Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Slarson;4597073]Was there about a year ago, first time visitor but was offered the $180 upstairs special. I was a little shocked by the cost, but yes that is out the door, at least for me and she didn't seem perturbed by no tip. It was a nice setting, 60 min, good massage, lots of teasing which resulted in a bit of a premature BBBJCIM situation. She was a trooper and took a little break to spit. Will be in town in a couple of months and its first on my list for a repeat visit. Going to do my best to last a little longer this time![/QUOTE]Yes out the door, I didn't tip. I've got BBJCIM and more.

[QUOTE=Stupitt;4599245]Yes out the door, I didn't tip. I've got BBJCIM and more.[/QUOTE]I visited this place a few times in the evening and there was always an older white gentlemen sitting inside. Not sure if he is the bodyguard but this was early last year.

[QUOTE=Stupitt;4599245]Yes out the door, I didn't tip. I've got BBJCIM and more.[/QUOTE]Went there a few nights ago, saw a cute (ish) viet in her 30's. Massage was weak, stayed fully clothed with very limited mutual touch. BBBJCIM was pretty good but not worth the $.

Lots of better options out there.

[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;4595563]As we kick off the new year in 2020 remember those parlors they gave excellent service but were forced to close in 2019.

Small businesses that were just trying to pursue the American dream were forced out of operation by the intrusion of a city government that does not give a fuck about the general welfare, health and happiness of its population.

When election time rolls around please vote out the cockroaches that are against women and minority businesses and vote out the government officials that approve of government intrusion in the personal activities of two consenting adults behind closed doors out of side of the public not harming anyone.[/QUOTE]I don't keep up with politics, in do look online to see what's going on with the massage parlor / LE crackdowns just to get some insight on what's going on. If you're so kind as to point out those roaches so that I know who to give the finger to, that'd be great LOL.

Happy New Years San Diego 2020

Enjoy the new massage parlor restrictions that are now in fact public law but stop to think what are these laws really achieving

San Diego is just the latest municipalities attempting to further restrict the interactions between two consenting adults behind closed doors, out of side of the general public.

The city considers this a "public nuisance" and yet they have to secretly send undercover agency in to find out if this "public nuisance " is occurring.

Commonsense would tell you that if you have to go that far out of your way to prove a "crime" of public nuisance it's not.

A "not-for-profit" organization called Polaris basically makes its money getting funding and support to combat this "issue" so they make a living at it and they have an agenda. They have gotten congressional funding to support this "anti-human" trafficking campaign, politicians love the idea that they're saving poor oppressed people.

Apparently police departments love the idea of arresting hundred pound50-year-old Asian females if they give a massage and touch a man's penis.

Instead of the cops fighting real crime, reducing actual physical threats to the population, they spend time and resources seeing if a girl touches a man's penis.

I will personally forever hold in contempt this misguided use of public resources.

On its surface Polaris, speaks to addressing human trafficking worldwide and that's an admirable and decent thing to advocate but the misrepresentation and out right lies used to change ordinances in the local domestic United States massage parlors is really where somebody's moralistic good intentions / their own believes intersections with the rights of people to live their lives the way they want to live. They would be better off to go after domestic housekeepers the massage parlor workers

A futile and unnecessary attempt at social control by making visit to massage parlor more expensive and restrictive.

Be clear right from the start look at all the cases in Seattle several cases in Florida (including the Kraft case) there is not one example of human trafficking. The final adjudication of these court cases confirms there is prostitution but no "human trafficking" is ever found.

Sane and rational people consider prostitution a victimless crime but nevertheless the stories of promote a battle on "human trafficking" and reality all they are doing is promoting overtime resources for law-enforcement to shut down small Woman owned minority business.

When you go to a small Asian massage parlor very good chance it is it's a woman from another country who is trying to pursue the American dream have a business take care of her children and take care of her parents they open a business that provides him the best returns for the limited skills they have in this culture.

Typically they don't read or write English particularly well and majority of them do not speak English very well but they're serving a valuable public need and service that obviously is not going to go away. Prohibition against alcohol was a failure, so was prohibition against marijuana. However this attempt at prohibition is against sex, a basic biological need and an important element in emotional and physical health.

I am a healthy adult male and I have a normal healthy sex drive. My body is hardwired for sex, sex is a underlying influence of all human interactions. Its a biological birthright To have sex. Normal healthy positive sexual interaction improves by psychological as well as my physical health. I also have the right to participate in sexual activity between two consenting adults.

For one hour I can have physical human contact with another human being. Psychologically as well as physiologically human contact is an essential element to maintain mental and physical health.

Human beings that are deprived of human contact inevitably suffer and in this modern society we have enough messed up people that allowing them the opportunity to experience human touch in and of it's self seems a positive not a negative.

However, the state and local governments have determine that it's a "public nuisance" that if I tip that girl for providing me a positive mental and physical benefit. If a woman massages my body for one hour and at the end of the massage manipulates my penis and I have an ejaculation, I have committed a crime.

Sexual release as many well-documented medical benefits to my prostate and my heart but in the wisdom of government this action is a "public nuisance" and a crime. If I had a camera running and was filming it and sold it as pornography fee it would be legal.

Just think how twisted this thought process is, your elected city government is promoting shutting down massage parlors as public law.

Take away the big lie" human trafficking this is an issue of interfering with the consensual activity of two adults. Nobody forces me to get a massage and nobody forces a girl to give me a massage but what we do behind closed doors is not the governments business. The government does not regulate my other bodily functions such as sneezing or defecating in private so why do they have such a interest in my sexual activities.

Be clear your city government is lying when they say that this is to stop human trafficking, it's only intended to stop the sexual interaction between two consenting adults.

Referenced in the newspaper articles on the subject at the time of the vote was the following These changes are proven to help combat human trafficking while making sure we protect important and legitimate massage therapy professionals, said Councilman Chris Cate before the committee vote.

Tell the city Council that prohibition of sex and human contact is wrong

[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;4600700]
Referenced in the newspaper articles on the subject at the time of the vote was the following These changes are proven to help combat human trafficking while making sure we protect important and legitimate massage therapy professionals, said Councilman Chris Cate before the committee vote.
[/QUOTE]There it is. The legitimate massage industry is bankrolling the new legislation to cut down on competition. Follow the money; it's always about the $$.

[QUOTE=Dream619;4596840]Any good places in El cajon or lakeside?[/QUOTE]I'd tell ya, but you've never posted anything but "Where's a good this or that?" Start posting some of your experiences and maybe some people will help you out.

[QUOTE=Panther2287;4597520]Fake Pictures.

I figured but had to try. Walked through door, outside of being a female pictures are not even close, so I the used the blame work / my boss just called excuse and was on my way.

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/153575[/URL][/QUOTE]I was also interested because of the pictures. I texted the number twice and asked about her P411 and other sites that she said she is verified through. I asked if her pictures are real, etc.

No response, or reply back to my texts. Thanks for confirming the pictures are fake.

Is there any place that offers same service smile spa does? After a couple reviews I've seen at another site I've been skeptical taking my chances coming back to see if the two ladies are officially not working there anymore.

Happy new year everyone!

[QUOTE=DeadHeadChevy;4453024]Ada works at "UMassage" in Spring Valley, you're thinking of "you-Spa" in Lemon Grove.

"you-Spa" does not have a Ts, only a stand up, both are owned by the same lady I believe.[/QUOTE]So I was in the east county area and decided to stop in to a location mentioned. Called both UMassage and You Spa and ask who was working. The response I got from both places was Wendy and Ada. Haha Must be true the same person owns both, because the lady on the phone sounded alike. But if the shops names weren't confusing enough, they had to add that both location have the same girls working.

Decided to check out the spring valley location. Very small place and requested to see who was available. I ended up going with Ada over Wendy only because she looks a little younger. Had a very lackluster massage, which really set the mood to boring as hell. Couldn't wait to leave. Finish with the norm and will certainly not return. I didn't expect much for being in spring valley, but I'm sure others enjoyed their experience.

I had been to what was previously V Spa a few times. Read reports that the place closed but a new one opened right next door so went to check it out. Paid. 6 for the hr, but probably should've gone with half.

Didn't get to see any lineup, was greeted and then serviced by Feifei. Short Chinese spinner with big boobs, probably in her mid-late 30's. Pretty to look at but not a lot of ass like I like. The massage itself was mediocre, but she knows that, so she quickly got to the meat of the argument and we agreed on BJ for 1. I was hoping to get BBBJ but no luck with her. She started working on it and we ended up doing 69. Was taking a while with the cover so she ended up finishing me with an HJ.

Overall it wasn't too bad, but probably won't repeat for her. May repeat to see who else they have on offer, since I have had a few great experiences at V spa.

A google image search reveals that the pictures are of Jenna Kaey, a very attractive woman. I doubt that she posted the ad.

[URL]https://www.pinterest.com/32321190o/jenna-kaey/[/URL]

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;4601460]I was also interested because of the pictures. I texted the number twice and asked about her P411 and other sites that she said she is verified through. I asked if her pictures are real, etc.

No response, or reply back to my texts. Thanks for confirming the pictures are fake.[/QUOTE]

Unique massage has moved to 3709 convoy st. Mamasan said the same girls are working. Cheers!

Has anyone ever caught anything from girls at massage parlors or independents? Seems like a lot are offering BBBJ etc nowadays LOL.

[QUOTE=SnowGuy07;4602554]Has anyone ever caught anything from girls at massage parlors or independents? Seems like a lot are offering BBBJ etc nowadays LOL.[/QUOTE]Getting a BBBJ is risky.

[QUOTE=SnowGuy07;4602554]Has anyone ever caught anything from girls at massage parlors or independents? Seems like a lot are offering BBBJ etc nowadays LOL.[/QUOTE]If you have concerns. Don't do anything without a cover, and understand that even with a cover there are risks for other types of unpleasant stuff too.

Hi all,

New year means trying something new.

Just wondering if anyone has any inputs on this one.

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/156479[/URL]

Pics look good but figured community help is better.

[QUOTE=MartinMars14;4603949]Hi all,

New year means trying something new.

Just wondering if anyone has any inputs on this one.

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/156479[/URL]

Pics look good but figured community help is better.[/QUOTE]I have seen her a few times! She is a great time and well worth it! Mid 30's Latina that loves what she does!!

[QUOTE=Ronald9;4603521]Getting a BBBJ is risky.[/QUOTE]No risk, no reward.

First time going to Z's Massage. Got "lulu" mid 30's. She has natural B cup. Opted for an hour and right off the bat she started with the teasing. Nice body for sure. Asked for medium massage and she delivered. My back cracked a couple of times. On the flip right away without negotiation she pulls her top up to reveal some nice naturals. Smell like heaven. Couple of times kissing my cheeks and behind my ears while making sounds. Allowed otc rubbing the kitty as much as I wanted. Very enthusiastic. Standard he. . 4 to the house. 6 for her.

Will return to see Anna. Heard good things about her.

[QUOTE=SnowGuy07;4602554]Has anyone ever caught anything from girls at massage parlors or independents? Seems like a lot are offering BBBJ etc nowadays LOL.[/QUOTE]Like the others have said, BBBJ's are nice but obviously there are risks.

Not trying to lecture you on hygiene issues, but I use the common sense approach. Not 100% foolproof, but has worked for me.

Also, does not just apply to lingering, but you get the drift.

When in doubt, wrap that rascal.

Cold sores, could be a warning sign.

Get checked out if you're not sure.

Clean clean clean.

Guys can add whatever, but it's just common sense.

With nice rewards, there are risks and definitely any type of BB activities are obviously the riskiest.

But to answer your question directly, I haven't heard of any widespread issues, but then again you probably wouldn't.

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[QUOTE=JTug235;4604631]First time going to Z's Massage. Got "lulu" mid 30's. She has natural B cup. Opted for an hour and right off the bat she started with the teasing. Nice body for sure. Asked for medium massage and she delivered. My back cracked a couple of times. On the flip right away without negotiation she pulls her top up to reveal some nice naturals. Smell like heaven. Couple of times kissing my cheeks and behind my ears while making sounds. Allowed otc rubbing the kitty as much as I wanted. Very enthusiastic. Standard he. . 4 to the house. 6 for her.

Will return to see Anna. Heard good things about her.[/QUOTE]Anna is always wonderful to me, she's my all-time favorite. No full-service, CBJ, or BBBJ is available at Z's from anyone, don't even ask.

Anyone seen any of these ladies before? They are more in my neck of the woods.

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/158459[/URL]

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/158422[/URL]

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/156034[/URL]

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/155774[/URL]

[QUOTE=Marcsd88;4605633]Anyone seen any of these ladies before? They are more in my neck of the woods.

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/158459[/URL]

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/158422[/URL]

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/156034[/URL]

[URL]https://sandiego.rubratings.com/155774[/URL][/QUOTE]You'd think at least one of them would use pics that weren't easily traced to an instagram model.

Has anyone checked out Level 2 Spa on Friars Road across the street from Black Angus? I'm thinking about TOFTT this weekend. However, if anyone has any intel to share it will be greatly appreciated.

I called and was told they have 6 girls working there. They are running a 1-hour Combo special for $30; 30 minutes body and 30 minutes foot.

Has anybody noticed or felt any difference now that LE is supposedly cracking down on these massage shops?

Haven't had the chance to go this year, but I was wondering if there needs to be extra? Caution.

I know the one on CMB and Convoy. They're pretty must a waste of time insisting on 60 tips before the massage. Must be new, I drive by there frequently. Please do report!

[QUOTE=MichelOb;4607599]I know the one on CMB and Convoy. They're pretty must a waste of time insisting on 60 tips before the massage. Must be new, I drive by there frequently. Please do report![/QUOTE]I am aware of the Level 2 on Convoy and CMB as well, but I believed that one is called Level 2 Massage so I'm not sure if they are owned by the same person.

TOFTT at Level 2 Spa on Friars today. I went with their $30 Combo special, 30 minutes body and 30 minutes foot. I got Victoria. She's probably in her 30's. Average body, and petite. The 30 minutes body massage is with me on my stomach. Decent massage and pressure. My arms were hanging down the side of the table. She brushed up on my hands / arm several times but I didn't rubbed or touched her back because she wasn't my type and I was happy with just the therapeutic massage. After about 20 minutes, she left and came back with hot stones and used them on my back and legs. It felt great. After the 30 minutes she had me flip over and kept the full bath towel on me. She did my face, neck and shoulders for about 10 minutes before going to my feet. She did the feet for about 15 minutes, then legs for 5 minutes to end the hour. A quick clean up with a warm towel and my hour was complete. Overall, I received a good massage. $30/ hour house fee, and $20 tip.

Victoria kept the room door cracked open slightly during most of the hour. Another AMP did the same thing as well. I wonder if this has to do with the new requirements for AMPs where they can't lock the doors.

I'm not sure if any extras are offered here. I may repeat again and see if there is another masseuse more my type. At least I know I can get a decent massage for an hour and only $50 out the door.

The room is nicely equipped with towels, oil, lotion and is very clean.

Hi All -.

I appreciate the advice / suggestions / tips I received and have read on this forum. I am usually working from mid-morning to pretty much late-evening, so I'm usually not home / available till sometime after 10 or so. I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on providers that are available generally at this time of the day. I'm located in central SD. I would appreciate suggestions, advice on where to search, and any other help.

Thank you, and happy new year!

[QUOTE=AJaxer11;4607852]Hi All -.

I appreciate the advice / suggestions / tips I received and have read on this forum. I am usually working from mid-morning to pretty much late-evening, so I'm usually not home / available till sometime after 10 or so. I was wondering if anyone has suggestions on providers that are available generally at this time of the day. I'm located in central SD. I would appreciate suggestions, advice on where to search, and any other help.

Thank you, and happy new year![/QUOTE]My worry would be that it's late and for the most part it's almost a given that if an AMP is open late, there may be some illicit activities going on. I read a little about the bill they're passing and it mentioned that along with front doors that only allow you in when they buzz you in, closed windows on the front. And entrances through the back. Kinda worries me since I go in through the back. I been a bit paranoid lately since idk how they're going to crack down on AMPs.

[QUOTE=LycosJoe;4607488]Has anybody noticed or felt any difference now that LE is supposedly cracking down on these massage shops?

Haven't had the chance to go this year, but I was wondering if there needs to be extra? Caution.[/QUOTE]I'm wondering the same. I been sceptical to go because of these dumb ass laws.

Does anyone know their procedure? Or heard of how they go about doing it? I'm curious to know how they'll catch someone or if they've caught someone mid act. I'd hate to be in that situation, got too much to lose. OK if needed. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Zehe123;4608956]Does anyone know their procedure? Or heard of how they go about doing it? I'm curious to know how they'll catch someone or if they've caught someone mid act. I'd hate to be in that situation, got too much to lose. OK if needed. Thanks.[/QUOTE]This is how it goes down.

[URL]https://southpark.cc.com/clips/251898/sting-operation[/URL]

Be careful out there.

That South Park clip about sums it all up as far as Im concerned

I remember years ago when they were actually street walkers on El Cajon Blvd, how they would set up the stings trying to catch "John's" approaching the under covers. It was quite a big scene you could see the RV with the lights on the side street processing all the customers taken in by the Sting.

I think a couple of times over the last couple of years they have run hotel stings (North county and in San Diego Mission Valley area) but to my knowledge nobody has run sting operation through an AMP in San Diego.

If you're visiting a hotel independent, you really are taking more risk simply because you don't know who is in the other rooms or who is in the next room waiting. Couple of times I've checked the bathroom first just because it personally creeps me out that somebody could be there while I am in the middle of the "act". That's the kind a scenario where I'm not worried about the cops but just more worried about getting robbed by some crackhead.

If you visit a well-established traditional AMP this kind of risk seems nonexistent. Note, it's another good argument for the legalization or at least the decriminalization of prostitution because there really is no sensible reason why sex should be criminalized in the first place.

Personally because of bad service and history of getting ripped off I have avoided independents and tend to stay with well-established brick and mortar AMPs in San Diego.

In San Jose area, the hotel or apartment in call services are the best bang for the buck and the actual well established AMP's offer pretty shitty service.

Just be careful, times are changing, if the city really does crack down on massage parlors with the new laws trys to emulate San Jose A lot of parlors will be shut down and the service provider model will change.

They're not going to get rid of sexual interactions between people theyre just gonna change the way it happens, it will go on the streets, itll go into the hotels instead of the legitimate established businesses . I think it will become more unsafe for both the providers and the customers it’s definitely increasing the risk to everybody

each and every time you approach a situation think it through but I think the risk to being caught up in a sting as a customer is still very low.

I still feel the providers are the ones that experienced the most severe penalties in these crack downs on human sexuality.

The fact that Minority ( typically Asian ) women who are providers bear the brunt of law-enforcement activity is the real tragedy in the story. Women who usually have limited English skills and who are offering a simple therapeutic hand job to a customer, face The loss of a green card or deportation/ jail time and fines.

The penalties they face are so disproportionate to the real social impact of the crimes that theyre charged with.
These are just human beings trying to make a living. They are mothers, daughters, girlfriends and wives trying to support families and yet in the eyes of law-enforcement they are criminals who need to be punished

change the insane laws against human sexuality and focused limited government resources on real crimes and not to criminalize the actions of consenting adults in the privacy behind closed doors


[QUOTE=NudeBeachPerv;4609093]This is how it goes down.

[URL]https://southpark.cc.com/clips/251898/sting-operation[/URL]

Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueSkyBlue;4609221]That South Park clip about sums it all up as far as Im concerned

I remember years ago when they were actually street walkers on El Cajon Blvd, how they would set up the stings trying to catch "John's" approaching the under covers. It was quite a big scene you could see the RV with the lights on the side street processing all the customers taken in by the Sting.

I think a couple of times over the last couple of years they have run hotel stings (North county and in San Diego Mission Valley area) but to my knowledge nobody has run sting operation through an AMP in San Diego.

If you're visiting a hotel independent, you really are taking more risk simply because you don't know who is in the other rooms or who is in the next room waiting. Couple of times I've checked the bathroom first just because it personally creeps me out that somebody could be there while I am in the middle of the "act". That's the kind a scenario where I'm not worried about the cops but just more worried about getting robbed by some crackhead.

If you visit a well-established traditional AMP this kind of risk seems nonexistent. Note, it's another good argument for the legalization or at least the decriminalization of prostitution because there really is no sensible reason why sex should be criminalized in the first place.

Personally because of bad service and history of getting ripped off I have avoided independents and tend to stay with well-established brick and mortar AMPs in San Diego.

In San Jose area, the hotel or apartment in call services are the best bang for the buck and the actual well established AMP's offer pretty shitty service.

Just be careful, times are changing, if the city really does crack down on massage parlors with the new laws trys to emulate San Jose A lot of parlors will be shut down and the service provider model will change.

They're not going to get rid of sexual interactions between people theyre just gonna change the way it happens, it will go on the streets, itll go into the hotels instead of the legitimate established businesses . I think it will become more unsafe for both the providers and the customers its definitely increasing the risk to everybody [/QUOTE]Haha, yes that south Park clip was funny. I almost thought it was a joke. But I'm aware of those types of stings. The AMP stings is the ones I was worried about. I don't want to go in there and then get cought up when we both agree the pricing for the extras or something of that nature.

I am hoping someone can give me some suggestions or advice. Next week, I will be back in San Diego for the first time in about 3 years. Last time I was there, I RTTF and had a fairly nice experience at Pine and reported about it. I am wondering if a repeat visit this time is still my best option. Now, it seems like most of the really good providers may only be available through Humaniplex, and I am not familiar with it. The $25 does not bother me, but is this something I should pursue since I have only this one visit planned? Or, does anyone have better or other suggestions? My free time will be daytime only, if that makes a difference. Thanks in advance for any suggestions / advice. I know this sort of crosses into other forums such as the escort section, so I will post it there, too.

[QUOTE=Zehe123;4608937]I'm wondering the same. I been sceptical to go because of these dumb ass laws.[/QUOTE]If you visit well-established traditional AMPs I think your risk is nonexistent. The masseuses at these places will probably all have their massage licenses so I think LE will only do their yearly checks on them. If all the girls have their licenses there would be no basis for LE to say the girls are being forced to work so these well established AMPs are low risks. I visit AMPs once or twice per week and am not worried.

I would be more cautious with AMPs that you know offers a wide menu. I'm sure many of the girls there do not have their massage licenses so I think the focus for LE will be more on them.

At an established AMP (especially one I had visited before) I personally wouldn't worry that much about a sting.

Unless there were non Asians there or suddenly the girls were new and look different and spoke very good English.

Remember it's not a crime to go for a massage. It's not illegal to be inside a massage parlor.

Unless you state that you're willing to pay for a specific amount of payment for a specific act, there's not a crime. You are just there for a relaxing therapeutic massage

I think it's more difficult to prove that you're soliciting prostitution if you don't say anything. If you are worried use hand gestures (like four or five fingers what are you willing to tip) or a pumping gesture to indicate interest in extras but if you repeatedly visit a few of the same AMPs you would probably notice if something was different.

[QUOTE=Zehe123;4609503]Haha, yes that south Park clip was funny. I almost thought it was a joke. But I'm aware of those types of stings. The AMP stings is the ones I was worried about. I don't want to go in there and then get cought up when we both agree the pricing for the extras or something of that nature.[/QUOTE]

Go ahead and visit a massage parlor.

Don't let Government change your life with fear and intimidation.

[QUOTE=Zehe123;4608937]I'm wondering the same. I been sceptical to go because of these dumb ass laws.[/QUOTE]