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My two cents
[QUOTE=Asylum987;1959181]Any info on middle aged (40's), didn't catch her name, huge bolt ons, very sweet girl almost fell for her until she said a room was 350... WTF they were slow as hell and trying to upsell me to that. But damn was she a fine ass MILF.. Said she has worked there for years.[/QUOTE]Just my two cents, Spring is a good time and she's definitely a wild one. I've banged her on and off for a few years now. She'll take care of you if you take care of her (monetarily). She doesn't do the coke anymore (from what I've heard), but she'll still get drunk occasionally at the club. She's a wild one so you have to be careful so things don't go to a point that makes you uncomfortable, like some other guys have reported on here. Just have to know what you're getting into with her. She's not too good at the BJ, but she's a wild lay and can be a good time. Like everything else, you get out of it what you put into it. Just have to catch her on a good day and it'll be Mr Toad's wild ride. Catch her on a bad day and she won't have shaved her legs and will not make a sound. It's hit or miss but I've always had a really good time with her.
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Kc
[QUOTE=BrooklynBoy;1960743]Any experience with KC at Roxy's. 28 to 30 really pretty, AA moderate tattoos nice up top. Got a really good lap dance no extras, and was wondering if it was worthwhile returning to see if I could close the deal.[/QUOTE]KC is a lot of fun. I ran into her a few years back. She doesn't really have a regular schedule so I lost touch with her. Glad to her she can still be found at Roxies.
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[QUOTE=Tallaser2001;1961091]Just my two cents, Spring is a good time and she's definitely a wild one. I've banged her on and off for a few years now. She'll take care of you if you take care of her (monetarily). She doesn't do the coke anymore (from what I've heard), but she'll still get drunk occasionally at the club. She's a wild one so you have to be careful so things don't go to a point that makes you uncomfortable, like some other guys have reported on here. Just have to know what you're getting into with her. She's not too good at the BJ, but she's a wild lay and can be a good time. Like everything else, you get out of it what you put into it. Just have to catch her on a good day and it'll be Mr Toad's wild ride. Catch her on a bad day and she won't have shaved her legs and will not make a sound. It's hit or miss but I've always had a really good time with her.[/QUOTE]I agree with all of the feedback on Spring. I have a long memory with dancers as I've been burned like all of us have and Spring burned me the first and only time about 10 years ago. Since, I've heard many tales from the bartenders, dancers and customers like the $350 report how she's still up to her old ways. It was early in my strip club escapades as I started going to clubs in about 2000 after my divorce and had never been to the east side since moving here in 1987.
Anyway, I didn't even do 4 complete songs and she said it's $200. It was clear that she was up for anything so I believe all of the other reports, but I was pissed and surprised and paid her. From that point forward I've avoided her like the plague. She's cost herself a lot of money over the years with me but if you burn me once you're done forever and I let them know it. Every time I go in she follows me around and I do whatever I can to get rid of her. When I go in the back with others she stares and I'm glad she's missing out but it's over when you pull that crap. As I said in my previous post, I've told her that she fucked me (not literally) and I'm done forever. I want her to know why. Spring is a story I can tell at multiple clubs in town as I probably have about 5 Springs that are still dancing at various clubs and I avoid whenever I come in.
I'm in sales and I'm successful because I treat every customer as long term and take care of everyone, large and small. It comes back in spades over the years. Any dancer that treats my money like it's a free government program that you don't have to do a damn thing for, just collect from what others pay for with no gratitude, will never see me again and I'm now really good at spotting it in advance. There are three dancers that I've seen for years, give them $100 in advance and we don't even count songs, probably average about 6 a time. If they're busy or I want to see someone else I tip $5 a stage dance and buy them a drink and we're friends in a strip club friendship kind of way. They don't stalk me and are respectful. This includes very hot dancers at upscale clubs like Hollywood. I usually average between $150 to $200 every time I go about 2 times a month and I like to test new talent so some have benefited for good reasonable service, some have lost out, sometimes I'm not pleased but $100 for 3 or 4 dances with a hot naked woman is not a total loss.
We all live and learn but there's nothing worse than a desperate and greedy dancer that has no respect for my hard earned money that tries to take advantage of me. Spring has probably received more press this week than in the last 10 years but as I told my kids when they were growing up "this is a teaching moment."
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Strip Clubs
I finally checked out a few strip clubs. All I can say is whoa...really! Touching is definitely not a no no on that side of the river. The upside is it's fun and I find the women to be straight forward and to the point. You get to flex your negotiating skills and have a few laughs. The down side, some of the places are located in less than desirable locations, but I think they are just tolerated. If they ever allowed clubs over here, we would go nuts. I met some guys on a party bus at PT's on the way out. They had women and music on the bus. One guy told me they were on mission to inspect as many titties as they can. I so wanted to get on that damn bus.
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[QUOTE=SunDevilSTL;1961266]I agree with all of the feedback on Spring. I have a long memory with dancers as I've been burned like all of us have and Spring burned me the first and only time about 10 years ago. Since, I've heard many tales from the bartenders, dancers and customers like the $350 report how she's still up to her old ways. It was early in my strip club escapades as I started going to clubs in about 2000 after my divorce and had never been to the east side since moving here in 1987.
Anyway, I didn't even do 4 complete songs and she said it's $200. It was clear that she was up for anything so I believe all of the other reports, but I was pissed and surprised and paid her. From that point forward I've avoided her like the plague. She's cost herself a lot of money over the years with me but if you burn me once you're done forever and I let them know it. Every time I go in she follows me around and I do whatever I can to get rid of her. When I go in the back with others she stares and I'm glad she's missing out but it's over when you pull that crap. As I said in my previous post, I've told her that she fucked me (not literally) and I'm done forever. I want her to know why. Spring is a story I can tell at multiple clubs in town as I probably have about 5 Springs that are still dancing at various clubs and I avoid whenever I come in.
I'm in sales and I'm successful because I treat every customer as long term and take care of everyone, large and small. It comes back in spades over the years. Any dancer that treats my money like it's a free government program that you don't have to do a damn thing for, just collect from what others pay for with no gratitude, will never see me again and I'm now really good at spotting it in advance. There are three dancers that I've seen for years, give them $100 in advance and we don't even count songs, probably average about 6 a time. If they're busy or I want to see someone else I tip $5 a stage dance and buy them a drink and we're friends in a strip club friendship kind of way. They don't stalk me and are respectful. This includes very hot dancers at upscale clubs like Hollywood. I usually average between $150 to $200 every time I go about 2 times a month and I like to test new talent so some have benefited for good reasonable service, some have lost out, sometimes I'm not pleased but $100 for 3 or 4 dances with a hot naked woman is not a total loss.
We all live and learn but there's nothing worse than a desperate and greedy dancer that has no respect for my hard earned money that tries to take advantage of me. Spring has probably received more press this week than in the last 10 years but as I told my kids when they were growing up "this is a teaching moment."[/QUOTE]I would think my parting shot would be that I would never accuse Spring of being an intelligent business entrepreneur. She's a dumb as a bag of hammers. She doesn't understand business development. She operates with a "feeling" type of approach. If she thinks you're a sucker, she tries to sucker you. If it fails, she writes it off and, yes, does regret not getting your money. But she's not smart enough to figure out best business practices. We had a whole conversation about this very topic. She doesn't operate with a business model, so she loses a lot of money. Anyway, it is hit or miss with her. She'll treat you two different ways each time you come in, too. She's just too erratic to provide consistent, reliable service. Most guys want that when they spend their hard earned dollars. Anyways, just my two cents.
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[QUOTE=Tallaser2001;1961533]I would think my parting shot would be that I would never accuse Spring of being an intelligent business entrepreneur. She's a dumb as a bag of hammers. She doesn't understand business development. She operates with a "feeling" type of approach. If she thinks you're a sucker, she tries to sucker you. If it fails, she writes it off and, yes, does regret not getting your money. But she's not smart enough to figure out best business practices. We had a whole conversation about this very topic. She doesn't operate with a business model, so she loses a lot of money. Anyway, it is hit or miss with her. She'll treat you two different ways each time you come in, too. She's just too erratic to provide consistent, reliable service. Most guys want that when they spend their hard earned dollars. Anyways, just my two cents.[/QUOTE]I've known Spring for a long time at Roxies. I have to agree with all the posts about her. She is after one thing and lives for the hustle.
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Unique from Cheeks
Sad news.
I went to visit one of my potential models today at one of the clubs and I learned some unsettling news. I'm sad to report Unique's body was found in a hotel room yesterday, the victim of an apparent overdose. She and I had discussed shooting at some point but were never able to get it worked out. She was a beautiful young lady whose life was taken far too soon.
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Cody Lane PTs
Did anyone get to see Cody Lane at PTs the 18 19.
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[QUOTE=Cabo52;1963297]Did anyone get to see Cody Lane at PTs the 18 19.[/QUOTE]I didn't even know she was in town. Man, she is one of my favorites!
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Spring's Daughter
Coincidentally, does anybody know where Spring's daughter (older one) works now. I know she got out of jail and don't know if she's still stripping. Can't imagine she would / could do anything else. I don't know her stage name, only her real one, so you can help me out with that, too. Last I heard, she was working at Hollywood, but haven't seen her there. Any help would be great.
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Strip Club Suggestions
Frndzz.. Am new to St Louis.. Been to penthouse last week. This place is really great has amazing good looking girls.
Had a lapdance as well with Audra I guess her name. She is cool. Bud disadvantage is they say strictly no extras beyond lapdance.
Any other clubs around here. With good looking girls and lapdance with extras. Any suggestion greatly appreciated.
There are lot of clubs near Washington Park il are they safe.
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Spring at Roxy's
Apparently I was going to get schooled by this lady. Thought I had a little club smarts but I'm glad the big head prevailed. Appreciate all the info. I don't post much on here mostly use it as a reference, but just wanted to tip my hat to all that do give valuable info that could be a game changer. Merry Christmas. Or is that politically correct.
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Cara
[QUOTE=Tallaser2001;1953837]I posted this in WashPark forum and am posting it here, too.
Does anyone know if Cara ever came back to Cheeks? I heard she was planning on coming back. Anyone seen her lately?[/QUOTE]She is on backpage. [URL]http://stlouis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/the-original-voyeur-show-xmas-is-over-do-yourself-a-favor-150-30/12531097[/URL].
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Unique
[QUOTE=MCH1968;1962346]Sad news.
I went to visit one of my potential models today at one of the clubs and I learned some unsettling news. I'm sad to report Unique's body was found in a hotel room yesterday, the victim of an apparent overdose. She and I had discussed shooting at some point but were never able to get it worked out. She was a beautiful young lady whose life was taken far too soon.[/QUOTE]She is alive and well I saw her today at cheeks.
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Elly at Hollywood
[QUOTE=Tallaser2001;1963876]Coincidentally, does anybody know where Spring's daughter (older one) works now. I know she got out of jail and don't know if she's still stripping. Can't imagine she would / could do anything else. I don't know her stage name, only her real one, so you can help me out with that, too. Last I heard, she was working at Hollywood, but haven't seen her there. Any help would be great.[/QUOTE]She was at Hollywood tonight, if it's the one I know. 21 yo brunette, about 5', 120 lbs with a beautiful set of tits. She was a waitress at Roxys 2 or 3 years ago. Very pretty girl.