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Going to be staying on the NE side of Raleigh, any FS places off capital Blvd.? Looks like First Health, New horizon, and Oriental body spa are the closest to me not finding anything when I search are these all legit places? Also any info on the STG Asian massage ads are they worth a try? Appreciate any tips! Check my profile I have some posts for the FL panhandle if anyone heads that way. Help me out Hendry I'm trying tuh bang dis broad!
[QUOTE=SavageHenry;5660533]Going to be staying on the NE side of Raleigh, any FS places off capital Blvd.? Looks like First Health, New horizon, and Oriental body spa are the closest to me not finding anything when I search are these all legit places? Also any info on the STG Asian massage ads are they worth a try? Appreciate any tips! Check my profile I have some posts for the FL panhandle if anyone heads that way. Help me out Hendry I'm trying tuh bang dis broad![/QUOTE]There are Zero FS places in Raleigh.
Durham has ONE where you may find FS but is generally not considered a high quality place.
There are Zero AMPs of Any Kind in NE Raleigh. Any Asian Massage Parlors in NE Raleigh are legit.
Knightdale and Cary would be the closest spots.
Unfortunately, the Massage Board works in conjunction with the local police to shut them down.
There used to be many, but no longer.
One would have to go to Fayettesville to find even 'OK' AMPs that provide FS.
Note: The Ads on STG tend to provide FS but no Massage, but they will be over closer to the AirPort and Cary. If you look in the User Blog Section, there is some discussion of the Hotel Based Asian 'Massage' places on STG.
Note2: There is also JJs list in the User Blog for the List. Assume anything Rated a "D" is legit. 100% forget the place in Wake Forest for anything but legit. The list was made when there were dozens of places a few years back before the purge.
[QUOTE=TallJohn;5655980]Man, last time I had to get buzzed in for a rub was when the crazy cat lady moved and her new driveway had a gate. Never knew about AMPs back in those days, such a better option.[/QUOTE]Estelle was a psycho!
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There are Zero AMPs of Any Kind in NE Raleigh. Any Asian Massage Parlors in NE Raleigh are legit.
Knightdale and Cary would be the closest spots.
Unfortunately, the Massage Board works in conjunction with the local police to shut them down.
[/QUOTE]Whats even in knightdale anymore? I thought what was left there was all legit also.
[QUOTE=TheShredSter66;5661420]Whats even in knightdale anymore? I thought what was left there was all legit also.[/QUOTE]I was slightly mistaken. I thought the Rock Quarry Rd one was in Knightdate. It's close to Knightdale but I guess in Raleigh proper.
[QUOTE=livinitinva;5661534]I was slightly mistaken. I thought the Rock Quarry Rd one was in Knightdate. It's close to Knightdale but I guess in Raleigh proper.[/QUOTE]Rock quarry is getting expensive too.
If you guys ever in Charlotte I know a place with gorgeous girls between 20-30 FS.
[QUOTE=FuckHard;5663023]Rock quarry is getting expensive too.
If you guys ever in Charlotte I know a place with gorgeous girls between 20-30 FS.[/QUOTE]Age between 20-30.
Donation is $220 everything covered.
"Durham has one where you may find FS but is generally not considered a high-quality place."
Yeah, not the greatest location. Not an upscale environment at all. But Most of the rotation of 'younger than the mama-san' talent that comes and goes there is down with a CBJ and some will do CFS. Asking prices vary from $65-$100 for CBJ and $80-$120 for CFS. As with all of the exchanges of services for funds, your mileage may vary. Did have one girl throw the $160 for CFS out there one day. I laughed so hard at her she left the room and had the other girl working come in and do the 'end of session' activities.
Of course, you should and can often negotiate those prices into something slightly more resembling STG or LC rates. And there are some of the ladies in the talent pool that will cop to BBBJ and even BBFS if you ask nice, look healthy I guess, and are willing to throw some more coin on the stack. No estimates on those rates as they fluctuate wildly based on the provider in question. I have to say there is one that will do BBBJ without asking or a bit of hesitation and has never complained when I put what I thought would be the start of the negotiations for that act, $60, down on the table. Just picks it up, and walks me to the door with a kiss on the cheek and I give her a tit squeeze.
The big news is. They seem to be trying to move towards the 1-hour door fee being $80. Twice now I have had to ask for my Hammy back in change and both times Mama looked like she was trying to get the courage to say the door rate was $80 but thinks better of it.
[QUOTE=Dasalt;5665825]"Durham has one where you may find FS but is generally not considered a high-quality place."
[/QUOTE]I do not know about this one. Is it in the JJ list? Can someone point me out the name and / or address?
[QUOTE=ChmodVeg;5666536]I do not know about this one. Is it in the JJ list? Can someone point me out the name and / or address?[/QUOTE]0056.
It is on JJ's list. It's 0056.
Has anyone get in contact with this one? No comments but I have seen her ad for a while.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleighdurham/71472710[/URL]
Does anyone know if Moon takes walk-ins?
[QUOTE=JakeLaMotta69;5670686]Does anyone know if Moon takes walk-ins?[/QUOTE]They do, but they here busy with appointments the two times that I tried to get in. I got in by calling for an appointment and still waited 25 minutes.
Been a little disappointed in Moon. I have been there three times. The first time, I was a walk-in and got lucky that they just had a cancellation and had a great time with Coco. She told me next time to call to set an appt because they have been so crazy busy. So a couple weeks later I called and made an appt for Coco two days in advance. When I got there at my scheduled time. No Coco and they had no record of an appt. They said she was on her way in and I could wait. I waited an hour and no Coco. They asked me if I wanted half an hour with someone else, and I said I had an appt for an hour. A half hour isn't long enough for me. LOL. Anyway Jessica ended up giving me an hour. Don't get me wrong. Great massage and I was happy, but not nearly as good as Coco. And I am moron and tried to do this again last weekend. I called on Friday night and asked if Coco was working the next day. They said yes. I asked for an appt with her and they said they wrote it down. When I got there. Nope! No Coco. No appt. Luckily I was greeted by Luna and she gave me an hour session. It was good. But again, it was not as good as Coco!
[QUOTE=Reggie212;5670781]They do, but they here busy with appointments the two times that I tried to get in. I got in by calling for an appointment and still waited 25 minutes.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JerryGreene;5671691]Been a little disappointed in Moon. I have been there three times. The first time, I was a walk-in and got lucky that they just had a cancellation and had a great time with Coco. She told me next time to call to set an appt because they have been so crazy busy. So a couple weeks later I called and made an appt for Coco two days in advance. When I got there at my scheduled time. No Coco and they had no record of an appt. They said she was on her way in and I could wait. I waited an hour and no Coco. They asked me if I wanted half an hour with someone else, and I said I had an appt for an hour. A half hour isn't long enough for me. LOL. Anyway Jessica ended up giving me an hour. Don't get me wrong. Great massage and I was happy, but not nearly as good as Coco. And I am moron and tried to do this again last weekend. I called on Friday night and asked if Coco was working the next day. They said yes. I asked for an appt with her and they said they wrote it down. When I got there. Nope! No Coco. No appt. Luckily I was greeted by Luna and she gave me an hour session. It was good. But again, it was not as good as Coco![/QUOTE]Make a same day appointment. I don't recommend making a future appointment because they don't write it down because they believe you will not show. Now about Coco, well some love her and some don't care for her. Go for what you like so call early and make a same day appointment.
Recently I heard about the new Moon Coffee place and have been dying to try their creamy brew. I haven't been to a coffee shop since COVID began, and the coffee at my place is either very infrequent or wholly unsatisfying, so I have been itching for that sweet taste we all crave. I understand that they have been busy, as lots of coffee connoisseurs have been missing the fine coffee brewed at their favorite shops. So I called at about 9 in the am and made an appt for 9:30 which to my surprise was available. I had heard that the barista Coco brews a mean and satisfying cup, but she was not available today, so I got barista Luna. When I arrived I was impressed with the decor. It's a lot nicer than your run-of-the-mill coffee shop. I was immediately whisked into one of the coffee stalls by Luna and asked to get ready for the brew. I told Luna that she could stay while I got ready, so she would know that I was a serious coffee drinker and not from the coffee regulators.
Luna asked me if I prefer hard or medium roast, and I replied medium. She covered my mid-section with a towel to avoid any coffee stains, and climbed up on top and began to brew. The grind was nice and relaxing; maybe not up to commercial standards, but better than the typical Dunkin' Donuts or McDonalds. As I said, I hadn't been to a coffee shop in over a year, so my heart was pounding. She kept her mask on, but I took mine off, as I was having trouble breathing. She probably sensed my nervous anticipation, but she just continued the slow, relaxing grind. She was sitting up on the coffee counter and I could feel her as she was grinding. I began gently stroking her legs to let her know that I greatly appreciated how she was brewing my coffee. After about 10 or 15 relaxing minutes, Luna moved to the bean selection part of the brewing. She very gently caressed the beans making sure that they would be fully aroused prior to the final brewing. This was a welcome surprise to me, as I heard that she does not often caress the beans prior to the final brewing. I was so impressed with her gentle brewing skills that I raised up my mid-section to allow her better access to the hanging fruit.
I could have let her gently tease the beans all day, but she eventually asked me to turn over to get to the final brewing stage. She asked me if I prefer cream or oil for my final brew, and I responded that she should use whatever she prefers. She went and got some oil for my cup. As she started the final stage of the brewing I told her that I like my final coffee brewed slow and gentle for best flavor. She complied with this, and I was impressed with her slow, sensual brewing technique. I asked if she could lift up the top of the grinder to expose her cream cans, as they looked delightful under the lid, but she declined. Maybe next time.
At this point my mouth was watering in anticipation of tasting the final result. I asked the barista if she could do some coffee talk for me, telling me how much she wanted me to taste her coffee. This she obliged, and it had its intended affect. In a short few minutes the final brew was complete. I thanked the barista and she asked me if I wanted a hot towel to clean up some of the spilled cream. She asked if I wanted to continue the grind as I had some time left, but I had to decline as I had to get to a meeting.
Since she was a good barista, and I hadn't had a cup in so long, I gave her a 50 bean tip. Some of you other coffee drinkers might rap me on the knuckles for this, but I tend to be generous when served a nice satisfying cup. Or maybe this is now the standard gratuity for a good simple cup without the extras. I will probably try their coffee again, as I would like to sample some of the other barista's brewing techniques, especially the well-known Coco.
Please PM me if you would like more info about this shop and the coffee it brews.
[QUOTE=JakeLaMotta69;5672598]Recently I heard about the new Moon Coffee place and have been dying to try their creamy brew. I haven't been to a coffee shop since COVID began, and the coffee at my place is either very infrequent or wholly unsatisfying, so I have been itching for that sweet taste we all crave. I understand that they have been busy, as lots of coffee connoisseurs have been missing the fine coffee brewed at their favorite shops. So I called at about 9 in the am and made an appt for 9:30 which to my surprise was available. I had heard that the barista Coco brews a mean and satisfying cup, but she was not available today, so I got barista Luna. When I arrived I was impressed with the decor. It's a lot nicer than your run-of-the-mill coffee shop. I was immediately whisked into one of the coffee stalls by Luna and asked to get ready for the brew. I told Luna that she could stay while I got ready, so she would know that I was a serious coffee drinker and not from the coffee regulators.
Luna asked me if I prefer hard or medium roast, and I replied medium. She covered my mid-section with a towel to avoid any coffee stains, and climbed up on top and began to brew. The grind was nice and relaxing; maybe not up to commercial standards, but better than the typical Dunkin' Donuts or McDonalds. As I said, I hadn't been to a coffee shop in over a year, so my heart was pounding. She kept her mask on, but I took mine off, as I was having trouble breathing. She probably sensed my nervous anticipation, but she just continued the slow, relaxing grind. She was sitting up on the coffee counter and I could feel her as she was grinding. I began gently stroking her legs to let her know that I greatly appreciated how she was brewing my coffee. After about 10 or 15 relaxing minutes, Luna moved to the bean selection part of the brewing. She very gently caressed the beans making sure that they would be fully aroused prior to the final brewing. This was a welcome surprise to me, as I heard that she does not often caress the beans prior to the final brewing. I was so impressed with her gentle brewing skills that I raised up my mid-section to allow her better access to the hanging fruit.
I could have let her gently tease the beans all day, but she eventually asked me to turn over to get to the final brewing stage. She asked me if I prefer cream or oil for my final brew, and I responded that she should use whatever she prefers. She went and got some oil for my cup. As she started the final stage of the brewing I told her that I like my final coffee brewed slow and gentle for best flavor. She complied with this, and I was impressed with her slow, sensual brewing technique. I asked if she could lift up the top of the grinder to expose her cream cans, as they looked delightful under the lid, but she declined. Maybe next time.
At this point my mouth was watering in anticipation of tasting the final result. I asked the barista if she could do some coffee talk for me, telling me how much she wanted me to taste her coffee. This she obliged, and it had its intended affect. In a short few minutes the final brew was complete. I thanked the barista and she asked me if I wanted a hot towel to clean up some of the spilled cream. She asked if I wanted to continue the grind as I had some time left, but I had to decline as I had to get to a meeting.
Since she was a good barista, and I hadn't had a cup in so long, I gave her a 50 bean tip. Some of you other coffee drinkers might rap me on the knuckles for this, but I tend to be generous when served a nice satisfying cup. Or maybe this is now the standard gratuity for a good simple cup without the extras. I will probably try their coffee again, as I would like to sample some of the other barista's brewing techniques, especially the well-known Coco.
Please PM me if you would like more info about this shop and the coffee it brews.[/QUOTE]Cover for coffee stains? Yeck grody.
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[QUOTE=AGoodGuy;5671969]Make a same day appointment. I don't recommend making a future appointment because they don't write it down because they believe you will not show. Now about Coco, well some love her and some don't care for her. Go for what you like so call early and make a same day appointment.[/QUOTE]I just want to add that in my opinion the appeal of moon is that its out of the way. Not another strip mall location off of a busy road surrounded by busy restaurants and / or grocery stores. Personally I've yet to get anything more than a standard finish there. The massage is usually on the better side that being said. Still building familiarity with these gals though. Others may have better odds than me. As with anyplace YMMV.
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Luna is nothing special, got stuck with her for a second time and really it's just another mechanical boring type ending along with an overpriced massage. She offered hard, medium and soft but I am sure one size fits all.
In her massage skills, not unskilled but nothing like a real therapist that can do deep tissue work. Even if she had an upbeat personality it would have made me think about coming back but I am all done with robotic jackhammering massage experiences.
I disagree. I've never found another massage girl who, without much prompting, pulls on a glove and goes to town on prostate & will progress to full on fisting. With no hesitation.
[QUOTE=Pubb69;5677005]Luna is nothing special, got stuck with her for a second time and really it's just another mechanical boring type ending along with an overpriced massage. She offered hard, medium and soft but I am sure one size fits all.
In her massage skills, not unskilled but nothing like a real therapist that can do deep tissue work. Even if she had an upbeat personality it would have made me think about coming back but I am all done with robotic jackhammering massage experiences.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Raleighassman;5678237]I disagree. I've never found another massage girl who, without much prompting, pulls on a glove and goes to town on prostate & will progress to full on fisting. With no hesitation.[/QUOTE]Sorry that's not my thing but if she's doing that without prompting all it means is she is trying to get it over as fast as possible. I stand by what I said.
Well finally did something I've long thought about, got a four hand!
Had to travel a bit, newer spot. I smelled food when I went in. Two ladies met me, asked about appointment (no) and still invited me in. Offered one or both of them, double the rate. Cleared stated Tippa not included and that if I liked the work to Tippa well, and to not Tippa well if work not enjoyed. New spot for me, I gave safe indications without disrespect or crime.
I was surprised, found the work less sensual or arousing due to the 4 hand being disorganized, rarely working in concert. Kind of like all of ones senses in two areas, it robbed from the experience. Back walk was good, did what was intended. One of them spoke more, better English, friendly enough but talked enough like crazy GF or wife that could get on your nerves. They chatted A LOT in native language. Chatty sat on table near the end, did not push resting hand away. Masks were worn.
Standardish tip x2 left, when picked up thumbs up and thanks returned.
I'd repeat and hope to get chatty solo, will not ever do 4 hand there again, if anywhere else at all.
4 hand was a distraction from the normal day tripping meditative relaxation.
Tried out the Moon today and drew Luna. Massage was ok and nothing spectacular on the finish, but kudos on the heated table. That's a new one for me.
[QUOTE=Pubb69;5678288]Sorry that's not my thing but if she's doing that without prompting all it means is she is trying to get it over as fast as possible. I stand by what I said.[/QUOTE]I'm with you on this. She didn't go anywhere near my ass, and the massage was underwhelming.
[QUOTE=TheShredSter66;5675888]I just want to add that in my opinion the appeal of moon is that its out of the way. Not another strip mall location off of a busy road surrounded by busy restaurants and / or grocery stores. Personally I've yet to get anything more than a standard finish there. The massage is usually on the better side that being said. Still building familiarity with these gals though. Others may have better odds than me. As with anyplace YMMV.[/QUOTE]Agreed and anything new has an appeal plus two of the ladies are former Studio employees which attracts those who liked Studio. Coco had a past reputation however I believe she has shed her old skin and changed her ways since this is her own store now.
[QUOTE=Raleighassman;5678237]I disagree. I've never found another massage girl who, without much prompting, pulls on a glove and goes to town on prostate & will progress to full on fisting. With no hesitation.[/QUOTE]If you like the glove then one lady at Green Apple will utilize it without much prompting.
Differences of opinion on Luna. I like her massage but her finish sometimes requires a helping hand. Somebody out there really likes her and should teach her the art of a sensual handy. Maybe give her a homework assignment of watching some erotic massage videos with the promise of a bigger tip when she improves. Luna is a nice person but not every lady is naturally sensual or sexual. These ladies need a patient teacher!
I have some Muslim friends and they would share stories about life prior to America. They would only see a woman's foot or hand and sometimes the face but that was it. Then one day they would see a woman in a short sleeve top and they couldn't stop starring. Nothing tight or revealing but just seeing the forearm and elbow got them really excited and horny. I found this fascinating but I could relate by remembering my first exposure to seeing a naked women in a Penthouse magazine. I couldn't stop looking it! As time passes we build a collection of sexual experiences and sometimes there is the possibility of desensitization from mental and physical overexposure. Balance my friends.
[QUOTE=TallJohn;5679509]Well finally did something I've long thought about, got a four hand!
Had to travel a bit, newer spot. I smelled food when I went in. Two ladies met me, asked about appointment (no) and still invited me in. Offered one or both of them, double the rate. Cleared stated Tippa not included and that if I liked the work to Tippa well, and to not Tippa well if work not enjoyed. New spot for me, I gave safe indications without disrespect or crime.
I was surprised, found the work less sensual or arousing due to the 4 hand being disorganized, rarely working in concert. Kind of like all of ones senses in two areas, it robbed from the experience. Back walk was good, did what was intended. One of them spoke more, better English, friendly enough but talked enough like crazy GF or wife that could get on your nerves. They chatted A LOT in native language. Chatty sat on table near the end, did not push resting hand away. Masks were worn.
Standardish tip x2 left, when picked up thumbs up and thanks returned.
I'd repeat and hope to get chatty solo, will not ever do 4 hand there again, if anywhere else at all.
4 hand was a distraction from the normal day tripping meditative relaxation.[/QUOTE]When you say had to travel a bit can we assume you mean outside of our immediate raleigh / cary / durham area?
[QUOTE=AGoodGuy;5680699]Differences of opinion on Luna. I like her massage but her finish sometimes requires a helping hand. Somebody out there really likes her and should teach her the art of a sensual handy. Maybe give her a homework assignment of watching some erotic massage videos with the promise of a bigger tip when she improves. Luna is a nice person but not every lady is naturally sensual or sexual. These ladies need a patient teacher!
I have some Muslim friends and they would share stories about life prior to America. They would only see a woman's foot or hand and sometimes the face but that was it. Then one day they would see a woman in a short sleeve top and they couldn't stop starring. Nothing tight or revealing but just seeing the forearm and elbow got them really excited and horny. I found this fascinating but I could relate by remembering my first exposure to seeing a naked women in a Penthouse magazine. I couldn't stop looking it! As time passes we build a collection of sexual experiences and sometimes there is the possibility of desensitization from mental and physical overexposure. Balance my friends.[/QUOTE]It kind of goes like this. You pay her, lie on the table, she starts a routine scripted massage with a towel placed over you and all the while you are thinking why did I do this. I guess I am just burnt out on the mediocrity because I used to know so much better but if you are new to this then maybe it works for you.
Pro level work.
No hints of extras.
Nice lady.
Safe quiet environment.
No shower.
Nothing to raise arousal.
Good stuff but equal can be had for less such as those places that get teasingly close at the end and offer more time.
Hey why'all, I'm new to the Raleigh area. I'll be here for about two months looking for a good time. Are there any American spas in Raleigh or 30 minutes or less?? I've found plenty of Asian spas but that's not for me. Please let me know.
Thanks!!
Visited healing spa (used to be green apple, no. 40 on JJs list). Overall was a solid experience. 80 for the hour and 40 tip. Okay massage was given by a nice decent looking Korean lady, probably in her early 40's. Standard massage with light teasing and finish. Will probably visit again in a few months when I feel the urge. I don't go that often so wasn't too bothered by the increase in price.
Only bad part was some people getting covid tested next door so a lot of foot traffic to get through but wasn't to worried about people noticing.
[QUOTE=Bobby247;5691223]Hey why'all, I'm new to the Raleigh area. I'll be here for about two months looking for a good time. Are there any American spas in Raleigh or 30 minutes or less?? I've found plenty of Asian spas but that's not for me. Please let me know.
Thanks!![/QUOTE]The basic answer is no. Quality bath house in durham I think is still around but the reviews are few and far between. Most say not worth the money. Magic touch in franklinton isn't too far of a drive but its on the same status as quality. You could go down to the user forum and check the non AMP massages thread for the independents, but most are also considered not worth the money either. Best I can say is go through the thread here for a few pages and get caught up on the situation here and try your luck. Or make the 3 hour trip to charlotte.
[QUOTE=AGoodGuy;5680637]If you like the glove then one lady at Green Apple will utilize it without much prompting.[/QUOTE]Which lady is that?
Who is recommended there nowadays? I've seen Angie, Emily, and Monica mentioned in this thread.
Enjoyed my visit there yesterday. Had a session with the same Korean lady mentioned in other posts. Massage was so, so but that was ok w / me. I was there for the flip. It's been a long time since visiting any AMPs and purple head was ready. Before the flip the lady played a lot with my ass and wasn't shy with her finger going in to my ass hole. Between that and rubbing the purple head I about blew then and there. She asked if I was ready to turn over and I answered not yet. She was okay with that. Finally after the flip I could tell this wasn't her first rodeo. No UTC roaming but lots of OTC between her legs and she seemed to really enjoy that. Lots of moaning and encouragement from her. She took directions well and I enjoyed what I came for. We talked for a while after clean up so that just a bit a personal touch. No hurry and leave as I have experienced in the past. Foot traffic and the parking lot was a bit of a hassle because of COVID19 testing at the unit beside them. 80/40 Will consider returning after the new year.
Be safe.
Booked late evening appointment at the Moon. I was there on time, standing outside in cold I kept ringing door bell, I was able to see somebody in orange dress walk by the door, but she didn't open the door for good 5 minutes.
After a while Mitchell in orange dress let me in. She was pretty, fit, cute face. We got to the room and I got ready. She asked if I can do 30 minutes, even though I had booked for an hour. I politely told her I'd like to do an hour, She kept complaining about it throughout the session.
On the positive side, massage was top notch, the best I've had in recent memory.
Tease was Meh, standard finish, NO OTC / UTC allowed.
Damage was 80 plus 45. Next time I will probably ask for another girl.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=TheShredSter66;5691920]The basic answer is no. Quality bath house in durham I think is still around but the reviews are few and far between. Most say not worth the money. Magic touch in franklinton isn't too far of a drive but its on the same status as quality. You could go down to the user forum and check the non AMP massages thread for the independents, but most are also considered not worth the money either. Best I can say is go through the thread here for a few pages and get caught up on the situation here and try your luck. Or make the 3 hour trip to charlotte.[/QUOTE]Quality is fine. Can be hit or miss, but the hits can be great. Hours kinda vary though.
I miss the Esquire in Hillsborough.
[QUOTE=Pubb69;5685257]It kind of goes like this. You pay her, lie on the table, she starts a routine scripted massage with a towel placed over you and all the while you are thinking why did I do this. I guess I am just burnt out on the mediocrity because I used to know so much better but if you are new to this then maybe it works for you.[/QUOTE]Mediocrity is a very good point. Spa veterans know the delight of a sensual massage. An average looking lady can get repeat visits if she has skill.