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[QUOTE=FreeWally;6992571]The affidavit spells it out. Investigators had the place on surveillance and even noticed that government employees were customers. It turns out they were using government issued phones, so they seized them without even a warrant. You can seen screenshots in the affidavit below. They had all this info before they made any arrest. That's why when they passed their evidence to state officials, there were so few people. 20 plus customers. Rather than thousands. They had this list before the first arrest was even made. You can read it yourself here:

[URL]https://www.justice.gov/d9/2023-11/usa_v._han_lee_et_al_-_complaint_affidavit_redacted.pdf[/URL]

Note that the feds are interested in trafficking, i.e. transporting women and money over state lines. The initial charges were wire fraud. The feds had a press conference saying they cannot prosecute prostitution, it's not illegal federally. What they did was hand over their evidence to state officials, who could according to each states' laws. The state has used that evidence but is in no position to offer any plea deal for federal crimes. Nor would the feds give any lenience to federal crimes for non-federal crimes. They're separate cases run in parallel.

Just to be clear, all of this is public info and the court process is public. No plea has been given and in past cases like this it is unlikely. The feds already have everything they want. The state cases otoh are different and remains to be seen..[/QUOTE]The case at the state level is still on going and has not closed yet. There is quite significant damage to many peoples already. They initially planed to do public hearing and more than twenty peoples might need to show up on court. Those peoples who are facing public hearing hired lawyers and fight for it, now I heard that the court has postponed the case and we still don't know what's the final decisions.

[QUOTE=HiKeke;6992318]Are burner phones even a burner if you keep it anywhere inside your home and use it more than once? I'm actually curious LOL.[/QUOTE]I guess it matters your purpose. For many people the SO is a higher priority than anything. I have always said LE is not even the top 3 dangers for a lot of people.

I don't have a lot of reasons but relatives borrow my phone and PC freely so I wrote an electronics guide for those taking pictures and videos (ex. jgirls):

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6978391#post6978391[/URL].

It will only help for casual (but common) use cases. I show my coworkers things on my phone all the time. I have no problem not slipping up ever, but they have!

[QUOTE=DarkSide5;6982074]Nali is definitely not Daisy unless Daisy lost 30 pounds and came back. Nali is a spinner and thin. Daisy was short and chunky.[/QUOTE]When Daisy came back she lost quite bit weight and I would def call her spinner.

Even when Daisy first started, I would never call Daisy chunky.

[QUOTE=HiKeke;6992318]Are burner phones even a burner if you keep it anywhere inside your home and use it more than once? I'm actually curious LOL.[/QUOTE]Nothing provides 100% protection. Not even condoms. LOL! Burner phones can be traced, and even triangulated against your real phone, in order to locate you — IF somebody with the resources, the smarts, and the desire really wants to track you down. But the way I see it, a burner phone is just one more hurdle that the cops (or anyone else) would need to jump over before they can determine your real identity. I like having some type of barrier (even an imperfect one) between me and my real life. No agency or booker can ever threaten me in any way, because all they have is a throw-away phone number.

Keep in mind, I'm not married, so I don't have to worry about the wife finding my burner phone (ala Breaking Bad, when Walter White got nailed by his wife). That's not a concern for me, so I keep it at home. If I was married, I would keep it in a locked drawer in my office, or a locked safe box in my car, or a locked safe in my locked storage unit.

As for your PII being used against you by the cops, I'll bet a free k-girl session that that is exactly what will happen in the Tyson's Corner investigation, once the state and local cases play out. They already have everything they need to do it. We already know the customer names have been compromised. It's just a matter of time before they are used as bargaining chips. And, yes, it has played out that way in many other cases over the years. Uncle LEO loves to follow the same playbook because it's so easy.

The fact is, the authorities do care about more than just cross-state human trafficking. These days, our "woke" DAs believe that the working girls are the true victims, and their male customers are the actual criminals who are exploiting these poor, helpless women. That was the whole basis of the infamous 2016 Seattle bust. That theory is also widely believed throughout the USA And Europe. According to them, we are the bad guys.

So, again, my advice is, if you want to protect yourself, there are steps you can take. They aren't fool proof, but they are better than nothing. The more you have to lose, the more you should consider at least trying to obscure your real identity. There are many guys today who regret not doing it, because they got exposed. I know some of them personally and I've tried to learn from their mistakes.

On the other hand, if you're not married, no kids, self-employed, etc, and you just don't care about the threat of being publicly exposed someday, then you don't need to bother with any of this stuff. And I envy your lifestyle!

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6992719]I wrote an electronics guide for those taking pictures and videos...

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6978391#post6978391[/URL].[/QUOTE]That's actually very helpful! Hadn't read it before. Good stuff.

Is it harder for non-Koreans to get into Sesang?

[QUOTE=InternDavid;6992843]Is it harder for non-Koreans to get into Sesang?[/QUOTE]Doubt it. All they care about is green. I am a non-Korean and I had no trouble getting in. Just gave a few references. Pretty fly, for a white guy?

[QUOTE=TDLeafs;6992741]When Daisy came back she lost quite bit weight and I would def call her spinner.

Even when Daisy first started, I would never call Daisy chunky.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. To say she was chunky is a bit harsh. Whereas Nali wanting to conceal her rebrand from Daisy/Joah is not. Some girls rebrand because of poor reputations. Whereas others do it because dudes blur the line between simp and stalker.

Using fake pics as Joah -and now as Nali- cannot circumvent the efforts of a determined hobbyist with too much time on their hands, and a desire to help others make informed decisions.

[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6992883]Agreed. To say she was chunky is a bit harsh. Whereas Nali wanting to conceal her rebrand from Daisy/Joah is not. Some girls rebrand because of poor reputations. Whereas others do it because dudes blur the line between simp and stalker.

Using fake pics as Joah -and now as Nali- cannot circumvent the efforts of a determined hobbyist with too much time on their hands, and a desire to help others make informed decisions.[/QUOTE]Lot of lonely incel men out here fam. It's all about pumping and dumping. Go outside and find a normal chick if you want cuddles and shii.

[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6992883]Some girls rebrand because of poor reputations.[/QUOTE]I know one girl who can't get hired anymore due to bad reputation. Her TER has tanked and sums it up, she asks her customers for drugs and does a half-ass job now. Talks a lot during and after sessions. Just going through the motions with service.

She had many years of good reviews but she's just over this job. Burned out but not quite willing to quit. Tried other SW but couldn't cut it. If she came back she'd have to rebrand. Maybe East Coast where they don't know her.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6992963]I Her TER has tanked and sums it up, she asks her customers for drugsr.[/QUOTE]You would be very surprised on how many active girls right now sniff out of the little vial!

I know of 6 girls who do it currently and it gets them through there appts they've told me!

Has anyone tried either one? Was interested in them solo or together. Their names are hard to search about.

[QUOTE=InternDavid;6992843]Is it harder for non-Koreans to get into Sesang?[/QUOTE]Asian here & I still had difficulty getting in. Still not vetted by them.

Kbliss Saturday selection.

Kate Lovely Kona Kimberly Elly Ina Esther.

Gangnam Diane and Stella.

[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6980091]As they say, this did not age well.[/QUOTE]I don't remember guys talking about Daisy being in the bay as Joah. I'm not saying that it wasn't discussed. I just don't remember it.