"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

The girl I have seen few times started the inital coomunication with "I don't Do oral" up for everything else. Well we got in to it so much, she did a great BJ and never looked back again. Believe me you can get over this hurdle very easy try it next time after few minutes of working. You will be triumphant!

Good lick.

[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;2777761]So I've been weighing a couple of local POTs. Found a very cute and smart younger girl, with her own place, conveniently located, and a great curvy body that I love. After a couple of dates we generally had decent chemistry so we started talking arrangement and for the first time I decided to buy in to a monthly allowance. 5, which seemed reasonable given how often I could see her (she's always free afternoons / evenings). Last night we met, and decided to get it going on. Both made out and stripped down, and she proceeded to give me a pretty amazing blowjob. And she was pretty pleased with herself. Swallowed and everything. Then I went to return the favor and she brushed me off. She explained that only she can get herself off. I am pretty sure she's just too young to know better but I don't feel like forcing myself in her. Making my woman cum. Early and often. Is a huge part of what I love to do. So I'm pretty sure that this is not a long term thing. Question is, what do I do:

- walk away and chalk it up to an educational experience.

- continue to see her a couple more times (since I've arguably paid for a month) and then call it off.

- try my hand at teaching her.

I've got at least one other serious POT who is a little less convenient but with whom I have fantastic chemistry. And plenty of other one-off options that are sexually compatible (and lots of fun). I know some of you have talked about training a girl, but here she seems to be set in her ways.[/QUOTE]

I often tell them -- "I am uncomfortable talking about any $ at the moment. To do so makes you a hooker and I don't see hookers. This is an arrangement, that if it works will be beneficial to both. We both have to invest our time in seeing if it might work".

Then. You get free M&G. NEVER pay for M&G.

After this they have invested time and will want some return. Now the $$ amount is back under your control. Tell them that initial $$ is less as trust has to be built.

GW.

[QUOTE=Alexandria2016;2779319]Been lurking here on the Richmond board for sometime seeing that it's much more active than the DC / NoVA one. Especially enjoy the reports and tips from experienced members.

I am new to the sugar bowl and am learning the ropes. Been mostly on SA with lots of messages from potentials of all ages and races. However the one common thing is the ridiculous amount of money these women are demanding.

College girls who I wouldn't rate more than 6/7 overall demanding $400/ meeting. 20's /30's women, some divorced, some with kids, asking for $2500/ month. Just the other day a 6/7 divorced woman with one kid, actually wrote: "Financially, I am looking for $2,000/ month to start. Am willing to negotiate as we don't know each other just yet. I would like to meet in upscale hotels with a meal and drinks beforehand. ".

It's enough to make me throw in the towel after 2 months on SA. I'm trying the HollywoodGuy 5-step communication approach but it's too early to report results.

Any other Richmond or NoVA folks with similar experiences? How do you guys deal with these outrageous expectations? (I am married and a cheap bastard. I routinely tell these women I will pay $ per meeting. No luck yet. Wondering if I should bump up to $. 5) I guess I want a champagne lifestyle on a beer budget, LOL.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone ever come across this girl looking for an arrangement 804-XXX-7820.

[QUOTE=GuyWoodson;2779695]I often tell them -- "I am uncomfortable talking about any $ at the moment. To do so makes you a hooker and I don't see hookers. This is an arrangement, that if it works will be beneficial to both. We both have to invest our time in seeing if it might work".

Then. You get free M&G. NEVER pay for M&G.

After this they have invested time and will want some return. Now the $$ amount is back under your control. Tell them that initial $$ is less as trust has to be built.

GW.[/QUOTE]Interesting approach. Has it been successful for you? I haven't tried this yet but may give it a shot.

Yes -- it has worked for me. The approach keeps the power with us SDs -- once you start talking $$ you have lost.

Once I meet them I can assess if they might workout OK -- if not nothing is lost.

I have even got some to the FC without talking $$ -- again if they are not any good -- you pay low. They might get pissed and never see you again, but you have already decided they are history.

If she is good. You reward the good with a little more and tell her that you hope the present is acceptable as a starting gift.

[QUOTE=Alexandria2016;2779883]Interesting approach. Has it been successful for you? I haven't tried this yet but may give it a shot.[/QUOTE]

And toftt or I'll do it. LOL.

[QUOTE=Trewaller;2779717]Has anyone ever come across this girl looking for an arrangement 804-XXX-7820.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PassinHoes;2780356]And toftt or I'll do it. LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL She is in nova but the 804 gave me pause to check with you guys; she wants a fairly significant amount per visit so I thought I would check and see if she had been in Richmond.

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I get it that a lot of the guys that think of themselves as SD's do so with the idea that they are doing something different, something more exclusive, and many like to think better.

Here's the thing, if it wasn't for the money she wouldn't be sucking your cock. That makes her a hooker and you a john end of story. Dress it up however you want but at the end of the day it's still commercial sex, that's why we have the thread.

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I totally agree with GuyWoodson. That's the approach I've used, and it works quite well. Been working in the DC / Nova area for over a year. I do think the amounts are generally in the 2-3 range, if you don't want to haggle too much. But seriously, get to the m&g without a discussion of payment. You'll be glad you did.

Without exception, the best arrangements I've had were with women who I clicked with. From there, the arrangement discussion was easy.

So. All is pretty good in my SB world. Still with the SB I pined for over a couple years. She expresses wanting to spend more time together. Not asking for more allowance but would like more overnites etc. Now for the Ralphie part. You remember when he was helping his dad with the flat tire and he drops the F bomb.

Welllll. Ooooohhhh Fuuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkk. My SB has a car accident (I have seen the car). Oh. Here is the big oooohhh fuuuuucccckkkk. Yup you guessed it. No insurance!. Could of been a lot worse but not drivable and needs $1500 work. Hey Monday was a great sex day. And when see looks up at me with those georgous eyes and unable to talk. LOL. What are ya going to do. Yup. I am certain I will pay. And will be certain to get her insurance up to date!

All this when I was getting my CTF down to about 700 visit.. guess that just got bumped back up!

Thats what's going on on my sugar world!

Absolutely works, that's all part of the approach. Many will try to ask up front for the amount, I avoid at all costs. Or give a very big range with a lot of conditions, the babys living conditions how we interact how often we can meet excetera. It works very well, once they find you are a nice guy, and absolutely you must be, they will open up to you. I have had only one situation where it went to the FC, and she was not happy with the amount. Come to find out she was a bit off, a cutter, marks up and down both arms with phyc issues, so I'll chalk that one up to experience! I suggest you go back and read through some of the earlier postings, you will learn a lot.

[QUOTE=Alexandria2016;2779883]Interesting approach. Has it been successful for you? I haven't tried this yet but may give it a shot.[/QUOTE]

You guys are probably going to think I'm crazy, but check this out.

Was chatting with a hot blonde with super athletic body in another city. First-year med student. Based on her email address, I was able to verify her true identity and that she was who she said she was. Facebook page, LinkedIn profile, University records the whole works. Super legit, and clearly with something to lose. Her expectations were "moderate" so I was thinking in the $700 range for an all nighter.

Was supposed to meet her a couple months back on a business trip but it got canceled at the last minute, so I had to bail on her even though she had rearranged her school schedule for an overnight.

Felt bad about the cancellation, so she gave me her address and I sent her the consolation prize package. Best part was, it only cost me beers since it was a bunch of sample and discontinued beauty and cosmetic items from my buddies distributorship. Retail value was over 300 bucks. Even sent her a catnip toy for her new kitten. She was totally floored. More messaging about the fun we would've had and I suggested I should've sent her a toy to hold the river until we can actually meet. She said send away! Hundred and 20 bucks later on Adam and Eve, and she has a different kind of consolation prize.

Next thing I know, she start emailing me some pictures and short videos of her enjoying herself, and fine Cinemax style. Nothing too explicit, but very hot and abundantly clear.

I suggest a costume change an email or her a gift card for Victoria's Secret. She gets a few new outfits, and more photo and video fashion shows.

At this point I'm in for less than $300 out-of-pocket.

We finally met last week, and it was fucking wild. Barely made it through cocktails before retreating to my room, for an all-night all access, toys included lingerie show and fuck fest. She even worker white lab coat with stilettos and nothing else. Must have gone at it 4 or 5 times. She left and went to class, then called me at lunch time saying she had two hours free and came back to my room and blew me senseless. Slept the whole train ride home that night, but if I stayed in town, she made it clear she was happy to do so for a repeat performance.

Didn't give her a single dime. I guess spoiling her in advance rang so high on the trust meter that she just gave herself over to me. Probably not a high percentage strategy, but it certainly paid off this time.

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2783975]You guys are probably going to think I'm crazy, but check this out.

Was chatting with a hot blonde with super athletic body in another city. First-year med student. Based on her email address, I was able to verify her true identity and that she was who she said she was. Facebook page, LinkedIn profile, University records the whole works. Super legit, and clearly with something to lose. Her expectations were "moderate" so I was thinking in the $700 range for an all nighter.

Was supposed to meet her a couple months back on a business trip but it got canceled at the last minute, so I had to bail on her even though she had rearranged her school schedule for an overnight.

Felt bad about the cancellation, so she gave me her address and I sent her the consolation prize package. Best part was, it only cost me beers since it was a bunch of sample and discontinued beauty and cosmetic items from my buddies distributorship. Retail value was over 300 bucks. Even sent her a catnip toy for her new kitten. She was totally floored. More messaging about the fun we would've had and I suggested I should've sent her a toy to hold the river until we can actually meet. She said send away! Hundred and 20 bucks later on Adam and Eve, and she has a different kind of consolation prize.

Next thing I know, she start emailing me some pictures and short videos of her enjoying herself, and fine Cinemax style. Nothing too explicit, but very hot and abundantly clear.

I suggest a costume change an email or her a gift card for Victoria's Secret. She gets a few new outfits, and more photo and video fashion shows.

At this point I'm in for less than $300 out-of-pocket.

We finally met last week, and it was fucking wild. Barely made it through cocktails before retreating to my room, for an all-night all access, toys included lingerie show and fuck fest. She even worker white lab coat with stilettos and nothing else. Must have gone at it 4 or 5 times. She left and went to class, then called me at lunch time saying she had two hours free and came back to my room and blew me senseless. Slept the whole train ride home that night, but if I stayed in town, she made it clear she was happy to do so for a repeat performance.

Didn't give her a single dime. I guess spoiling her in advance rang so high on the trust meter that she just gave herself over to me. Probably not a high percentage strategy, but it certainly paid off this time.[/QUOTE]Wow- that story was awesome! I thought for sure you were going to get taken from the way it started. I used to go to a massage place back in the 90's where the American gals were hot and wore those white lab coats.

[QUOTE=Kellster;2784951]Wow- that story was awesome! I thought for sure you were going to get taken from the way it started. [/QUOTE]Once I was able to verify that she was a Med Student at a real school (NOT Greneda!) I knew she knew she had a lot to lose. I just did not know how long it would take before I could cash in. Can't get in too deep as I rarely overnight anywhere for two nights!

Currently have the same thing going with a 23 yo blonde congressional aide for when I finally get up to DC. Of course, I am ruining them for the SDs they meet for coffee who think a M&G is the time to tell them their fetish fantasies for their arrangement!

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2785290]Once I was able to verify that she was a Med Student at a real school (NOT Greneda!) I knew she knew she had a lot to lose. I just did not know how long it would take before I could cash in. Can't get in too deep as I rarely overnight anywhere for two nights!

Currently have the same thing going with a 23 yo blonde congressional aide for when I finally get up to DC. Of course, I am ruining them for the SDs they meet for coffee who think a M&G is the time to tell them their fetish fantasies for their arrangement![/QUOTE]Good job Archer -you are a Playa! In the scheme of things you are using a Sugar site to date IRL. I forget but I suspect you are younger (under 40)? Girls are more apt to see guys as an IRL dating situation if the SD is under 15 yrs age difference. Having access to free gifts is awesome too since it is no skin off your butt.

[QUOTE=Bowtie;2783672]Absolutely works, that's all part of the approach. Many will try to ask up front for the amount, I avoid at all costs. Or give a very big range with a lot of conditions, the babys living conditions how we interact how often we can meet excetera. It works very well, once they find you are a nice guy, and absolutely you must be, they will open up to you. I have had only one situation where it went to the FC, and she was not happy with the amount. Come to find out she was a bit off, a cutter, marks up and down both arms with phyc issues, so I'll chalk that one up to experience! I suggest you go back and read through some of the earlier postings, you will learn a lot.[/QUOTE]DC / VA newbie reporting back. Thanks gents for the advice. It is spot on. For the last few girls I communicated with through SA, I made no mention of money or evaded the question with a counterargument. Works pretty well and somehow seems to make them eager to meet sooner. Did this with a cute AA college girl and had a very positive m&g yesterday. She suggested herself that I book a hotel room for us for our next meeting. Now if only I can get our schedules to line up.

A question: I heard back from a cute petite white girl. She wants to meet and money hasn't been discussed yet. After some sleuthing I find out she is a former suicide girl, webcam girl, does nude modeling etc. I have no experience with someone like her. Worth meeting or will she be potentially crazy and / or high maintenance?

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2785306]Good job Archer -you are a Playa! In the scheme of things you are using a Sugar site to date IRL. I forget but I suspect you are younger (under 40)? Girls are more apt to see guys as an IRL dating situation if the SD is under 15 yrs age difference. Having access to free gifts is awesome too since it is no skin off your butt.[/QUOTE]I'm married and over 50. I've had luck with 23 - 45 but always the same MO, though the pre-pay gambit is relatively new.

Definitely treat it like dating, and the SBs go for that.

"Sure Thing" dating is more like it!

I'm over 50 (barely) and currently dating a former SB that is 30+ years my junior. I'm divorced, so I have a significant advantage.

Many girls are tired of the younger guys that not established, insecure, jealous and selfish.

If you stay in good shape, are established, confident, not jealous and unselfish many women will be attracted to you.

This is now my 3rd SB that has transitioned to a girlfriend. It is clearly to my advantage that I am unable to make a commitment which somehow women find attractive.

[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2785524]I'm married and over 50. I've had luck with 23 - 45 but always the same MO, though the pre-pay gambit is relatively new.

Definitely treat it like dating, and the SBs go for that.

"Sure Thing" dating is more like it![/QUOTE]

LOL, I can't speak to your latest find, but I can to crazies in general. The cutter, I had some feeling at the mg, so the fc meeting (at her place), I took extra precautions. Got there early to scout out the place, parked down the street, brought nothing extra with me (car key, not the remote, covers, cash and a knife, that's it). I partially hid the cash under her purse when I left (amount on the upper end of my scale and I'm generous). After I leave, phone blows up! I didn't worry a bit knowing she had nothing on me. Other young lady friend was very pretty, at times very sweet and loving, at times just the opposite. I picked up on this from the first mg, but her good qualities brought me back for several tries. FC was fun, very good in fact, but personality was whacked (multiple maybe? I saw her a few times to see if things could improve but they didn't so I moved on. She blows my phone up with 30 or 40 texts in a row! No biggie, she had nothing on me. I kept glove box locked, nothing personal out in open. Protect yourself and its fine, key is being in control and aware. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Alexandria2016;2785465]DC / VA newbie reporting back. Thanks gents for the advice. It is spot on. For the last few girls I communicated with through SA, I made no mention of money or evaded the question with a counterargument. Works pretty well and somehow seems to make them eager to meet sooner. Did this with a cute AA college girl and had a very positive m&g yesterday. She suggested herself that I book a hotel room for us for our next meeting. Now if only I can get our schedules to line up.

A question: I heard back from a cute petite white girl. She wants to meet and money hasn't been discussed yet. After some sleuthing I find out she is a former suicide girl, webcam girl, does nude modeling etc. I have no experience with someone like her. Worth meeting or will she be potentially crazy and / or high maintenance?[/QUOTE]

Well gents, for the first time the 5 step approach has failed me. Actually got a legit hit on a CL ad I posted, 29 why / o SB want to be, seemed very new to it all. I used the 5 step approach and the answer I get back is "too complicated". WTF? So, I have moved on immediately to the next one. I figure if she thinks that is too complicated, then she is going to be a problem down the road. Never did get a pic from her so I have convinced myself she wasn't all that hot. NEXT!

Likely not a baby on CL, more along the line of utr. That's why she blew off the 5 step, she wasn't into the emotional connection, just the cash.

[QUOTE=FyrGuy33;2786719]Well gents, for the first time the 5 step approach has failed me. Actually got a legit hit on a CL ad I posted, 29 why / o SB want to be, seemed very new to it all. I used the 5 step approach and the answer I get back is "too complicated". WTF? So, I have moved on immediately to the next one. I figure if she thinks that is too complicated, then she is going to be a problem down the road. Never did get a pic from her so I have convinced myself she wasn't all that hot. NEXT![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bowtie;2786725]Likely not a baby on CL, more along the line of utr. That's why she blew off the 5 step, she wasn't into the emotional connection, just the cash.[/QUOTE]Likely not a baby -I agree. In my experience girls working on CL and BP are very difficult to transition to a true SB. Once they ride the cock carousel they can't go back. That is, unless you don't see any difference between an SB and an escort- that they are one and the same.

MY interpretation of a Sugar Baby -is that she is a low (er) volume girl who limits her activities to her Sugar Daddy as more of a girl friend experience. Sex is usually involved but doesn't have to be. Sugar dates tend to be for hours and possibly days at a time. She tends not to see multiple men at an hourly / fractional rate as in the Escort world. The line can be blurred for sure.

[QUOTE=Bowtie;2786507]LOL, I can't speak to your latest find, but I can to crazies in general. The cutter, I had some feeling at the mg, so the fc meeting (at her place), I took extra precautions. Got there early to scout out the place, parked down the street, brought nothing extra with me (car key, not the remote, covers, cash and a knife, that's it). I partially hid the cash under her purse when I left (amount on the upper end of my scale and I'm generous). After I leave, phone blows up! I didn't worry a bit knowing she had nothing on me. Other young lady friend was very pretty, at times very sweet and loving, at times just the opposite. I picked up on this from the first mg, but her good qualities brought me back for several tries. FC was fun, very good in fact, but personality was whacked (multiple maybe? I saw her a few times to see if things could improve but they didn't so I moved on. She blows my phone up with 30 or 40 texts in a row! No biggie, she had nothing on me. I kept glove box locked, nothing personal out in open. Protect yourself and its fine, key is being in control and aware. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Good story, thanks for sharing. So I texted this white ex-suicide girl I mentioned in my previous post. She is certifiable bonkers. In her first text she sends me a nude photo (she's a nude model) and we go back and forth a bit. A few days later I text her again and casually mention her SA profile photos look different from the nude pic she sent me, probably due to her being a model with different make-up, hair etc depending on the photos.

She then goes absolutely crazy, denying she ever sent me a nude photo. And when I described the photo in specific detail, she texted the same photo to me again. WTF?

Thankfully I text these SA girls a lot before deciding to meet them, you can really tell a lot about their personalities by their texting style and frequency. Anyway as some much more experienced board member said, NEXT!

The key things that distinguish a SB for me is the expectation that there will be attraction and genuine affection.

[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;2788869]The key things that distinguish a SB for me is the expectation that there will be attraction and genuine affection.[/QUOTE]The attraction and genuine affection is there because your paying them. Now take away the arrangement and if they still want to see you then you have something. Remove the sugar and see where the genuine affection goes.

Not all girls are the same.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2789066]The attraction and genuine affection is there because your paying them. Now take away the arrangement and if they still want to see you then you have something. Remove the sugar and see where the genuine affection goes.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;2789066]The attraction and genuine affection is there because your paying them. Now take away the arrangement and if they still want to see you then you have something. Remove the sugar and see where the genuine affection goes.[/QUOTE]Given the number of babies that I have where there is no or virtually no sugar, I'd say it's still very high.

Hey all, I think I have unintentionally found a potential SB in my city when I was looking for a hookup. We have only only contacted through email and I included a pic with my number but she chose to respond to the email.

I was hoping to avoid bringing up a price before we me but she is requesting 3500 month and to only meet discretely to avoid public eye. Can anyone offer advice on how to proceed? I would like to talk her down to 200 or less per date. I'm asking for help because this is where I would screw it up the one time I tried out the SB thing. NEGOTIATING.

She is a full bodied blonde and I would like to land this one quick.

[QUOTE=AmpLove;2792112]I was hoping to avoid bringing up a price before we me but she is requesting 3500 month[/QUOTE]Mention that your last few SBs got X amount per week or month or date or whatever (X being the amount you're willing to lay out for this girl). Politely but firmly decline her offer of 3500. She may bounce back and agree to the amount that you're offering. If she moves on, you do the same. Don't negotiate, never negotiate. You have the money, so you make the rules.

[QUOTE=AmpLove;2792112]Hey all, I think I have unintentionally found a potential SB in my city when I was looking for a hookup. We have only only contacted through email and I included a pic with my number but she chose to respond to the email.

I was hoping to avoid bringing up a price before we me but she is requesting 3500 month and to only meet discretely to avoid public eye. Can anyone offer advice on how to proceed? I would like to talk her down to 200 or less per date. I'm asking for help because this is where I would screw it up the one time I tried out the SB thing. NEGOTIATING.

She is a full bodied blonde and I would like to land this one quick.[/QUOTE]Two ways to approach this -pick one depending on your personality and Game. If you have game opt for #2. If not then hit her straight up with #1.

1) Tell her you'd like to meet her but Your allowance is in the $1000/ month range. Try to give SBs your allowance in monthly rates, even if you pay by the visit. It sounds less escort-ish to some of them. If she blows you off then good riddance.

2) tell her you don't like to talk money without meeting first but you are committed to paying an allowance. . Some Players with good game think that they can win her over after meeting. And they are probably correct. If a girl likes you she will probably take less than she wants.

[QUOTE=AmpLove;2792112]Hey all, I think I have unintentionally found a potential SB in my city when I was looking for a hookup. We have only only contacted through email and I included a pic with my number but she chose to respond to the email.

I was hoping to avoid bringing up a price before we me but she is requesting 3500 month and to only meet discretely to avoid public eye. Can anyone offer advice on how to proceed? I would like to talk her down to 200 or less per date. I'm asking for help because this is where I would screw it up the one time I tried out the SB thing. NEGOTIATING.

She is a full bodied blonde and I would like to land this one quick.[/QUOTE]I second what Foto says, and offer this additional observation: in my years in the Bowl, true SBs have no qualms against being seen in public with me. In fact, they all want to do things outside the bedroom as well as in it, and fortunately I'm in a big city, so not really concerned with being spotted. In my experience, the ones who say they will ONLY meet in private turn out to be UTRs or pros.

There has been the occasional exception, of course, but they only prove the rule. Have you run her pics through Tineye and Google Images to see if she turns up elsewhere?

Also, I've been seeing a super hot 19 yo baby recently who initially told me her last SD used to give her 750. I politely declined, saying that my usual sugar fell in the 150 to 200 range. After a few more back and forths, with me wishing her the best of luck in her search and assuring her she was certainly worth what she had been getting, but not from me, she agreed to 175, and has been perfectly happy and affectionate since.

Hold your ground, brothers, no matter how hot they are, or how far apart you initially seem. Many will come around, if not right away then after they've gotten a few dick pics and you start to look like Prince Charming. And if they don't, there's always more signing up every day.

Got to love this shit!

Scott.

I contatced her she asks for 3500 $ amonth for one time a week meeting. Is that normal for a SB for overpriced.

[URL]http://richmond.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/here-i-am-what-were-your-other-two-wishes/17321733[/URL]

[QUOTE=Larry1023;2794099]I contatced her she asks for 3500 $ amonth for one time a week meeting. Is that normal for a SB for overpriced.

[URL]http://richmond.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/here-i-am-what-were-your-other-two-wishes/17321733[/URL][/QUOTE]She is delusional.

[QUOTE=Larry1023;2794099]I contatced her she asks for 3500 $ amonth for one time a week meeting. Is that normal for a SB for overpriced.

[URL]http://richmond.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/here-i-am-what-were-your-other-two-wishes/17321733[/URL][/QUOTE]She's a hooker.

[QUOTE=Larry1023;2794099]I contatced her she asks for 3500 $ amonth for one time a week meeting. Is that normal for a SB for overpriced.

[URL]http://richmond.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/here-i-am-what-were-your-other-two-wishes/17321733[/URL][/QUOTE]"real " SBs do not post on BP, CL,escort dot com, etc.

The "going" rate in mid Atlantic is $100 -300 tops / visit. There are some cash flush or inexperienced guys who will pay more, but she is asking $875. Ludicrous! Grand theft pussy.

Really? Yes. A hooker who will take $100 for a QV incall.

[QUOTE=Larry1023;2794099]I contatced her she asks for 3500 $ amonth for one time a week meeting. Is that normal for a SB for overpriced.

[URL]http://richmond.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/here-i-am-what-were-your-other-two-wishes/17321733[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GuyWoodson;2794569]Really? Yes. A hooker who will take $100 for a QV incall.[/QUOTE]Yes that's what I replied to her LOL. She said this is not my first time that I get that much and she is not a hooker LOL. I was like hell no it ain't going to be from me. For 3500 a month at least should 4 times a week to me to ride that pony. That's why I posted in here to confirm if this is what SM pay for a sugar baby. I have never done this SB type of thing. But I know that there are SM in here that are expert in this field so I wanted to make sure if that's what's going on or she is overpricing this. The pics are hot and she'll send more once she get a confirmation. She told me she has a boyfriend and she has to come to me. I avoided for the ridiculous overpriced $$ I tend to have more attraction to SB because I feel it's safer and cleaner with no drama shit going on. Happy weekend.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2794538]"real " SBs do not post on BP, CL,escort dot com, etc.

The "going" rate in mid Atlantic is $100 -300 tops / visit. There are some cash flush or inexperienced guys who will pay more, but she is asking $875. Ludicrous! Grand theft pussy.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Good to know the range so I know how to negotiate with SBs.

I was wondering if anyone has found that the agreed on first date price is what the lady in question is willing to take from then on? I'm expecting upsell.

I see some that were on SA for a long time are now just on WYP. Generally speaking not worth buying credits there as only a few people seem active.

[QUOTE=ToeLover57;2795809]I was wondering if anyone has found that the agreed on first date price is what the lady in question is willing to take from then on? I'm expecting upsell.

I see some that were on SA for a long time are now just on WYP. Generally speaking not worth buying credits there as only a few people seem active.[/QUOTE]What is WYP?