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Lots of posts on One and Apple. I had a second dream there. Skipped the massage and she remembered me from last visit. Had the full service menu. I was not rushed and everything went well. But like buying the shiny new car left happy but some buyers remorse. I plan to shop around and debating between another AMP or something else. Feel free to let me know your opinions.
[QUOTE=Tigersharc;4162500]I got no extras when I visited the location off Kettering. Definitely don't give off the LEO vibe. I'd like to find a reliable "goto" near Pineville. Is the basic menu open? Don't want to waste $.[/QUOTE]Was the entrance to the place on the inside or outside? Cause it sounds like you went by Ann, she's pretty Chinese lady, but no she offers absolutely no extras.
[QUOTE=Hattrik;4160227]All girls at Midas that did not have massage license sent packing. Only owner left.[/QUOTE]Dude, NONE of the therapists at the these AMP have LMBT certification. So, something else must have happened.
[QUOTE=Tigersharc;4162500]I got no extras when I visited the location off Kettering. Definitely don't give off the LEO vibe. I'd like to find a reliable "goto" near Pineville. Is the basic menu open? Don't want to waste $.[/QUOTE]I had the same experience. HC Spa was a legit-only session and a waste of time and money. I am okay with a massage only (once in a while), if and only if the massage is top notch. It wasn't. They're probably not even licensed there.
Dreamed I visited CLT VIP spa yesterday. 40 for the house for HH. Just wanted to get one rubbed out fast while on break from work. Offered 40 to the girl, who then said it's 80. Got her to meet half way at 60. Very cute girl did not want me to touch her UTC, OTC was fine. She did not look like she enjoyed her job, but she accomplished her goal. She had an amazing body from what I could tell, and I'm assuming implants. As I said she was very attractive and I would go back to do more with her, but she was not having fun, and it was obvious. I don't want to take part in anything not consensual. I think a lot of AMPs are all trafficked girls anyways, so I don't think they will be a hobby of mine.
[QUOTE=PussyCrook;4163015]Was the entrance to the place on the inside or outside? Cause it sounds like you went by Ann, she's pretty Chinese lady, but no she offers absolutely no extras.[/QUOTE]Second story of small retail. JC Therapeutic. Glass doors. Never seen Chinese Ann. Doesn't sound I'd be interested anyways. What's the name of her place so I can avoid.
[QUOTE=KSeeker;4163180]I had the same experience. HC Spa was a legit-only session and a waste of time and money. I am okay with a massage only (once in a while), if and only if the massage is top notch. It wasn't. They're probably not even licensed there.[/QUOTE]I routinely got HJ with the top down when she was on Kettering. Maybe she's being cautious with newbies in her new location. It's next to the Pineville Fire Station.
SG.
With the Patriots owner getting arrested in Florida, there's going to be more public scrutiny of message places, which goes hand in hand with increased law enforcement. I'm personally staying away until the whole thing dies down.
[blue]Or, he sues the State of Florida for massive coin because they labeled guys getting handjobs as sex traffickers.
I'm pretty sure this is the first billionaire who is more than happy to litigate they ever caught in one of these sweeps.
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I've read the local news of palm beach area today. The coordinated bust of Chinese mps included video evidence as the result of a warrant. Seems LEO started with a tip, then took tissues from dumpsters. After that began to follow patrons leaving And pulled them over for traffic violations. The guys apparently talked and that evidence led to warrant to survey. Didn't think much of this until I recalled leaving Ruby spa last month, I drove out the side street near hotel and took street behind hotel. It was a Saturday eve and I saw 2 dudes in rear of Ruby area at dumpster taking out bags. Hope it ain't what it seems. Anyone else have any intel??
[QUOTE=DonCon;4163950]I've read the local news of palm beach area today. The coordinated bust of Chinese mps included video evidence as the result of a warrant. Seems LEO started with a tip, then took tissues from dumpsters. After that began to follow patrons leaving And pulled them over for traffic violations. The guys apparently talked and that evidence led to warrant to survey. Didn't think much of this until I recalled leaving Ruby spa last month, I drove out the side street near hotel and took street behind hotel. It was a Saturday eve and I saw 2 dudes in rear of Ruby area at dumpster taking out bags. Hope it ain't what it seems. Anyone else have any intel??[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/2019/02/20/human-trafficking-florida-massage-parlors-what-we-know-busts/2926249002/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DonCon;4163950]I've read the local news of palm beach area today. The coordinated bust of Chinese mps included video evidence as the result of a warrant. Seems LEO started with a tip, then took tissues from dumpsters. After that began to follow patrons leaving And pulled them over for traffic violations. The guys apparently talked and that evidence led to warrant to survey. Didn't think much of this until I recalled leaving Ruby spa last month, I drove out the side street near hotel and took street behind hotel. It was a Saturday eve and I saw 2 dudes in rear of Ruby area at dumpster taking out bags. Hope it ain't what it seems. Anyone else have any intel??[/QUOTE]Time to request mamasan to destroy all surveillance video.
[QUOTE=PussyCrook;4163018]Dude, NONE of the therapists at the these AMP have LMBT certification. So, something else must have happened.[/QUOTE]Yes you caught me. It was really aliens that abducted them and I was afraid to discuss this. I have no reason to make this up. Believe it if you like. I don't really care since there are so many others offering better explanations or you can visit yourself and see. I only mention it to help those make an educated decision. You can make your decision however you like.
[QUOTE=DonCon;4163950]I've read the local news of palm beach area today. The coordinated bust of Chinese mps included video evidence as the result of a warrant. Seems LEO started with a tip, then took tissues from dumpsters. After that began to follow patrons leaving And pulled them over for traffic violations. The guys apparently talked and that evidence led to warrant to survey. Didn't think much of this until I recalled leaving Ruby spa last month, I drove out the side street near hotel and took street behind hotel. It was a Saturday eve and I saw 2 dudes in rear of Ruby area at dumpster taking out bags. Hope it ain't what it seems. Anyone else have any intel??[/QUOTE]A fellow monger posted this years ago, I thought I would repost given the nature of the post.
[URL]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik[/URL]
[QUOTE=DonCon;4163950]I've read the local news of palm beach area today. The coordinated bust of Chinese mps included video evidence as the result of a warrant. Seems LEO started with a tip, then took tissues from dumpsters. After that began to follow patrons leaving And pulled them over for traffic violations. The guys apparently talked and that evidence led to warrant to survey. Didn't think much of this until I recalled leaving Ruby spa last month, I drove out the side street near hotel and took street behind hotel. It was a Saturday eve and I saw 2 dudes in rear of Ruby area at dumpster taking out bags. Hope it ain't what it seems. Anyone else have any intel??[/QUOTE]Details still to come out but 200 men arrested and video evidence of tge act against the new englsnfmd owner. If true that's ridiculous. They are laughing at us in Europe for our sexual repression. Hard to believe if they got cameras into a spa. Charlotte pd give it a break.
[QUOTE=CharlotteBob;4157890]Midas has younger talent. Doubt you'll get your fingers wet, but I've been wrong plenty of times before.[/QUOTE]What's the damage at Midas?
[QUOTE=SpinnerGuy;4163829]I routinely got HJ with the top down when she was on Kettering. Maybe she's being cautious with newbies in her new location. It's next to the Pineville Fire Station.
SG.[/QUOTE]Probably true. I had no problem at the old location getting anything I wanted.
[QUOTE=KDan23;4164592]What's the damage at Midas?[/QUOTE]I think this was already posted, . 6 + standard tip out the door.
[QUOTE=DonCon;4163950]I've read the local news of palm beach area today. The coordinated bust of Chinese mps included video evidence as the result of a warrant. Seems LEO started with a tip, then took tissues from dumpsters. After that began to follow patrons leaving And pulled them over for traffic violations. The guys apparently talked and that evidence led to warrant to survey. Didn't think much of this until I recalled leaving Ruby spa last month, I drove out the side street near hotel and took street behind hotel. It was a Saturday eve and I saw 2 dudes in rear of Ruby area at dumpster taking out bags. Hope it ain't what it seems. Anyone else have any intel??[/QUOTE]Haven't posted in a while but last week I was at Lilly's and drew a new "girl". I've always had good luck there, the ladies are about my age and we have fun, but this one was pretty old, and tiny. A couple of times she got so out of breath I thought she was going to pass out. The reason I mention is is that most of them I've talked to there rotate out to New York but this one was from West Palm Beach. I'm thinking she might have worked at one of those spas. Don't think theres a connection but you never know.
Cat from Miami advised me to get an iPhone "hidden camera detector app". Said he's been using for months. Also said some establishments have their own hidden cams. Which he had located and said WTF? Like the one in McAllen TX where those 5 dudes were arrested because of the AMP's cams seized after an undercover officer made a bust. If you going to gut down, better boss up.
Was reading elsewhere that the police got to install cameras in the AMP's when they engineered a fake bomb scare, had the building evacuated, then went in and installed the cameras. Scary stuff. I wonder if this is the beginning of the end for the AMP business. Because of the nationwide publicity, cities and towns around the country are going to elicit fake surprise that this is going on there and do the same thing. If it wasn't for someone high profile such as Kraft being involved, the story would have never gotten any farther than south Florida.
I read that Kraft wasn't the only big name involved. That spa was in a high dollar zip code. They snagged many wealthy guys.
[QUOTE=Dockers55;4167440]Was reading elsewhere that the police got to install cameras in the AMP's when they engineered a fake bomb scare, had the building evacuated, then went in and installed the cameras. Scary stuff. I wonder if this is the beginning of the end for the AMP business. Because of the nationwide publicity, cities and towns around the country are going to elicit fake surprise that this is going on there and do the same thing. If it wasn't for someone high profile such as Kraft being involved, the story would have never gotten any farther than south Florida.[/QUOTE]
Some MP's also have used baby monitors and now those include more high tech capabilities than the ones many, many years ago.
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[QUOTE=DonCon;4167257]Cat from Miami advised me to get an iPhone "hidden camera detector app". Said he's been using for months. Also said some establishments have their own hidden cams. Which he had located and said WTF? Like the one in McAllen TX where those 5 dudes were arrested because of the AMP's cams seized after an undercover officer made a bust. If you going to gut down, better boss up.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=EggplantQn;4168170]Some MP's also have used baby monitors and now those include more high tech capabilities than the ones many, many years ago.
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.[/QUOTE]It is a fairly standard practice for mp's to monitor the rooms using baby monitors, cameras or whatever they choose. It is perfectly legal.
It doubt it would be legal for law enforcement to install cameras on or in private property. Of course, they could with a warrant obtain the tapes from monitors installed by the owner with cause.
If stopped after leaving and while in a car there is no reason to answer questions about what did or didn't occur inside.
[URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/miami.cbslocal.com/2019/02/22/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-florida-arrest-prostitution-ring-bust/amp/[/URL]
[QUOTE=WetLapper;4168352]It is a fairly standard practice for mp's to monitor the rooms using baby monitors, cameras or whatever they choose. It is perfectly legal.
It doubt it would be legal for law enforcement to install cameras on or in private property. Of course, they could with a warrant obtain the tapes from monitors installed by the owner with cause.
If stopped after leaving and while in a car there is no reason to answer questions about what did or didn't occur inside.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EggplantQn;4168431][URL]https://www.google.com/amp/s/miami.cbslocal.com/2019/02/22/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-florida-arrest-prostitution-ring-bust/amp/[/URL][/QUOTE]Here's the law about secretly recording someone, you can record video legally; YOU CANNOT record audio secretly. That is illegal.
I stopped by about a month ago and saw a beautiful young probably early 20's blonde.
She is probably the prettiest I have seen in a year. I have a new job and travel a lot nowadays.
I recommend a stop by!
I find that a bit disturbing. When I go somewhere and get undressed I expect some level of privacy.
[QUOTE=WetLapper;4168352]It is a fairly standard practice for mp's to monitor the rooms using baby monitors, cameras or whatever they choose. It is perfectly legal.
It doubt it would be legal for law enforcement to install cameras on or in private property. Of course, they could with a warrant obtain the tapes from monitors installed by the owner with cause.
If stopped after leaving and while in a car there is no reason to answer questions about what did or didn't occur inside.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PussyCrook;4168544]Here's the law about secretly recording someone, you can record video legally; YOU CANNOT record audio secretly. That is illegal.[/QUOTE]These laws vary from state to state. North Carolina is a one party consent law. You can record audio secretly as long as one party consents. I think (might be wrong) the same applies to video recording, unless it falls under the revenge porn provision. You cannot record video where neither party consents and is in a place where there's a reasonable expectation of privacy. If the masseuse knows about it, the place can record it. You can also record secret video in public places, like people coming out of a massage parlor. Of course police can record anything they want if they have a warrant, which was the case in the Florida busts.
I agree, it's almost as weird as having it in a fitting room or bathrooms.
[QUOTE=NCTransplant;4169017]I find that a bit disturbing. When I go somewhere and get undressed I expect some level of privacy.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=NCTransplant;4169017]I find that a bit disturbing. When I go somewhere and get undressed I expect some level of privacy.[/QUOTE]In further reading of this news I read that these cameras were surveillance cameras installed by a detective at the instruction of a Florida judge. Presumably, as the investigation was of a higher level than prostitution, I. E. Trafficking the use of internal surveillance seemed warranted. It was considered trafficking because evidence showed the providers resided on site.
In this case the arrest focus is on the clients and owner managers with the providers being "taken care of" without legal consequence - a pretty clear shift in emphasis.
Yes, monitors are routinely used at mp's by the owners. I never heard of surveillance cameras being installed before today.
[QUOTE=EggplantQn;4169763]I agree, it's almost as weird as having it in a fitting room or bathrooms.
.[/QUOTE]I agree with this however, I am guessing with the new laws that were passed I suppose they figured they had more "freedom" to do as they please.
Although, I have been involved in this hobby for some time. I've left certain spas alone as I knew the girls were being rotated from one spa to another sometimes across state lines. Also, living, eating, and bound to that location. Hence, so and so is on "vacation. " They do get very little money as the house makes the majority of it. Trafficking is an issue.
But too bad the girls who want to do this cannot freely do that either without constant worry.
[QUOTE=WetLapper;4169879]In further reading of this news I read that these cameras were surveillance cameras installed by a detective at the instruction of a Florida judge. Presumably, as the investigation was of a higher level than prostitution, I. E. Trafficking the use of internal surveillance seemed warranted. It was considered trafficking because evidence showed the providers resided on site.
In this case the arrest focus is on the clients and owner managers with the providers being "taken care of" without legal consequence - a pretty clear shift in emphasis.
Yes, monitors are routinely used at mp's by the owners. I never heard of surveillance cameras being installed before today.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=SilentHunter;4163534]Dreamed I visited CLT VIP spa yesterday. 40 for the house for HH. Just wanted to get one rubbed out fast while on break from work. Offered 40 to the girl, who then said it's 80. Got her to meet half way at 60. Very cute girl did not want me to touch her UTC, OTC was fine. She did not look like she enjoyed her job, but she accomplished her goal. She had an amazing body from what I could tell, and I'm assuming implants. As I said she was very attractive and I would go back to do more with her, but she was not having fun, and it was obvious. I don't want to take part in anything not consensual. I think a lot of AMPs are all trafficked girls anyways, so I don't think they will be a hobby of mine.[/QUOTE]When you make an offer, STICK to it. That's what I've started doing. If I offer her 40 and she says "no", then I'll get up and start getting dressed. You'll be surprised at how quick they agree. Remember, they need us a lot more than we need them.
[QUOTE=PussyCrook;4171335]When you make an offer, STICK to it. That's what I've started doing. If I offer her 40 and she says "no", then I'll get up and start getting dressed. You'll be surprised at how quick they agree. Remember, they need us a lot more than we need them.[/QUOTE]Good advice. Once you offer a tip and she says no then be ready to walk.
Google lists this as the Spa of Zen. Saw Mai (?My) the other day. 10 seconds waiting at the door out front, off the road, seemed like an eternity. I don't believe a TS was available, which is a bummer. Nice 30 something provider. Prior reports of good rub, finish, 60/40, are accurate. Other than no TS and "waiting area," I think it is worthy of repeating.
Stopped by Monroe today. Awesome massage, great hands, and no discussion of tip. Solid.
Anyone know about golden spa on independence?
Hey, mongers. Anyone have any recent reports on Spa 74 on Independence? When I first got into the AMP scene, that's where I cut my teeth. It's a nice place, complete with dry sauna (which a lotta places don't offer).
I had a BLAST there many moons ago. And their prices weren't stupid crazy back then. Just wondering what the scene was like these days. Thinking it might be a good spot to check out as it's off the radar compared to the high-traffic joints.
HC Therapy downtown Pineville.
Crazy Connie greeted at door. Led to room. Therapist her friend Kay. Mature K-lady. Good English. Has been on East coast of USA awhile. Its her new home.
Very thorough massage. Neck to toes. Arms, fingers, legs & toes. Flipped with scalp massage. Upper body and belly rubs.
Very classical Asian service.
Enjoy. Be good. Be safe. AGT2.
[QUOTE=AGoodThing2;4176275]HC Therapy downtown Pineville.
Crazy Connie greeted at door. Led to room. Therapist her friend Kay. Mature K-lady. Good English. Has been on East coast of USA awhile. Its her new home.
Very thorough massage. Neck to toes. Arms, fingers, legs & toes. Flipped with scalp massage. Upper body and belly rubs.
Very classical Asian service.
Enjoy. Be good. Be safe. AGT2.[/QUOTE]I had Kay too. Sounds like you left happy. Not me. She just didn't do it for me (I think it was mutual). Glad I didn't waste more money there.