Strip Club Reports

I don't get to enjoy the clubs as much as I would like, but wanted to report on a stop over at SC today. Got there around 2:30 pm and surprised by the number of customers (guessing 15) and the performers (maybe 10). Have to say guys, I had a great time. Enjoyed the dancers for a bit, thought Ashley the skinny little waitress was a doll, and the talent overall was better than I expected based upon reviews. Some solid 6/7's and a couple of 8+ in my book. Liked the way Natalie (thin, nice B's and in my opinion a really nice ass.) moved on stage, tipped her and she kindly stopped by. Had good conversation, talked through what we could get to in VIP, and went back for some hand play and a pretty good CBJ. With beer, $10 to VIP "fee" must have been 5-6 dances and the fun stuff. Out for $$. I know some will think I overpaid, but to me, the juice was worth the squeeze. It was a very relaxing experience. And that's worth something. Take care out there guys.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;4237941]I had a very negative experience at South tonight and I'm still pissed off as I write this.

The backstory: There's a girl that I've gone back with a number of times and the rate is always the same. It's my max out price and if a girl wanted more than that, I'd turn her down instantly. There's no way in hell I'd go into back in one of those clubs for $200.

So, we've never had a problem in the past but tonight was a different story. We do our thing and I give her the money, just as I always do. She counts it and says "There's only $120 here'. I said, "Yeah, it's the same price I always give you" and she said that I always gave her $200. At this point, we go back and forth about it. It's my max out price and I don't go back for more than that. I wouldn't. She said "Well, I need $200" and I told her that wasn't going to happen. At this point, she tells me that she's going to have to tell the bouncer and I told her "Tell him". We left the VIP and she went to the bathroom, as I did I. I took a piss and left.

Now, I have no idea what she was thinking. She mentioned that this was going to be her last night there but from the look on her face, I didn't get the impression that she was trying to scam me. She didn't seen drink or high, so I'm thinking that she must have confused me with another regular or who knows what.

I've been going to these clubs for a very long time and in that time, I've probably seen 150 girls or more. I've never screwed a girl over on price - never have, never will. I'm known, I'm honest and I'm certainly not a scammer. This is a situation that I've never encountered before. No girl has ever accused me of shorting her on price and without a doubt, any girl that I've ever gone back with would vouch for me on that.

The bad thing about all of this is that I genuinely liked this girl and enjoyed talking to her, aside from the fact that she's an excellent performer. Now, I'll never go back with her again and our previous conversation about future OTC isn't going to happen either. Maybe you could call this post a word to the wise or something and more than anything, I guess I'm just venting. My apologies in advance for any redundancy, spelling or grammatical errors.[/QUOTE]I1,

Don't worry about it. That same thing has happened to all of us.

Good performers turn bad over time. It is part of the natural cycle. Whether honest mistake or intentional hustle, it doesn't matter.

Be happy for all the fun times you had with her. Understand they are over now, and move onto the next one. It isn't like she is only girl in Michigan.

Every time you start with a new girl, no matter how much you two genuinely seem to get along and like each other. Know eventually it will end like this. Maybe not as dramatic, but I have seen fun girl after fun girl slowly change and become less fun such that I don't want to session with them anymore. Sometimes it happens in a matter of days, occasionally it take years to happen. But most peelers it seems to take about 6 months before they reach that point.

For peelers they either drop out of the game, or their service declines as they see you as no more than a pile of cash to collect.

MM.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;4237941]I had a very negative experience at South tonight and I'm still pissed off as I write this.

The backstory: There's a girl that I've gone back with a number of times and the rate is always the same. It's my max out price and if a girl wanted more than that, I'd turn her down instantly. There's no way in hell I'd go into back in one of those clubs for $200.

So, we've never had a problem in the past but tonight was a different story. We do our thing and I give her the money, just as I always do. She counts it and says "There's only $120 here'. I said, "Yeah, it's the same price I always give you" and she said that I always gave her $200. At this point, we go back and forth about it. It's my max out price and I don't go back for more than that. I wouldn't. She said "Well, I need $200" and I told her that wasn't going to happen. At this point, she tells me that she's going to have to tell the bouncer and I told her "Tell him". We left the VIP and she went to the bathroom, as I did I. I took a piss and left.

Now, I have no idea what she was thinking. She mentioned that this was going to be her last night there but from the look on her face, I didn't get the impression that she was trying to scam me. She didn't seen drink or high, so I'm thinking that she must have confused me with another regular or who knows what.

I've been going to these clubs for a very long time and in that time, I've probably seen 150 girls or more. I've never screwed a girl over on price - never have, never will. I'm known, I'm honest and I'm certainly not a scammer. This is a situation that I've never encountered before. No girl has ever accused me of shorting her on price and without a doubt, any girl that I've ever gone back with would vouch for me on that.

The bad thing about all of this is that I genuinely liked this girl and enjoyed talking to her, aside from the fact that she's an excellent performer. Now, I'll never go back with her again and our previous conversation about future OTC isn't going to happen either. Maybe you could call this post a word to the wise or something and more than anything, I guess I'm just venting. My apologies in advance for any redundancy, spelling or grammatical errors.[/QUOTE]A name and the description of this dancer would help us to avoid. These girls do move around in clubs, so sooner or later they usually resurface. My last few visits to Bogarts at night have been unproductive, GPS seems a common problem and I don't see VIP traffic being that busy either.

[QUOTE=Firemanoh;4215231]Finally was able to see the elusive Alice today. Ridiculously smoky and hot bod. Went upstairs, tried to have a little fun, to no avail. Stuck around for the start of night shift. Not sure who said Athena had GPS. But, I was able to get the deal done for $. 4. She has a fantastic body, and is a lot of fun![/QUOTE]Hit up Bogarts the other night. IMO, there were two peelers (Athena and Jade) that were worth going upstairs with and a bunch that I would have paid to leave me alone. Of course Cee Cee (sp?) comes over and latches on, had to walk away to get rid of her. Eventually Athena came over. I was tired and didn't waste any time taking her upstairs. I fully concur with Fire's report, she has a fantastic body. She told me she wanted all my money so I gave her everything in my right pocket ($145) and she did a decent CBJ before switching to CFS. I protested a little when she went for the cover for BJ but she responded that she would never suck a random dick "My health is my wealth. " Thought about going into the left pocket but decided I would accept the CBJ.

So the question is, will she do BBBJ when she has seen you a few times or for more $?

Stopped by BTs earlier this week and it was a typical visit. Ended the night with some VIP fun with a girl who I hadn't seen before and all went well. Following our session I hit the head then went to the bar to drop by drink and leave. A bouncer approaches me at the bar and inquired what I paid the girl I just went to the VIP with. I played dumb and acted confused by the question. He quickly replied, "I need to know for work reasons". I said "sorry, I don't remember" and bolted. Other experience this?

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;4237941]I had a very negative experience at South tonight and I'm still pissed off as I write this.[/QUOTE]Hey cog, I've followed your posts for years. I've never taken exception to your reports, but Dude, if this was a "very negative experience", you've lived a sheltered life! You got your dick wet at your price, you didn't get assaulted, robbed, arrested, infected or had your car towed.

A better way to handle it might be to say "sorry, $120 is all I have". Who knows why these sluts do what they do? They're junkies, the drugs have taken over. The bouncers know which bitches are problems. If you tip and never create drama, they'll side with you over a junkie who always has issues with people. And besides, who cares? What can the bouncer do besides kick you out? He's NOT going to call the cops. He could bar you for life, but if he did I'd show up the next day!

[QUOTE=Dpmct;4238523]Stopped by BTs earlier this week and it was a typical visit. Ended the night with some VIP fun with a girl who I hadn't seen before and all went well. Following our session I hit the head then went to the bar to drop by drink and leave. A bouncer approaches me at the bar and inquired what I paid the girl I just went to the VIP with. I played dumb and acted confused by the question. He quickly replied, "I need to know for work reasons". I said "sorry, I don't remember" and bolted. Other experience this?[/QUOTE]BTs bouncers are notorious for doing such acts. They try to intimidate and try to get more out of you after the deed. I had a similar experience last year and from that day I have never set foot in BTs. Bouncers have no business asking for how much you paid. This is so wrong and I don't understand how the club owner is ok with this behavior or maybe he is the main perpetrator of this behavior.

[QUOTE=JadooMazar;4238712]BTs bouncers are notorious for doing such acts. They try to intimidate and try to get more out of you after the deed. I had a similar experience last year and from that day I have never set foot in BTs. Bouncers have no business asking for how much you paid. This is so wrong and I don't understand how the club owner is ok with this behavior or maybe he is the main perpetrator of this behavior.[/QUOTE]I was at BTs on Thursday and every dancer quoted me the exact same rate.they were all to expensive.

Anyone to meet at Subi's tonight around 11 pm? Or before. Can't be out too late. A7 D.

White tie guy and vest. A7 Daze.

Was at BT's today and went back and had a dance with one of the performers. Afterward she was telling me police were in BT's on Wednesday. She wouldn't elaborate on it much unfortunately. Got me a bit nervous. Was wondering if anyone knows what kind of risk we have as patrons. Do police perform raids or stings at clubs? Or can they collect evidence after the fact, eg, from cameras? Or are you pretty much only at risk if you get caught with your pants down LOL.

[QUOTE=Jenghidkhan;4239131]Was at BT's today and went back and had a dance with one of the performers. Afterward she was telling me police were in BT's on Wednesday. She wouldn't elaborate on it much unfortunately. Got me a bit nervous. Was wondering if anyone knows what kind of risk we have as patrons. Do police perform raids or stings at clubs? Or can they collect evidence after the fact, eg, from cameras? Or are you pretty much only at risk if you get caught with your pants down LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't know any details and this is 100% speculation. But maybe this police post and the earlier post with the bouncer asking the patron how much he paid was because of a stripper dispute. They steal from each other all the time and sometimes the cops are called.

Arrived round little after 11 pm. Packed as ususal. Never approached. Kept my eye on a lass named Alexa, Mexican w / attitude, killer body, tits very suckable. That's what I wanted the most with good grinding. Didn't happen when she came and sat with me. Bought her a drink. $14 all liquor drinks big or small. No big deal. In convo I gave her compliments and what have you, started negotiations, couldn't agree on just a blow job and early grinding, told her her tits were amazing and needed attention. She wouldn't take no song count for $140. I might of been in up front VIP booths maybe 4 songs. DAMN. She had an attitude, she was all wound up reserved. She said 2 songs< I said no can do. She was up for rotation on stage on two songs so I ordered a drink, went out to have a smoke, came back, told her to come back. Waited for drink and waited some more and that's when I said fuck it and bailed on her and the drink. Oh wee, they were so busy and the # of dancers it was almost impossible to even get in. The VIP's. The song rotation fucked it all up. Seem like only certain dancers were in the rotation. That's all I got. Won't go back. Giving a shout out to the young dobbies sitting by me from Kalamazoo. I was there maybe a little over an hr and a half. Peace. A7 D.

[QUOTE=Jenghidkhan;4239131]Was at BT's today and went back and had a dance with one of the performers. Afterward she was telling me police were in BT's on Wednesday. She wouldn't elaborate on it much unfortunately. Got me a bit nervous. Was wondering if anyone knows what kind of risk we have as patrons. Do police perform raids or stings at clubs? Or can they collect evidence after the fact, eg, from cameras? Or are you pretty much only at risk if you get caught with your pants down LOL.[/QUOTE]Anything can happen. If you want "good" legal advice the best thing to do would be spend 200 or 300 and talk to an attorney. Free legal advice from guys on the internet who haven't passed the bar might not be the best. PM me if you want my attorneys number.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;4237941]I had a very negative experience at South tonight and I'm still pissed off as I write this.

We do our thing and I give her the money, just as I always do. She counts it and says "There's only $120 here'. [/QUOTE]I've been caught off guard like this, too. When I replay the events back in mind later, I think this happens with my favs in what could now be called the "early" stages of our interactions, they never really counted the money I would give them. They see a few layers of $20's and feel they're getting what they should. Then one day they "mature" and count the money after the session is over and look like at you like you shorted their expectations. And it really comes into play if they are having a bad money day / night.

[QUOTE=Jenghidkhan;4239131]Was at BT's today and went back and had a dance with one of the performers. Afterward she was telling me police were in BT's on Wednesday. She wouldn't elaborate on it much unfortunately. Got me a bit nervous. Was wondering if anyone knows what kind of risk we have as patrons. Do police perform raids or stings at clubs? Or can they collect evidence after the fact, eg, from cameras? Or are you pretty much only at risk if you get caught with your pants down LOL.[/QUOTE]Anything is possible these days but the after the fact thing is a lot of resources for something that would be hard to prove. They would have to have audio of negotiations then go on a manhunt for you afterwards LOL.

[QUOTE=GuyDetroit;4241045]Anything is possible these days but the after the fact thing is a lot of resources for something that would be hard to prove. [b]They would have to have audio of negotiations then go on a manhunt for you afterwards[/b] LOL.[/QUOTE]LE seemed to find Robert Kraft and the other men charged in the AMP case fairly easy.

[QUOTE=Jenghidkhan;4239131]Was at BT's today and went back and had a dance with one of the performers. Afterward she was telling me police were in BT's on Wednesday. She wouldn't elaborate on it much unfortunately. Got me a bit nervous. Was wondering if anyone knows what kind of risk we have as patrons. Do police perform raids or stings at clubs? Or can they collect evidence after the fact, eg, from cameras? Or are you pretty much only at risk if you get caught with your pants down LOL.[/QUOTE]Odds are another girl OD at the club and they had to call 911.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;4241102]LE seemed to find Robert Kraft and the other men charged in the AMP case fairly easy.[/QUOTE]Do AMPs have loud music? If you negotiate in the back it would be easier to get audio. I'm just saying it is very unlikely but possible.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;4241107]Odds are another girl OD at the club and they had to call 911.[/QUOTE]Its not always the dancers.

A couple weeks ago a Toledo club had a gentleman have a heart attack and died on the couches. What a way to go.

Cops came in took reports and looked at video.

Hey anyone know what the hours are on Easter.

Happy Easter.

[QUOTE=Checkers123;4241102]LE seemed to find Robert Kraft and the other men charged in the AMP case fairly easy.[/QUOTE]They probably recognized he was well to do with his driver bringing him there. They may cut a deal for a lessor charge or out of spite tried to screw everyone they can.

It is known fact that certain unscrupulous business people keep a black book to include powerful people like politicians, police, actors etc in order for the police not to make the record public.

My guess is the cops saw the video and recognized Kraft, maybe he should of wore sunglasses and a baseball cap.

[QUOTE=Jenghidkhan;4239131]Was at BT's today and went back and had a dance with one of the performers. Afterward she was telling me police were in BT's on Wednesday. She wouldn't elaborate on it much unfortunately. Got me a bit nervous. Was wondering if anyone knows what kind of risk we have as patrons. Do police perform raids or stings at clubs? Or can they collect evidence after the fact, eg, from cameras? Or are you pretty much only at risk if you get caught with your pants down LOL.[/QUOTE]Once the police were at BTs because they were looking for a specific person.

I just wanted to say thanks to those of you who responded, in regard to my negative experience at South post. I do appreciate the support and positive feedback.

For some reason, it took me off guard and I guess I took it a bit personal after being accused by a girl of trying to short her, because I'm not that kind of guy. Additionally, if you short a girl or skip out on paying her altogether, I'm sure that word gets around very fast. The worst part of it all, in retrospect, was that she tried to blackmail me into giving her more money or she was going to have to "tell the bouncer".

Even though we all know what we're there for, I'd like to think that my integrity remains intact. Yes, I've been lucky that nothing horrible has happened to me and maybe I've been a bit sheltered or naive but still, for some idiotic reason, I thought that a repeat and somewhat regular business agreement would be above drama like this happening. If there is any consolation that I can get from this, it's that by pulling this stunt, she's deprived herself of a clean and courteous source of income. Overall, I'm trying not to be jaded by this experience but it's certainly going to make me a bit more cautious when I'm making arrangements. Even with regular girls. Still, I think most of them will understand that.

She is early 30's, AA, dyed red hair, large B-cup tits, nice booty, and a 7. 25 appearance rating. Lavish dances day shift here. Damage was 130 for a half & half session. The first half was uncovered. I would repeat.

[QUOTE=JadooMazar;4238712]BTs bouncers are notorious for doing such acts. They try to intimidate and try to get more out of you after the deed. I had a similar experience last year and from that day I have never set foot in BTs. Bouncers have no business asking for how much you paid. This is so wrong and I don't understand how the club owner is ok with this behavior or maybe he is the main perpetrator of this behavior.[/QUOTE]Of all the clubs in Detroit I've been to over 15 years, I've had a bunch of issues at BT's. Problems with dancers upselling, wanting to be paid upfront, claiming they should get more. All the women could be 10's and I still wouldn't set foot in the place.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;4241797]I just wanted to say thanks to those of you who responded, in regard to my negative experience at South post. I do appreciate the support and positive feedback.

For some reason, it took me off guard and I guess I took it a bit personal after being accused by a girl of trying to short her, because I'm not that kind of guy. Additionally, if you short a girl or skip out on paying her altogether, I'm sure that word gets around very fast. The worst part of it all, in retrospect, was that she tried to blackmail me into giving her more money or she was going to have to "tell the bouncer".

Even though we all know what we're there for, I'd like to think that my integrity remains intact. Yes, I've been lucky that nothing horrible has happened to me and maybe I've been a bit sheltered or naive but still, for some idiotic reason, I thought that a repeat and somewhat regular business agreement would be above drama like this happening. If there is any consolation that I can get from this, it's that by pulling this stunt, she's deprived herself of a clean and courteous source of income. Overall, I'm trying not to be jaded by this experience but it's certainly going to make me a bit more cautious when I'm making arrangements. Even with regular girls. Still, I think most of them will understand that.[/QUOTE]This happens alot. Time to move on.

Was it the black girl who dances at night with the huge ass.

She tried to pull this on me before and I haven't done anything with her sense.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;4237941]I had a very negative experience at South tonight and I'm still pissed off as I write this.

The backstory: There's a girl that I've gone back with a number of times and the rate is always the same. It's my max out price and if a girl wanted more than that, I'd turn her down instantly. There's no way in hell I'd go into back in one of those clubs for $200.

So, we've never had a problem in the past but tonight was a different story. We do our thing and I give her the money, just as I always do. She counts it and says "There's only $120 here'. I said, "Yeah, it's the same price I always give you" and she said that I always gave her $200. At this point, we go back and forth about it. It's my max out price and I don't go back for more than that. I wouldn't. She said "Well, I need $200" and I told her that wasn't going to happen. At this point, she tells me that she's going to have to tell the bouncer and I told her "Tell him". We left the VIP and she went to the bathroom, as I did I. I took a piss and left.

Now, I have no idea what she was thinking. She mentioned that this was going to be her last night there but from the look on her face, I didn't get the impression that she was trying to scam me. She didn't seen drink or high, so I'm thinking that she must have confused me with another regular or who knows what.

I've been going to these clubs for a very long time and in that time, I've probably seen 150 girls or more. I've never screwed a girl over on price - never have, never will. I'm known, I'm honest and I'm certainly not a scammer. This is a situation that I've never encountered before. No girl has ever accused me of shorting her on price and without a doubt, any girl that I've ever gone back with would vouch for me on that.

The bad thing about all of this is that I genuinely liked this girl and enjoyed talking to her, aside from the fact that she's an excellent performer. Now, I'll never go back with her again and our previous conversation about future OTC isn't going to happen either. Maybe you could call this post a word to the wise or something and more than anything, I guess I'm just venting. My apologies in advance for any redundancy, spelling or grammatical errors.[/QUOTE]

Any of you guys remember Atlantis? I think it was in Melvindale. Totally nude place and no booze. Is it still around?

I think Atlantis was on Dix Hwy next to the Lamplighter Motel in Lincoln Park. Later it was the Bada Bing and Club Insomnia. It may be just an empty building now.

[QUOTE=Chuka;4246658]I think Atlantis was on Dix Hwy next to the Lamplighter Motel in Lincoln Park. Later it was the Bada Bing and Club Insomnia. It may be just an empty building now.[/QUOTE]That was at Dix and Outer Drive. Lincoln Park or Melvindale. Been vacant for years now. Probably buy it cheap. Not much going on there LOL.

[QUOTE=Chuka;4246658]I think Atlantis was on Dix Hwy next to the Lamplighter Motel in Lincoln Park. Later it was the Bada Bing and Club Insomnia. It may be just an empty building now.[/QUOTE]Is this the place that some dancers would do OTC right next door at the motel?

[QUOTE=CkNice11;4244935]Was it the black girl who dances at night with the huge ass.

She tried to pull this on me before and I haven't done anything with her sense.[/QUOTE]No. I know who you're talking about and I think she goes by Odyssey. I've never been back with her because she's because she's a whole lot of woman and just not my type.

[QUOTE=MojoFallin;4247148]Is this the place that some dancers would do OTC right next door at the motel?[/QUOTE]I don't remember that. Or, I was too young and naive to get anything! But there was one dancer there, I'll never forget, her name was Kira. Absolutely stunning girl.

[QUOTE=MojoFallin;4247148]Is this the place that some dancers would do OTC right next door at the motel?[/QUOTE]I remember Atlantis quite well and went there a number of times in my younger days. It was on Dix and later did become Bada Bing. I understand that a big reason that Bada Bing closed down was because there was an issue where I couple of guys put a drill through another guys hand. It would have been interesting to hear the backstory on that situation.

[QUOTE=RollingStoner;4244885]This happens alot. Time to move on.[/QUOTE]I didn't realize that this happened so frequently. I've had situations to where girls have talked a good game and then didn't live up to what they promised or surprised me, after agreeing to a no song count and then, after 3 songs saying "time is up". Still, aside from those situations, I've never previously been accused of shorting a girl before.

Agreed. Time to move on and no matter what, my money is still green and there's plenty of other girls who are quite willing to get it.

[QUOTE=OhioRacer;4241164]Its not always the dancers.

A couple weeks ago a Toledo club had a gentleman have a heart attack and died on the couches. What a way to go.

Cops came in took reports and looked at video.[/QUOTE]That was also a story at the old Leggs Lounge in Yipsi. Served as the background story as to why the "downstairs" VIP was closed (it wasn't AFAIK) and where the pasties and granny panties came from.

Went yesterday afternoon, shortly after I sat down a girl I haven't seen before walks up and starts chatting. She is short, young, dark complexion. A mix of some type but not sure what exactly. Nice body maybe a little flab. She said it was her first day there after previously working at BT's. Had a good time with her in VIP. Had a no rush BBBJ, dt, cfs, cimws, damage was 120, and I will repeat with her. Didn't catch / remember her name, anyone know who I am talking about?

Haven't been in the strip club scene in a long time. Itching to go back. Conflicting reports on here of several locations. So my question is where is the most reasonable, hassle free, decent looking girl, good dance menu place to go. Seems as though it's is good?

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;4247444]I remember Atlantis quite well and went there a number of times in my younger days. It was on Dix and later did become Bada Bing. I understand that a big reason that Bada Bing closed down was because there was an issue where I couple of guys put a drill through another guys hand. It would have been interesting to hear the backstory on that situation.[/QUOTE]Atlantis had wet panties contests for a little while, until they ended up warping the stage. The fuzzy backstory I heard was they were torturing a guy in the basement over money. I don't remember girls from Atlantis going to the motel, but there was a couple of girls who worked from the bar across the street.

[QUOTE=Incognito1234;4247444]I remember Atlantis quite well and went there a number of times in my younger days. It was on Dix and later did become Bada Bing. I understand that a big reason that Bada Bing closed down was because there was an issue where I couple of guys put a drill through another guys hand. It would have been interesting to hear the backstory on that situation.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a fun place LOL.