[QUOTE=DoubleOh7;6394436]How was Sasha?[/QUOTE]I always wait for Chelsea. She knows if I come when she's not there. Just letting you all know of a new name. Perhaps Shasha is the new Angie that's confusing everyone? They all use a couple of names.
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[QUOTE=DoubleOh7;6394436]How was Sasha?[/QUOTE]I always wait for Chelsea. She knows if I come when she's not there. Just letting you all know of a new name. Perhaps Shasha is the new Angie that's confusing everyone? They all use a couple of names.
I recently went to a Divine in GR and last month Royal Touch. Both experiences were great when looking for a non-AMP experience. But driving to GR takes time.
Has anyone went to tropical touch and had a good experience? RT and Divine were both $$ or less. The one time I went to tropical touch they charged $ for just the massage and had a tip area on the bookshelf for extras. I typically don't tip beforehand unless I know what I'm getting. But my guess is they like negotiating beforehand similar to velvet touch back in the day. Does anyone have any experience at TT that's willing to share a report with $ estimates?
[QUOTE=DoubleOh7;6401337]I recently went to a Divine in GR and last month Royal Touch. Both experiences were great when looking for a non-AMP experience. But driving to GR takes time.
Has anyone went to tropical touch and had a good experience? RT and Divine were both $$ or less. The one time I went to tropical touch they charged $ for just the massage and had a tip area on the bookshelf for extras. I typically don't tip beforehand unless I know what I'm getting. But my guess is they like negotiating beforehand similar to velvet touch back in the day. Does anyone have any experience at TT that's willing to share a report with $ estimates?[/QUOTE]RTFF my friend. Several reviews on this thread. Non of them good. I sampled this place a few years ago as they have opened closed and reopened several times. Typical bikini joint a ton of up sell and I can imagine that it woukd be 250-300 to get FS and the ladies I saw there at the time were not worth it. Better to drive to GR if you must have non AMP or goto Jackson or BC for arguably some of the best AMP action you will find within several hundred miles.
Had not been to MT for over a year. Stopped last week and saw Chelsea. One hour. Best overall real massage I have ever gotten at an AMP. Great medium with her hands, forearms and elbows for a very relaxing massage. Used lotion and oil. Got a warm towel and wiped off my back. Then started a very light teasing erotic massage over my body while on my back. Sat between my legs and began to tease the boys and cock. Progressed so I have to raise up on my knees and she started a nice steady HJ. Slipped an oiled finger up my ass (which I love without being told) and gave a very nice PM. Rolled over and continued to edge me for twenty minutes. Explosive finish. One of the best AMP HJ's I've received. Maybe the best? Allowed limited roaming. Was able to slip my hand under her blouse and grab one breast and nipple (she does have nice tits and large nipples) but that was all. $65 for one hour. Gave her $ tip and she was very happy. Will return. Hoping to get more value with further visits? She is older, very quiet and not much of a looker but amazing technique. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=DoubleOh7;6401337]I recently went to a Divine in GR and last month Royal Touch. Both experiences were great when looking for a non-AMP experience. But driving to GR takes time.
Has anyone went to tropical touch and had a good experience? RT and Divine were both $$ or less. The one time I went to tropical touch they charged $ for just the massage and had a tip area on the bookshelf for extras. I typically don't tip beforehand unless I know what I'm getting. But my guess is they like negotiating beforehand similar to velvet touch back in the day. Does anyone have any experience at TT that's willing to share a report with $ estimates?[/QUOTE]I would schedule with Saisha at RT. 34 yo MILF Latina with an amazing body. Natural rack and amazing ass. Loves DATY. She is quiet and may take a visit or two for her to get comfortable with you. Some extras are available. But no FS. She is my go-to girl in GR. Enjoy.
[QUOTE=SpartyOn1234;6403691]I would schedule with Saisha at RT. 34 yo MILF Latina with an amazing body. Natural rack and amazing ass. Loves DATY. She is quiet and may take a visit or two for her to get comfortable with you. Some extras are available. But no FS. She is my go-to girl in GR. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]Sparty, I totally concur about Saisha. She's amazing. I was referring to here in Lansing. My ATF here in Lansing is Chelsea at MT, which it appears you'd agree. I was just looking for a Latina or American MP here in Lansing. Maybe I just need to go the escort route?
BTW, when I was visiting AMI in Florida, I saw your post about Latin Center in Bradenton. I almost was able to slip away from the fam to visit, but didn't make it. Maybe next spring break. Thanks for all your contributions.
[QUOTE=DoubleOh7;6403973]Sparty, I totally concur about Saisha. She's amazing. I was referring to here in Lansing. My ATF here in Lansing is Chelsea at MT, which it appears you'd agree. I was just looking for a Latina or American MP here in Lansing. Maybe I just need to go the escort route?
BTW, when I was visiting AMI in Florida, I saw your post about Latin Center in Bradenton. I almost was able to slip away from the fam to visit, but didn't make it. Maybe next spring break. Thanks for all your contributions.[/QUOTE]The Lansing market is pretty lame so I usually head to GR. I do know a hot south African babe. Jezebel. Who is in GR and Sarasota. Definetely worth seeing for FS. She is one of the hottest FS providers in GR [URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/massage/black_caribbean/real-nuru-massage--with-south-/909411063506-[/URL].
Was not impressed with the Latin Center in Bradenton. Did find a hot Asian AMP in Port Charlotte if you ever get back down south. Happy hunting!
MT has been the most consistent place in Lansing for a long time. Always my favorite place to go when I'm in the area. Chelsea has been my goto, but the new lady Selina (or Sasha) is very very good. Great massage techniques. Ladies there are always well trained. I would recommend you try Selina for a very good massage at a very clean and well managed establishment.
Any new talent or the same?
Are tip expectations going up or is it just me? My first time at MT I got a very nice standard HE for $. 3 at DF I got one for $. 2 wasn't even that long ago.
My last visit at Akoya they asked for $0. 8 which I talked down to $. 5. There's been one or two providers who make it worthwhile but are people really paying that much for a basic HE? Starting to seem not worth it anymore. That being said has anyone just low-balled hard and not gotten a HJ? I get some of them are hard working and actually do a solid job but some are so mechanical, leave the room randomly, end early etc. I don't even go for more than a HJ.
Maybe I'm just salty that my last two ATFs vanished without a trace.
[QUOTE=BeaverBoy;6408923]Are tip expectations going up or is it just me? My first time at MT I got a very nice standard HE for $. 3 at DF I got one for $. 2 wasn't even that long ago.
My last visit at Akoya they asked for $0. 8 which I talked down to $. 5. There's been one or two providers who make it worthwhile but are people really paying that much for a basic HE? Starting to seem not worth it anymore. That being said has anyone just low-balled hard and not gotten a HJ? I get some of them are hard working and actually do a solid job but some are so mechanical, leave the room randomly, end early etc. I don't even go for more than a HJ.
Maybe I'm just salty that my last two ATFs vanished without a trace.[/QUOTE]$40 tip used yo be the norm. Maybe $50-60 if she was more playful and allowed more roaming and just over all exceptional. $50 used to get an extra smile a hug or a thank you so much do that told me they were used to less than that. I believe the minimum expected now is $50. They know house fee went up $10-20 do they want their cut as well. What used to be $100-120 out the door for an hour is now $120-150. Makes the ones that do FS for 200 seem like a bargain.
[QUOTE=BeaverBoy;6408923]Are tip expectations going up or is it just me? My first time at MT I got a very nice standard HE for $. 3 at DF I got one for $. 2 wasn't even that long ago.
My last visit at Akoya they asked for $0. 8 which I talked down to $. 5. There's been one or two providers who make it worthwhile but are people really paying that much for a basic HE? Starting to seem not worth it anymore. That being said has anyone just low-balled hard and not gotten a HJ? I get some of them are hard working and actually do a solid job but some are so mechanical, leave the room randomly, end early etc. I don't even go for more than a HJ.
Maybe I'm just salty that my last two ATFs vanished without a trace.[/QUOTE]BB, sorry to ask, but I always get confused when folks use the $ sign here. Are you just speaking of the tip or the house fee too?
Are you saying 130 or 30; 120 or 20; 180 or 80; 150 or 50? If it is the smaller amount I assume that is the tip amount.
Thanks for clarifying for me. #4025.
[QUOTE=Member#4025;6409952]BB, sorry to ask, but I always get confused when folks use the $ sign here. Are you just speaking of the tip or the house fee too?
Are you saying 130 or 30; 120 or 20; 180 or 80; 150 or 50? If it is the smaller amount I assume that is the tip amount.
Thanks for clarifying for me. #4025.[/QUOTE]Smaller amount and yes, tip only. I typically go for full hour as well.
This report is long over due. Being I haven't seen too many reports here on Zen I thought I would post one albeit it should've been posted in February.
Zen has two addresses. One on Penn, the other W Saginaw. I've been to Penn several times, and Saginaw once.
Saginaw. I visited last year when Lulu? From Penn was in NY. As I walked in a guy was gently arguing with her about something and after waiting a short bit I thought I'd knock to break the tension. He left (no eye contact) and she welcomed me in. She was late 40 ish asian with a relatively curvy body. Above average looks 7/10 and a high pony tale. I love pony tales. The massage was good 7/10. She was pleasant to talk to and the HE was above average 7/10. In general I would repeat but I have my Lansing ATF which I've posted about.
Penn. Luna? Or Lulu? Or Liui? I can't' ever understand her name, which is odd because she has better English than most but she's my second ATF, but only because I find her attractive 8/10. She's pleasant to talk to. Has a nice demeanor, which I appreciate in an AMP. Her massages are above average 8/10. And she's the first AMP to offer me extras. YMMV is probably appropriate here as she said she doesn't offer them to everyone. The extra which I'll share because she has offered others is massaging the masseuse, which was awesome! Total gamechanger for me. She said some patrons ask her to do it. She does have a set fee schedule which is negotiated at the flip. And she's pricey, which is why I don't usually go there except for a massage and HE. I'm embarrassed to say that I did pay $1. 5 tip for massaging the masseuse. But what can I say, I'm attracted to her. Given the hr rate of $. 7 if I'd known what I know now, I'd chastise myself. Please be gentle. Which is why I value this forum so much, and why I thought I'd share this post after thinking about it for so long.
In conclusion, E. Zen is good for hr $. 7 and HE $. 6 but it gets pricey if you want more. But Lulu is IMHO attractive. BTW, also a high pony tale.
This place is the best in Lansing and has been for a long time due to the fact that it gives consistently great actual massage, doesn't haggle about tips, and you always get what you cum for. 70 house with 40-50 tip you will leave feeling great. Chelsea is a lot of guys favorite but all the ladies there are good and well trained. Show them some love.