Strip Club Reports

In Detroit after a few moons and found time to visit BT's Dearborn. Arrived at 830 pm to a dead club which is typical for that hour. Talent was just OK with about half of the dancers in the girl next door category. First I had a light dinner of a Greek salad, which was much improved from my last visit. After I ate my fill I started laying dollars on the stage dancers. I consider this to be a good device to screen the level of enthusiasm. Laid a few dollars on Passion, an AA dancer with moderate ink, medium boobs with big nips and a friendly personality. Passion let me know that she remembered me from her last BT's employment 2. 5 years in the past. My memory banks kicked in and I remembered some outstanding BBBJTCIM action, so off we went to the VIP. Started with a little DATY, which resulted in a sudden leg crushing of my head when she did her CUM action. Oh well, at least I know that she enjoyed it. Then we switched and she proceeded to give a long smooth wet BBBJ. Our session was interrupted by a dispute between a patron and a dancer in the next booth. The patron was super loud and angry but the cocksucking proceeded unharmed. Finally busted and dumped a big load into Passion's mouth. She savored the cum in her mouth for a bit but then did a spit into a small bucket. My memory says she swallowed the load in the past, but not a big deal since the cumming is the key. Overall I always seem to find a good choice at BT's. Just need to be patient and be clear as what services you want. Will repeat on my next trip to Detroit.

[QUOTE=HardOn;4261921]In Detroit after a few moons and found time to visit BT's Dearborn. Arrived at 830 pm to a dead club which is typical for that hour. Talent was just OK with about half of the dancers in the girl next door category. First I had a light dinner of a Greek salad, which was much improved from my last visit. After I ate my fill I started laying dollars on the stage dancers. I consider this to be a good device to screen the level of enthusiasm. Laid a few dollars on Passion, an AA dancer with moderate ink, medium boobs with big nips and a friendly personality. Passion let me know that she remembered me from her last BT's employment 2. 5 years in the past. My memory banks kicked in and I remembered some outstanding BBBJTCIM action, so off we went to the VIP. Started with a little DATY, which resulted in a sudden leg crushing of my head when she did her CUM action. Oh well, at least I know that she enjoyed it. Then we switched and she proceeded to give a long smooth wet BBBJ. Our session was interrupted by a dispute between a patron and a dancer in the next booth. The patron was super loud and angry but the cocksucking proceeded unharmed. Finally busted and dumped a big load into Passion's mouth. She savored the cum in her mouth for a bit but then did a spit into a small bucket. My memory says she swallowed the load in the past, but not a big deal since the cumming is the key. Overall I always seem to find a good choice at BT's. Just need to be patient and be clear as what services you want. Will repeat on my next trip to Detroit.[/QUOTE]Love getting my head crushed by legs.

[QUOTE=AllSevenDays;4261417]That's the kind of review from the old daze that I miss. Thanks for postin. Been there only once long time ago, I don't even remember if I had fun there. Nice you got what you went for. Little steep but hey. A7 D.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the kind words regarding the review. It was honest and perhaps I'm jaded by the Vegas clubs. I nearly walked with a pocket full of cash and bad intentions but I figured, when in "Rome" make the best of things.

First, there was actually an abundance of girls today. Definitely an age range, and variety, for those interested. I would estimate roughly 14 girls working. Two of the girls jumped out at me. Luna was a tall thin blonde, with a very nice swingy rack. For one reason, or another, I really enjoy boobs that sag a bit. These were not deflated, or anything. Had a very nice shape, just perfectly natural. Siren is one of the most beautiful girls I've ever seen. Perfect combination of face, big boobs, and a little bit of booty. Perfectly sweet young lady, that I hope to get to know better. She openly said she does not perform extras. Just curious if anybody has been able to get extras from her.

Hey all,

New guy here. First off, I appreciate anyone taking the time to help answer my questions.

Long story short, I was recently in St. Louis, went to a SC, bonded with a girl there, then she offered to meet me back at my hotel room after her shift was over. We did so and had a great cap off to the evening. I gave her a generous donation then she left. So I figured I could make something like this happen again while I am visiting Detroit.

So here is what I gathered from digging through the thread:

If I am looking for extras, these are the places to go to. BT's, Bogarts, and Silver Cricket.

If I simply want to see hot girls strip, Legends would be my best bet.

Am I on the right track here?

I was hoping Legends would have filthy extra fun, but I have not read anything here about it. I am guessing it is too high profile of a place to have that happen since it is downtown. My hotel will be pretty close by so I will check out still, because I have read it is a good time. I suppose anything can happen, but I should not go in expecting anything like that, correct?

The most talked about ones on here are a 10 min uber trip away, so it is not too big of a deal. Once again, I appreciate any feed back!

Many Thanks,

Fettman.

[QUOTE=Lotsoffun201;4262398]I appreciate the kind words regarding the review. It was honest and perhaps I'm jaded by the Vegas clubs. I nearly walked with a pocket full of cash and bad intentions but I figured, when in "Rome" make the best of things.[/QUOTE]Which Vegas clubs?

I have never been to Vegas but I have not heard good things. I would love to know a good club to visit.

MM.

[QUOTE=MareloboMex;4265088]Which Vegas clubs?

I have never been to Vegas but I have not heard good things. I would love to know a good club to visit.

MM.[/QUOTE]I like Crazy Horse 3 dayshift or even early mornings (11:00 am-2:00 pm. Best mileage and easier to set up an OTC. Although lately there has been a Cuban invasion there and those girls are ruthless. You can't beat them off with a stick. They don't speak English but I thought NO was the same in English or Spanish?

I AVOID the mega clubs as they tend to be a huge waste of money. All the girls are 9+ and have serious cases of GPS.

[QUOTE=FettMan;4265076]Hey all,

New guy here. First off, I appreciate anyone taking the time to help answer my questions.

Long story short, I was recently in St. Louis, went to a SC, bonded with a girl there, then she offered to meet me back at my hotel room after her shift was over. We did so and had a great cap off to the evening. I gave her a generous donation then she left. So I figured I could make something like this happen again while I am visiting Detroit.

So here is what I gathered from digging through the thread:

If I am looking for extras, these are the places to go to. BT's, Bogarts, and Silver Cricket.

If I simply want to see hot girls strip, Legends would be my best bet.

Am I on the right track here?

I was hoping Legends would have filthy extra fun, but I have not read anything here about it. I am guessing it is too high profile of a place to have that happen since it is downtown. My hotel will be pretty close by so I will check out still, because I have read it is a good time. I suppose anything can happen, but I should not go in expecting anything like that, correct?

The most talked about ones on here are a 10 min uber trip away, so it is not too big of a deal. Once again, I appreciate any feed back!

Many Thanks,

Fettman.[/QUOTE]1 Bogarts is so freaking nasty you will feel like you need to shower stepping foot in the place.

2 BT on 8-Mile sucks, go to the one in Dearborn.

3 I doubt you would get extras at legends.

4 I would go to Coliseum where you can see really hot girls and get extras. I haven't paid over $1.4 for FS in ages. About a 15 min Uber ride from downtown.
Normally when it comes to negotiations I tell them I have $1.2 and a cover. 85% this gets the deal.

5 OTC maybe tricky to negotiate on short notice, unless you are paying lots.

6 Have fun and report back! Cheers!

Went to SC last night, haven't been there in ages in the evening. Unfortunately there was a $10 cover. I never pay this anywhere else, but the parking is free.

Plenty of talent, and a few stunning AA dancers, with bodies like amusement parks.

"Lea" sat with me, she is AA, nice body, 23. She normally dances at PH, but was put on a 2 week probation.

When it came to negotiations, she quoted $$ for CFS, I countered with $1. 2. She said she realizes PH rates won't fly there, and I said no they won't.

She accepted, we went back and a good time was had by all and she realizes the PH distortion reality zone GPS does not work-.

Like all things YMMV.

[QUOTE=FrankBeans;4087177]Has anyone found Ashley now that she's 86'd from H8?

Will tonight be busy or slow at the club?

Thanks![/QUOTE]She back there now.

[QUOTE=TomTigers;4265857]1 Bogarts is so freaking nasty you will feel like you need to shower stepping foot in the place.

2 BT on 8-Mile sucks, go to the one in Dearborn.

3 I doubt you would get extras at legends.

4 I would go to Coliseum where you can see really hot girls and get extras. I haven't paid over $1.4 for FS in ages. About a 15 min Uber ride from downtown.
Normally when it comes to negotiations I tell them I have $1.2 and a cover. 85% this gets the deal.

5 OTC maybe tricky to negotiate on short notice, unless you are paying lots.

6 Have fun and report back! Cheers![/QUOTE]A bit more of a commute but I also recommend at trip to the western and southern suburbs, such as Inkster for Flight Club (on the pricey end), or to Romulus for the Landing Strip and to Southgate for Subi's. Would love to hear about your adventures.

[QUOTE=TomTigers;4265857]1 Bogarts is so freaking nasty you will feel like you need to shower stepping foot in the place.

2 BT on 8-Mile sucks, go to the one in Dearborn.

3 I doubt you would get extras at legends.

4 I would go to Coliseum where you can see really hot girls and get extras. I haven't paid over $1.4 for FS in ages. About a 15 min Uber ride from downtown.
Normally when it comes to negotiations I tell them I have $1.2 and a cover. 85% this gets the deal.

5 OTC maybe tricky to negotiate on short notice, unless you are paying lots.

6 Have fun and report back! Cheers![/QUOTE]I greatly appreciate the info, Tom Tiger! Ill ditch the Bogarts and try Coliseum instead.

It seems my best options for extras now are BT's, Flight, Cricket and Coliseum. It's a shame that they are all so far apart, but oh well.

As for saftey, I understand to use common sense. I'm not to go wander outside the club or anything. I will uber there and uber back to my hotel.

[QUOTE=TomTigers;4265857]1 Bogarts is so freaking nasty you will feel like you need to shower stepping foot in the place.

2 BT on 8-Mile sucks, go to the one in Dearborn.

3 I doubt you would get extras at legends.

4 I would go to Coliseum where you can see really hot girls and get extras. I haven't paid over $1.4 for FS in ages. About a 15 min Uber ride from downtown.
Normally when it comes to negotiations I tell them I have $1.2 and a cover. 85% this gets the deal.

5 OTC maybe tricky to negotiate on short notice, unless you are paying lots.

6 Have fun and report back! Cheers![/QUOTE]Everything pretty much sucks. Flight Club girls are quoting 200 for a BJ and 300 for sex and the talent level isn't what it used to be. Landing Strip talent was all fat and ugly the last time I was there a month ago. And Coliseum is no better, way too many fat and ugly girls and very few of the hot ones left. You know its bad when even the pimps pull their girls out of Coli. Everything is bad out there now. So bad that I'm actually socking away the spending cash now the last few months and might have to run to the bank to deposit the money. The girls come and they go but lately it just seems like they've all left for good.

Thanks Electroman and Tom Tigers!

It is what it is, StripperLover. There is always Tijuana or Thailand if you really need some cheaper lovin'. Getting there is the hard part though.

So the ones to hit up for extras would be BT's, Flight Club, Coli, and Cricket. Possibly Subis and Landing Strip as well. Legends would be the one to go to if I just want a show and some food.

For general safety, I understand to use common sense. I don't plan on wandering outside the clubs or anything. The only times I would be going out would be to get into an Uber. I am slim tall white dude and will be riding solo. I just want to know if this you think I will be alright or not. I will probably hit up the more expensive places, just to be safe.

Once again, thanks guys! I will certainly write a report if I manage to get away from work.

[QUOTE=TomTigers;4265857]1 Bogarts is so freaking nasty you will feel like you need to shower stepping foot in the place.
[/QUOTE]I'll see your shower and raise "You'll want to burn the clothes you wore into Henry the 8th's south on Dix Toledo Highway".

I've not been there in a while, but always left feeling ashamed of myself and wishing I'd brought a change of clothes. It's where the strip club junkie hits bottom LOL.

Day shift had a hot blonde but she was charging 150/300 all covered so I passed and waited for night crew.

Mother of God was the night crew amazing. At least 7 8's with a couple who you could argue were 9's and 1 definite 10 who doesn't do extras.

I ended up with Miley because she's extremely sexy, inexpensive, and provides one of the best BBBJs ever. I ended up taking her back twice to return the favor.

Treat Miley well, she's worth it.

[QUOTE=Timberwolf;4266847]I'll see your shower and raise "You'll want to burn the clothes you wore into Henry the 8th's south on Dix Toledo Highway".

I've not been there in a while, but always left feeling ashamed of myself and wishing I'd brought a change of clothes. It's where the strip club junkie hits bottom LOL.[/QUOTE]Ha! Exactly: the strip club version of street walkers- its awful!

[QUOTE=FettMan;4265076]Hey all,

New guy here. First off, I appreciate anyone taking the time to help answer my questions.

Long story short, I was recently in St. Louis, went to a SC, bonded with a girl there, then she offered to meet me back at my hotel room after her shift was over. We did so and had a great cap off to the evening. I gave her a generous donation then she left. So I figured I could make something like this happen again while I am visiting Detroit.

So here is what I gathered from digging through the thread:

If I am looking for extras, these are the places to go to. BT's, Bogarts, and Silver Cricket.

If I simply want to see hot girls strip, Legends would be my best bet.

Am I on the right track here?

I was hoping Legends would have filthy extra fun, but I have not read anything here about it. I am guessing it is too high profile of a place to have that happen since it is downtown. My hotel will be pretty close by so I will check out still, because I have read it is a good time. I suppose anything can happen, but I should not go in expecting anything like that, correct?

The most talked about ones on here are a 10 min uber trip away, so it is not too big of a deal. Once again, I appreciate any feed back!

Many Thanks,

Fettman.[/QUOTE]1 - there's nothing wrong with Bogarts, no valet parking, excellent food, girls will do it all cheap but most won't do BBBJ, just CBJ. The VIP "booths" are nice and roomy, although I've heard that when they're busy they put a curtain in the big rooms to make them 2 rooms.

2 - H8N is my favorite club in Motown, no valet parking, no food, the sluttiest girls, most will do BBBJ. Like bogies, it's a dive. The VIP booths are quite small.

3 - cricket is more upscale than bogies or H8N, excellent food, nice slutty women.

I don't go to clubs that require you to give them your car keys and let them drive your vehicle. Personally, I don't see any reason to spend more than $150. If you have a big budget, take several girls back. Bogies and h8 and are dives, but they're clean, friendly and cheap. IMHO neither is as bad as people here portray.

I've never taken a dancer to a hotel room from the bar, goid luck!

[QUOTE=FettMan;4265076]Hey all,

New guy here. First off, I appreciate anyone taking the time to help answer my questions.

Long story short, I was recently in St. Louis, went to a SC, bonded with a girl there, then she offered to meet me back at my hotel room after her shift was over. We did so and had a great cap off to the evening. I gave her a generous donation then she left. So I figured I could make something like this happen again while I am visiting Detroit.

So here is what I gathered from digging through the thread:

If I am looking for extras, these are the places to go to. BT's, Bogarts, and Silver Cricket.

If I simply want to see hot girls strip, Legends would be my best bet.

Am I on the right track here?

I was hoping Legends would have filthy extra fun, but I have not read anything here about it. I am guessing it is too high profile of a place to have that happen since it is downtown. My hotel will be pretty close by so I will check out still, because I have read it is a good time. I suppose anything can happen, but I should not go in expecting anything like that, correct?

The most talked about ones on here are a 10 min uber trip away, so it is not too big of a deal. Once again, I appreciate any feed back!

Many Thanks,

Fettman.[/QUOTE]If your hotel is in downtown Detroit, making all the way out to Flight Club, Bogarts or H8 N is quite the hike! I would go to Legends or Bazouki.

[QUOTE=TomTigers;4265857]1 Bogarts is so freaking nasty you will feel like you need to shower stepping foot in the place.

2 BT on 8-Mile sucks, go to the one in Dearborn.

3 I doubt you would get extras at legends.

4 I would go to Coliseum where you can see really hot girls and get extras. I haven't paid over $1.4 for FS in ages. About a 15 min Uber ride from downtown.
Normally when it comes to negotiations I tell them I have $1.2 and a cover. 85% this gets the deal.

5 OTC maybe tricky to negotiate on short notice, unless you are paying lots.

6 Have fun and report back! Cheers![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;4267369]1 - there's nothing wrong with Bogarts, no valet parking, excellent food, girls will do it all cheap but most won't do BBBJ, just CBJ. The VIP "booths" are nice and roomy, although I've heard that when they're busy they put a curtain in the big rooms to make them 2 rooms.

2 - H8N is my favorite club in Motown, no valet parking, no food, the sluttiest girls, most will do BBBJ. Like bogies, it's a dive. The VIP booths are quite small.

3 - cricket is more upscale than bogies or H8N, excellent food, nice slutty women.

I don't go to clubs that require you to give them your car keys and let them drive your vehicle. Personally, I don't see any reason to spend more than $150. If you have a big budget, take several girls back. Bogies and h8 and are dives, but they're clean, friendly and cheap. IMHO neither is as bad as people here portray.

I've never taken a dancer to a hotel room from the bar, goid luck![/QUOTE]Is there a back story to why most of the dancers at Bogarts will not do BBBJ when that service is often available at other clubs?

[QUOTE=Etj4588;4267566]If your hotel is in downtown Detroit, making all the way out to Flight Club, Bogarts or H8 N is quite the hike! I would go to Legends or Bazouki.[/QUOTE]If you want extras don't follow this guy's advice. These clubs are intended for drunk guys who wander in after a tigers game and feel like spending $25 for a mildly attractive girl to grind on you for 2. 5 minutes.

All of this is a big maybe but: I plan to be in Detroit next week. There's a comedian I like performing at the Filmore. The show will be over at 10 PM I guess. I hear Detroit is a great place for extras at Strip Clubs. I live in Lansing, and rarely have a reason to travel to Detroit, so I want to partake. The absolute MOST I want to do is finger a girl. I mostly have a fetish for smelling girls' naked buttholes. What club (or clubs) would be good for this on a budget of 200?

I can't remember the last time I saw so many girls that were so fat. I was staring at the stage like I was driving by an accident on the highway. The few girls under 200 pounds were with regulars. I don't know why anyone goes there. There were a lot of girls there but definitely quantity without much quality.

Had a spur of the moment stop in at players last night. First time in there and was actually kinda impressed. Good number of girls all at least decent looking and not many people in there at all. Definitely more dancers than customers. Got a nice dance from a very attractive early 20's AA dancer with pierced nips. I think she said her name was Jay but probably changing it soon. Tried talking her into extras but she said she doesn't do them. Said she would give me a HJ though but I declined so I could see more being available eventually maybe? She said some girls do extras but all the ones me and my buddy talked to said they don't. Would love to hear from you guys as to which ones do extras or if anyone has had luck with Jay. Thanks.

[QUOTE=DonnyBrasco;4268706]If you want extras don't follow this guy's advice. These clubs are intended for drunk guys who wander in after a tigers game and feel like spending $25 for a mildly attractive girl to grind on you for 2. 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]Would you agree with Cricket, Flight Club and maybe even BT's?

[QUOTE=HungaryMan;4269301]Would you agree with Cricket, Flight Club and maybe even BT's?[/QUOTE]Yes extras are very available at all 3 of those. Flight Club most expensive, BTs and Cricket are cheaper but depend on the girl.

She is early 20's, Native American & White, red hair, A-cup tits, nice booty, petite build, and a 7. 5 appearance rating. Damage for covered half & half with DFK was 130. I would repeat.

[QUOTE=Electronman;4268663]Is there a back story to why most of the dancers at Bogarts will not do BBBJ when that service is often available at other clubs?[/QUOTE]I've wondered about that myself. I suspect one of the dancers "educates" the other dancers about safe sex.

[QUOTE=Electronman;4268663]Is there a back story to why most of the dancers at Bogarts will not do BBBJ when that service is often available at other clubs?[/QUOTE]I have got BBBJ from a few girls there it's just not a sure thing like some other places.

[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;4254165]all were white except for one AA, and she was an absolute 10 - young, perfect body, cute face, unbelievable. I watched her dance but wasn't re-charged enough to make a move on her. Damn, next time. [/QUOTE]That's Angel. Best BBBJ in a strip club. She swallowed in the pass but now she only spits. Will not except less than $200 for CFS.

[QUOTE=JulesJordan;4269890]She is early 20's, Native American & White, red hair, A-cup tits, nice booty, petite build, and a 7. 5 appearance rating. Damage for covered half & half with DFK was 130. I would repeat.[/QUOTE]Day time or night time with her?

Just a note to Silver Cricket fans. An AA dancer is returning on the night shift. Short busty, naturals, always was enjoyable time in the past. Goes by Jasmine.

I plan to make my way up to visit again. If any of you have seen her and would be willing to report that would be appreciated.

If you like feel free to PM me.

Regard's.

RT88.

[QUOTE=Tractorman;4195308]2nd time with this day shift dancer. It was almost GFE like experience. She was very horny and was into DFK. Same as first time, no rush & no drama & takes a pounding without compliant.

However. Previous visit I had impression Greek might be available but this time it was definite no.

Also this time pressed hard for BBBJ vs CBJ and that to was not to be had even. If anyone ever has different experience please let me know.[/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time. She changed the deal on me back in the VIP. I would recommend skipping her. She isn't honest.

[QUOTE=GuyDetroit;4271373]I have got BBBJ from a few girls there it's just not a sure thing like some other places.[/QUOTE]About 9 months ago, one of the Bogart's dancers gave me a lecture about Hep B when I asked her about a BBBJ. The dancers at any given club probably share concerns and advice (and maybe germs?) with each other. So it is possible that different clubs will have different practices for many of their dancers.

Is there 2 different AA Jens or Jennifer at Hanks north? Seen one about a ROB and another that had specials back in the day.

[QUOTE=DonnyBrasco;4268706]If you want extras don't follow this guy's advice. These clubs are intended for drunk guys who wander in after a tigers game and feel like spending $25 for a mildly attractive girl to grind on you for 2. 5 minutes.[/QUOTE]Spot on! I have stumbled into Bouzouki way too many times over the years out of convenience and never been un-disappointed. Decent eye candy but do not bother with a private dance. Go North or South!

[QUOTE=JulesJordan;4269890]She is early 20's, Native American & White, red hair, A-cup tits, nice booty, petite build, and a 7. 5 appearance rating. Damage for covered half & half with DFK was 130. I would repeat.[/QUOTE]The truth, weighs is at 105 lbs. She is 22 and has a baby girl. Didn't notice any stretch marks. I will repeat.

[QUOTE=Electronman;4277283]About 9 months ago, one of the Bogart's dancers gave me a lecture about Hep B when I asked her about a BBBJ. The dancers at any given club probably share concerns and advice (and maybe germs?) with each other. So it is possible that different clubs will have different practices for many of their dancers.[/QUOTE]A while back, when Cashmere was around at Henry's North, I remember getting double dances with her and another woman, with the other dancer telling me after Cashmere left the room that she gets kind of risky.

Yeah. Dancers know what goes on. People talk.

As this is my first post, I'd first like to thank everyone for the sage advice and interesting stories. Now it's time to return the favor. I was out of the game for about 10 years and back then I was a rookie. I've been getting back into it in recent months. It turns out that I'm older now but not always wiser. I have a feeling this post might evoke some strong opinions.

I planned to make a whole day of it Saturday, with one or two encounters depending on how things went. Started at LS around 1:30. There were only 4 girls working, 1 of them AA. Sorry I'm terrible with names. One chatted with me a while but didn't seem to have anything on the menu. Got offers from 2 others girls (JJ?) for $$ but they would not budge so I decided to move along.

This where it gets interesting. I checked out Subi's for the first time. Got there around 3:30, only 4 dancers on shift there too. Star got a hold of me before I could talk to anyone else-- I wish they would give you time to breathe but that's the biz I guess. Anyways, she's thin, pretty cute, and had a lot going on in back. I have been eager to try AA so decided to go for it. We negotiated $. 8 for FS and off we went. First bad sign was that she lost her cool when I wouldn't pay up front, even after showing her the money. Ok, we moved on. She proceeded to give me what I thought were nice, unrushed dances for several songs. As much as I enjoyed it, the truth is that lap dances just don't get me fully hard. All the sudden I hear the DJ say "Star, you're up in 1 song". WTF? Why didn't she say something? She said she was waiting on me the whole time, which may be true but missing the point. I threw on a hat and tried to get her to rush through it but at that point I was clearly not ready. She promised to come back with me again after her set, which she did, and I have to give her credit for that. I felt like I was partially to blame (I won't make the same mistake again, see below) so I offered her the other. 5 I had in my pocket. I should not have done that. When we got back in there all she did was complain. She woundn't go down on me to get me hard or do anything else once I got myself there. I basically guilted her into jerking me off. We exchanged awkward goodbyes and I grabbed my stuff to leave. Here's the kicker-- I forgot to save 6 bucks for the valet. I went back in to look for the ATM. She spotted me and asked what I was doing, then gave me some tip money. PL.

AT LEAST it helped me figure out what kind of monger I am. I got in the car and went where I should have in the first place-- H8. I have fond memories of H8 South from my rookie days but choose to check out H8 North for the first time. I had an offer before I could sit down. I wasn't much into her so didn't get a name or price. Once I was able to pry myself loose I found a cute blonde named Morgan. She said $. 4 for CFS and I said great because I didn't feel like haggling over 20 bucks at that point. This time I made sure she knew that everything worked fine as long as she did her part. I'm happy to report that her whole throat did its part, along with the rest of her as I pounded her contorted body into the corner of the booth. I left very happy.

So that's who I am. I have eyes, I'm aware of the quality difference between somewhere like a LS and a H8. I must have a subconscious pass / fail rating system and actually I kinda like how disgusting the Hamilton clubs are. There's something about sitting down with a beer, looking at all the girls, and being able to choose pretty much any dancer you want. I own a washing machine, too.

Good luck out there!

[QUOTE=CharlesBarfley;4282208]As this is my first post, I'd first like to thank everyone for the sage advice and interesting stories. Now it's time to return the favor. I was out of the game for about 10 years and back then I was a rookie. I've been getting back into it in recent months. It turns out that I'm older now but not always wiser. I have a feeling this post might evoke some strong opinions.

I planned to make a whole day of it Saturday, with one or two encounters depending on how things went. Started at LS around 1:30. There were only 4 girls working, 1 of them AA. Sorry I'm terrible with names. One chatted with me a while but didn't seem to have anything on the menu. Got offers from 2 others girls (JJ?) for $$ but they would not budge so I decided to move along.

This where it gets interesting. I checked out Subi's for the first time. Got there around 3:30, only 4 dancers on shift there too. Star got a hold of me before I could talk to anyone else-- I wish they would give you time to breathe but that's the biz I guess. Anyways, she's thin, pretty cute, and had a lot going on in back. I have been eager to try AA so decided to go for it. We negotiated $. 8 for FS and off we went. First bad sign was that she lost her cool when I wouldn't pay up front, even after showing her the money. Ok, we moved on. She proceeded to give me what I thought were nice, unrushed dances for several songs. As much as I enjoyed it, the truth is that lap dances just don't get me fully hard. All the sudden I hear the DJ say "Star, you're up in 1 song". WTF? Why didn't she say something? She said she was waiting on me the whole time, which may be true but missing the point. I threw on a hat and tried to get her to rush through it but at that point I was clearly not ready. She promised to come back with me again after her set, which she did, and I have to give her credit for that. I felt like I was partially to blame (I won't make the same mistake again, see below) so I offered her the other. 5 I had in my pocket. I should not have done that. When we got back in there all she did was complain. She woundn't go down on me to get me hard or do anything else once I got myself there. I basically guilted her into jerking me off. We exchanged awkward goodbyes and I grabbed my stuff to leave. Here's the kicker-- I forgot to save 6 bucks for the valet. I went back in to look for the ATM. She spotted me and asked what I was doing, then gave me some tip money. PL.

AT LEAST it helped me figure out what kind of monger I am. I got in the car and went where I should have in the first place-- H8. I have fond memories of H8 South from my rookie days but choose to check out H8 North for the first time. I had an offer before I could sit down. I wasn't much into her so didn't get a name or price. Once I was able to pry myself loose I found a cute blonde named Morgan. She said $. 4 for CFS and I said great because I didn't feel like haggling over 20 bucks at that point. This time I made sure she knew that everything worked fine as long as she did her part. I'm happy to report that her whole throat did its part, along with the rest of her as I pounded her contorted body into the corner of the booth. I left very happy.

So that's who I am. I have eyes, I'm aware of the quality difference between somewhere like a LS and a H8. I must have a subconscious pass / fail rating system and actually I kinda like how disgusting the Hamilton clubs are. There's something about sitting down with a beer, looking at all the girls, and being able to choose pretty much any dancer you want. I own a washing machine, too.

Good luck out there![/QUOTE]CB,

You did fine. At least you got out there and tried and you will learn and get better. Every guy here has gone through what you did at some point.

When negotiating with the girl ask her if she is up on stage soon. Or better yet tell her part of the fun for you is watching her dance on stage and then going to the VIP with her. Tell her you will be ready for her as soon as she finished her stage set. You can even tip her dollar when she is on stage. I particularly like this as I prefer perky tits that are not pierced and not filled with silicone and I can't always tell until I see her dance on stage.

My only advise to you is once things start to turn bad in the VIP, just cut your losses and move on. I have never seen a bad situation improve, but I have seen lots of bad situations get worse by guys throwing more money at it.

Keep trying and keep reporting.

MM.