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[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6354468]I've been PMing RyanHarvey a couple times to figure out what's up with this girl, but he hasn't responded, so I'll post the report here.

He gave me her contact and I've been texting and Snapchatting with her. Life is a mess, can't make rent for March. I offered to fly her to DC, give her $500/ day and plane ticket and hotel. Gave her an itinerary of the places I'd take her. She was nervous and said she wanted to bring a friend, and I agreed to that too.

She still needed money before she could come up, and asked me to send her cashapps. I told her I couldn't do that, been scammed too much, but maybe I could buy some content. I don't even like buying sex tapes, I was doing her a favor. Except she has no content, only some shitty nudes. I gave her $50 since she already sent them, but told her I won't pay for more. If she wants money, we can video chat.

We set up a 30 min call for $100 last Friday, Feb 24th. It was not great, she just sat in the bath and flashed me her tits and pussy, rubbed her clit a little. Totally not the very sexual talk I expected. Regardless, I set up video calls with her for Sat, Sun, and today because she claimed she desperately needed the money. She misses all of them. Every time, claims some stupid shit came up, like she went out with friends, or went to get boba tea, or something else...[/QUOTE]This report explains why she's in dire financial straights. She's a flake. And why would she relocate to Alabama for a job that doesn't pay her bills.

$500 a day would have enabled her to easily make rent in Alabama, and the $100 cash infusions would have helped a lot too. Oh well. You made a wise choice to move on.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6354468]I've been PMing RyanHarvey a couple times to figure out what's up with this girl, but he hasn't responded, so I'll post the report here.

He gave me her contact and I've been texting and Snapchatting with her. Life is a mess, can't make rent for March. I offered to fly her to DC, give her $500/ day and plane ticket and hotel. Gave her an itinerary of the places I'd take her. She was nervous and said she wanted to bring a friend, and I agreed to that too.

She still needed money before she could come up, and asked me to send her cashapps. I told her I couldn't do that, been scammed too much, but maybe I could buy some content. I don't even like buying sex tapes, I was doing her a favor. Except she has no content, only some shitty nudes. I gave her $50 since she already sent them, but told her I won't pay for more. If she wants money, we can video chat.

We set up a 30 min call for $100 last Friday, Feb 24th. It was not great, she just sat in the bath and flashed me her tits and pussy, rubbed her clit a little. Totally not the very sexual talk I expected. Regardless, I set up video calls with her for Sat, Sun, and today because she claimed she desperately needed the money. She misses all of them. Every time, claims some stupid shit came up, like she went out with friends, or went to get boba tea, or something else..[/QUOTE]Dude, why did you even bother! You have the $$$ and the ability to go anywhere. Just set shit up with NYC girls. The coeds are more than willing to meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ab5c360-0ea4-4fbb-abae-e5c7112fede4[/URL]

Pretty sure this one is down for anyone. Photos look promising but I'm getting ghetto vibes so it's a no go.

Maybe a pro. Texted me to meet asap.

Contemplating getting snipped. Have to find a way of doing it without the warden finding out.

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6354024]Yep, snipped. Got snipped before most of these SBs were even born. Been shooting blanks for decades. While I have a warden, being snipped (neutered) allows for a level of OPSEC easily achieved and with which I'm comfortable. My OPSEC is most directed at keeping activities from the warden. For you guys who are not snipped, I hope you're practicing tight OPSEC. I can't imagine anything more motivating to a knocked-up SB than uncovering the true identity of Daddy and thereby securing an 18 year stream of payments.

Can confirm many SBs go unprotected.[/QUOTE]

It's an outpatient surgery. Easy in, easy out. The only post-op guidance was don't ejaculate for 2 weeks. To ensure healing. Went back to his office about 3 weeks post-op to provide a spew sample. No living creatures. Finis. My vasectomy was at the urging of the warden after we had a couple kids with no desire to have more.

[QUOTE=BDM1227;6355655]Contemplating getting snipped. Have to find a way of doing it without the warden finding out.[/QUOTE]

Have seen this girl twice now. She is a professional and I'm pretty sure she is an escort and has been in some porn movies. She has an insane manmade body, gives BBBJ but you need a cover for the rest. Damage was 3 bens at her place.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4ae253f9-0075-4d58-a1b3-826d38bbffe7[/URL]

To find her videos just google her number (it isn't hard to get from her).

[QUOTE=BDM1227;6355655]Contemplating getting snipped. Have to find a way of doing it without the warden finding out.[/QUOTE]I Told the warden I was getting snipped after our second child. My body my choice. *shrug*.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6355173][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ab5c360-0ea4-4fbb-abae-e5c7112fede4[/URL]

Pretty sure this one is down for anyone. Photos look promising but I'm getting ghetto vibes so it's a no go.

Maybe a pro. Texted me to meet asap.[/QUOTE]I messaged her about 2 weeks ago. She read but didn't respond. What's your secret dude?

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6355682]It's an outpatient surgery. Easy in, easy out. The only post-op guidance was don't ejaculate for 2 weeks. To ensure healing. Went back to his office about 3 weeks post-op to provide a spew sample. No living creatures. Finis. My vasectomy was at the urging of the warden after we had a couple kids with no desire to have more.[/QUOTE]I seriously considered getting snipped after I got a SB pregnant last year. Breathed a huge sigh of relief when I found out she wanted a baby as much as I did. Paid $550 for her to get an abortion pill. I was traveling in EU so was wondering if she was trying to get some extra cash from me so I did check with Planned Parenthood and it does cost that much these days. She was also a mess when we did finally meet up after I got back from my trip. Crying, horrible mood swings, clingy, everything she wasn't for the couple of years I had known her. So I don't think she was faking it. In any case, dogged a bullet and have decided to cut ties since this year is my last year of child support to an ex-gf who decided to have my kid and I don't need to restart another 18 yrs of that. I decided to stick with women my age vanilla dating. Finally met someone great but it would be very weird if I got snipped now. She knows about my past and said I could go ahead and get snipped if I were still afraid of impregnating other women (hard to show the sarcasm in her tone since she can't get pregnant). Pretty much nixes that procedure for me. But if I were still playing in the SB pool, I'd get snipped for sure. Maybe not for the younger ones who may still want to have kids some day.

[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;6356151]I messaged her about 2 weeks ago. She read but didn't respond. What's your secret dude?[/QUOTE]He has a good looking photo. SBs don't think they are escorts. They want to get paid, but they also want to fuck a hot older guy.

When I'm in shape and dressing well for m&g, the prices quoted are way lower LOL.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6355173][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8ab5c360-0ea4-4fbb-abae-e5c7112fede4[/URL]

Pretty sure this one is down for anyone. Photos look promising but I'm getting ghetto vibes so it's a no go.

Maybe a pro. Texted me to meet asap.[/QUOTE]Same. Put her through my standard questions and she was ready to meet the same day or tomorrow. Now list Richmond as her location. Probably on a tour looking for some extra business.

[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;6356151]I messaged her about 2 weeks ago. She read but didn't respond. What's your secret dude?[/QUOTE]Ghetto girls are all over SA. It's landing the coed girl next door type that's impossible.

An example. I can't sully my dick on these.

[QUOTE=Ichrequiend;6355829]Have seen this girl twice now. She is a professional and I'm pretty sure she is an escort and has been in some porn movies. She has an insane manmade body, gives BBBJ but you need a cover for the rest. Damage was 3 bens at her place.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4ae253f9-0075-4d58-a1b3-826d38bbffe7[/URL]

To find her videos just google her number (it isn't hard to get from her).[/QUOTE][URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/Virginia/Arlington/brittany17[/URL]

One pic bitches get the boot. I swipe Left on those broads.

VioletVicks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/092cbf57-e51a-4679-b1f3-5b28a1ae3067[/URL]

[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/Virginia/Fairfax/VioletVixxx[/URL]

This one's saving herself for marriage she says. I asked her, regardless of what amount of money I'm willing to offer still no sex? She said yes that's correct.

Damn shame.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7ef2b013-eead-4efb-8753-99cb9731ad5a[/URL]

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6356645]VioletVicks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/092cbf57-e51a-4679-b1f3-5b28a1ae3067[/URL]

[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/Virginia/Fairfax/VioletVixxx[/URL][/QUOTE]Is she a dwarf?

[QUOTE=SuckeredByaSB;6353138]I met a longterm SB on a non SB site. 8 months or so. I have a crazy undermarket PPM and I guess she finally figured it out. I knew she was on Seeking a year or so ago (but she maybe didn't know I knew) but she wasn't on Seeking the whole time we have been meeting.

Anyways, she is now. Do I care? I don't want to pay for exclusive and we didn't say we were exclusive, and I guess I don't mind if she has another guy in her rotation. But I also am not interested in a long-term SB that is getting hammered by 2 different of you random mongers a week.

Advice appreciated.[/QUOTE]Does her name start with a "A". One of my long term SBs also popped up and then vanished. She also increased her ppm (which she deserves) threefold. She isn't local now. But does come here.

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6356645]VioletVicks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/092cbf57-e51a-4679-b1f3-5b28a1ae3067[/URL]

[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/Virginia/Fairfax/VioletVixxx[/URL][/QUOTE]That's disgusting. This is street walker level back in the 80's.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;6356674]Is she a dwarf?[/QUOTE]Very short though not outside of usual ranges, but it's mostly that she's built like a fire hydrant.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6356410]Ghetto girls are all over SA. It's landing the coed girl next door type that's impossible.

An example. I can't sully my dick on these.[/QUOTE]I respect that. My approach may be off. But do you mind sharing info on her? 👀 I would be interested in testing once.

[QUOTE=FatWhiteGuy;6356451][URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/Virginia/Arlington/brittany17[/URL]

One pic bitches get the boot. I swipe Left on those broads.[/QUOTE]She's still ridiculously hot. See pics below that she sent me.

[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;6356860]I respect that. My approach may be off. But do you mind sharing info on her? 👀 I would be interested in testing once.[/QUOTE]Why, so you can see if she gives you the same $300 offer? Haha, prob not best for everybody's mental health to compare.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6354468]I've been PMing RyanHarvey a couple times to figure out what's up with this girl, but he hasn't responded, so I'll post the report here.

He gave me her contact and I've been texting and Snapchatting with her. Life is a mess, can't make rent for March. I offered to fly her to DC, give her $500/ day and plane ticket and hotel. Gave her an itinerary of the places I'd take her. She was nervous and said she wanted to bring a friend, and I agreed to that too.

She still needed money before she could come up, and asked me to send her cashapps. I told her I couldn't do that, been scammed too much, but maybe I could buy some content. I don't even like buying sex tapes, I was doing her a favor. Except she has no content, only some shitty nudes. I gave her $50 since she already sent them, but told her I won't pay for more. If she wants money, we can video chat.[/QUOTE]I tried to give the girl another chance, and again she blows me off. I hit her up in the morning, ask if she wants to try to make it work one last time. She says yes, so I ask her when she's free for a call. She says 5 PM, so I tell her I'm putting it on my calendar, don't stand me up.

5 PM rolls around, she tells me it'll be closer to 6 PM. 6 PM rolls around and I tell her I'm going to go eat. I get back at 7 PM, tell her I'm back and let me know when she can talk. 8 PM, I tell her if she doesn't talk today then I'm not going to ask again. She hits me back with the old "I have a life, you randomly tell me to call and don't care about my schedule, I don't need someone like that" line. I tell her good luck.

Was going to attach her photos, but don't want to get ratted out and get hit with a revenge porn lawsuit or something. She's really hot though, only reason I kept giving her chances. 21 and very tight body.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3ccda269-89e0-4969-b1ab-f0b1139c5e7c[/URL]

She's back now in Woodbridge. Nice girl that's fun but a lot of drama. Seniors PM for details but please have some information to share for Stafford, Fredericksburg areas. Thank you.

[QUOTE=CuriousVaMan;6356645]VioletVicks.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/092cbf57-e51a-4679-b1f3-5b28a1ae3067[/URL]

[URL]https://privatedelights.ch/USA/Virginia/Fairfax/VioletVixxx[/URL][/QUOTE]Saw her about 3 years ago in Tysons. Nice girl, wasnt my type to repeat. (Her voice sounded like Janice from Friends. You all remember her, Chandler's annoying chick) She has reviews on the oThER site. Used to live in DC and got assaulted and stabbed in the leg. She documented it all on her twitter. Seems to be still in the game. She's a trooper tho.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6357085]She's still ridiculously hot. See pics below that she sent me.

Why, so you can see if she gives you the same $300 offer? Haha, prob not best for everybody's mental health to compare.[/QUOTE]I saw her twice already, she is not ghetto at all but she is weird. She rushes time with her just like a bad escort, gave me the good old jackhammer HJ which made me pissed so I angry clapped her for 15 minutes non stop while whispering some weird shit (she is probably battling some demons). I confronted her about being the facts, she said she was in a couple of shoots but has never escorted before, she just wants some long term SDs.

You can look up her porn actress name as Jordy Love. She was in bangbros and everything. For $300 it is totally worth it.

[QUOTE=Ichrequiend;6357866]I saw her twice already, she is not ghetto at all but she is weird. She rushes time with her just like a bad escort, gave me the good old jackhammer HJ which made me pissed so I angry clapped her for 15 minutes non stop while whispering some weird shit (she is probably battling some demons). I confronted her about being the facts, she said she was in a couple of shoots but has never escorted before, she just wants some long term SDs.

You can look up her porn actress name as Jordy Love. She was in bangbros and everything. For $300 it is totally worth it.[/QUOTE]LOL! Her price will go up now since you posted her. I'm positive a bunch of mongers will hit her up!

Definitely not my type. You should try to hit as much as you can for 300.

I've been matching with a lot of older 35-50 off of bumble. There are some decent well off women on there. Lawyers, doctors, partners at consulting firm. However, my game is off since I've been using the same techniques which is meet some light convo and then I'd say let's go fuck.

I just need to make these older well off females fall for ke and make them be my sugar momma. It's literally not worth it on SA. The girls are uneducated, ghetto, fat. Like what's the point now.

2 yrs back there were a bunch of hot ones.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6358090]LOL! Her price will go up now since you posted her. I'm positive a bunch of mongers will hit her up!

Definitely not my type. You should try to hit as much as you can for 300.[/QUOTE]I think I am good on seeing her for now. I changed my tactic of thinking of talking to potentials as if I was in a dating app and took your advice that these girls only care about money, they don't really want a real relationship. Have a couple of m&gs for next week finally.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2a1ccb73-0228-4ee8-b0d0-3911e0dc50d9[/URL]

Any info in this one? She wants a m&g fee. Didn't specify any amount. Let's see what happens.

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6358105]I've been matching with a lot of older 35-50 off of bumble. There are some decent well off women on there. Lawyers, doctors, partners at consulting firm. However, my game is off since I've been using the same techniques which is meet some light convo and then I'd say let's go fuck.

I just need to make these older well off females fall for ke and make them be my sugar momma. It's literally not worth it on SA. The girls are uneducated, ghetto, fat. Like what's the point now.

2 yrs back there were a bunch of hot ones.[/QUOTE]I agree. Seeking quality is way down and the prices are way up.

Better off getting 39 year old pussy for free. I'm nailing a hot Sudanese now in Loudoun, better than paying insane prices for girls you wouldn't fuck in college.

2 years ago I was getting 23 year old Asian music teachers grads of JMU for 350. I'm not paying more for ghetto pros.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c6cf9d52-0c45-40f7-bfc4-41f90dbce027[/URL]

WTF wants a m&g fee so I said don't bother let's just fuck.

[QUOTE=SuckeredByaSB;6358392]I agree. Seeking quality is way down and the prices are way up.

Better off getting 39 year old pussy for free. I'm nailing a hot Sudanese now in Loudoun, better than paying insane prices for girls you wouldn't fuck in college.

2 years ago I was getting 23 year old Asian music teachers grads of JMU for 350. I'm not paying more for ghetto pros.[/QUOTE]Yes, I'm glad you agree. I knew something was way off with sa. Basic girls asking for 700 plus and hood rats want 500. WTF.

Are we not in a recession. Which one of you desperate mongers are inflating this shit. Its absolutely crazy.

I was banging Hawa for 300. That went on for several months.

[QUOTE=Ichrequiend;6357866]I saw her twice already, she is not ghetto at all but she is weird. She rushes time with her just like a bad escort, gave me the good old jackhammer HJ which made me pissed so I angry clapped her for 15 minutes non stop while whispering some weird shit (she is probably battling some demons). I confronted her about being the facts, she said she was in a couple of shoots but has never escorted before, she just wants some long term SDs.

You can look up her porn actress name as Jordy Love. She was in bangbros and everything. For $300 it is totally worth it.[/QUOTE]Yea same experience for me. Totally fake acting, I touch her pussy and she starts moaning loudly, and 10 seconds later is like "I came, you're so good at that. ".

Jackhammer HJ, won't ride except if you force her, then she'll do it reluctantly, oral was shit, won't do BB.

I got her to agree to 300 for 2 H, and it was so bad I couldn't stay hard. Finally jacked myself off and then left after only 1 hour, miserable time. She also has disgusting fake ass, tits. Her photos that she sends makes her look like a light-skin mixed girl, but in person she's dark as shit, just like her vids.

[QUOTE=SuckeredByaSB;6358392]I agree. Seeking quality is way down and the prices are way up.

Better off getting 39 year old pussy for free. I'm nailing a hot Sudanese now in Loudoun, better than paying insane prices for girls you wouldn't fuck in college.

2 years ago I was getting 23 year old Asian music teachers grads of JMU for 350. I'm not paying more for ghetto pros.[/QUOTE]Yes, I know. I can't adapt to these new ones. It's like eating at Mortons and now I've to go to Outback.

Fuck that.

Girls that are browsing. Do something go on Atkins, cut 50 lbs. Do something.

The media is lying when it says to embrace thickness or fat as a pig.

[QUOTE=SuckeredByaSB;6358392]I agree. Seeking quality is way down and the prices are way up.

Better off getting 39 year old pussy for free. I'm nailing a hot Sudanese now in Loudoun, better than paying insane prices for girls you wouldn't fuck in college.

2 years ago I was getting 23 year old Asian music teachers grads of JMU for 350. I'm not paying more for ghetto pros.[/QUOTE]I don't disagree with either of you. Quality has gone way down over the years. So here is the question. How do you do Bumble (or other dating apps) if you are married and need to fly under the radar? I don't have public profile pictures on Seeking, but imagine that wouldn't fly on traditional dating apps? Also, not looking to change my marital situation, but would love to hook up.

[QUOTE=SuckeredByaSB;6358392]I agree. Seeking quality is way down and the prices are way up.

Better off getting 39 year old pussy for free. I'm nailing a hot Sudanese now in Loudoun, better than paying insane prices for girls you wouldn't fuck in college.

2 years ago I was getting 23 year old Asian music teachers grads of JMU for 350. I'm not paying more for ghetto pros.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6358105]I've been matching with a lot of older 35-50 off of bumble. There are some decent well off women on there. Lawyers, doctors, partners at consulting firm. However, my game is off since I've been using the same techniques which is meet some light convo and then I'd say let's go fuck.

I just need to make these older well off females fall for ke and make them be my sugar momma. It's literally not worth it on SA. The girls are uneducated, ghetto, fat. Like what's the point now.

2 yrs back there were a bunch of hot ones.[/QUOTE]If I recall, like me you are married. How do you pull off Bumble and maintain some level of discretion? Would love to join, but last thing I need is a friend of my wife to see my profile.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6357085]She's still ridiculously hot. See pics below that she sent me.

Why, so you can see if she gives you the same $300 offer? Haha, prob not best for everybody's mental health to compare.[/QUOTE]I'm not too concerned about the $300 ppm. I'm not old, overweight, or unattractive by any standard. But I'm noticing some guys on here posting SBs that saying that they messaged with them and chose to pass. The same girls have left me on read with no response. I'm considering that my approach may be wrong. Or maybe it's just the picture, who knows. I thought money was the main motivator.

[QUOTE=RudyWellz;6358751]I don't disagree with either of you. Quality has gone way down over the years. So here is the question. How do you do Bumble (or other dating apps) if you are married and need to fly under the radar? I don't have public profile pictures on Seeking, but imagine that wouldn't fly on traditional dating apps? Also, not looking to change my marital situation, but would love to hook up.[/QUOTE]The funny thing is, if you talk to SB's who've done this a while, they'll complain about how the quality of men is lower on Seeking too. Lots of young guys hoping to use it as a generic dating app, a lot of "johns" who just give a dollar amount to come over and fuck.

Then the question becomes, if high value men and women aren't on Seeking anymore, where are they? For women, the easy answer is OF, but what about men?

[QUOTE=DasHottCalla;6358781]I'm not too concerned about the $300 ppm. I'm not old, overweight, or unattractive by any standard. But I'm noticing some guys on here posting SBs that saying that they messaged with them and chose to pass. The same girls have left me on read with no response. I'm considering that my approach may be wrong. Or maybe it's just the picture, who knows. I thought money was the main motivator.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RudyWellz;6358753]If I recall, like me you are married. How do you pull off Bumble and maintain some level of discretion? Would love to join, but last thing I need is a friend of my wife to see my profile.[/QUOTE]There is a way. You have to pay of course LOL. When you get the paid version you can use incognito mode. The only people who can see your profile are ones that you swipe right on (like). You can also use travel mode to change your location.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6358934]The funny thing is, if you talk to SB's who've done this a while, they'll complain about how the quality of men is lower on Seeking too. Lots of young guys hoping to use it as a generic dating app, a lot of "johns" who just give a dollar amount to come over and fuck.

Then the question becomes, if high value men and women aren't on Seeking anymore, where are they? For women, the easy answer is OF, but what about men?[/QUOTE]I see what you're saying. I'm on the younger side, mid 30's. So I guess they don't take me seriously.