Korean Bar Reports

Hinode,
I guess you never go out or I pm'd you too late?
Mogo

Well it was slow at casino. Nothing new. Gina the bartender looked good as always with a revealing top and some tight jeans.

[QUOTE=Mogo Master]Hinode,
I guess you never go out or I pm'd you too late?
Mogo[/QUOTE]

PM too late. Next time.

[QUOTE=Member 69]Really don't think the boycot is working IMHO. Bars are usually slow the first 4 months of the year. With tax time coming up March and April will be slow. I still regularly go to the kb's. Although the girls are hurting they are still going about their kb ways. You still have the ROB's and no play girls.

Many of the bars are noticeably slow lately, camelot was dead on Wednesday, kalihi was like a morgue at many bars. And the girls still won't play.

Yes, the girls are starting to come up to customers for drinks more but they still have that ROB or no play attitude.

As others have said before, our group maybe makes up 5 percent of bar goers, you still have the others buying the girls drinks. Case in point, I still see ROB nicole at butterfly busy with suckers, er customers that just buy her drinkies and get nowhere, guess they just want her company.

I have made it a point the past few years to not sit with girls that don't provide play, even if the girl is hot I won't buy her a drink unless I get some action.

I seriously doubt that the girls will change their ways just because a few guys are boycotting.

I've been mongering for many years, there has always been the ROB's and no play girls around. As long as there are guys buying them drinks they will continue to act the way they do unfortunately.

Best thing to do is to identify the ROB's and no play girls and not give them our business.[/QUOTE]

You know who the ROB's are. Just avoid them. If you are hardheaded or just want a challenge to try and covert a ROB, then don't gripe. The signs are always there. You just have to want to see them.

[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]You know who the ROB's are. Just avoid them. If you are hardheaded or just want a challenge to try and covert a ROB, then don't gripe. The signs are always there. You just have to want to see them.[/QUOTE]Great advice. I wish I had followed it in the past.

D.

I have been going a lot more recently to the bars with my friends. They all asking why I not buying any drinks for the girls and I just say low on funds (but really boycott). I gueess it's good because if I don't buy they don"t either. I have to agree with others I don't think the boycott is afffecting the bars to much as compared to the economy being shitty. I still notice that casino, butterfly, T-time, and cameltoes is still doing ok and I still see a lot of guys still buying drinks. Oh well I will continue the boycott untill I get the "all clear" from the seniors. Kinda funny this boycott is kinda like the tsunami only a little show but no damage (to the ROB's). Kalihi is dead at most places but still have the suckers buying drinks for the ho's. I am hoping that it will get worse for the ROB's (fingers crossed) but I will still continue. gl guys

[QUOTE=Datyb]Great advice. I wish I had followed it in the past.

D.[/QUOTE]
We all would have hoped to have done things differently in the past. Our "youth" hormones always got the best of us. I too have my "mini-boycott", actually it's just being more discretionary with my income. To boycott a known ROB, is not a boycott, it's just commonsense. To not buy drinks in the kb's just defeats the purpose of going to one (unless you are there just for the eye candy). Buying a drink gets you in with a girl. After that 1st drink, it's up to your "game" to bang'em. Seduction, not more drinks, lets you know if she will give you more. If she leaves you, there's your answer. Otherwise it's the usual question: was it me, or was it the drinks. Don't you want to know for sure? Once I tell a kbg, NO, a couple of times, and they never approach me again, then I know they have no interest in me other than for drinks. That's what the girl thinks in reverse. You keep asking her for sex and she says no. You stop asking her, and she says, "I guess all he wanted was sex for drinks". She thinks, was it me or was it just for sex. Now she knows. You never want them to "really" know. Drinks let them know. They view drinks like cash. And cash for sex means prostitution, and the non-sluts never want to viewed as a prostitutes. But if you prefer the sluts, then just ask 'em how much for sex. She will give you a price, then it's up to you to pay or jack off later. If she doesn't give you a price, then you are not f**kable in her eyes for any amount of money.
The common mistake in the kb is, you are into her and she is not into you. Want to know how to seduce a girl. Next time, try buying the ugliest, fattest, oldest girl in the bar a drink. Go to the back table. Giving her a french kiss, she will let you without any fight, trust me, she'll love the attention. Tell her she is cute, and you like girls who have curves. She is not old, but experienced. She will melt. Ask for her number. Tell her you will call her. Now go home and gargle with Listerine, take a Pinesol bath and say to yourself, "WOW, when someone is lonely, I can have power", "easy seduction when they are lonely, all I gotta do is lie". This is the power you are giving to the kbg's when you buy then drinks. Easy money, all she gotta do is lie.
Being discretionary is very lonely when no girls pay attention to you, or doesn't approach you all nite, but, hey, it just means they are not into you other than a money-bag. What more can you ask for. Just as good as them wearing a sign around their neck saying, "I don't like you, but I think you are a loser who will buy me drinks for attention". A lonely guy in the bar, is a guy who is not a sucker. Remember, they don't want to give into sex as just much as you don't want a DUI. How many DUI's do you have? That's how many times they have given into sex they really didn't want to.

[QUOTE=Col Chuck]Yes..master plan is at work..dont you guys think its working? A little more push and they may actually respect us again.. now as this is happening, we all need self control as to not spoil the ladies ever again!!! Here here!![/QUOTE]Its the economy that will effect the bars more then anything.

[QUOTE=Kman123]I have been going a lot more recently to the bars with my friends. They all asking why I not buying any drinks for the girls and I just say low on funds (but really boycott). I gueess it's good because if I don't buy they don"t either. I have to agree with others I don't think the boycott is afffecting the bars to much as compared to the economy being shitty. I still notice that casino, butterfly, T-time, and cameltoes is still doing ok and I still see a lot of guys still buying drinks. Oh well I will continue the boycott untill I get the "all clear" from the seniors. Kinda funny this boycott is kinda like the tsunami only a little show but no damage (to the ROB's). Kalihi is dead at most places but still have the suckers buying drinks for the ho's. I am hoping that it will get worse for the ROB's (fingers crossed) but I will still continue. gl guys[/QUOTE]Yes I agree its the economy thay is effecting everyone and it will get worst before it gets better! Another 12- 20 months of this slow down all government workers are getting pay cuts and forloughs except for HPD and HFD they got pay raises in July 2009 and another 5+% July 1st 2010! All cuts will last another 15 months til July 2011!

[QUOTE=Datyb]Great advice. I wish I had followed it in the past.

D.[/QUOTE]It's the wahine who chooses what happens in the bar and beyond. Trying to reach a common ground is the key to turning the tables.

For example, just received call from KBG wondering what I'm doing and why long time no see (about one week). Told her I'm home doing work due to being evacuated for the tsunami yesterday.

To make a long story short, she was supposed to call me on her day off for the "wild thing" but did not call (so F her). Told her that when she get time, give a call; she said she 'no more nobody' (told her 'Yeah, sure. Take care') and I ended the conversation.

She get the message and have to make the next move, not me. Get other KBGs to visit.

[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]We all would have hoped to have done things differently in the past. Our "youth" hormones always got the best of us. I too have my "mini-boycott", actually it's just being more discretionary with my income. To boycott a known ROB, is not a boycott, it's just commonsense. To not buy drinks in the kb's just defeats the purpose of going to one (unless you are there just for the eye candy). Buying a drink gets you in with a girl. After that 1st drink, it's up to your "game" to bang'em. Seduction, not more drinks, lets you know if she will give you more. If she leaves you, there's your answer. Otherwise it's the usual question: was it me, or was it the drinks. Don't you want to know for sure? Once I tell a kbg, NO, a couple of times, and they never approach me again, then I know they have no interest in me other than for drinks. That's what the girl thinks in reverse. You keep asking her for sex and she says no. You stop asking her, and she says, "I guess all he wanted was sex for drinks". She thinks, was it me or was it just for sex. Now she knows. You never want them to "really" know. Drinks let them know. They view drinks like cash. And cash for sex means prostitution, and the non-sluts never want to viewed as a prostitutes. But if you prefer the sluts, then just ask 'em how much for sex. She will give you a price, then it's up to you to pay or jack off later. If she doesn't give you a price, then you are not f**kable in her eyes for any amount of money.
The common mistake in the kb is, you are into her and she is not into you. Want to know how to seduce a girl. Next time, try buying the ugliest, fattest, oldest girl in the bar a drink. Go to the back table. Giving her a french kiss, she will let you without any fight, trust me, she'll love the attention. Tell her she is cute, and you like girls who have curves. She is not old, but experienced. She will melt. Ask for her number. Tell her you will call her. Now go home and gargle with Listerine, take a Pinesol bath and say to yourself, "WOW, when someone is lonely, I can have power", "easy seduction when they are lonely, all I gotta do is lie". This is the power you are giving to the kbg's when you buy then drinks. Easy money, all she gotta do is lie.
Being discretionary is very lonely when no girls pay attention to you, or doesn't approach you all nite, but, hey, it just means they are not into you other than a money-bag. What more can you ask for. Just as good as them wearing a sign around their neck saying, "I don't like you, but I think you are a loser who will buy me drinks for attention". A lonely guy in the bar, is a guy who is not a sucker. Remember, they don't want to give into sex as just much as you don't want a DUI. How many DUI's do you have? That's how many times they have given into sex they really didn't want to.[/QUOTE]

Seems silly. If I want to go the whole pick-up and seduction routine, I'd go to a nite club or a sports bar, not a KB. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise and are playing into the ROB KB game. The KB only exists for sex for money.

I laughed my ass off on that. You are really funny.

[QUOTE=Iliketowatch] Next time, try buying the ugliest, fattest, oldest girl in the bar a drink. Go to the back table. Giving her a french kiss, she will let you without any fight, trust me, she'll love the attention. Tell her she is cute, and you like girls who have curves. She is not old, but experienced. She will melt. Ask for her number. Tell her you will call her. Now go home and gargle with Listerine, take a Pinesol bath. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Thumperforq]Another guy threatening mongers. Look if she's not going to give it up or doesn't want to be touched, then she shouldn't work in a hostess bar. Get a job bartending at a sports bar or restaurant, otherwise the KB is just on big ripoff and the KBGs are ROBs.[/QUOTE]Well, I don't agree with you because some women work these bars because money is much better than other bars or clubs. They can work at these places and put up with guys like you and still make money but funny part is after all money spent and no play for you, who is the one that is upset? Isn't it better to go to a AMP and it's a sure thing and would probably cost a whole lot less. To go to the K bars and expect to play but end up not getting any and leaving upset is worth the gamble? But yet many guys keep doing it. I would feel stupid complaining about not getting any play after spending money and keep doing this over and over. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

[QUOTE=Thumperforq]Seems silly. If I want to go the whole pick-up and seduction routine, I'd go to a nite club or a sports bar, not a KB. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise and are playing into the ROB KB game. The KB only exists for sex for money.[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think Iliketowatch gives a very realistic picture of how the KB scene works. Ofcourse, most importantly, the bar girls wants money . No surprise there. But, they do actually act like "regular girl" in the sense that they respect guys who do not buy drinks no matter what happens, and takes an interest in them. It is VERY difficult to know when they really appreciate you or just catch the drift of what might entice you. I guess that is what makes the k-bar "game"
interesting. Sometimes, you'll find a kb-girl who will invite you home because they actually really are into your company. You'll know if they don't ask you for money and ask you to stay without ANY compensation.

[QUOTE=Palolo One]Pinesol Bath. I laughed my ass off on that. You are really funny.[/QUOTE]
Speaking of Pinesol, Evergreen can use a dousing of that as the bar has a really funky smell.