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[QUOTE=PaulGlenlivet;2613034]I launched into a dream with her recently with sky high expectations and wasn't too enamored by either her appearance or her performance. She is real, clean, no rush, and all that. But no spark for me. As they say, YMMV.[/QUOTE]A 10 girl to me is not a 10 to everyone else. I do not rate a girl by her 36-24-36 hourglass figure and a model's face. Everyone else says she is a 6 or 7. My rating system of a girl is my opinion only and as I said YMMV as always. I have to see her completely naked and I will inspect her from head to toe every inch of her body looking for what specifically turns me on, not even close to how everyone else rates a 10 at all. I start at the top with hair quality, color and length and style, then the nose, eyes, lips, tongue and other facial features, tit size means nothing. I like all sizes and shapes, but when they have a set of naturals that don't sag and kind of look you straight in the face with the right size cherries to match that to me is the best to play with and suck on. Hands and finger size and nails colored or not are very important to me. I look at the stomach and belly button, the back, the shape, the tats, the feel of her skin then the pussy including the shape and size of the clit, how it feels and taste in my mouth, how tight the muscles are when I am fucking in multiple positions, the shape of her ass and I even spread the cheeks when I am fucking doggy style to see how clean and tight the little hole looks! Then of course the legs, size and shape, especially the feet, toes and toe nails and even the color of the toenail Polish is important to me. How good she kisses, how good she sucks, technique etc. , how good she fucks, how long she can last and also her attitude, friendliness, and smile. I don't like clock watchers, timers or answering their cell phone for the next play date, or asking for money up front and tips, etc. UTR and low production you can't get too often with BP knockouts. I just met a 52 yo married MILF on AMadison who just posted her profile and we set up a dinner date next week and she says if the chemistry is there we can go to a motel later and she will give it all to me. She wants a good hard cock to suck and fuck and abuse because she hasn't had sex with her husband in ages and is ready for an affair. She could be a 10 in my book depending on what happens and how she looks but I already put her at 5 just for the fact that she wants NO MONEY! That in itself tells me she is even better than UTR since she has no radar at all and will probably put her heart and soul into it with real time orgasms. Just my rating system and my opinion but not necessarily for general consumption. It is actually good we don't all like the same thing because that is what makes the world go round.

[QUOTE=CadillaCock;2613642]A 10 girl to me is not a 10 to everyone else. I do not rate a girl by her 36-24-36 hourglass figure and a model's face. Everyone else says she is a 6 or 7. My rating system of a girl is my opinion only and as I said YMMV as always. I have to see her completely naked and I will inspect her from head to toe every inch of her body looking for what specifically turns me on, not even close to how everyone else rates a 10 at all. I start at the top with hair quality, color and length and style, then the nose, eyes, lips, tongue and other facial features, tit size means nothing. I like all sizes and shapes, but when they have a set of naturals that don't sag and kind of look you straight in the face with the right size cherries to match that to me is the best to play with and suck on. Hands and finger size and nails colored or not are very important to me. I look at the stomach and belly button, the back, the shape, the tats, the feel of her skin then the pussy including the shape and size of the clit, how it feels and taste in my mouth, how tight the muscles are when I am fucking in multiple positions, the shape of her ass and I even spread the cheeks when I am fucking doggy style to see how clean and tight the little hole looks! Then of course the legs, size and shape, especially the feet, toes and toe nails and even the color of the toenail Polish is important to me. How good she kisses, how good she sucks, technique etc. , how good she fucks, how long she can last and also her attitude, friendliness, and smile. I don't like clock watchers, timers or answering their cell phone for the next play date, or asking for money up front and tips, etc. UTR and low production you can't get too often with BP knockouts. I just met a 52 yo married MILF on AMadison who just posted her profile and we set up a dinner date next week and she says if the chemistry is there we can go to a motel later and she will give it all to me. She wants a good hard cock to suck and fuck and abuse because she hasn't had sex with her husband in ages and is ready for an affair. She could be a 10 in my book depending on what happens and how she looks but I already put her at 5 just for the fact that she wants NO MONEY! That in itself tells me she is even better than UTR since she has no radar at all and will probably put her heart and soul into it with real time orgasms. Just my rating system and my opinion but not necessarily for general consumption. It is actually good we don't all like the same thing because that is what makes the world go round.[/QUOTE]WOW, CC that's a pretty steamy description of what a 10 girl means to you!! Your inspection doesn't miss anything. Job well done!

[QUOTE=CadillaCock;2613642]A 10 girl to me is not a 10 to everyone else. I do not rate a girl by her 36-24-36 hourglass figure and a model's face. Everyone else says she is a 6 or 7. My rating system of a girl is my opinion only and as I said YMMV as always. I have to see her completely naked and I will inspect her from head to toe every inch of her body looking for what specifically turns me on, not even close to how everyone else rates a 10 at all. I start at the top with hair quality, color and length and style, then the nose, eyes, lips, tongue and other facial features, tit size means nothing. I like all sizes and shapes, but when they have a set of naturals that don't sag and kind of look you straight in the face with the right size cherries to match that to me is the best to play with and suck on. Hands and finger size and nails colored or not are very important to me. I look at the stomach and belly button, the back, the shape, the tats, the feel of her skin then the pussy including the shape and size of the clit, how it feels and taste in my mouth, how tight the muscles are when I am fucking in multiple positions, the shape of her ass and I even spread the cheeks when I am fucking doggy style to see how clean and tight the little hole looks! Then of course the legs, size and shape, especially the feet, toes and toe nails and even the color of the toenail Polish is important to me. How good she kisses, how good she sucks, technique etc. , how good she fucks, how long she can last and also her attitude, friendliness, and smile. I don't like clock watchers, timers or answering their cell phone for the next play date, or asking for money up front and tips, etc. UTR and low production you can't get too often with BP knockouts. I just met a 52 yo married MILF on AMadison who just posted her profile and we set up a dinner date next week and she says if the chemistry is there we can go to a motel later and she will give it all to me. She wants a good hard cock to suck and fuck and abuse because she hasn't had sex with her husband in ages and is ready for an affair. She could be a 10 in my book depending on what happens and how she looks but I already put her at 5 just for the fact that she wants NO MONEY! That in itself tells me she is even better than UTR since she has no radar at all and will probably put her heart and soul into it with real time orgasms. Just my rating system and my opinion but not necessarily for general consumption. It is actually good we don't all like the same thing because that is what makes the world go round.[/QUOTE]I don't know Cady, I always take what you say as Gospel. You mean there is room for interpretation on this stuff? Wow what a revelation, LOL.

And how did you find the only real woman on AMadison? Or did you. Haven't met her yet right.

Hey good luck.

Looks like a MILF with some huge titties. Not able to find any research on the number or reviews though.

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[QUOTE=JDapper;2614050]Looks like a MILF with some huge titties. Not able to find any research on the number or reviews though.

[URL]http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/who-would-like-some-forbidden-fruit/5088428[/URL][/QUOTE]I did a little research, she has been posting since August, her age went from 40 to 39 and her phone has changed at least 4 times.

401-288-1566.
401-307-2215.
401-300-4502.
401-216-6600.

She also describes herself as Italian and Indian, but some pictures look like a black girl to me, who knows.

One of her ads said she would not accept less than 100.

-BH.

Been in the game a few years and check this site often but never posted.

Visited Natasha a couple months back. Thought her pics and reviews were decent so I gave it a try. Incall in an OK neighborhood. Street parking. When she opened the door she did not look bad nor a smokeshow WHILE CLOTHED, so I gave it a go. She is the girl in the pics though they are deceiving / old. She undressed and I wish it wasnt too late towalk out but donation was already accepted. Her face and ass are the only things that match the pics. She is more heavy set / fat then some might think, short, stomache, and melons don't look good either. Popped in 15 minutes while dreaming it was someone else and she had me out the door though we were supposed to hang out for a half hour. Also had a bad smell downstairs, not sure if anyone else had similar experience. Will not repeat.

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[QUOTE=Odysseus1250;2613695]I don't know Cady, I always take what you say as Gospel. You mean there is room for interpretation on this stuff? Wow what a revelation, LOL.

And how did you find the only real woman on AMadison? Or did you. Haven't met her yet right.

Hey good luck.[/QUOTE]When it comes to rating any girl of course there is room for interpretation. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and also as always YMMV depending on how you hit it off and the chemistry that you have. As far as Ashley Madison, if you eliminate the girls that are looking for sugar daddys, money, free gifts, or just playing games and will never actually follow through with a play date, they are far and few between. I have been on that site for over five years and I have only actually been with 3 that have delivered it all for no money. Also this goes for Adult friend finders and all those other sites that are free unlike AM they are just as bad if not worse. CL, BP, and the RI clubs are where 98% of the real action is for sure and has been proven correct here for years of mongering by many reliable intel senior members swapping real time information and digits, and I got to say a lot of new members that have proven themselves reliable to me also, you know who you are. You all gave me info and digits, I took them for a test drive and then I returned the favor. A new unknown member on this site could be LE or a scam set up or who knows what so yes they have to deliver proof to me first before I release #'s. If you send a trusted girl an unknown and she gets arrested or beaten or not paid she will flip out on you. The real good UTR girls will almost always tell me to have a new client text or call her with my name as a referral and that means I have to know that member is going to treat her right or she will be up my ass for sending her a deadbeat or who knows what else. I learned that the hard way years ago. If she is on BP or CL with her digits to the entire population then it doesn't matter because she has already decided to take a huge gamble and vice-versa. She could be a scam, LE, have STD's or worse. That is why this site has been proven to be a very valuable tool when playing a fun but possibly dangerous game.

YMMV but I've had a lot of luck through am. Met about 10 women over the span of a year. This is the ones I've done something with, I've seen a few more. There are women on there. Don't know about now, after the hack, but I laugh when people say there are no real women there. You have to know how to look I think. And not be a Neanderthal when responding.

Same goes for clce. Both running ads and also responding.

Dude I was just joking. But thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Jmunroe2;2614420]Been in the game a few years and check this site often but never posted.

Visited Natasha a couple months back. Thought her pics and reviews were decent so I gave it a try. Incall in an OK neighborhood. Street parking. When she opened the door she did not look bad nor a smokeshow WHILE CLOTHED, so I gave it a go. She is the girl in the pics though they are deceiving / old. She undressed and I wish it wasnt too late towalk out but donation was already accepted. Her face and ass are the only things that match the pics. She is more heavy set / fat then some might think, short, stomache, and melons don't look good either. Popped in 15 minutes while dreaming it was someone else and she had me out the door though we were supposed to hang out for a half hour. Also had a bad smell downstairs, not sure if anyone else had similar experience. Will not repeat.

[URL]http://providence.backpage.com/BodyRubs/beautiful-brazilian-amazing-body-rub-guaranteed-female-and-couples-welcome/4222195[/URL][/QUOTE]I was interested but did some preliminary research and after seeing this pic became somewhat disinterested. It is probably more representative of her looks currently as you alluded to.

[QUOTE=Yardape08;2614726]I was interested but did some preliminary research and after seeing this pic became somewhat disinterested. It is probably more representative of her looks currently as you alluded to.[/QUOTE]Its actually not as great as that pic. I have a rule where if a girls tits are farther out than her gut, I won't call her fat. I saw Natasha probably month and half ago. She's fat. A bit toothy on the BBBJ, and the place was more like a service station to get an oil change (4-5 girls working) rather than a place to relax. Not saying that in a negative way, sometimes you do need the pump dump and go, but I will not repeat.

About a month ago I met up with vanessa one night. Was coming from my cousins bday, and felt I needed a little relief before heading home; browsed the BP site and decided to give her a text. Rates were, 120 hhr.

I was a bit skeptical but when I saw her waiting on the front porch I was like, she kinda hot so I went followed her upstairs where she led me to the room. Had to use the bathroom first so I asked to, toilet flushed, but the bathroom was pretty disgusting and saw a dead centipede on the floor. After I went to the room and she said to get comfortable while she had to used the bathroom too. (the room had just one medium size mattress in decent condition, and a long cabinet table on the side.) She did ask for money up front before she left to the bathroom, left her phone on the table too. Now that had me real nervous, almost like a premonition of what's to come. But she came back and said to get undressed while she did the same. I got naked layed on the bed and watched her undress, then she proceeded to CBJ me for a few then I went on top, missh. And finished doggy. Tight skinny body, almost boney, she looked way skinnier than the photo maybe lost some weight. I wasnt planning on staying cuss it was late and she didn't give the vibe she was into cuddling. She seemed legit so, about a week later I asked to see her again. She gave me a discount and said 100 for hhr. This was after I read about the stings on BP and became real cautious, but I was horney so yeah. This time her neighbors were out chillin in the front, around 9 or 10 pm. They didn't seem to mind and probably knew what was up. She met me and we went upstairs. Same pattern she went to the bathroom beforehand and left her phone on the table. She told me that some other guy she saw stole her phone cuss she shorted him 5 minutes, and that she had to change her number, but I used the same number as last time. It didn't click then but now I get it. Apparently she forgot she ran out of hats, so everything was raw and I didn't mind, said I was clean she asked if I was safe* said yeah. Started out with BBBJ, then missh. She was kinda dry but not enough to hurt, but for her maybe it wasnt so pleasant. I tried not to finish inside so I asked to CIM, she said ok. I didn't want to stain her sheets so I went on my back she finished me BBBJ. I saved up a lot so I guess some of it went to the back of her throat, she said a little warning would've been nice, guess she doesn't like to swallow.

Anyways, as I was leaving, she asked if I was on the way when I texted her or something. She seemed alittle on edge and followed me down outside. Now, I may be a bit paranoid, but as I was driving back, I noticed an undercover black LE car with lights flashed but no sirens speeding in the direction I came from. It was at a stop light Downtown prov but pretty close to where I just came from. Idk, I could be overthinking it, but you can't be too careful. I'm guess she's and undercover girl on the low or something idk just sayin.

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[QUOTE=Monger401;2614591]YMMV but I've had a lot of luck through am. Met about 10 women over the span of a year. This is the ones I've done something with, I've seen a few more. There are women on there. Don't know about now, after the hack, but I laugh when people say there are no real women there. You have to know how to look I think. And not be a Neanderthal when responding.

Same goes for clce. Both running ads and also responding.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct however those 10 girls you met on AM in the span of one year I met over 50 on CLCE so there is no way in hell AM is going to score UTR's like CLCE, not even close which was my point. CL, BP, and the RI clubs are the best place to score the most pussy. And yes AM is still great because you can find free pussy there but only once in a blue moon on BP, CL, etc. AM is yet just another alternative to find UTR girls. Also you have to buy credits to be on AM but CL and BP are free.

She's been extensively reviewed elsewhere (Google her phone number and you'll see), so I don't think there's any reason to worry that she's not legit. I saw her myself once, awhile back. It wasn't a bad experience, but there was some things that made me decide not to repeat.

[QUOTE=JustNuttin;2614883]About a month ago I met up with vanessa one night. Was coming from my cousins bday, and felt I needed a little relief before heading home; browsed the BP site and decided to give her a text. Rates were, 120 hhr.

I was a bit skeptical but when I saw her waiting on the front porch I was like, she kinda hot so I went followed her upstairs where she led me to the room. Had to use the bathroom first so I asked to, toilet flushed, but the bathroom was pretty disgusting and saw a dead centipede on the floor. After I went to the room and she said to get comfortable while she had to used the bathroom too. (the room had just one medium size mattress in decent condition, and a long cabinet table on the side.) She did ask for money up front before she left to the bathroom, left her phone on the table too. Now that had me real nervous, almost like a premonition of what's to come. But she came back and said to get undressed while she did the same. I got naked layed on the bed and watched her undress, then she proceeded to CBJ me for a few then I went on top, missh. And finished doggy. Tight skinny body, almost boney, she looked way skinnier than the photo maybe lost some weight. I wasnt planning on staying cuss it was late and she didn't give the vibe she was into cuddling. She seemed legit so, about a week later I asked to see her again. She gave me a discount and said 100 for hhr. This was after I read about the stings on BP and became real cautious, but I was horney so yeah. This time her neighbors were out chillin in the front, around 9 or 10 pm. They didn't seem to mind and probably knew what was up. She met me and we went upstairs. Same pattern she went to the bathroom beforehand and left her phone on the table. She told me that some other guy she saw stole her phone cuss she shorted him 5 minutes, and that she had to change her number, but I used the same number as last time. It didn't click then but now I get it. Apparently she forgot she ran out of hats, so everything was raw and I didn't mind, said I was clean she asked if I was safe* said yeah. Started out with BBBJ, then missh. She was kinda dry but not enough to hurt, but for her maybe it wasnt so pleasant. I tried not to finish inside so I asked to CIM, she said ok. I didn't want to stain her sheets so I went on my back she finished me BBBJ. I saved up a lot so I guess some of it went to the back of her throat, she said a little warning would've been nice, guess she doesn't like to swallow.

Anyways, as I was leaving, she asked if I was on the way when I texted her or something. She seemed alittle on edge and followed me down outside. Now, I may be a bit paranoid, but as I was driving back, I noticed an undercover black LE car with lights flashed but no sirens speeding in the direction I came from. It was at a stop light Downtown prov but pretty close to where I just came from. Idk, I could be overthinking it, but you can't be too careful. I'm guess she's and undercover girl on the low or something idk just sayin.

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[QUOTE=JustNuttin;2614883]...Anyways, as I was leaving, she asked if I was on the way when I texted her or something. She seemed alittle on edge and followed me down outside. Now, I may be a bit paranoid, but as I was driving back, I noticed an undercover black LE car with lights flashed but no sirens speeding in the direction I came from. It was at a stop light Downtown prov but pretty close to where I just came from. Idk, I could be overthinking it, but you can't be too careful. I'm guess she's and undercover girl on the low or something idk just sayin.

[URL]http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/vanessa/4474050[/URL][/QUOTE]If LE was using her to catch johns in some kind of sting you would have known that without any doubt before anything happened. Like 30's-1 m after you handed her the money. And unless there were cameras she most likely would have explained the transaction outloud so there's some evidence you were paying her for sex and not just paying back a loan or loaning her money or buying furniture or whatever. She's not going to comit a crime if she knows she is being video recorded.

If she isn't working with them and they are watching her then they would be staking out her house and would have nabbed you going in or coming out of her house. Can't see any scenario where the plan is for police to do their normal police duties and wait for a call from an informant who has just broken the law by having sex for money then texted the police to tell them she did that and then the police race over to arrest the guy.

It's good to be cautiouis but sometimes police does things other than arrest johns.