott

[QUOTE=FScott;2938698]Toe,

As I'm sure you now know only too well, you were taken advantage of. The wisdom contained in this clubhouse journal is real, hard-won, and not to be dismissed lightly.
You should have known better, but that said, I applaud you for outing this Bad Baby. While I fish in a more northern pond, I'm sure my brothers in Richmond appreciate the warning. I just wish for your sake it had come cheaper.

Onward, with eyes more open,

Scott[/QUOTE]Toe. Sorry man. It sucks, but learn from it and onward. I usually sort these women out at the first M&G. I tell them I'm willing to wine and dine to an extent, but there will be no gifts / cash until there is intimacy. The girls that are looking for a mark say no. The true SB's stick around.

[QUOTE=BikeRider;2938841]Toe. Sorry man. It sucks, but learn from it and onward. I usually sort these women out at the first M&G. I tell them I'm willing to wine and dine to an extent, but there will be no gifts / cash until there is intimacy. The girls that are looking for a mark say no. The true SB's stick around.[/QUOTE]We need to maintain the same policy to weed out the rinsers.

[QUOTE=BikeRider;2938841]Toe. Sorry man. It sucks, but learn from it and onward. I usually sort these women out at the first M&G. I tell them I'm willing to wine and dine to an extent, but there will be no gifts / cash until there is intimacy. The girls that are looking for a mark say no. The true SB's stick around.[/QUOTE]Yeah I should have known better. She got me after I had a string of no replies from other hot young babes. She knows how to work it seeming so excited to be taken shopping and promising fun to come soon. I have to toughen up and not fall for the pretty please.

[QUOTE=ToeLover57;2939204]Yeah I should have known better. She got me after I had a string of no replies from other hot young babes. She knows how to work it seeming so excited to be taken shopping and promising fun to come soon. I have to toughen up and not fall for the pretty please.[/QUOTE]We all do! One of the hardest lessons I had to learn was that saying "yes dear" all of the time can actually work against you. For instance, you're at a bar and a gorgeous babe asks you to buy her a drink (or maybe for her and her friends). Most guys will fall over themselves to do it. I fell for this more than once in my 20's. The girls say thanks and walk away. They definitely don't value you.

Instead. Make them work for the drink some how. I usually now hit them back with - "why should I buy you a drink?" and look them up and down, or "only if you buy me one first". Some walk away for an easier mark. Some stay, and we end talking for a while and I get a number (or better) out of it.

The moral of the story is people seldom value things that come easy. You'll do well when you can make the baby work for it without her knowing it and while she's having fun doing it.

[QUOTE=ToeLover57;2938410]I had four dinner / lunch dates in three weeks with DnD, 23 Richmond on Seeking Arrangements. Said she needed time before anything intimate. So we did four dates in three weeks. Bought her 2 pair of shoes, VS bra and gave her some cash for summer school textbooks. Last date was lunch yesterday. She wasn't too talkative and keep asking what time it was. After an hour she remembered she had to leave earlier than expected.

I sent her a text last night that I didn't get a reply from. Now I see she blocked me on SA. I used my secondary profile to look and she is still online there. So definitely blocked.

I got rinsed for about 600 counting meals, shoes and cash. Take your chances with her if you dare.[/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with a SB needing some time to feel a connection before being intimate. HOWEVER, to pay an allowance during this 'warming up' time only makes you a mark and should never be done in my opinion (unless paying for platonic dates is your thing). I'm ok with treating an attractive girl for lunch a couple of times if I have nothing else going on, but I make it clear there is NO allowance during this time. If her intent is to rinse, she won't agree and you've saved your time and $, if she agrees you are locking in a SB in training. Of course, these dates are low priority if conflicting with a FC date with a SB.

Ok it looks like a few people are posting actual info on SBs. FYI, Mayaaw 19, Varina AA is not into intimate encounters just wants to have fun on the town.

My brothers,

I think the time for Toe-bashing has passed. In my opinion, he was courageous to step forward and tell his story, knowing full well that he had been rinsed, but wanting to save his fellow Richmond brothers from a similar fate. That deserves respect, am I right? Now, if it happens a second time, then let's all pile on, but I am certain this lesson has been well-learned, and we shall hear no more from him regarding Victoria's Secret bras unless it is a picture of one wrapped around his shiniest New Baby!

On another subject, my SO and I recently moved back into the city where I fish, and I have a new job which requires me to visit many neighborhoods in the city on a continuing basis, and I have been having the most awesome, intense and enjoyable Proustian experiences as I have been driving clients around this past year or so.

I have been in the Bowl for almost six years, and pretty much everywhere I go these days I am reminded of some Baby or another, and I have to admit it is pretty wonderful.

I know many of you swear by the rule of keeping your Home Base and Sugar Bowl far apart, but I feel like I have to advocate just a bit for the opposite. Everywhere I go I get a woodie because of some intense memory of fucking an HYB, and I must confess it is a lot of fun! I am waiting for the day that I show a property in a building where I had a baby, but I'm sure it will happen eventually.

All this to say that life is good, rich, complex and amazing!

Cheers to you all, and keep up the good work! This is the BEST thread on the site, with the most civilized brothers ever, recent tempests-in-teapots notwithstanding.

Boats against the current,

Scott

I'd stay away from her, she's one of the bad ones I've dealt with. Greedy little SB that thinks sending videos of herself are sufficient when she originally said she'd meet up. Big time scammer.

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2937563]My wife worked 10 years for AVEDA at the corporate level, doing salon development. Half her time and energy was holding their hands and the other half of her time and energy was spent trying to slap some sense into them.

When she left, I asked if she wanted to open a hair salon. "No Fucking Way, Bitches be Crazy".

They are notoriously temperamental. They believe they have a "following" and their clients will cross town and fields of lava to bask in their creative genius (now translate this mentality into pussy). They will walk out on a salon en masses to try to teach the owner a lesson.[/QUOTE]Notes from the field:

We hit a bar the liquor starts flowing. She's getting touchy, feely. We get to my place, watch some TV and she watches TV with her head laying in my crotch. I pull out and she gives a little bit of oral, but doesn't finish the job. It was like a drunken wet tease and then she passes out. Next morning we have breakfast out, I drop her off home. She falls off the face of the earth. No response to text, isn't picking up the phone or anything. It's been days. Totally weird. Nothing went wrong in the date at all. This is the flakiest, blue ball experience EVER.

Were you one of her first Sugar Dates? If so, its not completely out of the blue (forgive the pun).

I've encountered babies who are new to the bowl that love the idea of the sugar lifestlye in theory but can't go through with it once they realize what its about. I suspect that for them, it comes too close to being a prostitute.

I took one baby out on a lunch date and ended it with a very nice open mouth, very passionate French kiss. No FC trip because I had plans with the SO at night. I exchanged a few texts with the pot about how she enjoyed our time together and made plans for our next date. Two days later she completely disappears and her profile disappears of SA.

Some girls love the idea of being a baby, but when the reality of it all begins to sink in, often times its just too much too handle.

Another possibility. She is playing the age old game of keeping you in the dark.

[QUOTE=HoyaSvnFgr;2940095]Notes from the field:

We hit a bar the liquor starts flowing. She's getting touchy, feely. We get to my place, watch some TV and she watches TV with her head laying in my crotch. I pull out and she gives a little bit of oral, but doesn't finish the job. It was like a drunken wet tease and then she passes out. Next morning we have breakfast out, I drop her off home. She falls off the face of the earth. No response to text, isn't picking up the phone or anything. It's been days. Totally weird. Nothing went wrong in the date at all. This is the flakiest, blue ball experience EVER.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FScott;2939968]
I know many of you swear by the rule of keeping your Home Base and Sugar Bowl far apart, but I feel like I have to advocate just a bit for the opposite. Everywhere I go I get a woodie because of some intense memory of fucking an HYB, and I must confess it is a lot of fun! I am waiting for the day that I show a property in a building where I had a baby, but I'm sure it will happen eventually. [/QUOTE]Guilty as charged. I think I'm the primary offender in terms of religiously keeping a safe radius to my home area, but I always disclose that my way of doing things is not necessarily right for everyone. I don't play close to home because I had a been-there-done-that situation back during my days of marriage. It got to a point where I had fucked so many women in a metro area of a few million that it seemed like I couldn't go anywhere with my then-spouse without either seeing one of them, one of their friends, or having some other sort of close encounter that just made me nervous. After a while I started to realize cheating had a cumulative effect, and the more I did it the more I had to look over my shoulder. There was only one solution to sleeping well at nights, pre-emptively seek a divorce and split assets while things were still on equal terms!

That's not my situation now, my situation is simply that I don't like the stress of looking over my shoulder. I find that babies in other cities that know I'm just passing through accept my situation, they know their time with me might be fleeting, and that just happens to work well for my situation because I don't have to make promises about being their knight in shining armor that's going to let them start stacking up their shampoo bottles in my shower. God knows that if I were willing to do that I would be dizzy from swimming in pussy. But I have a real relationship that grounds me and that I've committed to seeing through (whether that means it ends next month, next year, or never, but I have committed to doing the best I can in it so that will land wherever it will).

I get the impression here some of these brothers hate their wives and / or their life outside of their sugaring escape, and in some ways may be using the bowl to empower them to do what they really want to do. Certainly nothing wrong with that, getting lots of pussy is a great way to clear the mind (sort of a variation on what Chris Elliott used to call "cleaning the pipes". LOL).

So yeah, if you can play close to home safely (or within the risk boundaries you consider acceptable), then by all means have at it. I've even considered renting private office space within reasonable driving proximity to home (cheaper than an apartment+utilities) just to have a regular discreet fuck chamber to take them to. But when sex is done right my girls get kind of noisy and some of these rooms are maybe 100 sqft, sitting amidst other offices where people are trying to work. LOL. So that may not go over well. Maybe I just need a custom van with upgraded suspension for the extra vigorous poundings? Then all I need is a reasonable place to park.

Haven't posted for quite a while. Probably having too much fun to write. The current lineup is varied and keeps me busy. And satisfied. In order of my priorities:

1. Fuck Bunny: Pic is attached. Met her when she was 18. She is 20 now. Hottest little piece of ass I ever had. She is cute, pleasant, funny, petitely well built, energetic and a total nymphomaniac. She is sex heroin. I can never get enough. Even after 4 hours of wild fucking and sucking I still want more. All good things must come to an end, but I hope the end for this is far, far away.

2. Double Team Bunnies: One is white, the other black early 20's, good looking. The white girl is thin and the black girl is chunky. And they like to play together. We have realized every FMF fantasy I can imagine. My favorite is sitting on one of their faces while she tongue fucks my ass while the other other gives me hot, sloppy DT. OMFG! I get hard just thinking about it. Or, making out with one while the other fucks me or sucks me off. It's like having sex with a two headed woman.

3. Stripper Bunny: Strippers don't always make the best SBs, but this rule has some exceptions. She used to be a stripper but has "retired. " She is in her mid-20's, pretty, well tatted, nice tits, a little chubby / rounded and very skilled. She can DT me like a Hoover and is very multi-orgasmic, which I love. She likes her nipples pinched very hard as she cums. I pinch them with 100% force and no other woman has ever been able to tolerate that much less enjoy it. She is a squirter. I find that very hot. She is about as open minded as a woman gets. She'll try anything: anal, ass munching, 3-somes, other couples, bondage. If I can think of it she'll do it. Fuck Bunny is my sleek thorougbred but Stripper Bunny is my sexual workhorse.

4. Girl Next Door Bunny: 19, cute, well built, modest and nave. She has a kid, lives with her sister and likes to make extra money on the side. She advertised on Craig's list and I was lucky enough to be her first paid gig. She's not the most experienced or skilled or enthusiastic provider, but she is agreeable to do anything to please, even if she doesn't like it. It is perversely thrilling to have her do anything I want. I have trained her to be my obedient fuck doll.

5. MILF Bunny: Late 30's, Pretty and chubby. Horniest woman I ever met. She has my zipper down in 5 seconds of getting together and is hungrily sucking and begging to be fucked. She will do absolutely anything. Brought along a friend from out of town last time. They both couldn't get enough. Hot, wet, and wild!

Life is good my brothers.

I'm a newbie to the SD / SB scene but have much experience elsewhere on this forum I joined SA for a month and met a few nice ladies who I still see. What I don't understand are the scammers and why they are even on the SA site? Peeezy Hrd2 hndlMilf Shewontfindout all tried to scam me. I use the word "tried" because I'm not stupid but why string someone along then not show up or just stop texting etc. I'm getting pretty good at weeding through the BS and meeting some nice young ladies though. One woman I see just met someone last night in a hotel and he grabbed her by the neck and tried to rape her. He hit her in the head too. She was able to get away but is pretty shaken up. Lot's of fucked up people out there.

It's not uncommon at all for girl to abruptly stop communicating or flake on a date. There can be many reasons, one is that they are a scammed and determined you are not an easy mark and choose to move on. If they are a pro or UTR, they often are juggling many clients and dealing with substance abuse or pimp issues which make them very unreliable. New girls are often unsure what they truly want and easily get cold feet or think they have found a better option.

I always treat them as if they are new and have cold feet. Be kind and understanding. Pros, UTR's and Scammers don't care and move on. True newbies may be comforted and come back after seeing their options. I've had this work successfully several times.

Be patient and remember the wisdom of the founders of this thread and "do no harm".

[QUOTE=Fixter;2941780]I'm a newbie to the SD / SB scene but have much experience elsewhere on this forum I joined SA for a month and met a few nice ladies who I still see. What I don't understand are the scammers and why they are even on the SA site? Peeezy Hrd2 hndlMilf Shewontfindout all tried to scam me. I use the word "tried" because I'm not stupid but why string someone along then not show up or just stop texting etc. I'm getting pretty good at weeding through the BS and meeting some nice young ladies though. One woman I see just met someone last night in a hotel and he grabbed her by the neck and tried to rape her. He hit her in the head too. She was able to get away but is pretty shaken up. Lot's of fucked up people out there.[/QUOTE]

New POT. Had our M&G and things went well. I talked about the GFE being more of my goal. She's new to SA and says I'm her first date. She's 21, decent looks and body. She's working part-time in retail and preparing for college in the fall. I meet her at the mall where she works and we leave for dinner. No sugar convo, but it was a good dinner date and drinks. A perfectly normal date. I dropped her off at home at the end of the night.

She texted me this morning asking "How much dck do I need to suck to be your only SB? I was absolutely floored! I never quantified the favors. I think this SB won my heart. I can't wait for the second date.

Dam I got exhausted just reading your post!! Love it.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;2940652]Haven't posted for quite a while. Probably having too much fun to write. The current lineup is varied and keeps me busy. And satisfied. In order of my priorities:

1. Fuck Bunny: Pic is attached. Met her when she was 18. She is 20 now. Hottest little piece of ass I ever had. She is cute, pleasant, funny, petitely well built, energetic and a total nymphomaniac. She is sex heroin. I can never get enough. Even after 4 hours of wild fucking and sucking I still want more. All good things must come to an end, but I hope the end for this is far, far away.

2. Double Team Bunnies: One is white, the other black early 20's, good looking. The white girl is thin and the black girl is chunky. And they like to play together. We have realized every FMF fantasy I can imagine. My favorite is sitting on one of their faces while she tongue fucks my ass while the other other gives me hot, sloppy DT. OMFG! I get hard just thinking about it. Or, making out with one while the other fucks me or sucks me off. It's like having sex with a two headed woman.

3. Stripper Bunny: Strippers don't always make the best SBs, but this rule has some exceptions. She used to be a stripper but has "retired. " She is in her mid-20's, pretty, well tatted, nice tits, a little chubby / rounded and very skilled. She can DT me like a Hoover and is very multi-orgasmic, which I love. She likes her nipples pinched very hard as she cums. I pinch them with 100% force and no other woman has ever been able to tolerate that much less enjoy it. She is a squirter. I find that very hot. She is about as open minded as a woman gets. She'll try anything: anal, ass munching, 3-somes, other couples, bondage. If I can think of it she'll do it. Fuck Bunny is my sleek thorougbred but Stripper Bunny is my sexual workhorse.

4. Girl Next Door Bunny: 19, cute, well built, modest and nave. She has a kid, lives with her sister and likes to make extra money on the side. She advertised on Craig's list and I was lucky enough to be her first paid gig. She's not the most experienced or skilled or enthusiastic provider, but she is agreeable to do anything to please, even if she doesn't like it. It is perversely thrilling to have her do anything I want. I have trained her to be my obedient fuck doll.

5. MILF Bunny: Late 30's, Pretty and chubby. Horniest woman I ever met. She has my zipper down in 5 seconds of getting together and is hungrily sucking and begging to be fucked. She will do absolutely anything. Brought along a friend from out of town last time. They both couldn't get enough. Hot, wet, and wild!

Life is good my brothers.[/QUOTE]

Dear Brothers,

I am not circumcised and my tool gets chafed and the foreskin has superficial tears after intercourse. I do use lube and the room for improvement in terms of the amount applied is very small. I think dryness can be ruled out so what else could be the reason? Can intercourse without being fully erect cause the foreskin to be loose and get caught and subsequently pulled back and forth?

Thank you for your patience.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;2940652]Haven't posted for quite a while. Probably having too much fun to write. The current lineup is varied and keeps me busy. And satisfied. In order of my priorities:

1. Fuck Bunny:
2. Double Team Bunnies:
3. Stripper Bunny:
4. Girl Next Door Bunny:
5. MILF Bunny:

Life is good my brothers.[/QUOTE]Congrats Party man!. How often do you see each one, how many hours do you spend / month with them combined , and what is your monthly budget for all that sucking and fucking? Do you have an SO? I would guess no. This kind of activity would be hard to do with a wife around, and a lot of money to hide from her as well.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2942202]Dear Brothers,

I am not circumcised and my tool gets chafed and the foreskin has superficial tears after intercourse. I do use lube and the room for improvement in terms of the amount applied is very small. I think dryness can be ruled out so what else could be the reason? Can intercourse without being fully erect cause the foreskin to be loose and get caught and subsequently pulled back and forth?

Thank you for your patience.[/QUOTE]Friction is the problem, and most likely semi erection allows an excess of tension on the foreskin. See a Urologist 1st. I would make sure you are medicated adequately to generate the hardest erection possible for you. You might need a circumcision. A third choice would be a small amount of Testosterone cream to the foreskin. It will thicken the skin, but don't take so much that your testicular function is suppressed -unless you need Testosterone anyway. Good luck! That will be $100 please.

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;2942032]It's not uncommon at all for girl to abruptly stop communicating or flake on a date. There can be many reasons, one is that they are a scammed and determined you are not an easy mark and choose to move on. If they are a pro or UTR, they often are juggling many clients and dealing with substance abuse or pimp issues which make them very unreliable. New girls are often unsure what they truly want and easily get cold feet or think they have found a better option.

I always treat them as if they are new and have cold feet. Be kind and understanding. Pros, UTR's and Scammers don't care and move on. True newbies may be comforted and come back after seeing their options. I've had this work successfully several times.

Be patient and remember the wisdom of the founders of this thread and "do no harm".[/QUOTE]I appreciate your expertise here. Very well stated and it was well received. I have met a few women on SA who are very nice but obviously new to this as I am. My experience in other areas has helped me and I am nice and compassionate with all women I meet. Thank you!

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2942435]...It will thicken the skin, but don't take so much that your testicular function is suppressed -unless you need Testosterone anyway. Good luck! That will be $100 please.[/QUOTE]A green note with a picture of Ben Franklin is on its way to you!

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2942435]...See a Urologist 1st. I would make sure you are medicated adequately to generate the hardest erection possible for you...[/QUOTE]I got a prescription for the blue pill from my primary care physician is it better to go to a urologist? Anyway I started with 50 mg (cut a 100 mg into two) and got very may be too hard so I cut the 50 mg into two and the result was just right but subsequent trips were not as good as a result I went back to 50 mg but the effect was not like the first time.

Is it normal for the blue pill to lose its efficacy with continued use? Will Cialis or anything else be better I. E. Consistent results with the same dose over time.

Where could one obtain the Testosterone cream. Any particular brand. Are online pharmacies good for this?

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2942435]Friction is the problem, and most likely semi erection allows an excess of tension on the foreskin. See a Urologist 1st. I would make sure you are medicated adequately to generate the hardest erection possible for you. You might need a circumcision. A third choice would be a small amount of Testosterone cream to the foreskin. It will thicken the skin, but don't take so much that your testicular function is suppressed -unless you need Testosterone anyway. Good luck! That will be $100 please.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ToeLover57;2938410]I had four dinner / lunch dates in three weeks with DnD, 23 Richmond on Seeking Arrangements. Said she needed time before anything intimate. So we did four dates in three weeks. Bought her 2 pair of shoes, VS bra and gave her some cash for summer school textbooks. Last date was lunch yesterday. She wasn't too talkative and keep asking what time it was. After an hour she remembered she had to leave earlier than expected.

I sent her a text last night that I didn't get a reply from. Now I see she blocked me on SA. I used my secondary profile to look and she is still online there. So definitely blocked.

I got rinsed for about 600 counting meals, shoes and cash. Take your chances with her if you dare.[/QUOTE]Toe. Sorry that happened. Thanks for the heads up.

Stark.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2942430]Congrats Party man!. How often do you see each one, how many hours do you spend / month with them combined , and what is your monthly budget for all that sucking and fucking? Do you have an SO? I would guess no. This kind of activity would be hard to do with a wife around, and a lot of money to hide from her as well.[/QUOTE]No SO so my time and money is my own. I see each one 2 to 3 times a month. Normally I spend at least 2 hours with each with a max of 4 and an average of 3. They are various levels of donation from less than zero (she pays for everything) for MILF Bunny to $ and a half for Fuck Bunny. It averages out to a little more than about $ per session, plus hotel. About 2. 5 k per month. I know. That's relatively inexpensive for all that action. But I have discovered it pays to find the right kind of SBs who are in it for more than just the dough. It has taken me a long time to develop each one and I have a little time to hunt for really good potential replacements in the wings with no hurry to do anything new until it is just right.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2942601]I got a prescription for the blue pill from my primary care physician is it better to go to a urologist? Anyway I started with 50 mg (cut a 100 mg into two) and got very may be too hard so I cut the 50 mg into two and the result was just right but subsequent trips were not as good as a result I went back to 50 mg but the effect was not like the first time.

Is it normal for the blue pill to lose its efficacy with continued use? Will Cialis or anything else be better I. E. Consistent results with the same dose over time.[/QUOTE]Tolerance can develop. Make sure it is Brand name, not expired, and take on an empty stomach. It will not work as well if you have eaten anything in the past 4-6 hours. Go up to 100 Mg if 50 does not work well.

Lebruno : Testosterone is highly regulated because of abuse / doping. You have to get it from an MD. There are clinics popping up all around that advertise male treatment for ED and Low T.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2942202]Dear Brothers,

I am not circumcised and my tool gets chafed and the foreskin has superficial tears after intercourse. I do use lube and the room for improvement in terms of the amount applied is very small. I think dryness can be ruled out so what else could be the reason? [/QUOTE]Are your sure it isn't a lube issue? Have you tried different lubes? Could it be type over quantity used?

My point is the "standard" drug store lube "stuff" can tend to dry out and / or get sticky on you. That is what happens to me with Astroglide.

Check out the numerous options at this site:

[URL]http://www.condomdepot.com/show-all-lubes/[/URL]

Note several products are "staff picks". I like the Wet products and Pjur products also get high marks. Note the differences between water-based and silicon based (do NOT use with condoms).

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2942202]Dear Brothers,

I am not circumcised and my tool gets chafed and the foreskin has superficial tears after intercourse. I do use lube and the room for improvement in terms of the amount applied is very small. I think dryness can be ruled out so what else could be the reason? Can intercourse without being fully erect cause the foreskin to be loose and get caught and subsequently pulled back and forth?

Thank you for your patience.[/QUOTE]Had a similar problem and it caused all types of STD paranoia. The Bowl has been the most sex I've ever gotten and the most partners. Even with condom use I get some irritation. Hand play and friction can also cause some micro tears. The best thing I've found is to take a break once in awhile. I used this cream called "man 1 oil" and it worked for me.

[QUOTE=Lebruno;2942821]Where could one obtain the Testosterone cream. Any particular brand. Are online pharmacies good for this?[/QUOTE]I use JCM pharmacy. From India, they are a reliable source (unlike most online pharmacies), they are responsive to emails, many ways to pay and I did get the stuff I ordered within 15-16 days via USPS. My friends have ordered viagara, etc from them. They work fine, no problems. They do have testosterone products.

GG.

Hello fellow mongers. I have been on the forum for about 6 years and mostly gone the way of escorts, BP, and sometimes UTRs from friends. I am venturing down the SB avenue and have had some inital luck. I am thinking this route although maybe more work, might pay off well for getting what we all want. Met two girls on SA, the first one last year and she was a total freak 22 yo VCU girl, but now she is in a serous relationship and does not want any side action. I had an encounter this week with "SweetSugarbaby" from SA and wondering if anyone has met her before (PM me). The encounter was a bit strange but I did get some nice action from her in the end. At any rate I am reading the forum and can take all the advice you can offer as my goal is to build up a book of SBs. Besides SA what other sites does anyone recommend who has has success. Thanks.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2943085]Tolerance can develop. Make sure it is Brand name, not expired, and take on an empty stomach. It will not work as well if you have eaten anything in the past 4-6 hours. Go up to 100 Mg if 50 does not work well..[/QUOTE]I also have found that taking it on an empty stomach with a glass of grapefruit or orange juice boosts the effect. I get mine from All Day Chemist, an Indian pharmacy, and find that the intensity can vary from pill to pill. I assume this is just a quality control issue. Overall, I've been extremely pleased with their generic V.

We all have stories about ways the girls need help. I've taken a few for groceries or to pay their rent after we have had our fun.

Today I met a new girl who lived out in the country. We decided to meet first at the Burger King near her. So I get 5 minutes out and text her I'm almost there. She texts me back if I would mind putting some gas in her car. I said ok and she texts back that she was sitting at the pump.

Sure enough as I pulled in she was waving parked at the pump. Put some gas in her car and then followed her to her house.

I did a gas and go, and a pump and go today. She got filled up in more ways than one!

Anyone else get a stuffy nose after taking vitamin V?

It's annoying, especially after playing with a new baby since the stuffy nose tends to make them think I might be sick.

[QUOTE=FScott;2943669]I also have found that taking it on an empty stomach with a glass of grapefruit or orange juice boosts the effect. I get mine from All Day Chemist, an Indian pharmacy, and find that the intensity can vary from pill to pill. I assume this is just a quality control issue. Overall, I've been extremely pleased with their generic V.[/QUOTE]

Really? You managed to get a pump and go deal with just a gas and go. LOL. Thats a cool deal.

[QUOTE=ToeLover57;2944798]We all have stories about ways the girls need help. I've taken a few for groceries or to pay their rent after we have had our fun.

Today I met a new girl who lived out in the country. We decided to meet first at the Burger King near her. So I get 5 minutes out and text her I'm almost there. She texts me back if I would mind putting some gas in her car. I said ok and she texts back that she was sitting at the pump.

Sure enough as I pulled in she was waving parked at the pump. Put some gas in her car and then followed her to her house.

I did a gas and go, and a pump and go today. She got filled up in more ways than one![/QUOTE]

I have mentioned I have been searching and wanting to cut my current SB loose. So used the ol' well my pay is changing and I won't be able to help as much. Keep in mind we really have only been seeing each other 2 x month the last 4-5 months and about 9 months overall. And it is due to a lot of circumstances beyond her control. And I get it but hey. Not meeting my needs. Anyway. She is like. Oh that's ok. I can get an extra job for awhile and we can just stay in more when we get ttogether. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. She goes ghost for about a week. Did not reply to a couple of messages. And poof!. I get a text the other day wanting to meet up this week. She of course forgot to pay her phone bill. Does not have a car. Then lost her phone. FYI. This is all totally right in line with her past. Especially since I normally pay her phone but did not last time as I gave her cash to do so since I was going out of town. Sooooo anyway. Looks like I can cut my expenses and get some. With a reduced allowance I may hang for a bit with the 2 x month (she has a little boy and does work so her schedule is tight. As is her pussy) while I look for the better new SB.

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2945564]Anyone else get a stuffy nose after taking vitamin V?

It's annoying, especially after playing with a new baby since the stuffy nose tends to make them think I might be sick.[/QUOTE]When I need a real performance I do a mix of cialis 5 mg and V 15 mg (1/3 of 50 mg tablet). No side effects other than having a loaded missle for 1-3 days.

Toe- can you clean out your in box- tried to send you a PM. Thanks.

[QUOTE=ToeLover57;2944798]We all have stories about ways the girls need help. I've taken a few for groceries or to pay their rent after we have had our fun.

Today I met a new girl who lived out in the country. We decided to meet first at the Burger King near her. So I get 5 minutes out and text her I'm almost there. She texts me back if I would mind putting some gas in her car. I said ok and she texts back that she was sitting at the pump.

Sure enough as I pulled in she was waving parked at the pump. Put some gas in her car and then followed her to her house.

I did a gas and go, and a pump and go today. She got filled up in more ways than one![/QUOTE]