NoVA SugarBabies

[QUOTE=ChrisCarr;6318824]Shit, you are using Seeking to deliver 90% of your vagina, too bad it doesn't come via delivery and with a return bag.

Even dropping 50 lbs between now and 2024 is doable without going as extreme as a bootcamp\PT and personal chef, and you won't be so saggy as to need surgery.

Simple lifestyle changes will yield benefits and that goes beyond sugaring. I find my personal productivity increased tremendously when I installed a walking treadmill under my desk, lumbering along at 1. 5 mph while working.[/QUOTE]I was going to suggest this. "Working out" would be overkill, but walking on a treadmill can be done while watching a TV show, on a conference call, or even typing on a laptop. Anything to get you up and moving.

[QUOTE=NovaDaddy69;6318923]Claims to be a college student. Wants $200 for a meet and greet over coffee to "discuss our options" before any intimacy. Offered a nice lunch instead, she insisted on getting paid for a meet and greet. Told her good luck.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b1a40a13-ccc2-48f0-8a58-95880d5bad2a[/URL][/QUOTE]Tell her to stop watching tick tock.

[QUOTE=NovaDaddy69;6318923]Claims to be a college student. Wants $200 for a meet and greet over coffee to "discuss our options" before any intimacy. Offered a nice lunch instead, she insisted on getting paid for a meet and greet. Told her good luck.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b1a40a13-ccc2-48f0-8a58-95880d5bad2a[/URL][/QUOTE]Fuck. She's 21 that's her peak and she is a fat as shut.

These girls are crazy. On reddit the sugarbaby forum have all these chick's trying g to pump each other up like they're getting a whale.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6318165]My long posts were responses about my experience in the scene and give my perspective. I said I disagreed with some things, but at no point did I ask for advice from anyone, nor did I lecture anybody about their lives.

90% of the time I could do like TomFord and when someone posts about a girl, rage about how ugly she is and how the man must be a loser to even want to fuck her. Or when the ever so common comment about allowance comes up and dudes flip out at paying more than 400 PPM, I could lecture them about financial success and how if they didn't settle for mediocrity, then maybe they wouldn't be pinching pennies over pussy.

Instead, I say nothing. When I can, I give my experiences as a man with my circumstances. And in turn, dudes tell me I can't accept reality LOL.[/QUOTE]It's about value. These aren't even worth McDonalds.

Anyone recently used a vanilla gift card on seeking?

Trying to see what the alternatives are to a credit card.

[QUOTE=JonFisher;6320131]Anyone recently used a vanilla gift card on seeking?

Trying to see what the alternatives are to a credit card.[/QUOTE]Last time I tried to use the Vanilla card it didn't work. I find that any card that can be registered with myprepaidbalance (there will be instructions on the back of the card that you can read before you buy it) seems to work.

Curious if I'm too skeptical. One of those "I want her to be real but doubting it" scenarios.

She's attractive IMO. Skepticism triggers: Her private pictures are grainy. That "photo of a photo" look. Worse then her public ones. Hot chicks know how to take quality pictures of themselves. Profile includes ". Or rushing to get my assignments done while working full time. " But her profile notes having a college degree and an occupation already. So if these are school assignments, that makes no sense. Profile is a week old, so unlikely the language is just not updated. Our conversation has no red flags at this stage but has been brief and trivial.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8340b2b5-02d3-4ba3-997b-fcdc0d2ae899[/URL]

[QUOTE=JonFisher;6320131]Anyone recently used a vanilla gift card on seeking?

Trying to see what the alternatives are to a credit card.[/QUOTE]Buy a gift card and add it to a Google Pay account (make a new one that your SO does not know about). You can pay using Google Pay.

[QUOTE=SRH59;6321110]Curious if I'm too skeptical. One of those "I want her to be real but doubting it" scenarios.

She's attractive IMO. Skepticism triggers: Her private pictures are grainy. That "photo of a photo" look. Worse then her public ones. Hot chicks know how to take quality pictures of themselves. Profile includes ". Or rushing to get my assignments done while working full time. " But her profile notes having a college degree and an occupation already. So if these are school assignments, that makes no sense. Profile is a week old, so unlikely the language is just not updated. Our conversation has no red flags at this stage but has been brief and trivial.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8340b2b5-02d3-4ba3-997b-fcdc0d2ae899[/URL][/QUOTE]I'd go ahead and ask her these questions. I've tried it a couple of times. Both girls were amazed that I actually read her narrative. Ghosting quickly followed in both cases.

I think she's been around for a while but under another name.

She has been reviwed before including me and you can search for them. I saw her years back and she hosted. Had a roomate and insisted to keep the noise levels down. Too many restrictions and kind of a dead fish and get it done kind of a thing back then.

[QUOTE=DCKing;6321194]I think she's been around for a while but under another name.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustLikeThe;6321221]She has been reviwed before including me and you can search for them. I saw her years back and she hosted. Had a roomate and insisted to keep the noise levels down. Too many restrictions and kind of a dead fish and get it done kind of a thing back then.[/QUOTE]I believe she has a kid now and wants $ for babysitting as well as PPM. Avoid at all costs. Will try to hold you up for that babysitting money if you change plans. Even if its a meet and greet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/16e26d63-7d58-401b-b348-666417c50666[/URL]

White girl, from baltimore area, seems very eager to meet up, idk if that's a red flag.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/19b83aa6-c935-45cb-b339-996177f080b6[/URL]

Asian, been on the site for years, also a red flag?

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=DCKing;6321194]I think she's been around for a while but under another name.[/QUOTE]AVOID, AVOID, and AVOID. There are 1000's of other girls that you can go with.

[QUOTE=FogHorn1;6321032]Last time I tried to use the Vanilla card it didn't work. I find that any card that can be registered with myprepaidbalance (there will be instructions on the back of the card that you can read before you buy it) seems to work.[/QUOTE]I use [URL]giftcards.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=NovaDaddy69;6318923]Claims to be a college student. Wants $200 for a meet and greet over coffee to "discuss our options" before any intimacy. Offered a nice lunch instead, she insisted on getting paid for a meet and greet. Told her good luck.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b1a40a13-ccc2-48f0-8a58-95880d5bad2a[/URL][/QUOTE]& this one wants $35 o for a meet-and-greet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a80e22aa-2fd4-4df7-b7a3-afe0489fe5f8[/URL]

[QUOTE=WorkYard;6321563]& this one wants $35 o for a meet-and-greet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a80e22aa-2fd4-4df7-b7a3-afe0489fe5f8[/URL][/QUOTE]As hot as she looks in those jeans, I'd take the M&G for $35. That's not even a tank of gas.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6317894]I ask for 12 h dates when the girl asks for 1000 ppm, not the other way around. My usual date is dinner and a few hours in a hotel room for 500, or less if I can negotiate it, but I'm rarely successful.

I've tried sleeping with women that aren't 8's and 9's. I'm just not attracted to them. Most of the time, the allowance that 7's ask for isn't even much different, still around 500 ppm, maybe 400. I have never gotten a single girl to agree to 300, so it's not like I'm saving a bunch of money by lowering my standards.

I'm at the point where if I couldn't afford to see 8's and above, I'd just stay home. Average chicks do nothing for me, sure they're fine as friends, but I don't get turned on by them. I also have an extremely hard time cumming, so it doesn't help when the girl is not smoking hot.

I don't get jealous, I couldn't care less about who else the girl is seeing. Sometimes when we're fucking, during dirty talk I ask them about the last guy they had inside them and when it was. Most girls get nervous because they figure it's a test I'm giving them and I'll flip out if they tell the truth, but I honestly get turned on hearing about other times they've enjoyed getting fucked. I've talked to girls about their BF's or dudes they're fucking, like a former SB from Richmond who fucked her 21 yo coworker at the bakery bareback even though she wasn't on BC.

You're not the first person to suggest getting in shape, and I'll say the same thing I've said to others: I work up really long hours frequently, 9 am until 7 PM, then 2 hours for dinner, then work until I go to bed at 12 or 1 am. I'm not about to put more stress on myself by adding working out to that. I hate exercising, it's very stressful for me and I don't get any sort of runner's high or whatever that other people talk about, or any improvement to my mood. It's just miserable.

I also have this mental thing where I hate my own cooking. I've had someone who knows how to cook stand next to the stove and tell me exactly what ingredients to add and when, and the end product that comes out is something I cannot eat, even though I know it's logically fine. It's something to do with seeing raw ingredients become a finished dish, it just ruins my appetite and makes it taste bad in my mouth.

So, with those things in mind, sure I could invest my money into overcoming those obstacles. Build a home gym. Hire a personal trainer to come over every day to train me. Hire a personal chef to deliver cooked food to me every other day that I just need to microwave. Hire a personal stylist and shopper to go out and buy outfits, design a wardrobe for me. All those put together and I'm probably at close to my SB budget, with no money left over for anything fun.

That will be my life for the next 2 years, working 12 hours a day and eating food from plastic containers, as well as doing pushups with some dude yelling motivational phrases at me. I should be around 180 for might height, so 120 pounds to lose. Then after I lose that weight, I have to go to a plastic surgeon to cut off the loose skin, heal up for another 6-8 months while not gaining any weight even though working out becomes harder.

After going through that hell, now the 9'sand 10's are going to be all over me, I'll be swimming in model pussy right? Wrong, now I'm just looking like an average dude who keeps fit. They're a dime a dozen at the gym, and none of them date Instagram models. I still have to become a multi millionaire at the minimum, as well as develop a social circle where I can have access to girls like that, and the free time to give them the experiences they date rich men for.

It's all so far away that it's not my concern now. I'm focused on building my business, and using money to get whatever I can in the sugar world. Once I'm over the hump I'm at now and have a bit more time, I can hit the weights.

EDIT: One other thing I wanted to comment on, have you sugared outside DC? As I said, I have had much more success finding girls I like in Vegas, even though I've only been there on a couple trips vs living in DC. The bell curve is different for different locations, and I think DC is just skewed unfavorably[/QUOTE]There are lots of ways you can lose weight without sweating / exercising or having surgery. I was 300+ two years back and now am 165 lbs. DM me and will share details.

[QUOTE=Max#01;6321571]As hot as she looks in those jeans, I'd take the M&G for $35. That's not even a tank of gas.[/QUOTE]He wrote "$35 o".

Seems that he might have meant 350, not 35.

[QUOTE=Max#01;6321571]As hot as she looks in those jeans, I'd take the M&G for $35. That's not even a tank of gas.[/QUOTE]She wants $350, I haggled and she gave me the friends-and-family discount at $300.

Meeting her over the weekend. Just wondering if anyone has met her before?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/695a0f20-36b9-426d-acd3-2402e5dde990[/URL]

[QUOTE=WorkYard;6321574]There are lots of ways you can lose weight without sweating / exercising or having surgery. I was 300+ two years back and now am 165 lbs. DM me and will share details.[/QUOTE]Bro if you're 300+ LBS take a break here and on SA for 6 months, hire a personal trainer spending what you would have spent over that time on SBs, and get your ass healthy again. This ain't a Ted Talk trying to make you feel better, you have some major weight problems that are going to lead to health issues and eventually kill you much earlier than you should be passing away. Spend your money more wisely. Sorry if this is insensitive; but you need to focus on yourself and not paying ****** to fuck, get your health in order and come back when you're less likely to have a stroke or heart attack. And dudes in this forum need to stop being enablers and tell this dude to get his priorities in check, fucking dumb ass young hoes is WAY down on the list when your health is in question.

[QUOTE=Mandane;6321294]I believe she has a kid now and wants $ for babysitting as well as PPM. Avoid at all costs. Will try to hold you up for that babysitting money if you change plans. Even if its a meet and greet.[/QUOTE]Yes, to all this. Happy to share details.

Anyone met up with her? Decent coms so far but these young cute ones are always a gamble.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e6b1cb53-1548-47f9-ab85-1fcaf428d918[/URL]

Hellgirl is a scammer, chatted through snap for a few days and couldn't keep her story straight on why she needed money. Would often talk her self down from prices.

I will say though it was fun few days of chatting. Got some nudes for low cost. Got her on video doing some dirty things. Honestly it was so much fun I don't thing I mind the lost of the 50. It was rather entertaining. But just a head up to you all as well, that and seeking has been unusually good to me the last few weeks.

Here's the link:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e5133e97-4700-4a1d-9471-4d31884acc38[/URL]

Never met but texted extensively. NVCC student, lives in a very religious household, no transportation, requires cover.

[QUOTE=ArmyStrong;6322050]Meeting her over the weekend. Just wondering if anyone has met her before?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/695a0f20-36b9-426d-acd3-2402e5dde990[/URL][/QUOTE]

Its the same thing just escorts are more high volume. I happen to find one of my exSB went professional. I met her in 2020 as a Sugar Baby so don't know her as an escort, but her menu was wide open with me. CIP, Rimming, and Golden shower just to name a few of the things we did. We never did anal, because I'm not into it. I feel that SB let you get away with more kinky sex acts then an escort.

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/washington-dc/female-escorts/black_caribbean/generous-professionals-in-need/578763773066[/URL]

[QUOTE=Joe1278;6318585][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0ea38e34-430b-4303-8b74-35a6167f8c81[/URL]

[URL]https://www.worldescortshub.com/us/jacksonvilleflescorts/6ded1e8248cd11ecaabd2cea7fe04548[/UR]

I bought Pimeyes subscription to try out; it seems to be pretty good.[/QUOTE]

WTF happened to DC? Girls are just busted here.

The geriatrics are even online and I'm positive guys are paying for those cob web puss.

I can only dream of getting something decent.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2b1f04d4-57a3-4109-b105-14f9fa364b87[/URL]

Short messages on site saying she's not looking for a relationship. Get to text and first message she sends it "700 per hr incall".

Is she doing some kind of bit?

At some point someone lied to this poor woman and told her this was a good look. LOL WTF??

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0ec54b1d-8071-4b4b-b0c8-a8d788d6361f[/URL]

I have an absolute sweet heart of a girl that relocated to Alabama for work and is struggling financially. She's available for mostly virtual sessions like video calls and what not (if you're into that). She is also down for a FMTY. I can attach photos here and serious inquiries can PM me for her contact info. Please treat her well.

[quote=dimples572;6325674]is she doing some kind of bit?

At some point someone lied to this poor woman and told her this was a good look. Lol wtf??

[url]https://members.seeking.com/member/0ec54b1d-8071-4b4b-b0c8-a8d788d6361f[/url][/quote]holy shit!

What I want but I can't get!

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[QUOTE=TomFordModel;6327072]What I want but I can't get![/QUOTE]This chick looks very average to me. Fake with way too much makeup. I have found a lot of great women on Seeking in DMV, but if that's your type, why don't you move to New York instead of sitting here complaining constantly?

Have any of you all used the site outside the US? I've had success once in Europe, and I so see they have SBs all over the world. Was just wondering if this was the best site outside the US, or if there are better places to look in Europe and Asia. Was planning to go visit both later this year.

An early 30's UTR in the suburbs is looking to meet a couple new SDs. I've known her for several years. Incredibly sweet and very open. Can't host and sometimes has transportation issues. Happy to connect anyone with her. DM me for more info. Priority to anyone who can make similar intro.

[QUOTE=Emesdee;6327869]Have any of you all used the site outside the US? .[/QUOTE]Yes its great in some parts of western europe for sure like germany, some parts of france etc.

Asia they have their own versions which are good. But they usually use apps like wechat line etc.

[QUOTE=Pathfinder04;6327853]This chick looks very average to me. Fake with way too much makeup. I have found a lot of great women on Seeking in DMV, but if that's your type, why don't you move to New York instead of sitting here complaining constantly?[/QUOTE]NYC ain't going to cut it for this one. He'll need to move to Poland!

[QUOTE=Emesdee;6327869]Have any of you all used the site outside the US? I've had success once in Europe, and I so see they have SBs all over the world. Was just wondering if this was the best site outside the US, or if there are better places to look in Europe and Asia. Was planning to go visit both later this year.[/QUOTE]I lived in Central / Eastern Europe for 3 years. Hookers are the easier route there, and $40-50 will get you pretty good and $100+ hot ass chicks. HMU and I'll be happy to direct you to the right sites.