What woman isn't suspicious?
A friend can clue in any SO about anything in Monger world. This site, SA, escort sites.
Breaking Bad ruined burner phones for so many people.
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What woman isn't suspicious?
A friend can clue in any SO about anything in Monger world. This site, SA, escort sites.
Breaking Bad ruined burner phones for so many people.
[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2812946]What woman isn't suspicious?
A friend can clue in any SO about anything in Monger world. This site, SA, escort sites.
Breaking Bad ruined burner phones for so many people.[/QUOTE]Too late for most of us but why in the world get married? There is such a boatload of affordable pussy that unless accessibility dries up don't go there.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2812982]Too late for most of us but why in the world get married? There is such a boatload of affordable pussy that unless accessibility dries up don't go there.[/QUOTE]Buy Apple at $12 a share.
[QUOTE=Starkey2008;2811734]Was it RVABABY or baby_Claire? Both asked me for upfront for M&G. I said no but was considering.[/QUOTE]Yes it was Baby_cliare and also babyharmony, I made the attempt with baby cliare and cancelled it since sha said no chance of intimate meet. Babyharmony sent so many signals and was willing to go all the way after M&G, where I ended up payng her 100, and set up the next day, and she backed out at the last minute. We had some really sexy texts exchanged few times after the M&G so I was pretty confident she was ok with it. She did mention both her parents or well off, so was confused on she is getting on the site looking for someone. She has really hot body and has that young attractive features. I learned my lesson no more M&G's straight to the F* session.
I did have a close one with Cirque-des-reves, we had lunch and agreed to for the meet, did not pay except for the lunch, did never got to meet. I think I may have offended her by suggesting that I could do mentoring to her, big mistake. She was good to look at but not so stunning as you see on the profile picture, but would'nt mind doing her at least few times. Anyone has seen her!
Good hunting!
I am wondering if anyone else agree with me that we should try to include the profile names of the SA or other site chicks we have hit, miss or any other experience we had to share with others on this forum. So we may all benefit from each other, it is not like theses chicks are being loyal to us, at least the ones that I have dealt with. I am not saying this doesn't happen with some of you but at least we would be aware of the ones we can try to avoid or not put any effort in. I am sure the response form the SB's is different towards the potential SD's but the purpose of being on these sites for SB's and SD's is no different in my opinion. I know some of you are not willing to exchange your precious finds, hey some of us might.
What say you!
My Burner is an ATT. Cost $25 to purchase and I buy 1000 messages for $9. 99 a month. Voice is $0. 10 a minutes but I just use that to confirm with a new baby on the first date. Otherwise just like to text. I refill every few months with $25 and that's it!
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2812933]Yeah, hidden in plain sight only works as long as SO remains ignorant. The day she wakes up....
I dunno, I'm not there, one has to judge for them self. It appears as she is suspicious and snooping already. How long can that last before a "friend" clues her in?
As far as a burner goes? Huh? Can you hide $30/ month in expense? One can buy a decent, but smaller LG Leon LTE (Android 5. 1. 1), Bluetooth 4. 1 from MetroPCS for $30 and get a $30/ mo plan with 1 G 4 GLTE and unlimited 3 G. Stop in store each month & had over cash, or buy phone cards at Wally World. Other idea is use GV and hide all of that on there. Better, layer both.[/QUOTE]
Your solution sounds like a good one. I personally use a burner and create a new hotmail account linked to the burner number. I avoid gmail because Google is to smart for its own good.
My rationale is that if I bump into a crazy pot or SB, and something goes completely south, then having the complete separation will provide extra security.
At the end of the day, the Comcast accounts ate still linked to you. Of course from the perspective of protecting your info from 99% of pots and sbs, it sounds like a cost effective way of avoiding detection.
[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2812789]My SO watches my phone like a hawk and has been known to go through call, message and browser history (thank god for incognito mode).
Burner phone is an option, but one more expense to hide as well as the device itself.
Comcast Xfinity has a great solution -- assuming your SO does not know how to log on to the administrator account (mine has no clue it exists).
1) You can add many additional email addresses / usernames to your main account.
2) you can add additional phone numbers to the account and associate them to the email address / user name.
3) You can use that phone number for texting and calls without having a land line.
The Xfinity app on your phone allows you to log in with secure password (after each session, I log out and log back in using my personal email address so snooping SO thinks I was checking my personal email -- we have a rule, no getting email directly on phone to avoid work distractions).
You can check email, send texts using your Xfinity only phone number and even make calls over that phone number using your smart phone! Best of all, call I'd just shows up as the number you are calling from no name or other I'd info and googling the number is useless unless you post it some where public,.
YOu can access email and text from any pc as well by logging into your account on the Comcast site (there is probably a way to make and receive calls on your number using a Bluetooth headset, but not there yet).
Anyone see any flaws?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Graham111;2815292]My Burner is an ATT. Cost $25 to purchase and I buy 1000 messages for $9. 99 a month. Voice is $0. 10 a minutes but I just use that to confirm with a new baby on the first date. Otherwise just like to text. I refill every few months with $25 and that's it![/QUOTE]I use the TextFree, Pinger or TextNow apps. They are free and you get a new phone number. With TextNow, you lose the phone number if you do not use it for 1 week. With TextFree / Pinger you lose it the number in 30 days.
I normally do short term arrangements (2-3 weeks) with 1-2 SBs and then disappear for months. So, this works perfectly for me. New phone number for each SB.
[QUOTE=S2568;2814423]I am wondering if anyone else agree with me that we should try to include the profile names of the SA or other site chicks we have hit, miss or any other experience we had to share with others on this forum. So we may all benefit from each other, it is not like theses chicks are being loyal to us, at least the ones that I have dealt with. I am not saying this doesn't happen with some of you but at least we would be aware of the ones we can try to avoid or not put any effort in. I am sure the response form the SB's is different towards the potential SD's but the purpose of being on these sites for SB's and SD's is no different in my opinion. I know some of you are not willing to exchange your precious finds, hey some of us might.
What say you![/QUOTE]I'm always happy to have cross referencing. Since this is not (an escorting site I will not share my active SBs with the board until I move on. Frankly, I don't want my SB screwing other guys. But all others are fair game. You don't want SBs to match up your identity here where you are spilling the beans with your profile on SA or whatever. That will come back to bite you. Keep specific details different enough in your reports so that they will not recognize you.
[QUOTE=S2568;2814423]I am wondering if anyone else agree with me that we should try to include the profile names of the SA or other site chicks we have hit, miss or any other experience we had to share with others on this forum. So we may all benefit from each other, it is not like theses chicks are being loyal to us, at least the ones that I have dealt with. I am not saying this doesn't happen with some of you but at least we would be aware of the ones we can try to avoid or not put any effort in. I am sure the response form the SB's is different towards the potential SD's but the purpose of being on these sites for SB's and SD's is no different in my opinion. I know some of you are not willing to exchange your precious finds, hey some of us might.
What say you![/QUOTE]The other sb forum s have placed the direct link to the sb (Cincinnati was the first). For those that say they won't li nk their current sb that's fair but if their profile is still up while seeing you then your not exclusive LOL. Since this forum has contributions from all over the states it would definitely make it more interesting. Now for the guys juggling the 5 plus babies at a time it might be more time consuming to report.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2810415]I'm IN heaven BECAUSE I creamed an 18 yr old. Most energetic pussy I've ever had.
I cream pie them all.
SBs are an emotional risk, but escorts are a larger legal and healthcare risk. Besides, I no longer want to screw a girl who has done 8 other guys that day.[/QUOTE]Creamed an 18 year old early on (she turned 19 pretty early in our adventures).
Blowjob in broad daylight under a tree in a secluded spot in the park.
Impromptu blowjob in a movie theater. Premeditated (but short due to lack of privacy) sex in the back row of another movie.
Sex in broad daylight in a mall parking lot in the car during a snowstorm.
Yeah, the ride can be wild. There's plenty more where those came from.
But the emotional risks require discipline. Discipline that I apparently don't have, so I now have to sort out how deep I am emotionally against more pragmatic concerns. So beware. If you can stay detached while still enjoying the moments, that's a good skill to have. Though anyone who's followed the thread at all has seen that advice before.
[QUOTE=S2568;2814423]I am wondering if anyone else agree with me that we should try to include the profile names of the SA or other site chicks we have hit, miss or any other experience we had to share with others on this forum. So we may all benefit from each other, it is not like theses chicks are being loyal to us, at least the ones that I have dealt with. ... at least we would be aware of the ones we can try to avoid or not put any effort in. I am sure the response form the SB's is different towards the potential SD's but the purpose of being on these sites for SB's and SD's is no different in my opinion. I know some of you are not willing to exchange your precious finds, hey some of us might.
What say you![/QUOTE]I'm all in favor of this, and have advocated it before, as long as it is focused on identifying and sharing intel on the Bad Babies: scammers, rinsers, time-wasters, flakes and those infected with GPS. Personally I would hate to see this most excellent of threads degrade into an escort-swapping one, like the thousands of others on here. I'd like to believe the brothers here have a little more class than that. What gets done via PM is a different matter, however.
In my opinion, of course.
Peace,
Scott.
[QUOTE=S2568;2814328]Yes it was Baby_cliare and also babyharmony, I made the attempt with baby cliare and cancelled it since sha said no chance of intimate meet. Babyharmony sent so many signals and was willing to go all the way after M&G, where I ended up payng her 100, and set up the next day, and she backed out at the last minute. We had some really sexy texts exchanged few times after the M&G so I was pretty confident she was ok with it. She did mention both her parents or well off, so was confused on she is getting on the site looking for someone. She has really hot body and has that young attractive features. I learned my lesson no more M&G's straight to the F* session.
I did have a close one with Cirque-des-reves, we had lunch and agreed to for the meet, did not pay except for the lunch, did never got to meet. I think I may have offended her by suggesting that I could do mentoring to her, big mistake. She was good to look at but not so stunning as you see on the profile picture, but would'nt mind doing her at least few times. Anyone has seen her!
Good hunting![/QUOTE]Interesting. I also met with Cirque-des-reves and it seemed to go well. She seemed really into meeting again. But then she went dark. I'm guessing she might have gotten cold feet in general. Or maybe her scam is to just get a free lunch out of us. LOL. That pic, BTW is from high school. I know her actual identity and found her FB page. She is in a relationship with another girl who is also on SA, her name is A. In Wonderland. A. has a pic on her profile that also has Cirque in it.
Stark.
[QUOTE=NotBob2014;2811861]The advice on here was priceless. Don't pay for m&g. Ellabun tried that and I moved on. She stated everyone pays her for the m&g. To bad, she could have ended up with a SD who wants to stick with one SB, really helps her out, and one SB reduces my risk except it is easier to end up with no plans! I hold no judgement for you that have multiple SB, etc! I have a character flaw and to many would stress me out![/QUOTE]Bob. Ellabun also asked me to pay for the M&G. I said no and she said, OK, let's meet anyway. I'm meeting her this week. 'll let you know how it goes.
Starkey.
Hey Guys,
I've been trolling around the Richmond VA Sugar Bowl for about a year with good success. Plus, I'm pretty good at research, so I know a lot about some of the girls I have not met. Unlike F. Scott, I am more than willing to share info (that's his choice, which is cool, I just don't buy his logic for not doing it). If you have a question, hit me up, on the thread or PM. I won't share everything in public (I'm not trying to out anybody), but I will answer any question I can to the best of my ability. I sometimes go a week or more without logging in, so don't get freaked out if I don't respond right away.
Stay Safe,
Starkey.
I'm New the the whole SB scene but I've read this thread. Was hoping you guys could opine on my first interaction. I sent a few messages to some POT's and couple got back to me. One I was interested in a lot. So we get exchanging private picts and she messages me to text her. So I do and nothing. I wait a couple days and message her a hey I texted you and haven't heard back. Next day she texts and we go back and forth twice and silence. I figure no loss, I'm done. Next day she texts back When do you want to meet. We agree on lunch at a nicer place near her and everything seems ok. Day before she texts me a lovey tickler and before I can reply I get another text asking me sugar questions. Amounts? Times? Meets? Ect and a few picts. So I remember what I read here a few pages back and tell her I was planning on talking of this over our lunch in person and doing it by text makes me feel dirty. (haha) I say the sugar can depend on a number of factors. I did tell her my time expectations. She texts back ok. Now another text is Tomorrow transactional? I'm like this girl is a royal pain. So I text back No it's not transactional but I was going to give you a gift card. This is too much. I'm sorry for wasting your time. My name. So does a mini blow up of the phone but I ignore her. I think I did the right thing?
Correct action -- this one is a semi-pro -- wants $$ up front -- don't even reply to any messages -- block her -- run silent and deep.
Move on -- plenty more. Glad you learned lessons from the thread!!
GW.
P.S. Plus she is clearly running several guys at the same time -- and does not remember what she said from one to the other.
[QUOTE=Spider2112;2817305]I'm New the the whole SB scene but I've read this thread. Was hoping you guys could opine on my first interaction. I sent a few messages to some POT's and couple got back to me. One I was interested in a lot. So we get exchanging private picts and she messages me to text her. So I do and nothing. I wait a couple days and message her a hey I texted you and haven't heard back. Next day she texts and we go back and forth twice and silence. I figure no loss, I'm done. Next day she texts back When do you want to meet. We agree on lunch at a nicer place near her and everything seems ok. Day before she texts me a lovey tickler and before I can reply I get another text asking me sugar questions. Amounts? Times? Meets? Ect and a few picts. So I remember what I read here a few pages back and tell her I was planning on talking of this over our lunch in person and doing it by text makes me feel dirty. (haha) I say the sugar can depend on a number of factors. I did tell her my time expectations. She texts back ok. Now another text is Tomorrow transactional? I'm like this girl is a royal pain. So I text back No it's not transactional but I was going to give you a gift card. This is too much. I'm sorry for wasting your time. My name. So does a mini blow up of the phone but I ignore her. I think I did the right thing?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GuyWoodson;2817371]Correct action -- this one is a semi-pro -- wants $$ up front -- don't even reply to any messages -- block her -- run silent and deep.
Move on -- plenty more. Glad you learned lessons from the thread!!
GW.
P.S. Plus she is clearly running several guys at the same time -- and does not remember what she said from one to the other.[/QUOTE]I got that multiple guys vibe from the silences. I'll block her asap.
P.S. I didn't actually text her that haha that's for us. SP.
[QUOTE=Spider2112;2817305] I'm like this girl is a royal pain. So I text back No it's not transactional but I was going to give you a gift card. This is too much. I'm sorry for wasting your time. My name. So does a mini blow up of the phone but I ignore her. I think I did the right thing?[/QUOTE]Yeah, the fact that when things didn't go her way, she blew up on you! Just be glad she did that so you didn't have to experience a "blow up" in person or she didn't make a scene out in public.
When something like that happens to me, I just smile and laugh. AND move on glad to be rid of the drama!
Never second guess your instincts!
[QUOTE=Starkey2008;2816977]Interesting. I also met with Cirque-des-reves and it seemed to go well. She seemed really into meeting again. But then she went dark. I'm guessing she might have gotten cold feet in general. Or maybe her scam is to just get a free lunch out of us. LOL. That pic, BTW is from high school. I know her actual identity and found her FB page. She is in a relationship with another girl who is also on SA, her name is A. In Wonderland. A. has a pic on her profile that also has Cirque in it.
Stark.[/QUOTE]They both are nice to look, A in wonderland never responded to my messages, but how do you look up some ones FB page with out knowing their name?
I am in contact with a couple including a real hottie hopefully meet her for F* session will let you know how it goes. Also has a couple of AA's in touch one with an excellent tits and nice body, but spidey sense tells me she may be a professional, she sent me close up pics of her Pu $$why and tits, no face shots. I am not sure if I want to proceed. I am trying to weed out the professionals as much as I can sense before the meet.
Now there is one on the SA, strictly said no to me is Taste of Honey, spelled different, anyone have any luck with her? Damn she looks hot in that profile picture.
Send me PM if necessary please.
Happy hunting.
A few days ago, I discovered I could no longer use my right click on SA. This makes it very difficult to open multiple profiles without leaving my search results. It also makes it very inconvenient to search on images. Is anyone else having this problem?
Bam.
[QUOTE=S2568;2818411]They both are nice to look, A in wonderland never responded to my messages, but how do you look up some ones FB page with out knowing their name?
I am in contact with a couple including a real hottie hopefully meet her for F* session will let you know how it goes. Also has a couple of AA's in touch one with an excellent tits and nice body, but spidey sense tells me she may be a professional, she sent me close up pics of her Pu $$why and tits, no face shots. I am not sure if I want to proceed. I am trying to weed out the professionals as much as I can sense before the meet.
Now there is one on the SA, strictly said no to me is Taste of Honey, spelled different, anyone have any luck with her? Damn she looks hot in that profile picture.
Send me PM if necessary please.
Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Reverse search their photos (Google Images, etc.). That sometimes reveals their identity through one of their social media accounts. Then search the name. If she gives you a number or email to communicate with, search those. You'd be surprised how many babies use their actual regular numbers or emails. BTW - That's a good indication that they are not pros. Pros know how to use Google Voice and fake emails. Here are a couple of more tips... If you get a hit on a pic, a name and find her social media, take a look at her followers. "Birds of a feather flock together". Frequently, they have "friends" or "followers" who are also on SA. In Richmond, there are a lot of VCU girls on SA. Find one and you can find many. They suggest to their friends to try it out.
Stark.
[QUOTE=BamBam;2819454]A few days ago, I discovered I could no longer use my right click on SA. This makes it very difficult to open multiple profiles without leaving my search results. It also makes it very inconvenient to search on images. Is anyone else having this problem?
Bam.[/QUOTE]Bam. I noticed that today as well. It does make it harder to search photos. I have a tool that will grab photos and save them. But then I have to go to Google Image and upload them to search them. Much harder than just right clicking on "search this pic on Google". I guess it is safer for the girls.
Stark.
Way too may girls (and especially the non experienced ones you want) use their own phone #. Even if they have it not available to anybody on FB, a search in the FB search box with their phone number will "reverse find" them.
Also -- if they have their FB friends list closed off to the public. Fret not -- just look at whatever profile or other pictures are available and see who has "Liked" it. Guess what you get. A list of her best friends!! .
GB.
[QUOTE=Starkey2008;2819505]Reverse search their photos. That sometimes reveals their identity through one of their social media accounts. Then search the name. If she gives you a number or email to communicate with, search those. You'd be surprised how many use their actual regular numbers or emails. BTW. That's a good indication that they are not pros. Pros know how to use Google Voice and fake emails. Here is a couple of more tips. If you get a hit on a pic and a name and find her social media, take a look at her followers. "Birds of a feather flock together". Frequently, they have "friends" or "followers" who are also on SA. Also. In Richmond, there are a lot of VCU girls on SA. Find one and you can find many. Again. They suggest to their friends that they should try it out.
Stark.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GuyWoodson;2819523]Way too may girls (and especially the non experienced ones you want) use their own phone #. Even if they have it not available to anybody on FB, a search in the FB search box with their phone number will "reverse find" them.
Also -- if they have their FB friends list closed off to the public. Fret not -- just look at whatever profile or other pictures are available and see who has "Liked" it. Guess what you get. A list of her best friends!! .
GB.[/QUOTE]Guy. Exactly! If a baby gives me a number, the first thing I do is run it through FB, then Google. And I have definitely checked out their "likes" as well. All it takes is a little know how and a little time. Here's another one. Sometimes, the name they use on SA is not their real name but IS a "user" name they use on their other social media accounts, like Twitter or Instagram. I have run SA user names through Google and gotten hits. Sometimes, the really inexperienced ones actually use part or all of their name on SA, or initials. I like a good mystery and once you find one, you'll be surprised how the dominoes fall.
Stark.
[QUOTE=BamBam;2819454]A few days ago, I discovered I could no longer use my right click on SA. This makes it very difficult to open multiple profiles without leaving my search results. It also makes it very inconvenient to search on images. Is anyone else having this problem?
Bam.[/QUOTE]I opened a ticket and got the following response from their help desk:
"Hi XXXXXXXX,
In an effort to improve member privacy we have disabled right click on member photos. However you will still be able to use right click elsewhere on the site.
Regards,
Anna.
[URL]SeekingArrangement.com[/URL]
Customer Satisfaction Team".
If they are going to do that, they should at least make an announcement to warn SD's and get some mileage out of it from the SB's.
Bam.
Before you could restore deleted messages. No longer. Can't go back and see what I already know or recover a lost contact info provided. Damn.
I have found it very easy to find true identities via an email address. Even it is not their name in any way -- though it often is -- just googling the email address will lead to it being listed somewhere.
And sometimes just basic chatting -- girl works on Capitol Hill, know where she is from, know her allegedly real first name. Congressional staff directories are online, her state only had 2 senators and 2 MoC, so it took all of 5 minutes to find her.
Anothe recent college grad listed her alma mater and major in her profile. With just her first name and the school name, graduation date and major led me to LinkedIn.
Real name from an email leads to facebook, lots of photos etc.
One gal gave me her number and her first name and could not figure out how I learned her full name and other pertinents. When I called her, it went to voicemail and she gave her last name on her message!! Google led to LinkedIn to Facebook and I coudl verify she really was in Grad School and not some masquerading semi pro.
Way too easy, even for those who think they are being careful.
[QUOTE=Starkey2008;2819514]Bam. I noticed that today as well. It does make it harder to search photos. I have a tool that will grab photos and save them. But then I have to go to Google Image and upload them to search them. Much harder than just right clicking on "search this pic on Google". I guess it is safer for the girls.
Stark.[/QUOTE]I just noticed that too. Can you let me know what that tool is to grab the photo? You can PM me if it is confidential.
[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2819950]I have found it very easy to find true identities via an email address. Even it is not their name in any way -- though it often is -- just googling the email address will lead to it being listed somewhere.
And sometimes just basic chatting -- girl works on Capitol Hill, know where she is from, know her allegedly real first name. Congressional staff directories are online, her state only had 2 senators and 2 MoC, so it took all of 5 minutes to find her.
Anothe recent college grad listed her alma mater and major in her profile. With just her first name and the school name, graduation date and major led me to LinkedIn.
Real name from an email leads to facebook, lots of photos etc.
One gal gave me her number and her first name and could not figure out how I learned her full name and other pertinents. When I called her, it went to voicemail and she gave her last name on her message!! Google led to LinkedIn to Facebook and I coudl verify she really was in Grad School and not some masquerading semi pro.
Way too easy, even for those who think they are being careful.[/QUOTE]Great info. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2820084]Great info. Thanks.[/QUOTE]So while the prior posters have generously given an excellent, detailed "how to" of how to find the real identities of the girls. I'll add this:
Don't be an idiot and tell the girl what her last name is when she hasn't give it to you. Don't act like the "smartest cat in the room" by letting her "know" you know private info about her. Info she has not given you her self. While it might be personally satisfying, to show how smart you are to have found all of her info- how do you think that is going to make a SB feel? Bet a bunch of SBs are quietly creeped out and think you have stalker tendencies or "control issues. " So keep any info you find in your pocket. Smile and know she isn't a hardened pro and just a real regular girl doing some profitable dating. Nothing to be gained by telling her info you found.
Look this advice comes from experience. I played that game (I'm smarter than you) where I told a girl private info I found about her. The BP style girls could care less as their friends already knew what they were doing for a living. But the smarter girls and the SB types got freaked out. Had one end a date, just as it got going because she was scared I was a stalker or CL-killer type. Look, all of these girls hear the horror stories about internet dating. So when you do something odd, like showing you searched her private info it makes you look like a wacko, in their minds. That is what the SB told me, she was scared, and didn't continue. Shortly there after she closed up all of the "holes" that allowed me to find her info. I have danced around the issue enough with many girls to know the overall "concern" many have. If you want to know their last name, just ask. If you do that in a sweet, kind way, not an interrogation, you usually get an answer. After a trip to the FC, if things went well, you can just ask her to send you a link to her FB page.
HOWEVER, above all, [B] DO NOT TELL THE GIRL HER INFO IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE![/B] Look if you intend to marry the girl and want to protect her privacy, then yeah, help her close up these openings. But if she is just a one-off date or short-term (<6-mo. SB), then in the long run, you are F'in yourself by helping her close any breaches. Girls know other girls and don't think girls on SB sites don't email other girls and form friendships. There is often a whole under current network you'll never suspect. Remember women are innately more social than dudes! So being a White Knight and "telling" a girl about holes or ways to find her info can't help in the long run. Nothing in life stands still and as time goes by these girls are going to learn and close those ways for you to find them. So don't help the evolution along by being a "nice guy," otherwise soon enough you'll be back to flying blind again.
Hey, I'm just sayin'.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2820458]So while the prior posters have generously given an excellent, detailed "how to" of how to find the real identities of the girls. I'll add this:
DO NOT TELL THE GIRL HER INFO IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE! Be] So don't help the evolution along by being a "nice guy," otherwise soon enough you'll be back to flying blind again. ].
Excellent advice!
RE: Linked IN, are there any strategies-like a fake account -to probe their account? FB doesn't inform the holder of searches but Linked does.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2820458]So while the prior posters have generously given an excellent, detailed "how to" of how to find the real identities of the girls. I'll add this:
Don't be an idiot and tell the girl what her last name is when she hasn't give it to you. Don't act like the "smartest cat in the room" by letting her "know" you know private info about her. Info she has not given you her self. While it might be personally satisfying, to show how smart you are to have found all of her info- how do you think that is going to make a SB feel? Bet a bunch of SBs are quietly creeped out and think you have stalker tendencies or "control issues. " So keep any info you find in your pocket. Smile and know she isn't a hardened pro and just a real regular girl doing some profitable dating. Nothing to be gained by telling her info you found.
Look this advice comes from experience. I played that game (I'm smarter than you) where I told a girl private info I found about her. The BP style girls could care less as their friends already knew what they were doing for a living. But the smarter girls and the SB types got freaked out. Had one end a date, just as it got going because she was scared I was a stalker or CL-killer type. Look, all of these girls hear the horror stories about internet dating. So when you do something odd, like showing you searched her private info it makes you look like a wacko, in their minds. That is what the SB told me, she was scared, and didn't continue. Shortly there after she closed up all of the "holes" that allowed me to find her info. I have danced around the issue enough with many girls to know the overall "concern" many have. If you want to know their last name, just ask. If you do that in a sweet, kind way, not an interrogation, you usually get an answer. After a trip to the FC, if things went well, you can just ask her to send you a link to her FB page.
HOWEVER, above all, [B] DO NOT TELL THE GIRL HER INFO IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE![/B] Look if you intend to marry the girl and want to protect her privacy, then yeah, help her close up these openings. But if she is just a one-off date or short-term (<6-mo. SB), then in the long run, you are F'in yourself by helping her close any breaches. Girls know other girls and don't think girls on SB sites don't email other girls and form friendships. There is often a whole under current network you'll never suspect. Remember women are innately more social than dudes! So being a White Knight and "telling" a girl about holes or ways to find her info can't help in the long run. Nothing in life stands still and as time goes by these girls are going to learn and close those ways for you to find them. So don't help the evolution along by being a "nice guy," otherwise soon enough you'll be back to flying blind again.
Hey, I'm just sayin'.[/QUOTE]BRILLIANT advice!
[QUOTE=JoeBlowDC;2820611]BRILLIANT advice![/QUOTE]I agree. Great conversation without the attitude.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2820038]I just noticed that too. Can you let me know what that tool is to grab the photo? You can PM me if it is confidential.[/QUOTE]Mike. Some versions of Windows include a program called Snipping Tool. If you don't have it, just Google screen capture software. There are plenty of free options. The key is you need to save the pic as a Jpeg or photo format. Saving as HTML will not allow you to search on it in Google Images.
Stark.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2820458]So while the prior posters have generously given an excellent, detailed "how to" of how to find the real identities of the girls. I'll add this:
Don't be an idiot and tell the girl what her last name is when she hasn't give it to you. Don't act like the "smartest cat in the room" by letting her "know" you know private info about her. Info she has not given you her self. While it might be personally satisfying, to show how smart you are to have found all of her info- how do you think that is going to make a SB feel? Bet a bunch of SBs are quietly creeped out and think you have stalker tendencies or "control issues. " So keep any info you find in your pocket. Smile and know she isn't a hardened pro and just a real regular girl doing some profitable dating. Nothing to be gained by telling her info you found.
Look this advice comes from experience. I played that game (I'm smarter than you) where I told a girl private info I found about her. The BP style girls could care less as their friends already knew what they were doing for a living. But the smarter girls and the SB types got freaked out. Had one end a date, just as it got going because she was scared I was a stalker or CL-killer type. Look, all of these girls hear the horror stories about internet dating. So when you do something odd, like showing you searched her private info it makes you look like a wacko, in their minds. That is what the SB told me, she was scared, and didn't continue. Shortly there after she closed up all of the "holes" that allowed me to find her info. I have danced around the issue enough with many girls to know the overall "concern" many have. If you want to know their last name, just ask. If you do that in a sweet, kind way, not an interrogation, you usually get an answer. After a trip to the FC, if things went well, you can just ask her to send you a link to her FB page.
HOWEVER, above all, [B] DO NOT TELL THE GIRL HER INFO IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE![/B] Look if you intend to marry the girl and want to protect her privacy, then yeah, help her close up these openings. But if she is just a one-off date or short-term (<6-mo. SB), then in the long run, you are F'in yourself by helping her close any breaches. Girls know other girls and don't think girls on SB sites don't email other girls and form friendships. There is often a whole under current network you'll never suspect. Remember women are innately more social than dudes! So being a White Knight and "telling" a girl about holes or ways to find her info can't help in the long run. Nothing in life stands still and as time goes by these girls are going to learn and close those ways for you to find them. So don't help the evolution along by being a "nice guy," otherwise soon enough you'll be back to flying blind again.
Hey, I'm just sayin'.[/QUOTE]Ceph. I TOTALLY agree. But many of the discussions on here relate to negotiations with SBs, how to determine if an SB is worth spending time on, and or our own safety concerns. My motivation for obtaining info is to help address those issues. First. Is she a "pro" or "semi-Pro"? The answer to that can frequently save me a lot of wasted time and money. Second, I don't like walking into any unknown situation blind. I want to have as much info as I can available. Knowing who they are helps me decide whether to pursue or not pursue. Reading their Twitter or FB page can go a long ways towards me knowing what their current situation is, financially, emotionally, etc. We've all had M&G's with SB's that are nut jobs. Sometimes I can see that coming and walk the other way. And frankly, seeing multiple pictures helps me make the decision about who to contact or not, and influences how much I am willing to spend. Sometimes they look AMAZING in their profile pics and less so in person. I recently posted about finding out that a local SB was using a picture from H. S. that was a couple of years old. Seeing those pics gives me a clear view of the "real" person. But I absolutely agree with the "White Knight" comments you made. It would eventually backfire. And I would also never advocate using info to manipulate an SB. I think that's f**ked up. However, I will say this, knowing who she is DOES protect me. Because if I ever walked into a situation where an SB tried to scam me or blackmail me (thinking I had no idea who she is), she would be in for HUGE surprise. "Hello, Mrs. Smith... ".
Stay Safe,
Starkey.
[QUOTE=Starkey2008;2820874]Ceph. I TOTALLY agree. But many of the discussions on here relate to negotiations with SBs, how to determine if an SB is worth spending time on, and or our own safety concerns. My motivation for obtaining info is to help address those issues. First. Is she a "pro" or "semi-Pro"? The answer to that can frequently save me a lot of wasted time and money. Second, I don't like walking into any unknown situation blind. I want to have as much info as I can available. Knowing who they are helps me decide whether to pursue or not pursue. Reading their Twitter or FB page can go a long ways towards me knowing what their current situation is, financially, emotionally, etc. We've all had M&G's with SB's that are nut jobs. Sometimes I can see that coming and walk the other way. And frankly, seeing multiple pictures helps me make the decision about who to contact or not, and influences how much I am willing to spend. Sometimes they look AMAZING in their profile pics and less so in person. I recently posted about finding out that a local SB was using a picture from H. S. that was a couple of years old. Seeing those pics gives me a clear view of the "real" person. But I absolutely agree with the "White Knight" comments you made. It would eventually backfire. And I would also never advocate using info to manipulate an SB. I think that's f**ked up. However, I will say this, knowing who she is DOES protect me. Because if I ever walked into a situation where an SB tried to scam me or blackmail me (thinking I had no idea who she is), she would be in for HUGE surprise. "Hello, Mrs. Smith... ".
Stay Safe,
Starkey.[/QUOTE]LOL guys never cease to amaze me. This is a fairly simple hobby that guys who have to much time on their hands turn into cloak and dagger episodes.
After 3 or 4 text if you can't tell if she is pro or utr then you have problems. After the M / G all doubts should be removed.
Most mongers are only going to see a sb a couple of times before they find a reason to move on anyway so lets not turn this into a CIA operation. If you see one long enough she will tell you anything you want to know.
Now imagine at your first M\G that she showed how smart she was and laid out all your info and showed you what you made per year and asked why you was low balling her. I think you would call her a Stalker, crazy obsessive and probably seeking police protection.
Most true sb here are seeking help in some form and feel no need to create the false identity, email, bag of burner phones that make us mongers feel superior and safer. I operate on the KISS theory which works fine for me. Just my opinion.
[QUOTE=CephlapodLove;2820458]So while the prior posters have generously given an excellent, detailed "how to" of how to find the real identities of the girls. I'll add this:
Don't be an idiot and tell the girl what her last name is when she hasn't give it to you. Don't act like the "smartest cat in the room" by letting her "know" you know private info about her. Info she has not given you her self. While it might be personally satisfying, to show how smart you are to have found all of her info- how do you think that is going to make a SB feel? Bet a bunch of SBs are quietly creeped out and think you have stalker tendencies or "control issues. " So keep any info you find in your pocket. Smile and know she isn't a hardened pro and just a real regular girl doing some profitable dating. Nothing to be gained by telling her info you found.
Look this advice comes from experience. I played that game (I'm smarter than you) where I told a girl private info I found about her. The BP style girls could care less as their friends already knew what they were doing for a living. But the smarter girls and the SB types got freaked out. Had one end a date, just as it got going because she was scared I was a stalker or CL-killer type. Look, all of these girls hear the horror stories about internet dating. So when you do something odd, like showing you searched her private info it makes you look like a wacko, in their minds. That is what the SB told me, she was scared, and didn't continue. Shortly there after she closed up all of the "holes" that allowed me to find her info. I have danced around the issue enough with many girls to know the overall "concern" many have. If you want to know their last name, just ask. If you do that in a sweet, kind way, not an interrogation, you usually get an answer. After a trip to the FC, if things went well, you can just ask her to send you a link to her FB page.
HOWEVER, above all, [B] DO NOT TELL THE GIRL HER INFO IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE![/B] Look if you intend to marry the girl and want to protect her privacy, then yeah, help her close up these openings. But if she is just a one-off date or short-term (<6-mo. SB), then in the long run, you are F'in yourself by helping her close any breaches. Girls know other girls and don't think girls on SB sites don't email other girls and form friendships. There is often a whole under current network you'll never suspect. Remember women are innately more social than dudes! So being a White Knight and "telling" a girl about holes or ways to find her info can't help in the long run. Nothing in life stands still and as time goes by these girls are going to learn and close those ways for you to find them. So don't help the evolution along by being a "nice guy," otherwise soon enough you'll be back to flying blind again.
Hey, I'm just sayin'.[/QUOTE]Well said.
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[QUOTE=Mike7794;2820038]I just noticed that too. Can you let me know what that tool is to grab the photo? You can PM me if it is confidential.[/QUOTE]You don't need a separate tool. I've discovered that you can drag the picture into a Google images search box directly from the web page. It won't work if you enlarge the picture first, only if you drag it from the profile page. It's particularly easy if you have a dual-monitor setup.