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Girls picking up stalkers is an unfortunate danger in this business. Some girls have dealt with multiple stalkers over the years. I'm not sure putting an alleged stalker on blast is going to help or change anything in a positive direction. These types feed on getting negative emotional reactions from their victims and aren't exactly playing with a full deck.
[QUOTE=HolyStone1975;6082065]Talk to Parker about that. The topic of the stalker has come up between them and was a point of argument in the past with them.
Just guessing here but Destiny is not very picky with her clients since she advertises on every escort site, including EB, as well as being a vixen. I would bet she tends to less of a target for stuff like this than someone like Parker. Look around the boards and you never really see anyone talk about Destiny telling them no about an appointment while guys are literally lined up waiting to get on Parker's list when she does take new clients. Anyone sho has seen Parker knows she is, probably, the best provider in the city and guys like the stalker are going out of their way to make her life miserable in hopes that she finally relents and just lets him in the door again. Guys like that are dangerous to the girls because they will do anything to get in the room and once they do, they are even more dangerous.
BTW, I suspect that the stalker mentioned by Parker on Snapchat has another account on here, one he has had for a while. Just looking at posts by this person, he can't hide his stalker tendencies. It's just who he is.[/QUOTE]The clear major difference is Parker has been around for at least 7 YEARS! Destiny has maybe been in the business for 1 year!! So of course it makes sense that she is posted everywhere she's new! Many like new things, comparing at the time put in would be odd. But I saw destiny's snap and she doesn't see this Frank guy and she also blasted him for trying to Get to her too. There's always more to the stories but this guy seems insane.
[QUOTE=ManONMoon;6082168]The clear major difference is Parker has been around for at least 7 YEARS! Destiny has maybe been in the business for 1 year!! So of course it makes sense that she is posted everywhere she's new! Many like new things, comparing at the time put in would be odd. But I saw destiny's snap and she doesn't see this Frank guy and she also blasted him for trying to Get to her too. There's always more to the stories but this guy seems insane.[/QUOTE]The only other girl in the Vixens I am aware of posting on any other spot is Ziana who had a Tryst account before joining the Vixens. I don't think Parker every posted on any escort website. Sasha never has. There is a difference between wanting to stay low profile but still be escorting and what Destiny is doing. I don't blame her, I am just saying that posting on all those other sites is going to draw a wider range of clients than how Parker operates.
[QUOTE=Jannisary;6082084]Girls picking up stalkers is an unfortunate danger in this business. Some girls have dealt with multiple stalkers over the years. I'm not sure putting an alleged stalker on blast is going to help or change anything in a positive direction. These types feed on getting negative emotional reactions from their victims and aren't exactly playing with a full deck.[/QUOTE]She has, apparently, been dealing with this for a LONG time and finally reached a breaking point. I don't have a problem with it since this guy has been going out of his way for years to make her life miserable. She has moved around a few times trying to get away from him and it never works because he is relentless. Since she can't really go to the police, and he knows that, this was her way of finally trying to deal with it. I can't blame her when every other option, outside even more drastic ones, have failed. Rumor is he keeps trying to use other girls offering 4 hands to try and get in to the room with Parker. I would guess that is one of the reasons she only offers 4 hands now with real UTR girls where she can screen the clients.
[QUOTE=HesDeadJim;6058391]Well probably me just venting yet again, but I'm looking at halfway decent providers lately just asking stupid prices. How in the f* are you guys meeting these prices? I mean I don't have a crap job and it takes me an entire work day to make 260 bucks and that's before taxes and deductions. Now not even bombshell quality providers. Just plain mediocre. Are asking for things like 250 for a half hour. I hate to be that grumpy old guy but yeah I'm becoming him. I guess somebody out there must be able to afford this or else they wouldn't keep asking. I'm all for giving somebody what they're worth and I'm all for not treating women like objects to be used and disposed of, but holy s* you're seriously asking me for an entire day's wages for somewhat okay service for 30 minutes from a person who is less than stellar eye candy after I had to drive halfway across the city just to meet you? I know I'm just preaching to the choir here, but it's starting to get frustrating. I see a bunch of you mongers talking about how you only see girls who are on this or that website and I start looking at the websites and the average price is around 350 for a half hour and it just kind of gets depressing. Unless I'm a freaking investment banker or a trust fund baby I'm slowly getting priced out of this hobby.[/QUOTE]I know the feeling. I'm getting priced out of EVERYTHING right now. I can't even afford a new truck right now. Get out and VOTE!
[QUOTE=HesDeadJim;6058391]Well probably me just venting yet again, but I'm looking at halfway decent providers lately just asking stupid prices. How in the f* are you guys meeting these prices? I mean I don't have a crap job and it takes me an entire work day to make 260 bucks and that's before taxes and deductions. Now not even bombshell quality providers. Just plain mediocre. Are asking for things like 250 for a half hour. I hate to be that grumpy old guy but yeah I'm becoming him. I guess somebody out there must be able to afford this or else they wouldn't keep asking. I'm all for giving somebody what they're worth and I'm all for not treating women like objects to be used and disposed of, but holy s* you're seriously asking me for an entire day's wages for somewhat okay service for 30 minutes from a person who is less than stellar eye candy after I had to drive halfway across the city just to meet you? I know I'm just preaching to the choir here, but it's starting to get frustrating. I see a bunch of you mongers talking about how you only see girls who are on this or that website and I start looking at the websites and the average price is around 350 for a half hour and it just kind of gets depressing. Unless I'm a freaking investment banker or a trust fund baby I'm slowly getting priced out of this hobby.[/QUOTE]Wake up. Your a broken. Get out of the game bro. Save that $.
He does indeed have at least two accounts here. At least 4 phone numbers. He has stalked / hounded / harassed easily 12 providers in the area. Look at some of the ads. See "no one new"? That is someone hiding from him.
Stop it Frank.
[QUOTE=OldCarGuy69;6083141]I know the feeling. I'm getting priced out of EVERYTHING right now. I can't even afford a new truck right now. Get out and VOTE![/QUOTE]If someone had told me 10 years ago that could easily spend 50, 60, 70 thousand dollars on a pickup truck, or a hundred grand on a non luxury car, I never would have believed him.
I haven't seen anything like this in my lifetime, and I've lived a long time. Very sad, and very scary.
[QUOTE=Jeffc574;6083276]He does indeed have at least two accounts here. At least 4 phone numbers. He has stalked / hounded / harassed easily 12 providers in the area. Look at some of the ads. See "no one new"? That is someone hiding from him.
Stop it Frank.[/QUOTE]Pretty crazy remember reading about this last year and thought it blew over didn't realize he was still harassing them all this time.
I get it been threatened I'm out told Parker I would leave ok so guys stop the threats!
I'm moving on I will not use Timemaker going forward! Too much I tried it didn't work out I spoke with a friend of mine and told him I get it you all know him #77 a calm conversation!
There will not be another Parker call! As for Destiny she never was a factor in this!
Out.
Timemaker.
[QUOTE=Jeffc574;6083276]He does indeed have at least two accounts here. At least 4 phone numbers. He has stalked / hounded / harassed easily 12 providers in the area. Look at some of the ads. See "no one new"? That is someone hiding from him.
Stop it Frank.[/QUOTE]Thanks Jeffc for your input. You're a well respected poster who I know was instrumental in stopping some of his harassing and stalking of other ladies in the past.
I would like to add that in November of last year, Frank attempted a pathetic apology in the blog section here. Most people don't even know it exists and never go there. It's way down the blog list. It's called "To a ladies defense" and only has a single post and is moderated by Timemaker. In it he says repeatedly how he screwed up, lost Parker's trust' and is out. Quitting the hobby, ceasing all texting and harassment. Obviously did not follow through with his promises. Lasted all of about 2 weeks.
[QUOTE=TimeMaker;6083511]I get it been threatened I'm out told Parker I would leave ok so guys stop the threats!
I'm moving on I will not use Timemaker going forward! Too much I tried it didn't work out I spoke with a friend of mine and told him I get it you all know him #77 a calm conversation!
There will not be another Parker call! As for Destiny she never was a factor in this!
Out.
Timemaker.[/QUOTE]If a woman does not want to see you, don't push it and stop stalking all the others you've been attempting to get back in with! It's not just Parker, many others have the same complaint.
[QUOTE=ShiverMeToday;6083955]Frank,
You just don't get it, this is not going away. You have pushed for far too long and you have taken the sweetest provider in STL and made her into a nervous wreck. Frank, you're dick and it is time that you you reap what you sow.
Shivers.[/QUOTE]You know, if I knew Frank's cell number, I'd send him random dick pics and harry assholes all day. If only.
[QUOTE=ShiverMeToday;6083955]Frank,
You just don't get it, this is not going away. You have pushed for far too long and you have taken the sweetest provider in STL and made her into a nervous wreck. Frank, you're dick and it is time that you you reap what you sow.
Shivers.[/QUOTE]I'm upset but would never say them things to this lady.
[QUOTE=ShiverMeToday;6083955]Frank,
You just don't get it, this is not going away. You have pushed for far too long and you have taken the sweetest provider in STL and made her into a nervous wreck. Frank, you're dick and it is time that you you reap what you sow.
Shivers.[/QUOTE]OK I see the screen shot but I would never say that to this lady.
Yes, I want to see her that would not ever get me through the door.
One of you geniuses figure out that number bc this is not me, I see it was sent to her but this nothing I would do.
Ask for session yes too often but never would I do that.
[QUOTE=ShiverMeToday;6083955]Frank,
You just don't get it, this is not going away. You have pushed for far too long and you have taken the sweetest provider in STL and made her into a nervous wreck. Frank, you're dick and it is time that you you reap what you sow.
Shivers.[/QUOTE]Comes back as a 'text now' number.
[QUOTE=TimeMaker;6083511]I get it been threatened I'm out told Parker I would leave ok so guys stop the threats!
I'm moving on I will not use Timemaker going forward! Too much I tried it didn't work out I spoke with a friend of mine and told him I get it you all know him #77 a calm conversation!
There will not be another Parker call! As for Destiny she never was a factor in this!
Out.
Timemaker.[/QUOTE]It's too bad you didn't get the hint years ago and continued to harass her until she was forced to out you. You brought this on yourself.
[QUOTE=TimeMaker;6084206]OK I see the screen shot but I would never say that to this lady.
Yes, I want to see her that would not ever get me through the door.
One of you geniuses figure out that number bc this is not me, I see it was sent to her but this nothing I would do.
Ask for session yes too often but never would I do that.[/QUOTE]This is hilarious. Love the drama. My game plan is fuck them leave then move on and don't give a fuck. Don't fall for the emotional manipulation boys. Don't be a trick.
[QUOTE=QueNine;6084353]Comes back as a 'text now' number.[/QUOTE]Could be Parker texting herself LOL. Certainly wouldn't be the first woman to lie and manipulate a bunch of guys into doing her bidding. I know, but she is so sweet and would never do that. She's my friend, even though I help pay her six figures for two or three days work per week. LOL. There is a reason they are called hookers and we are called tricks.
Really that screenshot is not you? What about this one from July 15? You need to take a break from the hobby all together. We have had this conversation before. Your behavior needs to stop today. Look down this thread. It isn't just me. It isn't just 'friends of Parker' it is all of us.
[QUOTE=StevenHyde;6084735]This is hilarious. Love the drama. My game plan is fuck them leave then move on and don't give a fuck. Don't fall for the emotional manipulation boys. Don't be a trick.[/QUOTE]Dude, why are quoting one of your multiple accounts. Parker posted all your fake names so we know this Steven Hyde account is the same one behind the Timemaker account. You are a sociopath who needs professional help. Stop embarrassing yourself on here and go away.
[QUOTE=HolyStone1975;6084924]Dude, why are quoting one of your multiple accounts. Parker posted all your fake names so we know this Steven Hyde account is the same one behind the Timemaker account. You are a sociopath who needs professional help. Stop embarrassing yourself on here and go away.[/QUOTE]I was really hoping he was Recap Jr. Now I know its Frank I can ignore him completely.
[QUOTE=StlMartin1980;6084726]It's too bad you didn't get the hint years ago and continued to harass her until she was forced to out you. You brought this on yourself.[/QUOTE]Now we know why a lot of women has gone ghost. IMO, bad clients are just as bad as rip off providers. I got on the boards to primarily to ensure everyone knew about rip off providers. It was also a way sharing information on good providers. I'm glad all the good mongers know who has been disrupting the boards now.
Everyone is aware of what this joker is doing and how he's making it hard for the good providers. Seeing that he's willing to create multiple accounts and keeping coming back as a "newbie", that's how he continues to get updated information to continue to harass and disrupt. I like that everyone has told him to stop it.
[QUOTE=Badboy2;6086362] I like that everyone has told him to stop it.[/QUOTE]And just like a 5 yr old, he loves the attention, negative or not, as he reaches for another cookie after being told to stop.
[QUOTE=Slimpicker;6086473]And just like a 5 yr old, he loves the attention, negative or not, as he reaches for another cookie after being told to stop.[/QUOTE]And I would bet he is still texting Parker from new numbers trying to get in to see her and then calling her names when she says no.
[QUOTE=Jeffc574;6084829]Really that screenshot is not you? What about this one from July 15? You need to take a break from the hobby all together. We have had this conversation before. Your behavior needs to stop today. Look down this thread. It isn't just me. It isn't just 'friends of Parker' it is all of us.[/QUOTE]Anyone else remember this "apology"?
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33826-To-a-ladies-defense[/URL]
[QUOTE=DerekStL;6086975]Anyone else remember this "apology"?
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33826-To-a-ladies-defense[/URL][/QUOTE]That was from November and he has spent the last 9 months continuing to terrorize various girls.
Reading that, it furthers my theory that he has been hiding behind other accounts and stalking Reanne as well. There is an account on here who has like 30 posts and 7 of them are asking where Reanne is.
[QUOTE=HolyStone1975;6087056]That was from November and he has spent the last 9 months continuing to terrorize various girls.
Reading that, it furthers my theory that he has been hiding behind other accounts and stalking Reanne as well. There is an account on here who has like 30 posts and 7 of them are asking where Reanne is.[/QUOTE]Look up some posts from Junior 13 regarding a sweet heart called Lexi. She is from the Carbondale area. Poster goes by Junior 13, Thinking it is easy to see this is probably the one and the same asshat. He claims to be from the Marion area, if this is true then he knows exactly where she works from. Instead he has posts in the Lou, Semo area and Carbondale trying to find her rates, where her incalls are and if her service has changed. I am pretty dam sure no sane person is going to drive 2 plus hours to the Lou to see her when she is prob 10 - 15 minutes from his house 2-3 days a week. Your gals like Parker and the others may want to watch for that one to. Be cool Toocan.
[QUOTE=Toocan3;6087333]Look up some posts from Junior 13 regarding a sweet heart called Lexi. She is from the Carbondale area. Poster goes by Junior 13, Thinking it is easy to see this is probably the one and the same asshat. He claims to be from the Marion area, if this is true then he knows exactly where she works from. Instead he has posts in the Lou, Semo area and Carbondale trying to find her rates, where her incalls are and if her service has changed. I am pretty dam sure no sane person is going to drive 2 plus hours to the Lou to see her when she is prob 10 - 15 minutes from his house 2-3 days a week. Your gals like Parker and the others may want to watch for that one to. Be cool Toocan.[/QUOTE]Holystoner is a moron.
[QUOTE=EliasJay;6116618]Found some time to schedule a visit with Lena this weekend.
The good: She's pretty hot, not just for this hobby where some exceptions are made, but in the if you saw her jogging at the park she would draw your attention category. Pretty face and body is tight as hell. She was very easy to talk to and schedule with, friendly in text, and her personality during the visit was very endearing. When it comes to the part of the visit that matters to me, she enthusiastically gets the job done.
The rest: I didn't feel out her out for more options, but my gut says not too much is on the table in that regard. Would love to hear otherwise if anyone has had luck. Nothing against the Fenton setup, but if she had spent some time under the Diana learning tree, or someone similar, she would be the new measuring stick and could stack up a life building nest egg.[/QUOTE]Details? Menu. ?
[QUOTE=SkeeWurt;6117711]Details? Menu. ?[/QUOTE]You didn't tell us what was on the table at all. I find it really amazing that people leave these.
Generic reviews of providers. Why do you think there is a group of folks checking this website to begin with?
To hear about lovely women potentially building their nest eggs? Jezzus.
[QUOTE=SkeeWurt;6118179]You didn't tell us what was on the table at all. I find it really amazing that people leave these.
Generic reviews of providers. Why do you think there is a group of folks checking this website to begin with?
To hear about lovely women potentially building their nest eggs? Jezzus.[/QUOTE]The short answer in my experience is not much. Topless and MT is part of the basic admission and roaming down under was included. Nude massage with DATY is available for an outrageous extra fee. I think it was like another $300. BJ not an option and no FS at all. I believe the closest to more on the table is if she still doubles with Kellee. I did not partake in that but apparently per previous reviews, Kellee will do BJ.
[QUOTE=BobJakkson;6118323]The short answer in my experience is not much. Topless and MT is part of the basic admission and roaming down under was included. Nude massage with DATY is available for an outrageous extra fee. I think it was like another $300. BJ not an option and no FS at all. I believe the closest to more on the table is if she still doubles with Kellee. I did not partake in that but apparently per previous reviews, Kellee will do BJ.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Wow, what a ripoff! Yes she looks hot hot hot but not not not close to 1k hot for reasonable services!
[QUOTE=SkeeWurt;6118179]You didn't tell us what was on the table at all. I find it really amazing that people leave these.
Generic reviews of providers. Why do you think there is a group of folks checking this website to begin with?
To hear about lovely women potentially building their nest eggs? Jezzus.[/QUOTE]She's advertising sensual massages, and I said she was good at the part that mattered but nothing else seemed to be on the table. I'm sorry that you aren't smart enough or experienced enough to figure out what that means. Jesus.
[QUOTE=EliasJay;6118882]She's advertising sensual massages, and I said she was good at the part that mattered but nothing else seemed to be on the table. I'm sorry that you aren't smart enough or experienced enough to figure out what that means. Jesus.[/QUOTE]Oh I see, "good at the part that mattered" like everyone knows what that means. I don't think YOU are smart enough to know that this is not the Good Housekeeping website. Going forward.
No one should ever give any details, yeah that'll work. I guess you have smelling salts and a fainting couch on standby in case you get the vapors?
[QUOTE=SkeeWurt;6119759]Oh I see, "good at the part that mattered" like everyone knows what that means. I don't think YOU are smart enough to know that this is not the Good Housekeeping website. Going forward.
No one should ever give any details, yeah that'll work. I guess you have smelling salts and a fainting couch on standby in case you get the vapors?[/QUOTE]I think most people with a little bit of common since could figure it out, but I really don't care if everyone knows what I meant. The world is hard for people that are stupid. This is a forum, not a charity. If I wanted to hold the hands of reerees that can't cross the street, I would be in a different line of work.
Good luck to you and have a blessed day.
[QUOTE=EliasJay;6119897]I think most people with a little bit of common since could figure it out, but I really don't care if everyone knows what I meant. The world is hard for people that are stupid. This is a forum, not a charity. If I wanted to hold the hands of reerees that can't cross the street, I would be in a different line of work.
Good luck to you and have a blessed day.[/QUOTE]This man over here posting on a review forum that giving details of a service in a review forum is charity, used the term "ree-ree" then told the alleged ree-ree to have a blessed day. What are we doing here, guys?
Give some detail. You don't go on Yelp and post "Taco place. Got job done." I don't think we're asking for every little detail Jack London style, but try to give a little something.
Also. YMMV.
[QUOTE=EliasJay;6118882]She's advertising sensual massages, and I said she was good at the part that mattered but nothing else seemed to be on the table. [/QUOTE]I think EliasJay said it very well. She was good at sensual massage and nothing else was on the table. Enough said.
Really don't know why some find the review inadequate. No need to make it sound like a Penthouse Letter, or ramble on incessantly like our old friend Recap.
[QUOTE=EliasJay;6119897]I think most people with a little bit of common since could figure it out, but I really don't care if everyone knows what I meant. The world is hard for people that are stupid. This is a forum, not a charity. If I wanted to hold the hands of reerees that can't cross the street, I would be in a different line of work.
Good luck to you and have a blessed day.[/QUOTE]Yeah thanks for talking about yourself, I agree that the world IS hard for stupid people.
[QUOTE=Ritewing;6120072]I think EliasJay said it very well. She was good at sensual massage and nothing else was on the table. Enough said.
Really don't know why some find the review inadequate. No need to make it sound like a Penthouse Letter, or ramble on incessantly like our old friend Recap.[/QUOTE]Exactly. If hearing about other guys getting a jerk job is your fetish, that's cool I don't judge, but there are plenty of other places on the internet to indulge in that.
[QUOTE=EliasJay;6120239]Exactly. If hearing about other guys getting a jerk job is your fetish, that's cool I don't judge, but there are plenty of other places on the internet to indulge in that.[/QUOTE]That caused Me to spit some Bulleit out from humor. But nevertheless I agree sometimes you have to be able to read between the lines and some things shouldn't have to be spelled out, especially for a senior member.