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Verification pics
[QUOTE=LykBlk;7510182]Been in the hobby quite a while, started on the boards then BP and CL. Been doing the SW thing for a while but that seems to be drying up and I'm getting tired of my two regulars.
This finds me looking for something on LC / alligator. A handful I'm looking at require verification pics or video chat (I've been with a good number that don't require verification) My senses tell me that this could be a bad idea, am I overthinking? Have you guys had any bead experiences with this?
My thinking is that they could possibly use my image or video in a negative way. But all they would have is my phone number.
Edit: my experience tells me the adds look legit otherwise[/QUOTE]They have more than your phone number, they have your photo or video. One negative possibility, I remember seeing girls post guys pictures on Listcrawler before (blackmail?) Why risk it, she's not that special.
These girls see someone do this, so they decide to be a copycat, even if they are "Lower-tier".
The first time this happened to me I replied something like, "WTF are you talking about? I'm already here in the parking lot. I'm not sending you a selfie. If you want to see what I look like, look at me through the peephole in the door. Now what's your room number"? She gave it.
I tend to bypass ads that say this crap now, I'm just not in the mood for conflict. Otherwise, I'd text them for their details like normal. If they insist on a photo or video call, I'd politely decline and move to Plan B. Her loss.
The best reply I read right here in these forums (from somebody else). If they ask for your photo, send them a picture of a $100 bill LOL.
As a side note, don't ignore your regulars. My regular just disappeared into thin air, and I regret taking her for granted. It was a good arrangement that I now miss.
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[QUOTE=FortyFour;7510416]They have more than your phone number, they have your photo or video. One negative possibility, I remember seeing girls post guys pictures on Listcrawler before (blackmail?) Why risk it, she's not that special.
These girls see someone do this, so they decide to be a copycat, even if they are "Lower-tier".
The first time this happened to me I replied something like, "WTF are you talking about? I'm already here in the parking lot. I'm not sending you a selfie. If you want to see what I look like, look at me through the peephole in the door. Now what's your room number"? She gave it.
I tend to bypass ads that say this crap now, I'm just not in the mood for conflict. Otherwise, I'd text them for their details like normal. If they insist on a photo or video call, I'd politely decline and move to Plan B. Her loss.
The best reply I read right here in these forums (from somebody else). If they ask for your photo, send them a picture of a $100 bill LOL.
As a side note, don't ignore your regulars. My regular just disappeared into thin air, and I regret taking her for granted. It was a good arrangement that I now miss.[/QUOTE]You're basically confirming my thoughts on the matter, thank you for the reply. As far as my regulars, you are also correct, I won't take them for granted, I'm going to stop hoping that they'll be something they aren't.
I had found the (almost) perfect regular and had been seeing her for about two years until she, very unfortunately, passed about a year ago. She was really cool and imaginative and matched my freak level 100%. I really liked her a lot and we genuinely enjoyed each other's company. I miss her very much. I need to lower my expectations to a more realistic level.
I love the $100 bill pic idea, that had me CTFU! 😂.
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Plausible Denialability
[QUOTE=LykBlk;7511851]You're basically confirming my thoughts on the matter, thank you for the reply. As far as my regulars, you are also correct, I won't take them for granted, I'm going to stop hoping that they'll be something they aren't.
I had found the (almost) perfect regular and had been seeing her for about two years until she, very unfortunately, passed about a year ago. She was really cool and imaginative and matched my freak level 100%. I really liked her a lot and we genuinely enjoyed each other's company. I miss her very much. I need to lower my expectations to a more realistic level.
I love the $100 bill pic idea, that had me CTFU! 😂.[/QUOTE]Best and safest way: keep your image (s) private. In a pinch, we have cover to say that anyone could have lifted our image from social media or Internet public profiles.
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Regulars
[QUOTE=FortyFour;7510416]They have more than your phone number, they have your photo or video. One negative possibility, I remember seeing girls post guys pictures on Listcrawler before (blackmail?) Why risk it, she's not that special.
These girls see someone do this, so they decide to be a copycat, even if they are "Lower-tier".
The first time this happened to me I replied something like, "WTF are you talking about? I'm already here in the parking lot. I'm not sending you a selfie. If you want to see what I look like, look at me through the peephole in the door. Now what's your room number"? She gave it.
I tend to bypass ads that say this crap now, I'm just not in the mood for conflict. Otherwise, I'd text them for their details like normal. If they insist on a photo or video call, I'd politely decline and move to Plan B. Her loss.
The best reply I read right here in these forums (from somebody else). If they ask for your photo, send them a picture of a $100 bill LOL.
As a side note, don't ignore your regulars. My regular just disappeared into thin air, and I regret taking her for granted. It was a good arrangement that I now miss.[/QUOTE]Funny. You made the comment about not ignoring your regulars. I was thinking the other day "I wonder how many regulars a seasoned monger has?" You see some posts about people getting ghosted and one of the possible reasons is they get bumped for a regular. As I've become more confident / comfortable / etc in this hobby, I've developed a couple of really good regulars for me anyhow. At one time I felt I had 4 ladies that I was confident they would fit me in and bump most others. I dialed into a 2 of them and now it seems I'm back in the normal monger pool with the other 2 - LOL.
Again, though, that got me thinking and posing a question. How many ladies do some of you seasoned mongers have readily accessible? Brag away!!
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[QUOTE=Moe2056;7512534]Funny. You made the comment about not ignoring your regulars. I was thinking the other day "I wonder how many regulars a seasoned monger has?" You see some posts about people getting ghosted and one of the possible reasons is they get bumped for a regular. As I've become more confident / comfortable / etc in this hobby, I've developed a couple of really good regulars for me anyhow. At one time I felt I had 4 ladies that I was confident they would fit me in and bump most others. I dialed into a 2 of them and now it seems I'm back in the normal monger pool with the other 2 - LOL.
Again, though, that got me thinking and posing a question. How many ladies do some of you seasoned mongers have readily accessible? Brag away!![/QUOTE]I like to have one regular, maybe two. After a while I'll start "cheating" on them. LOL. Sometimes they move on, sometimes I move on. One I was seeing when she was Easton she moved to a section 8 high rise on the west side and after two visits there I stopped seeing her. Too many awkward moments, I stuck out like a sore thumb as I'm an older white guy. Lmao. . There was on I saw for a few years after she retired for a total of about ten years. So far what's worked best for me is one regular but see others every once in a while for variety.
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Two apps I've had success on in the past year that are "non standard" are Pure and Feeld. Pure is an anonymous dating / kink / chatting app that you have to pay a few bucks a week for. Feeld is more kink based but I've met a few lifestyle women that just want a regular bang buddy. I did pay for the premium option on both, can't remember what Pure was but Feeld was like $25 a month so not bad compared to the $50+ for the standard ones.
I met a massage therapist that had a fantasy of giving happy ending BJs in her salon on Pure + another woman that just wants an occasional bang buddy. Feeld I met some hotter women but it's a little more of a dating app and if you're working on remaining incongito it will be tougher on that app imo.
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[QUOTE=LykBlk;7511851]You're basically confirming my thoughts on the matter, thank you for the reply. As far as my regulars, you are also correct, I won't take them for granted, I'm going to stop hoping that they'll be something they aren't.
I had found the (almost) perfect regular and had been seeing her for about two years until she, very unfortunately, passed about a year ago. She was really cool and imaginative and matched my freak level 100%. I really liked her a lot and we genuinely enjoyed each other's company. I miss her very much. I need to lower my expectations to a more realistic level.
I love the $100 bill pic idea, that had me CTFU! 😂.[/QUOTE]"I'm going to stop hoping that they'll be something they aren't" (QUOTE)
I was seeing someone on and off for well over 10 years hoping to get something more until I was informed in the near future I was going to get less. I finally gave up hope.
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Definition of a Regular
[QUOTE=Moe2056;7512534]Funny. You made the comment about not ignoring your regulars. I was thinking the other day "I wonder how many regulars a seasoned monger has?" You see some posts about people getting ghosted and one of the possible reasons is they get bumped for a regular. As I've become more confident / comfortable / etc in this hobby, I've developed a couple of really good regulars for me anyhow. At one time I felt I had 4 ladies that I was confident they would fit me in and bump most others. I dialed into a 2 of them and now it seems I'm back in the normal monger pool with the other 2 - LOL.
Again, though, that got me thinking and posing a question. How many ladies do some of you seasoned mongers have readily accessible? Brag away!![/QUOTE]Interesting question, Moe. It also begs the question, "What exactly IS a Regular?
Definitions in this hobby may vary from one guy to the next. I suppose that there are 100 different definitions for "Regular" (with several variables), and none of them wrong. A Guy can even change his definition over time.
My very first escort I saw exclusively for several months (This is GREAT! Why see someone else? Why change?) I guess more accurately, I was HER regular, rather than her being mine? Is there a difference between the two?
I'm guessing that EVERY guy has had at least one girl that he felt different about. The reasons are irrelevant. Maybe he didn't even see her all that often, but she was special. Was she a Regular or just an illusion / delusion?
What is the difference between a "Favorite" and a Regular?
Is it OK (or wrong) to have higher expectations of a Regular?
My (current) definition of a regular is a girl that I've seen 2+ times a month, for over a year. So my definition is based on frequency and duration.
Why so often? Why not see someone new? The answer is irrelevant, but for me 1) good "value", 2) I enjoy her company, 3) Reasons 1 + 2 + __fill in the blank__ = she is the one who I'm going to text TODAY (tomorrow may be a different story, but today she's top of my list).
Maybe she is a "favorite" of mine, maybe not. Maybe she's a little "special" to me, maybe not. I don't expect her to change her plans to see me (Sorry, not today is fine), but I do expect higher than "normal" respect, and lesser than normal BS from her. I return those expectations to her. There is mutual appreciation for our arrangement.
Your question was, "How many?" For me, before Covid, there seemed to be enough variety that I didn't even think about a Regular. The Escort, Stripper, Massage, and Street-Walker options seemed endless. There were a few Favorites that lasted into a Regular-Status, but not many.
I don't know if it was the Covid downtime, the decline of quality / variety, or just me getting older, but after Covid I began to see the benefits of having a Regular. Regular did NOT mean exclusive, or "Girlfriend", but it did mean less variety and more "repeats". A positive side-effect of my increased repeats was a better overall experience and value from SOME. Three of these lasted into long-term regular-status (now down to one). Unfortunately, even a Regular has a "limited shelf life".
No, nothing to brag about, but for me, having more than 1 or 2 Regulars at a time would morph from something benifical, into too much effort juggling them. On the plus side, having new girls "audition" for the opportunity to be a Regular is fun LOL.
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Pitfalls of a Regular
One thing I have personally experienced with two situations where I was a regular, and have formed my opinion.
When you pay for an experience (so this only impacts the client / provider dynamic, not normal relationships), is that it becomes routine.
* Same-y situations.
* Same-y service.
* Same-y outcome.
* Same-y cost.
When you can see the script they run, before they run it, during your encounter. It's isn't as new and exciting. Then you bore a bit. Then you bore a lot. Then you look for something new. Your spending your time and money, so riding the same roller-coaster over and over, loses it's magic. No harm, no shame, just get in line at another rollercoaster. I think we all do, eventually.
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[QUOTE=FortyFour;7515545]Interesting question, Moe. It also begs the question, "What exactly IS a Regular?
Definitions in this hobby may vary from one guy to the next. I suppose that there are 100 different definitions for "Regular" (with several variables), and none of them wrong. A Guy can even change his definition over time.
My very first escort I saw exclusively for several months (This is GREAT! Why see someone else? Why change?) I guess more accurately, I was HER regular, rather than her being mine? Is there a difference between the two?
I'm guessing that EVERY guy has had at least one girl that he felt different about. The reasons are irrelevant. Maybe he didn't even see her all that often, but she was special. Was she a Regular or just an illusion / delusion?
What is the difference between a "Favorite" and a Regular?
Is it OK (or wrong) to have higher expectations of a Regular?
My (current) definition of a regular is a girl that I've seen 2+ times a month, for over a year. So my definition is based on frequency and duration.
Why so often? Why not see someone new? The answer is irrelevant, but for me 1) good "value", 2) I enjoy her company, 3) Reasons 1 + 2 + __fill in the blank__ = she is the one who I'm going to text TODAY (tomorrow may be a different story, but today she's top of my list).
Maybe she is a "favorite" of mine, maybe not. Maybe she's a little "special" to me, maybe not. I don't expect her to change her plans to see me (Sorry, not today is fine), but I do expect higher than "normal" respect, and lesser than normal BS from her. I return those expectations to her. There is mutual appreciation for our arrangement.
Your question was, "How many?" For me, before Covid, there seemed to be enough variety that I didn't even think about a Regular. The Escort, Stripper, Massage, and Street-Walker options seemed endless. There were a few Favorites that lasted into a Regular-Status, but not many.
I don't know if it was the Covid downtime, the decline of quality / variety, or just me getting older, but after Covid I began to see the benefits of having a Regular. Regular did NOT mean exclusive, or "Girlfriend", but it did mean less variety and more "repeats". A positive side-effect of my increased repeats was a better overall experience and value from SOME. Three of these lasted into long-term regular-status (now down to one). Unfortunately, even a Regular has a "limited shelf life".
No, nothing to brag about, but for me, having more than 1 or 2 Regulars at a time would morph from something benifical, into too much effort juggling them. On the plus side, having new girls "audition" for the opportunity to be a Regular is fun LOL.[/QUOTE]Man. I wasn't really in the game pre-covid other than Massage places. Between this thread and the one in the Escort section about the Diamond Girls it sounds like I missed some glory days. When I was writing my post the other day, in my head a regular was mainly a provider that at least appeared to give you preference and at least appeared to enjoy my company and the session vs someone totally transactional. Totally agree the range of definition can be wide. I'm learning to at least keep my eyes open for the next one because situations can change really quick! Stay safe all.
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[QUOTE=LazyLover;7515561]One thing I have personally experienced with two situations where I was a regular, and have formed my opinion.
When you pay for an experience (so this only impacts the client / provider dynamic, not normal relationships), is that it becomes routine.
* Same-y situations.
* Same-y service.
* Same-y outcome.
* Same-y cost.
When you can see the script they run, before they run it, during your encounter. It's isn't as new and exciting. Then you bore a bit. Then you bore a lot. Then you look for something new. Your spending your time and money, so riding the same roller-coaster over and over, loses it's magic. No harm, no shame, just get in line at another rollercoaster. I think we all do, eventually.[/QUOTE]Well said. One the flip side, it can be really nice knowing almost exactly what you are going to get if that is what you are in the mood for. A number of times I have left a new situation saying "dammit, I should have just texted _ But every once in a while, you get a "holy shit" new visit. Guess that's part of the fun of the hobby!
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Pitfalls and Positives
[QUOTE=LazyLover;7515561]One thing I have personally experienced with two situations where I was a regular, and have formed my opinion.
When you pay for an experience (so this only impacts the client / provider dynamic, not normal relationships), is that it becomes routine.
* Same-y situations.
* Same-y service.
* Same-y outcome.
* Same-y cost.
When you can see the script they run, before they run it, during your encounter. It's isn't as new and exciting. Then you bore a bit. Then you bore a lot. Then you look for something new. Your spending your time and money, so riding the same roller-coaster over and over, loses it's magic. No harm, no shame, just get in line at another rollercoaster. I think we all do, eventually.[/QUOTE] Every guy reading this knows the feeling, and is nodding his head in agreement.
Yes, even in "normal" relationships, same ol' same ol' is a big risk, and in my experience, even more so than Pay-2-Play.
I think that a big reason a lot of guys are in this hobby is because of boredom with a significant other. It's been hard (for me) to have this type of discussion with girlfriends without her "female brain" taking something the wrong way and freaking out. I've had MUCH better success having discussions like this with Regulars, who have EARNED their status as one. Maybe it's because our time together was in more of a "sweet spot", not too old, not too new, not too frequent. Saying something simple to her like "Let's try something different" is more likely to be taken positively. Plus, if she's smart, she'll realize it's in her best interest to always try new things to keep it fresh, and keep me coming back. Regular does not mean exclusive.
Can boredom be prevented? Probably not. It's just one reason why a high percentage of relationships have a limited shelf life. . . . . .
. . . . And why a man's "male brain" will see a new woman and say to himself, "Yeah, I want to do her. She looks like she'd be fun".
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[QUOTE=FortyFour;7516096]Every guy reading this knows the feeling, and is nodding his head in agreement.
Yes, even in "normal" relationships, same ol' same ol' is a big risk, and in my experience, even more so than Pay-2-Play.
I think that a big reason a lot of guys are in this hobby is because of boredom with a significant other. It's been hard (for me) to have this type of discussion with girlfriends without her "female brain" taking something the wrong way and freaking out. I've had MUCH better success having discussions like this with Regulars, who have EARNED their status as one. Maybe it's because our time together was in more of a "sweet spot", not too old, not too new, not too frequent. Saying something simple to her like "Let's try something different" is more likely to be taken positively. Plus, if she's smart, she'll realize it's in her best interest to always try new things to keep it fresh, and keep me coming back. Regular does not mean exclusive.
Can boredom be prevented? Probably not. It's just one reason why a high percentage of relationships have a limited shelf life. . . . . .
. . . . And why a man's "male brain" will see a new woman and say to himself, "Yeah, I want to do her. She looks like she'd be fun".[/QUOTE]Funny thing, well maybe not. This is back in the aamp days. My girl I was hot for always insisting I needed variety. I said I'm happy being with someone who can fulfilled my needs. Mind you this was at an aamp with someone else there at all times. One day I said, what would it cost for that lovely looking girl to to come in the room and finish things off while you continue to caress me. She left the room to ask and I agreed. Best moment ever but it ruined anything I had going with my ladie. Do I regret it? Yes and No, but I tried to remedy the situation for years, what a waste of time that was.
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[QUOTE=LykBlk;7510182]Been in the hobby quite a while, started on the boards then BP and CL. Been doing the SW thing for a while but that seems to be drying up and I'm getting tired of my two regulars.
This finds me looking for something on LC / alligator. A handful I'm looking at require verification pics or video chat (I've been with a good number that don't require verification) My senses tell me that this could be a bad idea, am I overthinking? Have you guys had any bead experiences with this?
My thinking is that they could possibly use my image or video in a negative way. But all they would have is my phone number.
Edit: my experience tells me the adds look legit otherwise[/QUOTE]Read a good reply. Take a picture of a Ben Franklin. Pictures say a 100 words. LOL.
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Brothels
Has anyone been abroad to brothels? Traveling for work and getting excited like a kid in a candy store looking at all these options. Plus with the US dollar being higher I will be a VIP member to a few of these places in my time there. I am just trying to get some understanding of how they operate, I am sure not like our AMPs here, where we need in room money plus house money. Thanks and let me know.