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[QUOTE=Spongebob357;2853886]Thanks for all of the valuable info on tipping etc. Just wondered who the top massage providers are now, who would you recommend.
Thanks in advance.
Bob.[/QUOTE]Bob, despite what a few say, Panacea is a good visit. You should call ahead and ask who is available, and then schedule a time with a girl who has a good rep. There are several there who offer exactly what Natasha does, and Aliese and Natalie did. But it's not worth a first timer's dollar to just try whoever they give you.
They run the business well, and you know what to expect. Plus they don't pressure for upsell tips at all.
You should know, from the many recent complaints, that they recently started encouraging guys to leave a tip out at the start, so they know to start the erotic part early in the massage. But if you'd rather wait till then end, just say so. Say you want the whole erotic experience, but since you haven't had a session with the girl yet, you'd rather wait to see just what the experience is like. These girls are very reasonable and good at what they do, and they will roll with that.
A few of the haters here think that if a girl will touch your nether regions, that automatically means she's open for FS, Greek, followed by BBBJCIM W / S for $20, and anyone who's not has GPS. That's why there has been so much noise on this fine establishment lately.
Ignore that, they are worth a visit. Unless you want FS, BJ, or such, because that is not on the menu there.
PM me if you need a short list of the best current ladies at Panacea.
There are a number of traditional rub and tug joints in GR, and a few AMPs. Others will have to opine there, cause that is not my scene.
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[QUOTE=Tom70;2854016]Bob, despite what a few say, Panacea is a good visit. You should call ahead and ask who is available, and then schedule a time with a girl who has a good rep. There are several there who offer exactly what Natasha does, and Aliese and Natalie did. But it's not worth a first timer's dollar to just try whoever they give you.
They run the business well, and you know what to expect. Plus they don't pressure for upsell tips at all.
You should know, from the many recent complaints, that they recently started encouraging guys to leave a tip out at the start, so they know to start the erotic part early in the massage. But if you'd rather wait till then end, just say so. Say you want the whole erotic experience, but since you haven't had a session with the girl yet, you'd rather wait to see just what the experience is like. These girls are very reasonable and good at what they do, and they will roll with that.
A few of the haters here think that if a girl will touch your nether regions, that automatically means she's open for FS, Greek, followed by BBBJCIM W / S for $20, and anyone who's not has GPS. That's why there has been so much noise on this fine establishment lately.
Ignore that, they are worth a visit. Unless you want FS, BJ, or such, because that is not on the menu there.
PM me if you need a short list of the best current ladies at Panacea.
There are a number of traditional rub and tug joints in GR, and a few AMPs. Others will have to opine there, cause that is not my scene.[/QUOTE]I agree with Tom about Panacea. They are my fave too though I haven't been in a bit. I'm sad to hear about the new tip before you play policy if that is true, but they do have the babes!
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[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;2854068]I agree with Tom about Panacea. They are my fave too though I haven't been in a bit. I'm sad to hear about the new tip before you play policy if that is true, but they do have the babes![/QUOTE]If you really don't want to lay down a 20 at the start, as a matter of your "principles" or because you are new to the joint and not familiar with their level of service, just tell the girl you'd rather tip at the end.
One of the consistent standards there is no tipping pressure. They will go for that. And any girl who doesn't tow that company line will have a very short tenure.
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Massuse
[QUOTE=LuvRubs;2853948]Well I really hate to change the subject from such an interesting conversation, but here is a review of this MP. Legit therapeutic massage only. No HE. Bummer. The half of the body not worked on is covered with a sheet. Need I go on? I will say Chari is more beautiful in person than her pics, gives intense work to the massage.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/the-island-of-relaxation-studio-by-beautiful-asian/14429765[/URL][/QUOTE]I did comment about 2 weeks ago that she is a good massuse. I saw her at her home North of GR and no extras were Avilable. Sorry you missed that comment, post # 3969. I would repeat, she gave an excellent massage, you can tell she is a CMT. As I have mentioned before, I see an escort for the extras.
Happy Hunting.
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[QUOTE=Tom70;2854175]If you really don't want to lay down a 20 at the start, as a matter of your "principles" or because you are new to the joint and not familiar with their level of service, just tell the girl you'd rather tip at the end.
One of the consistent standards there is no tipping pressure. They will go for that. And any girl who doesn't tow that company line will have a very short tenure.[/QUOTE]I'm not following. It's not $20 mandatory tip, it's $40 mandatory tip for HH, $60 mandatory tip for full H. Are you saying that you just have to say you don't want to do it upfront at that rate, but you'll do it later at that rate if you're fully satisfied?
I think making it $40/$40, $60/$60 bare minimum, Upfront is tipping Pressure. Even if you can end up lobbying not to take your tip upfront.
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[QUOTE=LuvRubs;2853948]Well I really hate to change the subject from such an interesting conversation, but here is a review of this MP. Legit therapeutic massage only. No HE. Bummer. The half of the body not worked on is covered with a sheet. Need I go on? I will say Chari is more beautiful in person than her pics, gives intense work to the massage.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/the-island-of-relaxation-studio-by-beautiful-asian/14429765[/URL][/QUOTE]Man, I loves me some Asian! Good looking Lady. I appreciate a good Legit massage on occasion, but if I saw Chari, I know I wouldn't behave myself. Thanks for the report LR. Scratching her off my to do list. Bummer!
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[QUOTE=Benz1;2853945]Maybe NJ could make a short list send it to himself and then forward it to the seniors or whoever he wants. He will not have to keep typing it if he sends it to himself and the forward can be sent to multiple requests at one time. Don't forget to tell your massuse that you were refered by NJ. Maybe he will get an extra kiss for his troubles.
Thanks NJ for keeping us informed on the good ones.[/QUOTE]I appreciate the updated info as the massage scene changes rapidly. I come up from Kazoo (since Synergy stopped offering appointments) the kazoo scene is zero, so maximizing my time and dollars is important to me. Recently I did have a great experience at Spring Spa in BC, but once again the masseuse there has moved on so they are back to the standard fare.
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[QUOTE=Spongebob357;2855078]I come up from Kazoo (since Synergy stopped offering appointments)[/QUOTE]Synergy! WoW that's a blast from the past. Welcome to GR Bob.
NJ.
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Panacea
[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;2854068]I agree with Tom about Panacea. They are my fave too though I haven't been in a bit. I'm sad to hear about the new tip before you play policy if that is true, but they do have the babes![/QUOTE]Who are the best girls at Panacea? Thanks!
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Contrary to some of the rumors around here, I am not, nor ever was, a part owner of Panacea!
NJ.
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[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2855165]Synergy! WoW that's a blast from the past. Welcome to GR Bob.
NJ.[/QUOTE]Thanks NJ, yes I am old enough to have been a member on every old board.
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[QUOTE=Spongebob357;2855666]Thanks NJ, yes I am old enough to have been a member on every old board.[/QUOTE]Synergy continued things under a different name later working out of some spiritual healing / massage type of place a few years back too.
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[QUOTE=MusicBoss10;2855302]Who are the best girls at Panacea? Thanks![/QUOTE]I think we all can agree that Natasha is hands down the best at Panacea! She really does have it all. Great attitude, good massage, beautiful, roaming is great and gets even better with each visit and she gets explosive endings out of you everytime! Natalie was nice though no longer there as well as Aliese was pretty good. Tia gets high marks as well as most of the girls there. You almost can't go wrong there as long as this whole tip before the session doesn't take hold.
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Rumors
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2855625]Contrary to some of the rumors around here, I am not, nor ever was, a part owner of Panacea!
NJ.[/QUOTE]Its a good thing you're not an onwer. With this new tipping policy, it won't be long before you can buy that place for a song and dance.
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Panacea
I might be the odd guy out here, or just a guy who ain't afraid to call it as he sees it, but I don't see anything special about the girls at Panacea other than Natasha, and she's hands down the best I've had. Over the years I've read the superlatives on Natalie and others and never found any of them to be near what the press releases indicated. Could just be a matter of different strokes for different folks, or it could just be over-effusive promoters pumping a favorite girl or favorite parlor. I've been there a dozen times and other than Natasha it's been average and in a couple instances below average experience, so for my money I think there are a couple over-enthusiastic promoters at play here.