Korean Bar Reports

[QUOTE=Kalihi Kid]Tastes may be changing but sex always sells. It has been observed many times in this thread that girls who work the bars do so as a last resort. The world economy is good. That means not only can they find other work but there are more sugar daddies around capable of supporting those who are willing to trade sex for security. The raw material for bars has always been immigrant women who end up in this country without other means of supporting themselves. We now have fewer military bases overseas. Those that still exist are in countries that are very prosperous as well. With the possible exception of China and Russia, women from other countries are not desperately trying to here in order to find a better life. Alas, the future of KB's is in doubt unless a new source of women can be found. I predict we may see some RB's (Russki Bars) in the not too distant future. It has already happened in Korea and Japan. But then that may not be a bad thing.[/QUOTE]

Better get me a copy of Russian for Dummies.

Oysterogo,

Thanks for your civilized explaination of why you go to bars as well as amp's. You are right in what you say. I've spent thousands of dollars in AMP's and certainly not all of it has yielded stellar results.

I think I understand now why at least you and probably many others go to bars.

Lex

[QUOTE=No Name]I totally agree, at KB's it is the thrill of the hunt that gets me going. AMPs there is no hunting involved. It is like shooting fish in the barrel[/QUOTE]
What hunt are you talking about? Is it where you buy the girls drinks upon drinks, and as soon as your money is gone, they go with the baller with the Rolex? Or is it where you are balling, and she says, "I’ll be right back, that's my regular customer..."? Or is it when you spend your paycheck, pop the bubbly, and she freaks out that you want to nail her in the room, and tells you you'll do it when you go out? What about the Chanel or Gucci she asks you for; is that the hunt? Any girl that will do you from the bars will do other customers no matter how special you think the bond is between the two of you, and no matter if she says she is only going to do you. It's a business for them, and you are the consumer just as in the AMPs. It's just that in the AMPs you don't get screwed out of your screw, and there aren't as many mind games. If it is truly the "hunt" you say you are interested in, why don't you go to a night club or sports bar, or even the mall or park where you are on somewhat equal footing with your prey? KBs and VBs are simulated hunts as the prey will go to the feeding hole to get shot just as the fish in the barrel as opposed to the wild game that will not. They have heard it all before, and they have said it all before.

Also, I don’t buy the KB girls are prettier argument as there are serious gems in that barrel. Also, how many of the really hot ones in the bars will let you do them in the booths? I am willing to venture a guess that it's not as many as the number of hot ones in the AMPs who give great service, but maybe that's just me. I am not trying to convince anyone as to the joys of AMPs as there will be less for me, but I feel strongly about AMPs (we have it much better than most states), and I get riled up when people knock them.

2650

[QUOTE=LexLuther]I've spent thousands of dollars in AMP's and certainly not all of it has yielded stellar results.

I think I understand now why at least you and probably many others go to bars.

Lex[/QUOTE]
Lex, which yielded more stellar results dollar for dollar? Also, which yielded the the more sub par results. For me it's no contest. Even bad sex is better than no sex.

2650

Dollar for dollar, almost everyone will say AMP's are better if sex is your only goal. Going to bars is about finding out who will play. The thrill of the hunt refers to the difference between going to an AMP, and being able to have sex with anyone you chose, versus going to a bar and not being able to.

[QUOTE=Anonymous808]Dollar for dollar, almost everyone will say AMP's are better if sex is your only goal. Going to bars is about finding out who will play. The thrill of the hunt refers to the difference between going to an AMP, and being able to have sex with anyone you chose, versus going to a bar and not being able to.[/QUOTE]


Ahh yes the universal reality--different strokes for different folks. Next subject.

[QUOTE=Anonymous808]The thrill of the hunt refers to the difference between going to an AMP, and being able to have sex with anyone you chose, versus going to a bar and not being able to.[/QUOTE]But, the hunt is rigged, and I guess you guys know that right? I think Lex + 2650 agrees that: It's no longer a case of comparing AMP to KB; KB needs to be compared with typical night clubs/bars in Honolulu.

I'm not accusing any of the members her of this stereotype, but here goes: I pass by the KB on Kapiolani all the time. Do you know who I typically see there? Old Japanese men from WWII who made a shitload of money on real estate, who are too old and too introverted to attract young women on their own. So, they have to resort to this rigged "game" for conversation and companionship because their wife is too old or passed away. Why should these girls give up anything for you when they can have unlimited amounts of these "suckers" who all they want are companionship?

Simply put, because of the observation above, KB are a total waste of time! (I'm gonna get flamed for sure, but go ahead, I'm speaking the truth) Sure, you can give me annecdoctal stories of how you hooked up with these KB girls, but these are isolated incidences!! For example, I could give you stories up and down about how me or someone I know hooked up at clubs/bars, too.

For new-comers who want to try to do the KB scene, my general advice to you is: DON'T DO IT!

Here is the computerish code to determine your course of action:

If (you are horny)
go the AMP;
else // you are seeking companionship and "thrill of the hunt"
if (you are decent-looking)
if (you are not too old)
hit the clubs;
else
hit the bars;
else // you are old Japanese, wealthy 3rd generation sugar farmer
go to KB;

We who frequent the KB's all know we have a screw loose. Spending money for the hunt is really not good common sense, but I think most of us are tired of the straight slam, blam thank you mame, in the Amps. We have a fetish for sex in public (or the booths) . . . wish the KB's had a glass elevator, we like messing with the girls minds (Korean water torture), and we want to break the wild stallion that thinks she can never be mounted. It's a power trip and the Amps don't provide it. I know it's sick to spend money for possibly nothing, but it a temporary GFE without putting up with a real girlfriend.

Off this subject. Went to Casino. Anyone knows who the young, round cheek, very short skirt, gal is? I know she's been there for a while. She always wears very reveaaling outfits. Does she play? Sure looks like she does. Not Bebe or Miki.

[QUOTE=Iliketowatch] . . .
Off this subject. Went to Casino. Anyone knows who the young, round cheek, very short skirt, gal is? I know she's been there for a while. She always wears very reveaaling outfits. Does she play? Sure looks like she does. Not Bebe or Miki.[/QUOTE]Actually, thank you for bringing us back to the subject.

Hi,

Just to add my opinion. I think it is very difficult to get what you want at a Korean bar. There was only one time that I have gotten play for free at a Korean Bar without buying anyone a drink or going to the Karaoke Room. This was at Vegas II. But she was kind of old and ugly and I didn't want any piece of it even though I was pretty drunk at the time. Everyone has their own preferences, and for me it is just easier to go to an AMP. I think a lot of people here on this board gets tired of their wife or girlfriend at times and want something new but not permanent or time consuming. I'm sure a lot of people here have had two or more girlfriends at one time at some point in their lives. But for me since, I am not twentysomething anymore and have to work full time, it is a lot more convientent to go to an AMP. To sum it up, if sex were as easy at an Korean Bar as an AMP, then I would probably go to more Korean Bars.

VIP,

You won't get flamed for your opinion from this group, I think everyone is pretty much civilized here. A local club or nightspot thread will appear if there is enough interest but even the guys that go to these places read this forum and go to the KB's too. When members vent and argue about the girls and the scene, I think it's just to get it out of their system. They know what they're up against, although I saw a few real loser customers who fall head over heals for a girl and always get burned. Do we really want a normal relationship in life? I bet not. The KB's give us a chance to have a false, sexual-type relationship without the responsibilty of a real girlfriend. Meeting the family, go to family outings, being trapped into one girl, is not what I want. We only want the fun part of a girlfriend and not the drama, henpeck side. Although with a Korean, drama is a given. I once hear a customer tell a bar girl who really liked him, I don't want to get involved with a girl who works in a bar, and I wouldn't get involved with a girl who wants to hook up with a guy who goes to bar. You want the nine-course meal but I'm only here for the meat.

[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]We who frequent the KB's all know we have a screw loose. Spending money for the hunt is really not good common sense, but I think most of us are tired of the straight slam, blam thank you mame, in the Amps. We have a fetish for sex in public (or the booths) . . . wish the KB's had a glass elevator, we like messing with the girls minds (Korean water torture), and we want to break the wild stallion that thinks she can never be mounted. It's a power trip and the Amps don't provide it. I know it's sick to spend money for possibly nothing, but it a temporary GFE without putting up with a real girlfriend.

Off this subject. Went to Casino. Anyone knows who the young, round cheek, very short skirt, gal is? I know she's been there for a while. She always wears very reveaaling outfits. Does she play? Sure looks like she does. Not Bebe or Miki.[/QUOTE]
I think you're talking about Jae. There's grabbing in the booths and that's about it.

[QUOTE=Localmoko]VIP,

You won't get flamed for your opinion from this group, I think everyone is pretty much civilized here. A local club or nightspot thread will appear if there is enough interest but even the guys that go to these places read this forum and go to the KB's too. When members vent and argue about the girls and the scene, I think it's just to get it out of their system. They know what they're up against, although I saw a few real loser customers who fall head over heals for a girl and always get burned. Do we really want a normal relationship in life? I bet not. The KB's give us a chance to have a false, sexual-type relationship without the responsibilty of a real girlfriend. Meeting the family, go to family outings, being trapped into one girl, is not what I want. We only want the fun part of a girlfriend and not the drama, henpeck side. Although with a Korean, drama is a given. I once hear a customer tell a bar girl who really liked him, I don't want to get involved with a girl who works in a bar, and I wouldn't get involved with a girl who wants to hook up with a guy who goes to bar. You want the nine-course meal but I'm only here for the meat.[/QUOTE]I can't believe I'm saying this, I must be getting old. There are actual times when I don't feel like banging, and don't wanna grab a brew with my friends because they can be irritating. I like to go to KBs, just to sit with a woman and chat. We put our arms around each other, fine. I buy her one or two drinks, she buys me my beer, fine. I go home.

Of course, there are other times when I feel like "hunting" too, but I've been burned enough to stay away from KBs if I'm in that macho mood.

Anyone check out LaVien Rose next to Napa V. I peek in everytime I past by but feel very uncomfortable with my shorts and tee. Seems high-class or wanna bee high-class. Is this the typical table charge JB? Do they only cater to the rich J-tourist?

[QUOTE=Localmoko]VIP,

You won't get flamed for your opinion from this group, I think everyone is pretty much civilized here. A local club or nightspot thread will appear if there is enough interest but even the guys that go to these places read this forum and go to the KB's too. When members vent and argue about the girls and the scene, I think it's just to get it out of their system. They know what they're up against, although I saw a few real loser customers who fall head over heals for a girl and always get burned. Do we really want a normal relationship in life? I bet not. The KB's give us a chance to have a false, sexual-type relationship without the responsibilty of a real girlfriend. Meeting the family, go to family outings, being trapped into one girl, is not what I want. We only want the fun part of a girlfriend and not the drama, henpeck side. Although with a Korean, drama is a given. I once hear a customer tell a bar girl who really liked him, I don't want to get involved with a girl who works in a bar, and I wouldn't get involved with a girl who wants to hook up with a guy who goes to bar. You want the nine-course meal but I'm only here for the meat.[/QUOTE]
OUCH, I have been burned a few times and have fallen for a couple of vbgs. I think mostly everyone,has one time or another been burned or fallen for one of these goldiggers. But no need to call us losers, I prefer dumbasses. JM