"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;6306932]As soon as I see the line about getting her attention by getting something form the wish list it is an automatic skip. I know most on this forum get this but I have gotten some of the best pussy I have ever had from sweet submissive women on SA that are not necessarily models (although there have been a few LOL) but are beautiful to me. And you know that's all that counts. I hit two this past week for 200 and 300 and they both hosted. I had a good week to say the least. Sorry for the rant here I simply got excited LOL.

As always may the pussy be with you.

SD.[/QUOTE]One of the many reasons Seeking has gone down hill was the stupid wish list they added. All that did was create more expectation of being able to scam / grift from a simp. I've been on the lookout for a new UTR sugarbowl website, if anyone has done any research they'd care to share on this subject, please PM your findings.

[QUOTE=PeterPan;6306615]Hey guys,

I noted some good dialogue on succulent sweetheart. Here is another one who has been around and.

Makes a new profile sometimes.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/899e8bca-2729-49f1-b3c8-2d00645286e9[/URL]

Does anyone have history with her?

She wants 600! But DTF.[/QUOTE]I fucked her a few times for half that last year. She's into anal which is hot, but I got real manic vibes from her. She let me CIP on future dates as long as I brought a Plan B. I felt like I lucked out and always caught her on a good day, but prior experience with manic-depressive girls meant I eventually pulled away. Nothing she ever did, she was sweet as could be when we were together, but I just I opted to listen to my gut.

Reviewing my old texts with her, she originally wanted 500 but I got her down to 3, and she hosted.

Hey all, I am a long time lurker who has finally decided to bite the bullet and am looking for some advice. I have finally come into a little money and thought I would give this whole sugar thing a whirl, it seems much more appealing to me than the traditional escort route. I work from home with a job that has half forgotten about me so I have the time, have a nice enough apartment and car to impress, and have finally come into a bit of money so I have the funds. The only thing in my way is that I still have a girlfriend (one who I have not slept with since the pandemic). We have separate finances and I drive her to and from work most days so no real threat of the whole coming home early thing, but still not ideal. Are there any more senior members willing to lend some wisdom on how to navigate this sorta thing so I do not end up with more trouble than I bargained?

[QUOTE=Nominal;6307247]Hey all, I am a long time lurker who has finally decided to bite the bullet and am looking for some advice. I have finally come into a little money and thought I would give this whole sugar thing a whirl, it seems much more appealing to me than the traditional escort route. I work from home with a job that has half forgotten about me so I have the time, have a nice enough apartment and car to impress, and have finally come into a bit of money so I have the funds. The only thing in my way is that I still have a girlfriend (one who I have not slept with since the pandemic). We have separate finances and I drive her to and from work most days so no real threat of the whole coming home early thing, but still not ideal. Are there any more senior members willing to lend some wisdom on how to navigate this sorta thing so I do not end up with more trouble than I bargained?[/QUOTE]Dump her if you're not having sex. Haha.

But seriously, I wouldn't bring women to your place when the girlfriend lives there. Too much risk that a woman refuses to leave, shows up unannounced, or blackmails you.

Women who host are usually hard to find on Seeking. But that's the first choice.

Does your girlfriend review your credit card statements? If not, hotels will easily work as plan B to finding women who host. If she does review your credit cards, youll have to buy hotels.com gift cards at Office Depot with your credit card (if you can explain the office store charges) or cash.

Use a fake name. Never give your real phone number. Use google voice instead or Kik or WhatsApp. A burner phone is risky because the girlfriend might find it. Obviously delete your browsing history.

[QUOTE=Nominal;6307247]Hey all, I am a long time lurker who has finally decided to bite the bullet and am looking for some advice. I have finally come into a little money and thought I would give this whole sugar thing a whirl, it seems much more appealing to me than the traditional escort route. I work from home with a job that has half forgotten about me so I have the time, have a nice enough apartment and car to impress, and have finally come into a bit of money so I have the funds. The only thing in my way is that I still have a girlfriend (one who I have not slept with since the pandemic). We have separate finances and I drive her to and from work most days so no real threat of the whole coming home early thing, but still not ideal. Are there any more senior members willing to lend some wisdom on how to navigate this sorta thing so I do not end up with more trouble than I bargained?[/QUOTE]I was single when I had my SB's so didn't have this issue, we all have our different reasons on having a SB or a line up of SB. To me it seems like a lot of work just to get some pussy if you have to basically tip toe and sneak it from your SO. If you haven't slept with your girlfriend since the pandemic (that's like 2 years ago) maybe you should rethink the whole having a girlfriend? SB is like having a GF without the whole drama issues of a relationship. Temp GF in simple terms. Some of us deal with SB drama and we drop en like it's hott and post it on here so another guy hits it haha.

[QUOTE=Nominal;6307247]Hey all, I am a long time lurker who has finally decided to bite the bullet and am looking for some advice. I have finally come into a little money and thought I would give this whole sugar thing a whirl, it seems much more appealing to me than the traditional escort route. I work from home with a job that has half forgotten about me so I have the time, have a nice enough apartment and car to impress, and have finally come into a bit of money so I have the funds. The only thing in my way is that I still have a girlfriend (one who I have not slept with since the pandemic). We have separate finances and I drive her to and from work most days so no real threat of the whole coming home early thing, but still not ideal. Are there any more senior members willing to lend some wisdom on how to navigate this sorta thing so I do not end up with more trouble than I bargained?[/QUOTE]First of all, one of the good things about sugar dating is that you don't really need to "impress" the girls with a nice car and apartment, etc. It doesn't hurt, but it's not really necessary. All you need is the right amount of $$$ to get 90% of them into bed, which is clearly a big part of this.

Second, if you have a gf, who lives with you it is a very risky move to bring any other girls back there. Just that idea sounds a bit self destructive or like self sabotage. Maybe you like the thrill of living dangerously, but it's generally not a great idea to let many of these girls even know where you live, much less if you have a gf/wife. There are all kinds of crazy stalker women out there. You could do nothing wrong, and they could still show up at your door and cause trouble.

Also, I wouldn't be texting them with your regular phone or phone #. Get a separate burner phione and use an app like Sudo or TextNow, or Google Voice #.

Anyway, there are 100 ways to get caught cheating, and if you can think of 50 of them, you are a genius. I've been in your situation before, so I know the risks.

And others are saying to dump your gf, if not having sex, but I bet it is not that simple. Sex has never been a big part of a LTR for me, which is why I need the side p*ssy action. But you can still love and care about your SO and not want to get rid of her.

So good luck, and there is plenty of additional advice in this thread, every day.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6307371]Dump her if you're not having sex. Haha.

But seriously, I wouldn't bring women to your place when the girlfriend lives there. Too much risk that a woman refuses to leave, shows up unannounced, or blackmails you.

Women who host are usually hard to find on Seeking. But that's the first choice.

Does your girlfriend review your credit card statements? If not, hotels will easily work as plan B to finding women who host. If she does review your credit cards, youll have to buy hotels.com gift cards at Office Depot with your credit card (if you can explain the office store charges) or cash.

Use a fake name. Never give your real phone number. Use google voice instead or Kik or WhatsApp. A burner phone is risky because the girlfriend might find it. Obviously delete your browsing history.[/QUOTE]All great advice here. And can buy [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] gift cards at many locations, including Walmart and Target. However, you will still often need a regular credit card for deposit / incidentals. I sometimes use a prepaid VISA card for this, but many hotels insist on a regular one, with your name on it. But those charges often drop off, so less risk that just paying for hotels with main credit card.

I still say burner phone is better than regular one, and could hide it with little to no chance of detection, if you are smart about it.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6307371]Dump her if you're not having sex. Haha.

But seriously, I wouldn't bring women to your place when the girlfriend lives there. Too much risk that a woman refuses to leave, shows up unannounced, or blackmails you.

Women who host are usually hard to find on Seeking. But that's the first choice.

Does your girlfriend review your credit card statements? If not, hotels will easily work as plan B to finding women who host. If she does review your credit cards, youll have to buy hotels.com gift cards at Office Depot with your credit card (if you can explain the office store charges) or cash.

Use a fake name. Never give your real phone number. Use google voice instead or Kik or WhatsApp. A burner phone is risky because the girlfriend might find it. Obviously delete your browsing history.[/QUOTE]I've got to ask is having your GF review your personal financial information a thing now? It certainly wasn't back 30 years ago when I was dating. Hell even when I got engaged to my wife, she still didn't need to know. After your married that might be an thing.

These 2 are an actual couple but I just can't seem to score. Both are real and cute but I got platonic vibes. Was quoted 250 each, not sure if that includes fun in the sack.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/99cdcf0c-b1ad-40be-a4e9-fe20f388f908[/URL]

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c9705742-27ab-4fee-ac83-4e9cc38929cd[/URL]

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6307475]All great advice here. And can buy [URL]Hotels.com[/URL] gift cards at many locations, including Walmart and Target. However, you will still often need a regular credit card for deposit / incidentals. I sometimes use a prepaid VISA card for this, but many hotels insist on a regular one, with your name on it. But those charges often drop off, so less risk that just paying for hotels with main credit card.

I still say burner phone is better than regular one, and could hide it with little to no chance of detection, if you are smart about it.[/QUOTE]I had a burner phone. But it was too much work trying to be sure my significant other wouldn't find it. There were several times over the years when she would have found it if I hadn't been lucky that day. I ditched it and use google voice on my real phone.

When I'm single again, I’ll go back to having a second phone. It's convenient to have one device that is entirely for chasing sugar babies.

Does anyone know the story on 2Sassy4U? I was chatting her up before the holidays, but I went dark on her when some family and work conflicts put me on the sidelines for a couple months. She revoked my private picture access, so I'm sure I'll have some work to do to get back in a positive groove that could lead to meeting up. Is she worth the trouble?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/07322601-7210-49f8-8062-c05edd90efb7[/URL]

Had lunch with her. She's a real chatter. She's a photographer and claims she was taking pictures once and it happen to get Trump in the picture so the secret service took her camera and Trump persoanlly bought and gave her a new one. She talked so much that time ran out on me before we could get back to her place. I'm thinking she wanted 300 but could host. I just never followed back up with her LOL.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6307647]Does anyone know the story on 2Sassy4U? I was chatting her up before the holidays, but I went dark on her when some family and work conflicts put me on the sidelines for a couple months. She revoked my private picture access, so I'm sure I'll have some work to do to get back in a positive groove that could lead to meeting up. Is she worth the trouble?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/07322601-7210-49f8-8062-c05edd90efb7[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;6307735]Had lunch with her. She's a real chatter. She's a photographer and claims she was taking pictures once and it happen to get Trump in the picture so the secret service took her camera and Trump persoanlly bought and gave her a new one. She talked so much that time ran out on me before we could get back to her place. I'm thinking she wanted 300 but could host. I just never followed back up with her LOL.[/QUOTE]Thanks. How does she look? The pics are hard to tell.

I liked her look pretty good.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6307772]Thanks. How does she look? The pics are hard to tell.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;6307735]Had lunch with her. She's a real chatter. She's a photographer and claims she was taking pictures once and it happen to get Trump in the picture so the secret service took her camera and Trump persoanlly bought and gave her a new one. She talked so much that time ran out on me before we could get back to her place. I'm thinking she wanted 300 but could host. I just never followed back up with her LOL.[/QUOTE]300 for a bang average 45 yo? Fuck that shit LOL. You can get chicks like this on bumble all day long for the price of lunch or dinner.

[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6307814]300 for a bang average 45 yo? Fuck that shit LOL. You can get chicks like this on bumble all day long for the price of lunch or dinner.[/QUOTE]Bumble is off limits for those with significant others. But I get your point about price. Given that she hosts, it's more like 200 or less for her when you don't have to pay for a hotel room. Still pricey for a 45 y.o., but not outrageous in a pinch (if she’s good).

[QUOTE=Nominal;6307247]Hey all, I am a long time lurker who has finally decided to bite the bullet and am looking for some advice. I have finally come into a little money and thought I would give this whole sugar thing a whirl, it seems much more appealing to me than the traditional escort route. I work from home with a job that has half forgotten about me so I have the time, have a nice enough apartment and car to impress, and have finally come into a bit of money so I have the funds. The only thing in my way is that I still have a girlfriend (one who I have not slept with since the pandemic). We have separate finances and I drive her to and from work most days so no real threat of the whole coming home early thing, but still not ideal. Are there any more senior members willing to lend some wisdom on how to navigate this sorta thing so I do not end up with more trouble than I bargained?[/QUOTE]Richmond, VA has a sugar thread that isn't just local, it has become de facto a place where SDs from across the country go to read and post. Somewhat like Atlanta. However, they have an archive of all the valuable posts from the past. Sort of a how to.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6307818]Bumble is off limits for those with significant others. But I get your point about price. Given that she hosts, it's more like 200 or less for her when you don't have to pay for a hotel room. Still pricey for a 45 y.o., but not outrageous in a pinch (if shes good).[/QUOTE]Fair enough if attached, but still, you can get a hot 23 year old For 300 so who would want this?

[QUOTE=Nominal;6307247]Hey all, I am a long time lurker who has finally decided to bite the bullet and am looking for some advice. I have finally come into a little money and thought I would give this whole sugar thing a whirl, it seems much more appealing to me than the traditional escort route. I work from home with a job that has half forgotten about me so I have the time, have a nice enough apartment and car to impress, and have finally come into a bit of money so I have the funds. The only thing in my way is that I still have a girlfriend (one who I have not slept with since the pandemic). We have separate finances and I drive her to and from work most days so no real threat of the whole coming home early thing, but still not ideal. Are there any more senior members willing to lend some wisdom on how to navigate this sorta thing so I do not end up with more trouble than I bargained?[/QUOTE]Even though you are home alone all day, do not bring a girl back to the apartment while you live together. The first few visits (if she is worth a repeat) should be in a hotel or at her place. There are enough girls on there that can host, so you should do that. Always have 5-6 girls chatting with you at one time. If you need to get a hotel, try and get two girls to commit to that day and location as one of them sometimes fall through. Set one up for 11 am and one for 3 pm. If they both hit, you have plenty of time to recover in between.

Last suggestion. Go away from your normal. If your GF is a 28 white girl with blonde hair and blue eyes, look for a 20 year old brunette and a 40 year old single mom. Spice it up and see what you like.

[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6307838]Fair enough if attached, but still, you can get a hot 23 year old For 300 so who would want this?[/QUOTE]Variety is the spice of life. Plus sugardaddio passed on her and I haven't reached out and negotiated yet, so there's that.

Anybody got any experience with this woman? We have moved to text and she is asking me some deep questions about what I like and don't like in a relationship. I don't know, just don't have a good read on her yet LOL. No meet up details or damage amount discussed yet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3f5170ff-2a0c-4ea6-916a-d4212c392f30[/URL]

As always may the pussy be with you.

SD.

"I am seeking for a serious soulmate and a lifetime lover. ".

If she's asking deep questions I'm guess she's sincere about that statement and will likely not be open to the usual type of Sugar relationship that's predominantly discussed in this thread. Some women actually use seeking for legit dating.

[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;6307974]Anybody got any experience with this woman? We have moved to text and she is asking me some deep questions about what I like and don't like in a relationship. I don't know, just don't have a good read on her yet LOL. No meet up details or damage amount discussed yet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3f5170ff-2a0c-4ea6-916a-d4212c392f30[/URL]

As always may the pussy be with you.

SD.[/QUOTE]

Outside of this forum. Is anyone aware of or part of any other SD / SB discussion forums. One of my sb eluded to it. But don't know her enough to press details yet.

[QUOTE=PeterPan;6308255]Outside of this forum. Is anyone aware of or part of any other SD / SB discussion forums. One of my sb eluded to it. But don't know her enough to press details yet.[/QUOTE]There's a pretty active subreddit on Reddit. That's probably what she's referring to, I've heard about it from a few SBs.

[QUOTE=PeterPan;6308255]Outside of this forum. Is anyone aware of or part of any other SD / SB discussion forums. One of my sb eluded to it. But don't know her enough to press details yet.[/QUOTE]Just slf and a couple of other subs on reddit.

And of course a million private group chats.

Anyone seen tiny little pixie?

I just want to say I appreciate y'all for taking the time to give me some advice and understanding in all this. It without a doubt made me avoid some obvious pitfalls that I otherwise would have made, and some good perspective. Luckily enough I should be able to follow through on said advice whether it be from being smart and never hosting at my place, to the best burner, and making sure to keep the finances separate and to really explore my options. I will let you all know if I meet anyone choice, how this all goes for me, and if / when I end up exploding my real life for this hobby. I know that this will end up making everything more complicated but it should be a fun ride in the meantime. There is a whole lot of options of people to meet out there and I am looking forward to getting started. Any suggestions on a good budget to start? Seems like it would be real easy to get addicted to all the time and attention you can get for flashing a little cash.

Why would you pay 300 for a 40 year old? Because you prefer the vibe of an adult. You're more likely to get that with a 40 year old than a 23 year old.

[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6307838]Fair enough if attached, but still, you can get a hot 23 year old For 300 so who would want this?[/QUOTE]

There are several forums on Reddit. Stick with SugarLifestyleForum, the others are glorified content sellers. You'll see the entire range of personalities there, SB and SD. And FFS do not use the same screen name you use here. As others have pointed out, it's very easy to search out your USASG posts.

[QUOTE=PeterPan;6308255]Outside of this forum. Is anyone aware of or part of any other SD / SB discussion forums. One of my sb eluded to it. But don't know her enough to press details yet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DudeNextDoor;6308009]"I am seeking for a serious soulmate and a lifetime lover. ".

If she's asking deep questions I'm guess she's sincere about that statement and will likely not be open to the usual type of Sugar relationship that's predominantly discussed in this thread. Some women actually use seeking for legit dating.[/QUOTE]I think she's looking for serious dating. Nothing wrong with that. But not quite the thing for most of us.

[QUOTE=Nominal;6307247]Hey all, I am a long time lurker who has finally decided to bite the bullet and am looking for some advice. I have finally come into a little money and thought I would give this whole sugar thing a whirl, it seems much more appealing to me than the traditional escort route. I work from home with a job that has half forgotten about me so I have the time, have a nice enough apartment and car to impress, and have finally come into a bit of money so I have the funds. The only thing in my way is that I still have a girlfriend (one who I have not slept with since the pandemic). We have separate finances and I drive her to and from work most days so no real threat of the whole coming home early thing, but still not ideal. Are there any more senior members willing to lend some wisdom on how to navigate this sorta thing so I do not end up with more trouble than I bargained?[/QUOTE]I almost forgot one thing. There are posts in the past about how to get the right gift cards and use them to pay for a Seeking membership so you can see and send messages. This will be helpful if your live in girlfriend reviews your credit cards. Search VISA and you'll find those posts.

Any info on her?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8d6fe6b6-4a82-4f94-9ab5-ded2f7656260[/URL]

Belongs_to_you is a pic seller.

I messaged her. After some back and forth, she revealed that she lives in Florida, not Atlanta. Out of curiosity, I told her I have a beach house just an hour from where she lives (I wish I did. LOL). As expected, she revealed that she wants to be paid to send me pics and videos. She might meet me someday. Yeah, right. Blocked her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fa60aced-cba3-4ead-8963-229272a4f1c8[/URL]

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6301297][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a58c1f81-ec62-4738-8052-3408012fc06a[/URL]

Seemed nice at first, very personable. After asking what she was looking for, she said she was new to this, but knew that she didn't want "anything sexual. " What a pity. She'll get nothing financial then, at least not from me.[/QUOTE]1000% a scammer. Talk to her on SDM. Left the site and went to text. Immediately started trying to sell pictures or videos and making up reasons as to why she couldn't meet etc. Basically said she's looking for online relationship. She's looking for a simp not a sugar daddy. Like so many of the rest. She's blocked on SDM. And I know immediately blocked her on SA as well because I always verbally blast these lazy ass hoes when they're looking for simps. Then I block them right away.

[QUOTE=DaRiv;6308970]1000% a scammer. Talk to her on SDM. Left the site and went to text. Immediately started trying to sell pictures or videos and making up reasons as to why she couldn't meet etc. Basically said she's looking for online relationship. She's looking for a simp not a sugar daddy. Like so many of the rest. She's blocked on SDM. And I know immediately blocked her on SA as well because I always verbally blast these lazy ass hoes when they're looking for simps. Then I block them right away.[/QUOTE]I worry about how Seeking arbitrarily bans men. So I'm polite, even to the scammers. I just say I'm not interested in an online arrangement and wish them good luck in finding what they're looking for. If I piss them off, they might report me based on fabricated claims. After I wish them luck to lull them into a false sense of security, I report and block them.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6307647]Does anyone know the story on 2Sassy4U? I was chatting her up before the holidays, but I went dark on her when some family and work conflicts put me on the sidelines for a couple months. She revoked my private picture access, so I'm sure I'll have some work to do to get back in a positive groove that could lead to meeting up. Is she worth the trouble?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/07322601-7210-49f8-8062-c05edd90efb7[/URL][/QUOTE]That's Heather. She is a long time provider. You can search the escort forums and find a lot of posts about her. I've seen her a couple of times as an escort and not had good experiences, but others rave about her as long as you are OK seeing a pro.

Moved to text with her and she told me S Fla too. She has not popped the request for pics and vids yet but she has sent me two amazing nudes of her. I guess she is buttering me up LOL.

Thanks for the heads up NAN.

[QUOTE=NewAnonymousName;6308948]Belongs_to_you is a pic seller.

I messaged her. After some back and forth, she revealed that she lives in Florida, not Atlanta. Out of curiosity, I told her I have a beach house just an hour from where she lives (I wish I did. LOL). As expected, she revealed that she wants to be paid to send me pics and videos. She might meet me someday. Yeah, right. Blocked her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fa60aced-cba3-4ead-8963-229272a4f1c8[/URL][/QUOTE]

Are you talking about Heather 4 your Pleasure Heather? If so Sassy is not her. I know that Heather very well from past hookups.

[QUOTE=2me4Looking2;6309021]That's Heather. She is a long time provider. You can search the escort forums and find a lot of posts about her. I've seen her a couple of times as an escort and not had good experiences, but others rave about her as long as you are OK seeing a pro.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;6309042]Are you talking about Heather 4 your Pleasure Heather? If so Sassy is not her. I know that Heather very well from past hookups.[/QUOTE]I agree. They look nothing alike.

[QUOTE=DaRiv;6308970]1000% a scammer. Talk to her on SDM. Left the site and went to text. Immediately started trying to sell pictures or videos and making up reasons as to why she couldn't meet etc. Basically said she's looking for online relationship. She's looking for a simp not a sugar daddy. Like so many of the rest. She's blocked on SDM. And I know immediately blocked her on SA as well because I always verbally blast these lazy ass hoes when they're looking for simps. Then I block them right away.[/QUOTE]Any blow struck against the pic / vid seller / scammers is a blow well struck.