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[QUOTE=HoldenCaul;4126951]I quit going there a year or so ago for this very reason. Many better options out there. BT's, LS, Cricket, to name a few.[/QUOTE]My gf used to dance at a local club and never did any extras much to the chagrin if many guys. Had limits and just refused to do anything but dance. Maybe that's what's happening to you. Or something else.
JJ, Thanks for another spot-on review. I've been trying to connect with Raquel for a while but keeping missing her. It's good to know that her rate is reasonable. Do you know what days of week she works there?
[QUOTE=PineappleKing;4127124]Does anyone ever go by themselves? I don't see the need to bring other people if you are solely there for the "extras". I can't imagine the dancers care either.[/QUOTE]Honestly, I can't go to the SC with anyone I know, and I'm sure it's the same for the majority of mongers here: this is our second identity.
I have gone to the SC with another person only once, and that was with a UTR who was willing to please me by going with me into the back at H8 N with a girl we both agreed upon.
[QUOTE=PineappleKing;4127124]Does anyone ever go by themselves? I don't see the need to bring other people if you are solely there for the "extras". I can't imagine the dancers care either.[/QUOTE]It really is pretty common to visit these type of establishments by one's self. If you have a wingman, it can be good to visit with him and break apart or re-join as the situation warrants. I use to have a few really good wingman, but they are out of the "game" now unfortunately. So yes, about 90% of my visits have been solo in recent years.
You also need not feel obligated to spend a lot or really amount of money at the clubs. Many times, I have only spent on a cover & 1 drink before leaving.
[QUOTE=Rainman5000;4128024]It really is pretty common to visit these type of establishments by one's self. If you have a wingman, it can be good to visit with him and break apart or re-join as the situation warrants. I use to have a few really good wingman, but they are out of the "game" now unfortunately. So yes, about 90% of my visits have been solo in recent years.
You also need not feel obligated to spend a lot or really amount of money at the clubs. Many times, I have only spent on a cover & 1 drink before leaving.[/QUOTE]Cover, valet and a beer runs upwards of $40 whereas arriving right before 7 gives you free cover and the bucket special plus valet. Four extra beers for the same $40.
[QUOTE=RockHard403;4127848]My gf used to dance at a local club and never did any extras much to the chagrin if many guys. Had limits and just refused to do anything but dance. Maybe that's what's happening to you. Or something else.[/QUOTE]The "something else" that's currently happening is that I no longer frequent FC due to GPS and / or lack of extras. To your point, it is possible that every single dancer there is someone's GF and has "limits", but I wouldn't know.
[QUOTE=RockHard403;4127848]My gf used to dance at a local club and never did any extras much to the chagrin if many guys. Had limits and just refused to do anything but dance. Maybe that's what's happening to you. Or something else.[/QUOTE]Dude.
Are you sure? Did you ever wonder how she made so much in tips? Did she have a stage name? We can confirm her level of participation.
[QUOTE=RollingStoner;4129214]Dude.
Are you sure? Did you ever wonder how she made so much in tips? Did she have a stage name? We can confirm her level of participation.[/QUOTE]I'm sure because she said she didn't make as much as some other girls for that reason and she only worked 2 days and said she'd never go back.
[QUOTE=RockHard403;4127848]My gf used to dance at a local club and never did any extras much to the chagrin if many guys. Had limits and just refused to do anything but dance. Maybe that's what's happening to you. Or something else.[/QUOTE]You CANNOT be serious. If she worked there for any length of time and is even remotely attractive. I digress. I've been seeing a girl at FC since about September, she was 20 when I first met her, told me all about her boyfriend and how he knew she danced there, even dropped her off some days, but she told him guys paid her to hang out and talk. Day one was BBBJCIM, day two was BBFSCIV. I don't even ask what she tells him when she comes to my house at 10 o'clock at night now. But I've yet to reach her "limits".
[QUOTE=RockHard403;4127848]
My gf used to dance at a local club and never did any extras much to the chagrin if many guys. Had limits and just refused to do anything but dance. Maybe that's what's happening to you. Or something else.
[/QUOTE]It's not Uncommon, to find one or two girls at the clubs, who will NOT do extras.
I have a friend who dances and she NEVER done extras. She understands she's losing out on money, but she enjoys dancing and just doing lap dances in the VIP.
Yes, we all doubt them when they say, No Extras. But there are some, who are very attractive, that can survive on not compromising themselves and able to get by on the little money they make.
If you want extras, you just move on.
Otherwise, you can just have fun with some sexy lap dances, from a Hottie.
[QUOTE=RollingStoner;4129214]Dude.
Are you sure? Did you ever wonder how she made so much in tips? Did she have a stage name? We can confirm her level of participation.[/QUOTE]I'm a bit of a SC regular, and I can tell you about at least three dancers I've gotten to know well enough that they've told me their SO had no idea what they actually did in the club beyond dancing. I always wondered how someone could so easily draw an imaginary line in their head for their GF's behavior as a dancer. It doesn't take a genius to get that they are probably doing more than just dance, if they're bringing home the proverbial bacon. Don't want to know how they got it, don't ask.
Or get a real job yourself and offer to support her so she doesn't have to dance. Now there's a novel idea.
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[QUOTE=RockHard403;4127848]My gf used to dance at a local club and never did any extras much to the chagrin if many guys. Had limits and just refused to do anything but dance. Maybe that's what's happening to you. Or something else.[/QUOTE]This is one of the things that makes the Detroit club scene so good.
First most girls do extras.
Second most girls when they start don't plan to be doing extras.
Every club has some girls who only dance. It could be they only work a few days or few weeks, or they can actually make enough money just dancing because, they have another job, they live with their parents, they live with their boyfriend.
Every club has some girls who will do FS with any guy.
In between there is a whole range of girls. There are girls who only do HJ, who only do BJ, who only do CBJ, who do FS with only a hand full of guys who are their regulars.
When girls first start dancing they are typically shocked and revolted by the things guys ask them to do and for the money they are offering.
As they get socialized those things become less shocking, and frequently the money is needed for people who can't or won't hold down a job flipping burgers or folding sweaters.
One of the most enjoyable activities is taking a non extras girl and getting to be her first BJ or her first FS. Frequently girls will have orgasms there first time if the guys is willing to get them warmed up. Typically a girl will do her first time with a guy she is comfortable with and likes more than the other guys and respected her no extras boundary when she was a clean girl.
The longer and longer a girl works her sessions become less enjoyable and more mechanical and frequently she will start club hopping because she doesn't have enough regulars at her current / initial club.
Yes it takes some time and some patience and you have to be kind of a nice to achieve this. It is your decision if it is worth it for you. For me I enjoy it, and if you don't you can wait for someone to get her to do her first extra, and then you can be number 100 or 1000.
MM.
Cold lineup of seven dancers. Maybe ten customers.
1. Angel. Latino Big tits and she's putting on weight. 6 appearance She quoted me 400 a couple years back. I just laughed and said who the fuck pays that. So.
2. Star white blonde nice looking mid 20's great body 7. 5 appearance. Did not get a chance to talk to her so not sure what's on menu if any.
3. Red slender late 20's AA 6 appearance.
4. Nice looking mid 20's AA can't remember her name 7. 5 appearance long hair nice c cups but she dissapeared in dressing room. Was going for that but she never came back out or I missed her.
5. Cheyenne white early 20's redish hair b tits descent body. She asked if I wanted to do her I asked how much will that cost. She said 250 I just giggled no I'm good. I did not try negotiating. Maybe my mood.
I negotiated 120 a couple months back with her CFS was okay.
6. Short haired chunky white girl big tits appearance 6. 2 Brown hair. No interest.
7. Can't rember early 20's white Brown hair gal I've never seen her before kind of looked like Candy. 7 appearance. I did not stick around to talk with her.
So I left with a no fuck report, sorry. Was not a great lineup and I guess was not in mood to stick around after hearing 250.
Deano.
Did I read correctly that Club Venus is back open? If so, is it any safer than before? Thanks in advance for any info you can give me!
[QUOTE=Deano666;4132220]Cold lineup of seven dancers. Maybe ten customers.
1. Angel. Latino Big tits and she's putting on weight. 6 appearance She quoted me 400 a couple years back. I just laughed and said who the fuck pays that. So.
2. Star white blonde nice looking mid 20's great body 7. 5 appearance. Did not get a chance to talk to her so not sure what's on menu if any.
3. Red slender late 20's AA 6 appearance.
4. Nice looking mid 20's AA can't remember her name 7. 5 appearance long hair nice c cups but she dissapeared in dressing room. Was going for that but she never came back out or I missed her.
5. Cheyenne white early 20's redish hair b tits descent body. She asked if I wanted to do her I asked how much will that cost. She said 250 I just giggled no I'm good. I did not try negotiating. Maybe my mood.
I negotiated 120 a couple months back with her CFS was okay.
6. Short haired chunky white girl big tits appearance 6. 2 Brown hair. No interest.
7. Can't rember early 20's white Brown hair gal I've never seen her before kind of looked like Candy. 7 appearance. I did not stick around to talk with her.
So I left with a no fuck report, sorry. Was not a great lineup and I guess was not in mood to stick around after hearing 250.
Deano.[/QUOTE]Good for you my man! No GPS contribution under your watch. You obviously thought with the big versus little head. Most guys don't!
[QUOTE=JdAgain;4129852]I'm a bit of a SC regular, and I can tell you about at least three dancers I've gotten to know well enough that they've told me their SO had no idea what they actually did in the club beyond dancing. I always wondered how someone could so easily draw an imaginary line in their head for their GF's behavior as a dancer. It doesn't take a genius to get that they are probably doing more than just dance, if they're bringing home the proverbial bacon. Don't want to know how they got it, don't ask.
Or get a real job yourself and offer to support her so she doesn't have to dance. Now there's a novel idea.[/QUOTE]+1. When I first began visiting the clubs and making small talk with the girls, the biggest shock to me was hearing how some of them were paying the rent and groceries for their deadbeat live-in boyfriends. I could not believe my ears. Girls I would have worshipped as a young man, girls who wouldn't have given me the time of day, were resolutely selling themselves to strangers to keep their BF in smokes and 40's.
No wonder so many of these girls prefer "mature" men like us, I. E. , men with manners, self-respect, a steady income, and a willingness to spend some of it on them. Never in my wildest imagination did I think I would get far better tail and more of it in my sixties than in my twenties, and for less expense.
[QUOTE=DocDetroit;4132467]+1. When I first began visiting the clubs and making small talk with the girls, the biggest shock to me was hearing how some of them were paying the rent and groceries for their deadbeat live-in boyfriends. I could not believe my ears. Girls I would have worshipped as a young man, girls who wouldn't have given me the time of day, were resolutely selling themselves to strangers to keep their BF in smokes and 40's.
No wonder so many of these girls prefer "mature" men like us, I. E. , men with manners, self-respect, a steady income, and a willingness to spend some of it on them. Never in my wildest imagination did I think I would get far better tail and more of it in my sixties than in my twenties, and for less expense.[/QUOTE]If they really preferred "mature" men, they wouldn't be with their losers. Keep that in mind so you're not blinded by the fantasy of hooking up with a young woman. They're hustlers and the attention and money the "mature" men pay them make them feel good and boosts their self esteem for a minute, but at the end of the day, they prefer the losers who they can drink and smoke with. We're nothing but an ATM for the dancers, so don't get your hopes too high.
[QUOTE=PowerHouse1;4132721]If they really preferred "mature" men, they wouldn't be with their losers. Keep that in mind so you're not blinded by the fantasy of hooking up with a young woman. They're hustlers and the attention and money the "mature" men pay them make them feel good and boosts their self esteem for a minute, but at the end of the day, they prefer the losers who they can drink and smoke with. We're nothing but an ATM for the dancers, so don't get your hopes too high.[/QUOTE]Have to agree with this. Everyone of these chicks (at least 95% of them) are professional liars or liars in training. Learned the hard way but it's fun to pretend that 20 year olds love fat bald guys but in reality they love your wallet, just like most women. If I dated a striper and she told me she didn't do extras and worked in Detroit I'd laugh and walk away.
[QUOTE=PowerHouse1;4132721]If they really preferred "mature" men, they wouldn't be with their losers. Keep that in mind so you're not blinded by the fantasy of hooking up with a young woman. They're hustlers and the attention and money the "mature" men pay them make them feel good and boosts their self esteem for a minute, but at the end of the day, they prefer the losers who they can drink and smoke with. We're nothing but an ATM for the dancers, so don't get your hopes too high.[/QUOTE]+1 to this, too. An excellent and timely reminder that these are transactional relationships we have with these providers, and nothing more. I should qualify my statement -- these girls prefer us mature men AS CUSTOMERS.
I am not so blinded by the fantasy of hooking up with young women that I have forgotten that when the money runs out, so do they. It works the other direction, too; if I can't get what I want from one girl, I am free to walk away and choose another.
ATM -- LOL! When I told another friend that my ATF had asked to meet me again, he said the same thing -Of course, you're her little ATM. " Every monger should have this printed on a card in his wallet next to the cash.
[QUOTE=DocDetroit;4132819]+1 to this, too. An excellent and timely reminder that these are transactional relationships we have with these providers, and nothing more. I should qualify my statement -- these girls prefer us mature men AS CUSTOMERS.
I am not so blinded by the fantasy of hooking up with young women that I have forgotten that when the money runs out, so do they. It works the other direction, too; if I can't get what I want from one girl, I am free to walk away and choose another.
ATM -- LOL! When I told another friend that my ATF had asked to meet me again, he said the same thing -Of course, you're her little ATM. " Every monger should have this printed on a card in his wallet next to the cash.[/QUOTE]Or matching T-shirts? ATF in pink for her and ATM in blue for guys.
[QUOTE=Aman200;4132777] If I dated a striper and she told me she didn't do extras and worked in Detroit I'd laugh and walk away.[/QUOTE]No, the best is when a stripper that you've done extra's with before comes up and says she's broke and doesn't do extra's anymore. LOL.
[QUOTE=TedEBear;4132313]Did I read correctly that Club Venus is back open? If so, is it any safer than before? Thanks in advance for any info you can give me![/QUOTE]Not worth going they want $5 to park and $10 cover.
[QUOTE=Aman200;4132777]Everyone of these chicks (at least 95% of them) are professional liars or liars in training.[/QUOTE]Yes, exactly this. It's a floor show. On stage or in your booth. I don't mind paying to see the show, and the better it is the more I'll spend. But it sure ain't reality.
They had seven dancers with a dozen costumers when I arrived after work. Listed below is what I remember about the talent.
Angel: AA, mid 20's, dark hair, okay body, nice booty, a 6. 75 appearance. I enjoyed a half & half session with her last fall for 120. The first half was uncovered.
Chanel: White, 20 ish, blonde, B-cup tits, nice booty, petite, a 7. 25. Her face isn't her best feature, although it isn't terrible. I enjoyed a GFE session with Chanel today for 120 plus a small tip. This girl has a strong head game. Also, she didn't care about the noise level during the main event. Highly recommended.
Kay: White, 40 ish, dark hair, larger tits, medium build, a 6. 25. I've previously seen her dancing dayshift at the Criket.
Michelle: AA, late 20's, dark hair, medium build, a 6. 25.
Selena: Latino, mid 30's, dark, hair, B-cup tits, noticeable stomach, a 6. 25.
Suzie: White, 40's, dyed red hair, decent body, a 6. 25.
Tatiana: White, 40 ish, dark hair, overweight, a 6.
I will be in Detroit next week and would like to know the name of the dancer in the PIC?
[QUOTE=JulesJordan;4133587]They had seven dancers with a dozen costumers when I arrived after work. Listed below is what I remember about the talent.
Angel: AA, mid 20's, dark hair, okay body, nice booty, a 6. 75 appearance. I enjoyed a half & half session with her last fall for 120. The first half was uncovered.
Chanel: White, 20 ish, blonde, B-cup tits, nice booty, petite, a 7. 25. Her face isn't her best feature, although it isn't terrible. I enjoyed a GFE session with Chanel today for 120 plus a small tip. This girl has a strong head game. Also, she didn't care about the noise level during the main event. Highly recommended.
Kay: White, 40 ish, dark hair, larger tits, medium build, a 6. 25. I've previously seen her dancing dayshift at the Criket.
Michelle: AA, late 20's, dark hair, medium build, a 6. 25.
Selena: Latino, mid 30's, dark, hair, B-cup tits, noticeable stomach, a 6. 25.
Suzie: White, 40's, dyed red hair, decent body, a 6. 25.
Tatiana: White, 40 ish, dark hair, overweight, a 6.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DocDetroit;4132467]
No wonder so many of these girls prefer "mature" men like us, I. E. , men with manners, self-respect, a steady income, and a willingness to spend some of it on them. Never in my wildest imagination did I think I would get far better tail and more of it in my sixties than in my twenties, and for less expense.[/QUOTE]DD,
I am with you, I only want 30 minutes of her time. She only wants to spend 30 minutes with me.
Sometimes on a given night I might sample 2 or 3 college age girls.
Pretty good life.
MM.
[QUOTE=HungaryMan;4133036]Or matching T-shirts? ATF in pink for her and ATM in blue for guys.[/QUOTE]LOL! Too cute! With the club logo on them. Plus a whole line of products. Hmm.
[QUOTE=MareloboMex;4133813]DD,
I am with you, I only want 30 minutes of her time. She only wants to spend 30 minutes with me.
Sometimes on a given night I might sample 2 or 3 college age girls.
Pretty good life.
MM.[/QUOTE]Exactly. I don't need a GFE. I don't need a continuing relationship filled with drama. I already have that with my SO. What I want is affordable personal service from a hot SP at a time and place convenient to me, NSA.
I agree, this is a pretty good life.
Hello All,
I've been busy with Seeking Arrangement for a while now, but I have decided it's time to mix things up and head back to BTs Dearborn next week. I was curious if any of you have had luck getting two girls back in VIP at the same time, or is that something most strippers who offer extras shy away from?
Thanks in advance.
SA.
[QUOTE=Salmasy;4133942]Hello All,
I've been busy with Seeking Arrangement for a while now, but I have decided it's time to mix things up and head back to BTs Dearborn next week. I was curious if any of you have had luck getting two girls back in VIP at the same time, or is that something most strippers who offer extras shy away from?
Thanks in advance.
SA.[/QUOTE]You can usually get a discounted rate with it too since you have to pay both girls. Just find one you like and ask her to pick the other girl.
[QUOTE=Salmasy;4133942]Hello All,
I've been busy with Seeking Arrangement for a while now, but I have decided it's time to mix things up and head back to BTs Dearborn next week. I was curious if any of you have had luck getting two girls back in VIP at the same time, or is that something most strippers who offer extras shy away from?
Thanks in advance.
SA.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DickyDoo;4133756]I will be in Detroit next week and would like to know the name of the dancer in the PIC?[/QUOTE]I'm assuming it's Chanel since he reviewed her.
Made a trip last night around 11:30 PM. The cover was 20 $, when did that happen?. Also in the VIP all the curtains have been removed, thus while walking you get to see what everyone else is doing, also VIP tax now has to be paid in the front and a ticket has to be obtained to be given to the bouncer.
[QUOTE=WasabiSauce;4134996]I'm assuming it's Chanel since he reviewed her.[/QUOTE]As stated in prior posts, just hover over the picture for the name. And thank Jules Jordan for another stellar report, I definitely appreciate his posts and intel.
[QUOTE=Jay23;4135590]Made a trip last night around 11:30 PM. The cover was 20 $, when did that happen?. Also in the VIP all the curtains have been removed, thus while walking you get to see what everyone else is doing, also VIP tax now has to be paid in the front and a ticket has to be obtained to be given to the bouncer.[/QUOTE]I stop by on Friday night around the same time and only paid 10 $. It is not the most active SC so I can't believe they were asking for 20 $. I never had to pay that cover, unless there were a special entertainer or PPV sports event. Did the it include a drink as well? Sometimes they make you pay in advance.
Recently had the opportunity to have another go doing Brenda. As it has always been in the past, it was a great time. Mid-40'2, tall & slender, B cups, long legs and great ass. Takes a pounding with no complaints / no drama / no up-sell. CBJ, FIV, CFS many positions no rush to complete. All good and satisfying.
Highly recommend in particular for those of you seeking to try SC hobby fun for the first time.
[QUOTE=Tractorman;4135908]Recently had the opportunity to have another go doing Brenda. As it has always been in the past, it was a great time. Mid-40'2, tall & slender, B cups, long legs and great ass. Takes a pounding with no complaints / no drama / no up-sell. CBJ, FIV, CFS many positions no rush to complete. All good and satisfying.
Highly recommend in particular for those of you seeking to try SC hobby fun for the first time.[/QUOTE]How much was your final donation? I think she's hot but said she wouldn't go below 200.
I'm just curious, do any strippers do out-of-club meets? I'm not really a strip club guy, but I notice the girls posted here are way hotter than any escorts being posted in the escort section. Prices seem decent to good as well. I'd imagine they'd charge more to meet someone outside a club, which I'd be fine with. Just curious if it actually happens?
[QUOTE=WasherBoy111;4136013]How much was your final donation? I think she's hot but said she wouldn't go below 200.[/QUOTE]I have gotten Brenda for $100 in the past BBBJ / CFS.