Strip Club Reports

Had a horrible experience at Toychest last weekend when I visited Detroit. The first girl I had was a gem, great BBBJCIM for 1 bill. Got carried away and overlooked all the warning signs of a scamstress on the next one. My plan was to repeat with the first one but against my better judgement went with this Ukranian (she claimed to be but looked a little Persian) , stage name Sylvania. She is older, short and stout. She agreed to do the same as I got with the first one for same price. I needed some time so I had couple of drinks with her and paid for her drinks. Once we go in after paying for VIP, she wants me to pay first saying there have been some recent issues (another warning sign. Never pay first). I paid the 1 bill we agreed on and she does little bit of a teaser dance for a song and while I am waiting for her to start, she says that she cannot do anything but dance in the club and she meant to do other services outside the club. I was pissed, not a whole lot I could do, I was trying to at least get my 5 dances. At the end of the second song she says the dances are up and walks away. What a fucking *****!

I complained to the bouncers and they went got her and did some drama and twisted the story saying they only found 60 on her purse (yeah right) and she went halfway into the 3rd song and I asked for illegal services and she walked out (really?). She says the most she can return is $10. She had this crooked laugh like I am not going to get anywhere.

Well, I couldn't get over the whole thing and the insult to injuries and it screwed up my whole night. The first time I had busted under 2 mins as it had been a while and was looking forward for the second one. I was in no mood to go out and get more money. The following day I stopped by the Detroit Police station to complain about the scam without mentioning details, just said paid upfront and did not get the service. I clearly understood then how the Detroit police and strip clubs scratch each others back. The officer asked me to wait in the lobby and walked out of the building and actually calls up Toychest, wow. He then asks me to step outside and says he just spoke to the manager there and they remember me from last night and told him I had asked for sex, and so he cannot take a complaint. He says the manager asked me to come back there tonight and they will take care of me! Not sure what they meant but I did not go back. When I called Detroit Police first they gave me the run around saying that address belongs to Dearborn, I had to go in. Detroit is something else!

[QUOTE=kman1;1891446]Well, I couldn't get over the whole thing and the insult to injuries and it screwed up my whole night. The first time I had busted under 2 mins as it had been a while and was looking forward for the second one. I was in no mood to go out and get more money. The following day I stopped by the Detroit Police station to complain about the scam without mentioning details, just said paid upfront and did not get the service. I clearly understood then how the Detroit police and strip clubs scratch each others back. The officer asked me to wait in the lobby and walked out of the building and actually calls up Toychest, wow. He then asks me to step outside and says he just spoke to the manager there and they remember me from last night and told him I had asked for sex, and so he cannot take a complaint. He says the manager asked me to come back there tonight and they will take care of me! Not sure what they meant but I did not go back. When I called Detroit Police first they gave me the run around saying that address belongs to Dearborn, I had to go in. Detroit is something else![/QUOTE]You went to the police? I don't know if you broke a major forum rule or not, but take that incident as a learning experience! But don't ever talk to law enforcement about anything!

[QUOTE=kman1; 1891446]Had a horrible experience at Toychest last weekend when I visited Detroit. The first girl I had was a gem, great BBBJCIM for 1 bill. Got carried away and overlooked all the warning signs of a scamstress on the next one. My plan was to repeat with the first one but against my better judgement went with this Ukranian (she claimed to be but looked a little Persian) , stage name Sylvania. She is older, short and stout. She agreed to do the same as I got with the first one for same price. I needed some time so I had couple of drinks with her and paid for her drinks. Once we go in after paying for VIP, she wants me to pay first saying there have been some recent issues (another warning sign. Never pay first). I paid the 1 bill we agreed on and she does little bit of a teaser dance for a song and while I am waiting for her to start, she says that she cannot do anything but dance in the club and she meant to do other services outside the club. I was pissed, not a whole lot I could do, I was trying to at least get my 5 dances. At the end of the second song she says the dances are up and walks away. What a fucking *

I complained to the bouncers and they went got her and did some drama and twisted the story saying they only found 60 on her purse (yeah right) and she went halfway into the 3rd song and I asked for illegal services and she walked out (really?). She says the most she can return is $10. She had this crooked laugh like I am not going to get anywhere.

Well, I couldn't get over the whole thing and the insult to injuries and it screwed up my whole night. The first time I had busted under 2 mins as it had been a while and was looking forward for the second one. I was in no mood to go out and get more money. The following day I stopped by the Detroit Police station to complain about the scam without mentioning details, just said paid upfront and did not get the service. I clearly understood then how the Detroit police and strip clubs scratch each others back. The officer asked me to wait in the lobby and walked out of the building and actually calls up Toychest, wow. He then asks me to step outside and says he just spoke to the manager there and they remember me from last night and told him I had asked for sex, and so he cannot take a complaint. He says the manager asked me to come back there tonight and they will take care of me! Not sure what they meant but I did not go back. When I called Detroit Police first they gave me the run around saying that address belongs to Dearborn, I had to go in. Detroit is something else![/QUOTE]This is a joke, right?

[QUOTE=kman1; 1891446]Had a horrible experience at Toychest last weekend when I visited Detroit. The first girl I had was a gem, great BBBJCIM for 1 bill. Got carried away and overlooked all the warning signs of a scamstress on the next one. My plan was to repeat with the first one but against my better judgement went with this Ukranian (she claimed to be but looked a little Persian) , stage name Sylvania. She is older, short and stout. She agreed to do the same as I got with the first one for same price. I needed some time so I had couple of drinks with her and paid for her drinks. Once we go in after paying for VIP, she wants me to pay first saying there have been some recent issues (another warning sign. Never pay first). I paid the 1 bill we agreed on and she does little bit of a teaser dance for a song and while I am waiting for her to start, she says that she cannot do anything but dance in the club and she meant to do other services outside the club. I was pissed, not a whole lot I could do, I was trying to at least get my 5 dances. At the end of the second song she says the dances are up and walks away. What a fucking *

I complained to the bouncers and they went got her and did some drama and twisted the story saying they only found 60 on her purse (yeah right) and she went halfway into the 3rd song and I asked for illegal services and she walked out (really?). She says the most she can return is $10. She had this crooked laugh like I am not going to get anywhere.

Well, I couldn't get over the whole thing and the insult to injuries and it screwed up my whole night. The first time I had busted under 2 mins as it had been a while and was looking forward for the second one. I was in no mood to go out and get more money. The following day I stopped by the Detroit Police station to complain about the scam without mentioning details, just said paid upfront and did not get the service. I clearly understood then how the Detroit police and strip clubs scratch each others back. The officer asked me to wait in the lobby and walked out of the building and actually calls up Toychest, wow. He then asks me to step outside and says he just spoke to the manager there and they remember me from last night and told him I had asked for sex, and so he cannot take a complaint. He says the manager asked me to come back there tonight and they will take care of me! Not sure what they meant but I did not go back. When I called Detroit Police first they gave me the run around saying that address belongs to Dearborn, I had to go in. Detroit is something else![/QUOTE]WoW I'm not even from Detroit and I have to comment on this one The Police man what a wuss you better or need to get out of the game if you're running to Leo when you get scammed, buddy you aren't the only one to ever get taken in this game and you won't be the last, you better be glad you didn't go back to that club they probably really had something for you a knuckle sandwich. Grow up guy or get out the game, I'd be real surprised if anybody on the Detroit board ever give you any info, if you we're on the Cincinnati board I wouldn't.

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[QUOTE=Plumber2;1891587]LOL. I don't even know where to start with this one. You screwed up to begin with, and a lot of people might go to the bouncers too, but the police station? Really? In the wrong friggin city no less? You should have learned your lesson and kept your mouth shut.[/QUOTE]Agree you have to bite the bullet on this one. Cops don't need to be reminded about the goings on at the clubs. Post her name and your story (leave out the cops part) on all the websites and hurt her economically. Now we (at least Joe Dirt) knows who to avoid at all costs (was she Joe's midget?). But it was NOT "the wrong friggin city". It is clearly Detroit that the Toy Chest is located. They may say it is Dearborn to avoid the stigma, but it is Detroit. Their cops simply don't care, and I am suprised the cop actually called the club. Chalk it up to experience.

Regards,

Costanza

[QUOTE=RemoMask; 1889597]Went to sample the 10$ Monday night.

Sampled couple of talents. One with a tall black girl, she was nice to talk to and another booby tall black chic.

Then took Diana a bbw type of young girl. Thought of trying it once (I am not a bbw guy).

She said its her first month in the club and said she is doing her bachelors. Went to VIP booth and after two songs she asked me whether I would like to go for FS. She said. 8, once agreed, she cover my little head gave BJ and took k9 to finish. She took pounding. I gave her $.

I may not try bbw in future in sc (that's why I go there).

ENT. 05, drinks. 2, VIP tax. 1, fun1. 3, pizza. 05.

Overall OK trip with lack of talents. I was there at seven so not sure its timing.[/QUOTE]I also saw Diana earlier this week, talked a good game quoted. 8 for bbj and off we went. You know you picked a loser when your "bbj" starts off with a standing HJ. After finishing the lame "bbj / HJ" combo I give her. 87 and then she says I have to pay for the songs also! I was pissed but I didn't want to argue or get the bouncers involved over .6.

So I paid it, told her the stunt she pulled was BS and her services are lame and left. I frequent H8N and never had any drama with dancers and didn't want to start that night.

So unless you want a bbj that's about 45% HJ and have to pay for songs look else where.

After catching up on the forum I'm considering going to the police, that seems to be trending now lmao!

[QUOTE=TwoWheeler21; 1891382]I agree that it is a very solid report, especially this early in the game. I have to commend you on your reading retention skills. You are correct in not being too upset about the finish. CIM should be part of the negotiation if that is what you want. Negotiating more into the session for a reasonable rate (reasonable being what you are willing to pay) was also a veteran move. If in the middle of a session you see a way to enhance it for a few more bucks, go for it every time. As for FS in a club, you are doing very well to get it for under $. It can be done, especially at the end of dayshift when the girls have had a rough day, but it is tough, especially with the better looking girls.

As for worrying about paying too much, etc, RogerC is right. Don't worry about what other people think. You are mongering for you, not for anyone else. All we ask is that you post your experiences. Because of the forum you are mongering with more information and therefore more skill, but it is still for you. I get some flack every once in a while because I am willing to pay street girls for pictures. A lot of guys don't want to pay for pictures and say I spoil it for them. One of my hobbies outside of this hobby is photography, so it is worth it to me to pay for nude pics. If that makes people upset, too bad. This forum is supposed to be an exchange of information. It is not supposed to be a bunch of mongers banding together to hold prices down like a bunch of soccer moms. Welcome to the board, Elwood.

Stay safe out there[/QUOTE]Glad I could make a good first impression! Also, I appreciate the feedback (and from RogerC). Though I don't bank enough cash to make this a weekly hobby, I often frequent the Homebrew supply shop at Van Born And Tele, so knowing about about the late day shift tactic could very well come in handy. If you don't mind me asking, when does shift change generally happen?

Thanks,

-Elwood

[QUOTE=RemoMask; 1889597]Went to sample the 10$ Monday night.

Sampled couple of talents. One with a tall black girl, she was nice to talk to and another booby tall black chic.

Then took Diana a bbw type of young girl. Thought of trying it once (I am not a bbw guy).

She said its her first month in the club and said she is doing her bachelors. Went to VIP booth and after two songs she asked me whether I would like to go for FS. She said. 8, once agreed, she cover my little head gave BJ and took k9 to finish. She took pounding. I gave her $.

I may not try bbw in future in sc (that's why I go there).

ENT. 05, drinks. 2, VIP tax. 1, fun1. 3, pizza. 05.

Overall OK trip with lack of talents. I was there at seven so not sure its timing.[/QUOTE]I also saw Diana earlier this week, talked a good game quoted. 8 for bbj and off we went. You know you picked a loser when your "bbj" starts off with a standing HJ. After finishing the lame "bbj / HJ" combo I give her. 87 and then she says I have to pay for the songs also! I was pissed but I didn't want to argue or get the bouncers involved over. 6.

So I paid it, told her the stunt she pulled was BS and her services are lame and left. I frequent H8N and never had any drama with dancers and didn't want to start that night.

So unless you want a bbj that's about 45% HJ and have to pay for songs look else where.

After catching up on the forum I'm considering going to the police, that seems to be trending now lmao!

[QUOTE=Elwood88; 1892385]Glad I could make a good first impression! Also, I appreciate the feedback (and from RogerC). Though I don't bank enough cash to make this a weekly hobby, I often frequent the Homebrew supply shop at Van Born And Tele, so knowing about about the late day shift tactic could very well come in handy. If you don't mind me asking, when does shift change generally happen?

Thanks,

-Elwood[/QUOTE]Most clubs change shifts at 7:00, so getting there between 6 and 6:15 works good. The downside to this plan is that at a lot of clubs, the start of nightshift is pretty lame because not many girls are there yet. The girls tend to show up casually late, like 9:30 or so.

Stay safe out there

Never been here. Is it worth a try. Usually visit players but want to change it up. VIP tax?

I read on SCL that there is a McKenzie dancing at Flight Club. It sounds like it could be the McKenzie that I used to see at H8N and in Toledo. She was smoking hot latina, nice tan, ds enhanced, and very nice personality. Was periodically available for takeout service which was great.

Anyone seen this McKenzie and if it is the same McKenzie of a couple years ago? I would very much enjoy seeing her again.

Heading back to your fair town next week for one night. Looking for suggestions on where to play: BT, Flight Club or Toy Chest. Been to BT and FC many times, but was disappointed with both during a recent visit. How is Toy Chest? Thanks for any feedback.