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The phone numbers are starting to roll in, as I suspected things were just really slow during the holidays. I have a meet setup Tuesday with a spry 23 year old who has given very positive vibes so far so flake percentage is lower than normal. Have a few other phone number leads. The quality is pretty good so far and many have favorited me / messaged me first - all in the 20's range.
[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6288447]The phone numbers are starting to roll in, as I suspected things were just really slow during the holidays. I have a meet setup Tuesday with a spry 23 year old who has given very positive vibes so far so flake percentage is lower than normal. Have a few other phone number leads. The quality is pretty good so far and many have favorited me / messaged me first - all in the 20's range.[/QUOTE]Do you have public profile pic? Just curious how you got favorites and messages first. I keep my profile pic private and no pics on public profile. So I don't get any hits until I reach out to them.
[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6288301]I am 50 and only recently decided to dabble in this age range. A lot of flakiness for sure and I don't get as many responses with the bigger age gap, but damn it's worth it when you pull it off. My current one steady SB just turned 21 and is amazing.[/QUOTE]Wow, that's awesome. Well done!
[QUOTE=PeterPan;6288525]Do you have public profile pic? Just curious how you got favorites and messages first. I keep my profile pic private and no pics on public profile. So I don't get any hits until I reach out to them.[/QUOTE]I stay private too, and don't have a public pic just privates. I have gone public a few times but I find 99% of the messages you then get are just scammers.
I will be honest I do have a couple of fake SB accounts just to check out the competition from time to time and it amazes me dudes that put up real pics in public on seeking.
[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6288591]I stay private too, and don't have a public pic just privates. I have gone public a few times but I find 99% of the messages you then get are just scammers.
I will be honest I do have a couple of fake SB accounts just to check out the competition from time to time and it amazes me dudes that put up real pics in public on seeking.[/QUOTE]I have found myself doing the same, seeing what our competition is using in their profiles.
Dude, I do reverse image searches on a few of them randomly. It's absolutely crazy how many men used their professional head shots from interviews, linkedin etc. Able to find their real name, and employment with a couple clicks. It just blows my mind.
[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6286697]I started in my mid-30's. I'm no multimillionare but I'm debt free and own my own home, but I don't think net worth is actually as important as seeking thinks it is. For me, Tinder and other online dating apps suck and have incredibly low success since I'm not an attractive guy (the Tinder reddit posts the first 2 rules of Tinder: 1) Be attractive and 2) Don't be unattractive LOL). I've been doing this a little over a year now and have scored a ton, found some really great borderline relationships, and much much prefer this to dealing with escorts.
Regarding not bringing up the arrangement, I've had it happen a few times, but it's very rare. The girl has to either 1) seriously like you over text and / or 2) find talking donation awkward and hopes you'll bring it up. During my last active sub back in Sept I banged out a cute kinky red head co-ed who just hated talking about it and so did not, but after we finished I gave her what I thought was fair (my standard 200 since I picked up a hotel) and she pouted, said she normally gets 400. I gave her an extra 50 and she left without any fuss, but later blocked me. So that's the risk you take. On the other hand I did bang out a 19 year old near the beginning of my sugaring who was just happy to go out on a date that didn't involve fast food, and didn't give a rats ass about $. So if you don't bring up the arrangement, it can go either way.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. And I'm the same, not attractive, average looks and a little overweight.
Started working before I was a teenager so never got any female attention and don't have the gift of gab so full on uphill climb for me, but even the last few days since finding this forum, I've noticed my text game improve and rate of responses drastically go up!
Had a Latin / Korean baddie on the hook and invited me out without any mention of money or arrangement but work ducked me and lost her!
Have to give you all props! The info and advice you generously share definitely works.
Just to put a finer point on this, I presume what you guys are referring to is whether your profile is hidden from search. I. e. Private. Yes, I do the same. Women cannot search to find me cold. I must go to their profile for them to see mine. This is the way to go I think, for someone w / a SO. For most people, too, for the reason mentioned by another poster. If you can be found, you get a huge # of messages from outside the US, indeed likely scammers.
About the photos, I found photos of someone not too famous who I've been told I look like. I doctored all of them to cut off about mid-face. It looks like they could be my real photos, just that I am concerned about my privacy. I have several, one public one, and a few private photos, and then opening up "my" private is one way to communicate interest to a POT in between my paid memberships. I get likes and even messages from that, sometimes they even open up their own private photos, presumably based on reading my pretty complete profile. The only thing I still can't really get when I am not paid up is their contact info. Though I did have a recent situation, I had sent my burner # to a POT the last time I was on but I guess I missed her. She got back on, I happened to view her profile at the same time, and my number was there. So she texted me and we started chatting, she shared full photos that way (her photos on the site had the face blanked out). No doubt she is real, and I am totally good w / the fact that she is a little careful.
Hey folks, just wanted to see if anyone has spoken with Venus [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7ad11345-5bd4-467b-935e-6c16d66533d5[/URL] and got anywhere. I like her a look (I'm a sucker for tattood alt / goth girls) and it looks like one of her pics is in a strip club locker room, which means I figure one of you guys has filled her up at least once. What was the damage and how was she?
We had a very good chat on the site. Found out she lives in south fla. She never offered why she is on an Atlanta SA board. Maybe she was just blowing me off. Who knows. If you find out is she really is in Atlanta it would be good to know.
May the pussy be with you.
SD.
[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6289292]Hey folks, just wanted to see if anyone has spoken with Venus [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7ad11345-5bd4-467b-935e-6c16d66533d5[/URL] and got anywhere. I like her a look (I'm a sucker for tattood alt / goth girls) and it looks like one of her pics is in a strip club locker room, which means I figure one of you guys has filled her up at least once. What was the damage and how was she?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PeterPan;6288525]Do you have public profile pic? Just curious how you got favorites and messages first. I keep my profile pic private and no pics on public profile. So I don't get any hits until I reach out to them.[/QUOTE]Yeah I make it public, there's always a poker edge if they make the first move. I only pay attention to the ones that are local, and many are scammers / pros. I had one recently that seemed legit, went to text and she started the picture selling scamming nonsense. Immediately blocked her number / profile. I still find messaging first having the highest success rate if they respond back.
There are girls who keep their profiles hidden from public search and you potentially will miss them if they can't find you. I don't have a SO or care much about being hidden.
I only run 30 day subscriptions so I'm not "public facing" for very long.
Guys this woman needs money now and wants to meet today or tomorrow. She quoted me 300 off the bat with no attempt to negotiate down as I'm not available until Wednesday. I'm thinking for an immediate meet up you can get her lower. Best of luck and let me know if anyone was able to take advantage of her two day availability.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cf327426-31e9-4766-babb-316a5f485fde[/URL]
As always may the pussy be with you.
SD.
Tinylittlepixie.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9562ece7-be67-4e1e-ab85-dc7fd8add858[/URL]
Someone else here linked to her and I clicked the link. She messaged me unprompted within a few minutes of viewing her profile. Was very direct and went to snap very quickly. Asked for nudes and she immediately sent over her cashapp LOL. Told her I didn't do that but only meet in person cash only which she was fine with. We talked a bit about what she likes (I'm getting pro/semi-pro vibes), and she eventually asks about the arrangement amount. I tell her it would help if she's send me nudes to determine the arrangement amount, and she sent a few lingerie pics over. Eventually she said she's looking for 500 per meet but she can't host. I tell her that's too high if she can't host and she immediately goes down to 400 but says she won't do less than that, but I suspect I could move her lower. Was open to BB all.
I might could charm / negotiate with her more, but frankly I've already met 2 SBs last week that I'm happy with and both are less than that and host, so I don't really feel the need to push for more with her. Still she seems easy to land if you want to land her.
[QUOTE=SugarDaddio;6289796]Guys this woman needs money now and wants to meet today or tomorrow. She quoted me 300 off the bat with no attempt to negotiate down as I'm not available until Wednesday. I'm thinking for an immediate meet up you can get her lower. Best of luck and let me know if anyone was able to take advantage of her two day availability.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cf327426-31e9-4766-babb-316a5f485fde[/URL]
As always may the pussy be with you.
SD.[/QUOTE]The profile gives off scammer vibes. Brand new account, only 1 pic that looks like an instagram model, and very little profile info. Combine that with the "sense of urgency" she's attempting to create in her messages to you, and I bet a shiny nickel she'll ask for cashapp money upfront for gas or a babysitter.
I met my first SB candidate the other day. She is 30+, lives close to my place, has her own routine during the day and so on. We met at a coffee shop. She was hot. I wasn't particularly well-dressed because SO was around when I left home, it was quite early in the day, and I wanted to see her reaction. I explained why I didn't dress like I'm going to a freaking wedding. She sounded ok. We spoke for a while over the coffee. She couldn't get to the details since there was a dude sitting close to us. Said she was going to text about details. Never received that text LOL.
I suspect she was going to ask for a ridiculous amount and in form of allowance since she pulled up with a luxury car. I'm no millionaire yet, just your friendly neighborhood PPM guy.
There is one more in line that I'm trying to meet up but she is super late in responding to my texts. My "cross-hobby" experience and spidey senses are telling me that a potential meet will not be up to my expectations.
That being said, if you know of a 18-24 yo girl who is looking for extra cash and cool with ppm, please let me know.
[QUOTE=Sikindil;6289835]I met my first SB candidate the other day. She is 30+, lives close to my place, has her own routine during the day and so on. We met at a coffee shop. She was hot. I wasn't particularly well-dressed because SO was around when I left home, it was quite early in the day, and I wanted to see her reaction. I explained why I didn't dress like I'm going to a freaking wedding. She sounded ok. We spoke for a while over the coffee. She couldn't get to the details since there was a dude sitting close to us. Said she was going to text about details. Never received that text LOL.
I suspect she was going to ask for a ridiculous amount and in form of allowance since she pulled up with a luxury car. I'm no millionaire yet, just your friendly neighborhood PPM guy.
There is one more in line that I'm trying to meet up but she is super late in responding to my texts. My "cross-hobby" experience and spidey senses are telling me that a potential meet will not be up to my expectations.
That being said, if you know of a 18-24 yo girl who is looking for extra cash and cool with ppm, please let me know.[/QUOTE]You have to consider one and done opportunities with a hot GPS. I suggest reading a book on how to negotiate, it can come in handy.
Unfortunately I can't share the link as she blocked me. But wanted to share with this group as you might have better luck than I did. Her profile is sunmoonsky. Experienced SB. Legit and latina. Late 20's.
If you have good luck, please post the details!
Anyone had any luck with this girl?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/75599f78-90b7-4946-b859-3066670930f7[/URL]
[QUOTE=Sikindil;6289835]
There is one more in line that I'm trying to meet up but she is super late in responding to my texts. My "cross-hobby" experience and spidey senses are telling me that a potential meet will not be up to my expectations.
That being said, if you know of a 18-24 yo girl who is looking for extra cash and cool with ppm, please let me know.[/QUOTE]Yes, you have to listen to your instincts and if something is off, just move on to the next prospect. And I agree that 18-24 is the ideal age range (at least in most jurisdictions). I just get more bang for my buck, and I can't think of any 30+ girls who really blew my mind, although many were very good, or great, and well worth the ppm. But I'm shooting for the stars now, and trying to have experiences that I will remember for the rest of my life.
I saw my 24 y/o again and gave her another 500, which is twice as much as I usually do with other girls. I've never seen a sb more than twice, but plan to see her again, although I may wait longer before another session. I am far from a millionaire as well, and I will likely need that $500 for food and shelter in several years, but sometimes just got to go for it, and worry about the rest later.
Actually I'm actually spending less than I did for most of 2022, when I would sometimes bang two girls in one day and six or seven in a month. It's good that I'm getting older and takes me longer to recharge to critical mass level.
But this is so superior to Bumble and all those old ladies (my age) with their sexual hangups. So just hang in there and be slightly picky, and you will have all the fun you can afford, in the sugar dating world.
[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6290562]Yes, you have to listen to your instincts and if something is off, just move on to the next prospect. And I agree that 18-24 is the ideal age range (at least in most jurisdictions). I just get more bang for my buck, and I can't think of any 30+ girls who really blew my mind, although many were very good, or great, and well worth the ppm. But I'm shooting for the stars now, and trying to have experiences that I will remember for the rest of my life.
I saw my 24 y/o again and gave her another 500, which is twice as much as I usually do with other girls. I've never seen a sb more than twice, but plan to see her again, although I may wait longer before another session. I am far from a millionaire as well, and I will likely need that $500 for food and shelter in several years, but sometimes just got to go for it, and worry about the rest later.
Actually I'm actually spending less than I did for most of 2022, when I would sometimes bang two girls in one day and six or seven in a month. It's good that I'm getting older and takes me longer to recharge to critical mass level.
But this is so superior to Bumble and all those old ladies (my age) with their sexual hangups. So just hang in there and be slightly picky, and you will have all the fun you can afford, in the sugar dating world.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. I like how you said it, shooting for the stars and creating memories. But there is a lot of flakes, pic sellers and rejections as well in this 18-24 range until you land someone good. But I would expand to 18-29. Because I found some good ones at 28 and 29 as well.
I believe this is her:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/de094980-eb9e-4955-9d8d-6da6132a105e[/URL]
[QUOTE=PeterPan;6290505]Unfortunately I can't share the link as she blocked me. But wanted to share with this group as you might have better luck than I did. Her profile is sunmoonsky. Experienced SB. Legit and latina. Late 20's.
If you have good luck, please post the details![/QUOTE]
I'm thinking possible escort and / or substance abuser. Does she look familiar to anyone?
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/93c3df32-99b8-4ed5-9bc0-e8d89d83e018[/URL]
[QUOTE=PeterPan;6290586]Hmmm. I like how you said it, shooting for the stars and creating memories. But there is a lot of flakes, pic sellers and rejections as well in this 18-24 range until you land someone good. But I would expand to 18-29. Because I found some good ones at 28 and 29 as well.[/QUOTE]For sure, and one of the best I had last year was Kayla in Kennesaw who was 27 at the time:
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5f3613f8-657b-4e2d-8be7-5a1f92b9470d[/URL]
She hasn't been on the site in several months, and apparently is pretty much retired, but damn she was good. I just wish she would have let me take pics that one time.
[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6289807]Tinylittlepixie.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9562ece7-be67-4e1e-ab85-dc7fd8add858[/URL]
Someone else here linked to her and I clicked the link. She messaged me unprompted within a few minutes of viewing her profile. Was very direct and went to snap very quickly. Asked for nudes and she immediately sent over her cashapp LOL. Told her I didn't do that but only meet in person cash only which she was fine with. We talked a bit about what she likes (I'm getting pro/semi-pro vibes), and she eventually asks about the arrangement amount. I tell her it would help if she's send me nudes to determine the arrangement amount, and she sent a few lingerie pics over. Eventually she said she's looking for 500 per meet but she can't host. I tell her that's too high if she can't host and she immediately goes down to 400 but says she won't do less than that, but I suspect I could move her lower. Was open to BB all.
I might could charm / negotiate with her more, but frankly I've already met 2 SBs last week that I'm happy with and both are less than that and host, so I don't really feel the need to push for more with her. Still she seems easy to land if you want to land her.[/QUOTE]Literally got a screenshot of this review from her less than 4 hours after posting this. Good job whoever sent her a copy of this. You're not getting laid for any cheaper LOL. FWIW she was cool about it. But you just guaranteed she's not moving off her 500 PPM now
Anyways, this is why I don't post reviews of my ATFs or anyone I'm actively seeing. I was going to post a link to my last SB's recent active profile now that she and I aren't hooking up, but I guess I'll wait a few months first. Not only are you not getting laid by the girl you sent the screenshot to, but now you're not getting good info on an active, real, eager, and fun SB. To quote a meme: Congratulations, you played yourself.
[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;6290562]Yes, you have to listen to your instincts and if something is off, just move on to the next prospect. And I agree that 18-24 is the ideal age range (at least in most jurisdictions). I just get more bang for my buck, and I can't think of any 30+ girls who really blew my mind, although many were very good, or great, and well worth the ppm. But I'm shooting for the stars now, and trying to have experiences that I will remember for the rest of my life.
I saw my 24 y/o again and gave her another 500, which is twice as much as I usually do with other girls. I've never seen a sb more than twice, but plan to see her again, although I may wait longer before another session. I am far from a millionaire as well, and I will likely need that $500 for food and shelter in several years, but sometimes just got to go for it, and worry about the rest later.
Actually I'm actually spending less than I did for most of 2022, when I would sometimes bang two girls in one day and six or seven in a month. It's good that I'm getting older and takes me longer to recharge to critical mass level.
But this is so superior to Bumble and all those old ladies (my age) with their sexual hangups. So just hang in there and be slightly picky, and you will have all the fun you can afford, in the sugar dating world.[/QUOTE]I'm on bumble also and between the ladies all being old and requiring 3 dates before FS and then making you get a STD test before going uncovered, it's really not worth it. Then when the new pussy factor wears off you can't even climax. Not all will make you jump thru those hoops but on avg this is the bullshit you deal with. And it's not any cheaper if you factor in the TIME (number 1 thing) and the dinners etc before they will spread their legs. I digress.
[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6291323]I'm on bumble also and between the ladies all being old and requiring 3 dates before FS and then making you get a STD test before going uncovered, it's really not worth it. Then when the new pussy factor wears off you can't even climax. Not all will make you jump thru those hoops but on avg this is the bullshit you deal with. And it's not any cheaper if you factor in the TIME (number 1 thing) and the dinners etc before they will spread their legs. I digress.[/QUOTE]I spent over $500 on one chick who was older than me on Bumble, and she ghosted me. Fuck that shit LOL. This sugar shit is way more fun.
Another Scammer.
We moved to text and she trys to scam didn't waste any time.
[QUOTE=PeterPan;6290505]Unfortunately I can't share the link as she blocked me. But wanted to share with this group as you might have better luck than I did. Her profile is sunmoonsky. Experienced SB. Legit and latina. Late 20's.
If you have good luck, please post the details![/QUOTE]I think I am having the best of luck. Joking but similar to "sunmoonsky" I will add.
"SMeadow" this is even weird. As she seemed real, exchanged numbers and supposed to meet for coffee. She is a and Gainesville. Confirmed 2 hrs before.
And then didn't show up. Blocked my account when I asked.
For the past 5 days or so, every time I've tried to log in to SA on my PC, with what I know is my correct password, I've gotten this message:
"Sorry we experienced an issue loading this content. Click here to retry. ".
I know it's not my account, as I've had no problems accessing the site on my phone. I've tried every trouble shooting method I could find & even tried different browsers, but so far no luck in fixing this. I emailed SA, but their customer service seems worthless.
Anyone experienced this before and / or has any idea how to fix this? Like I said, it affects my access only on my PC.
[QUOTE=PeterPan;6290586]Hmmm. I like how you said it, shooting for the stars and creating memories. But there is a lot of flakes, pic sellers and rejections as well in this 18-24 range until you land someone good. But I would expand to 18-29. Because I found some good ones at 28 and 29 as well.[/QUOTE]+1. The prob with the 18-24 range is the flake rate is off the charts. So many times everything is great and they seem excited and then when the day of meet comes, radio silence. They are just playing you for an ego boost and never were serious. 25-29 there's alot less games: They'll either ignore you completely or if they talk to you are much more likely to meet. A 26 year old looks just as good as a 22 year old to me anyway.
Now 30+ you start running into either really trashy girls or super overpriced MILF GPS types.
PS: Just had a 23 year old flake the day off. Said she "needed to clean her house". Couldn't even come up with a good excuse. This is a girl who had sent several "excited to meet" texts the previous days. A few things I may have done wrong. When the girl is ready to meet, meet within 2-3 days. I waited 4 days. Get in there before she finds a better prospect. In this case I tried to schedule a meet with her sooner but she had to work this weekend and Tuesday was her first day off. Most likely this was just a time waster. It is very frustrating dealing with < 24 year old chicks. My attitude is to expect them to flake and be pleasantly surprised if they don't. That way I'm never disappointed.
Also it helps I had some good sex last nite with one of my regular SBs and tomorrow have another potential lined up. Always play the numbers game, never stop trying to obtain prospects b/c the vast majority are bust outs.
[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6291529]+1. The prob with the 18-24 range is the flake rate is off the charts. So many times everything is great and they seem excited and then when the day of meet comes, radio silence. They are just playing you for an ego boost and never were serious. 25-29 there's alot less games: They'll either ignore you completely or if they talk to you are much more likely to meet. A 26 year old looks just as good as a 22 year old to me anyway.
Now 30+ you start running into either really trashy girls or super overpriced MILF GPS types.
PS: Just had a 23 year old flake the day off. Said she "needed to clean her house". Couldn't even come up with a good excuse. This is a girl who had sent several "excited to meet" texts the previous days. A few things I may have done wrong. When the girl is ready to meet, meet within 2-3 days. I waited 4 days. Get in there before she finds a better prospect. In this case I tried to schedule a meet with her sooner but she had to work this weekend and Tuesday was her first day off. Most likely this was just a time waster. It is very frustrating dealing with < 24 year old chicks. My attitude is to expect them to flake and be pleasantly surprised if they don't. That way I'm never disappointed..[/QUOTE]Do you speak w / POTs by phone before the M&G? I find this to be a very helpful filter. I mean, if a girl won't talk to me on the phone, why would I think she would get in her car and drive to a Starbucks? I don't even send my real photos to a girl until I have spoken to her and know I am still interested.
I still get flaked on from time to time, but by someone who is just irresponsible, not just young. Overslept, etc.
[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6291529]+1. The prob with the 18-24 range is the flake rate is off the charts. So many times everything is great and they seem excited and then when the day of meet comes, radio silence. They are just playing you for an ego boost and never were serious. 25-29 there's alot less games: They'll either ignore you completely or if they talk to you are much more likely to meet. A 26 year old looks just as good as a 22 year old to me anyway.
Now 30+ you start running into either really trashy girls or super overpriced MILF GPS types.
PS: Just had a 23 year old flake the day off. Said she "needed to clean her house". Couldn't even come up with a good excuse. This is a girl who had sent several "excited to meet" texts the previous days. A few things I may have done wrong. When the girl is ready to meet, meet within 2-3 days. I waited 4 days. Get in there before she finds a better prospect. In this case I tried to schedule a meet with her sooner but she had to work this weekend and Tuesday was her first day off. Most likely this was just a time waster. It is very frustrating dealing with < 24 year old chicks. My attitude is to expect them to flake and be pleasantly surprised if they don't. That way I'm never disappointed.
Also it helps I had some good sex last nite with one of my regular SBs and tomorrow have another potential lined up. Always play the numbers game, never stop trying to obtain prospects b/c the vast majority are bust outs.[/QUOTE]Yes, I have a 19 yr old that's sporadic with her text replies, but she always comes with a confirmation text the day we're supposed to meet. She hasn't flaked yet, so I guess that's a good thing.
[QUOTE=HollowGuy;6291404]Another Scammer.
We moved to text and she trys to scam didn't waste any time.[/QUOTE]Georgia, Georgia as a location means don't even waste your time.
[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6291529]+1. The prob with the 18-24 range is the flake rate is off the charts. So many times everything is great and they seem excited and then when the day of meet comes, radio silence. They are just playing you for an ego boost and never were serious. 25-29 there's alot less games: They'll either ignore you completely or if they talk to you are much more likely to meet. A 26 year old looks just as good as a 22 year old to me anyway.
Now 30+ you start running into either really trashy girls or super overpriced MILF GPS types.
[/QUOTE]I have to say I really haven't noticed it any better or worse at 18-24 than 25-29. I mean they are all pretty flakey LOL. But I would say all of my best SBs over the past year have been in the 20-23 age range. I had TWO 23 year olds that were happy to just hang out and fuck, no allowance even LOL. And we did a lot many times.
Maybe I am getting too spoiled and a bit LEO DiCaprio but I am starting to see a difference between 25+ and a 20 yo, and I am always preferring the 20 yo LOL.
30+ and it's game over for me. I can find those chicks on Bumble. Yeah it may take the same money in dinners and whatnot but frankly if you're 30+ and looking for a sugar daddy you're either a pro or washed up hag.
[QUOTE=SeekingRdu;6291858]I have to say I really haven't noticed it any better or worse at 18-24 than 25-29. I mean they are all pretty flakey LOL. But I would say all of my best SBs over the past year have been in the 20-23 age range. I had TWO 23 year olds that were happy to just hang out and fuck, no allowance even LOL. And we did a lot many times.
Maybe I am getting too spoiled and a bit LEO DiCaprio but I am starting to see a difference between 25+ and a 20 yo, and I am always preferring the 20 yo LOL.
30+ and it's game over for me. I can find those chicks on Bumble. Yeah it may take the same money in dinners and whatnot but frankly if you're 30+ and looking for a sugar daddy you're either a pro or washed up hag.[/QUOTE]That's very valid. Over 30 is stupid. I just have a really tough time at 47 getting anything under 22 now but I shouldn't summarily dismiss them.
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;6291587]Do you speak w / POTs by phone before the M&G? I find this to be a very helpful filter. I mean, if a girl won't talk to me on the phone, why would I think she would get in her car and drive to a Starbucks? I don't even send my real photos to a girl until I have spoken to her and know I am still interested.
I still get flaked on from time to time, but by someone who is just irresponsible, not just young. Overslept, etc.[/QUOTE]No and I've landed plenty under 22's throughout my SA career. My game may be off. I think I need to send them a vetted pic a day before the meet to keep them interested or something. The one today who flaked I probably could have played a little differently but she could also just been a retard time waster.
I had this problem using chrome. I switched to edge and was able to login just fine.
[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6291468]For the past 5 days or so, every time I've tried to log in to SA on my PC, with what I know is my correct password, I've gotten this message:
"Sorry we experienced an issue loading this content. Click here to retry. ".
I know it's not my account, as I've had no problems accessing the site on my phone. I've tried every trouble shooting method I could find & even tried different browsers, but so far no luck in fixing this. I emailed SA, but their customer service seems worthless.
Anyone experienced this before and / or has any idea how to fix this? Like I said, it affects my access only on my PC.[/QUOTE]
Having good operational security is key to keeping your identity safe from a SB, and eliminating any possibility of blow back from a failed sugar relationship, extortion attempts, and possible exposure to a SO. I without fail remove my license plate before a M&G. I can usually arrange the meeting spot so I can do this across a big parking lot, so I am not really driving plate less on public roads. In California they don't care much about this anyway, but in other jurisdictions YMMV, literally. One other thing I have done is put black electrical tape across the last part of the VIN, which is visible on the lower left of my windshield. Having a VIN is just about as good as a plate # for identifying someone based on their vehicle.
There is at least one website where you can provide a plate # or VIN and, for $40, get the registration of the vehicle. I have used this a couple of times to identify SBs I was seeing, but of course they could do the same in reverse. Some SBs may also go to the trouble of getting a 'friend' in LE to run your car.
I have as a main goal at a M&G to get the POT into my car 'for more private discussion of sensitive topics'. There I can touch her if the vibe suggests she is receptive, and with appropriate preamble, I always try to get the girl to kiss me. One can always wonder if a girl is really interested in or even willing to bang someone 20,30, even 40 years her senior (I admit to being a geezer). I figure if she won't kiss me at the M&G, there's no damn way she is going to meet at the FC. I also typically rely on the girl to book the room for us, which reduces the risk of discovery for me. If things feel right at the M&G, I will even advance a girl cash that will cover the room, so she knows she isn't going to be stiffed by me. It is a show of good faith on my part, and only a couple of times has the girl not delivered. I guess I can claim to be a good judge of character / choosing wisely.
Anyone tried any other sites besides SA recently? The male to female ratio is nothing like it was even a few years ago, which is slowly turning SA into another vanilla dating app where the girls get so many messages and so many "pseudo" options that the flake rate is getting unbearable. The site is getting away from its core mission of sugar dating with the new "datingup" name change. I miss the good ole days. I know about [URL]secretbenefits.com[/URL] but that site has been thoroughly discredited as a rinser / scam site. Too many phony profiles and phony messages from fake accounts being sent to try to drain your credits.
On SA I'd say half of the profiles are just straight up fake, and another 25% are just time waster / cashapp scammers. Maybe only 25% of the girls on there are real and of those maybe half of them are actually willing to meet up.
Wondering what else is out there. My subscription on seeking is about to end soon and this may finally be my last hurrah. Just not worth the amount of time and effort anymore.
On an unrelated note and thinking outside the box: I'm into fitness and considering as a side gig to be a part time personal trainer. The certification test takes about 3-6 months to prepare/study and complete. I can pick whatever hours I want and even try to pick my clients since I don't need the money. So many times I see hot young women dripping wet literally when some dude is training them. I had a friend back in the day who did that and every month he was dating some hot young piece of ass, all personal training clients.
All sugar babies are local. The ones in Atlanta are different than those around me.
Long ago, I met someone special on the site Established Men. I even posted a photo of her hotness on the Richmond thread recently. I saw her on SA after we stopped dating also. There is a lot of cross listing. Back then, Established Men was OK, I know nothing about it now.
[QUOTE=LouisHernandez;6292806]Anyone tried any other sites besides SA recently? The male to female ratio is nothing like it was even a few years ago, which is slowly turning SA into another vanilla dating app where the girls get so many messages and so many "pseudo" options that the flake rate is getting unbearable. The site is getting away from its core mission of sugar dating with the new "datingup" name change. I miss the good ole days. I know about [URL]secretbenefits.com[/URL] but that site has been thoroughly discredited as a rinser / scam site. Too many phony profiles and phony messages from fake accounts being sent to try to drain your credits.
On SA I'd say half of the profiles are just straight up fake, and another 25% are just time waster / cashapp scammers. Maybe only 25% of the girls on there are real and of those maybe half of them are actually willing to meet up.
Wondering what else is out there. My subscription on seeking is about to end soon and this may finally be my last hurrah. Just not worth the amount of time and effort anymore.
On an unrelated note and thinking outside the box: I'm into fitness and considering as a side gig to be a part time personal trainer. The certification test takes about 3-6 months to prepare/study and complete. I can pick whatever hours I want and even try to pick my clients since I don't need the money. So many times I see hot young women dripping wet literally when some dude is training them. I had a friend back in the day who did that and every month he was dating some hot young piece of ass, all personal training clients.[/QUOTE]I've had a little success with Sugar Daddy Meet ([URL]www.sugardaddymeet.com[/URL]). I know a few others on here has as well. Not quite as much traffic, and you still have fakes and flakes, but success can be had if you put some work into it. And its cheaper, $90 gets you 3 months.