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SA is truly going down hill. The quality of the women and their donations are going up! From traveling all over the country, from Cali, to NV, to TX, to WA, to even Ohio, the girls in those places arent so stuck on themselves like the ones in the Northeast. Its like the girls in New England all suffer from GPS because they are used to bums telling them how incredible they are in the hopes of getting a chance at being with them!
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[QUOTE=HipHoprulez02;7622312]SA is truly going down hill. The quality of the women and their donations are going up! From traveling all over the country, from Cali, to NV, to TX, to WA, to even Ohio, the girls in those places arent so stuck on themselves like the ones in the Northeast. Its like the girls in New England all suffer from GPS because they are used to bums telling them how incredible they are in the hopes of getting a chance at being with them!
-HH02[/QUOTE]Of living too affects the prices these girls want / need. My last 2 SB wanted more for what we already had going and didn't feel like obliging so just been using BIE. I hate the hr or two restriction but gotten a few numbers to hopefully work outside them though they are a great agency nonetheless. I'd recommend most to take a break from SA if they can't afford the price increase for now.
HipHoprulez02;7622312]SA is truly going down hill. The quality of the women and their donations are going up! From traveling all over the country, from Cali, to NV, to TX, to WA, to even Ohio, the girls in those places arent so stuck on themselves like the ones in the Northeast. It's like the girls in New England all suffer from GPS because they are used to bums telling them how incredible they are in the hopes of getting a chance at being with them!
It's more work now and the cost has almost doubled since 2017. I saw an old invoice for $79.99. It's much better in Medellin, Colombia than here.
[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/8OcplpVgZVyMB4ANpzpVa789QMJtMCdAbfVr[/URL]
Anyone have the 411 thanks.
I'm seeing "Profile Not Available" so either she's gone or I blocked, which now a days is rare.
[QUOTE=AcknowledgeMe;7616324]Anyone know or have talked to her. She messaged me and her pics look so familiar it's like I seen them somewhere and can't remember where.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1b463448-32d4-401d-aeee-a356807a4740[/URL][/QUOTE]
No it was private photos I opened up to them on Seeking.
No metadata with those photos.
But reverse search engines for facial recognition work very well. After the fact I tried it out on my Seeking pics (which were never posted anywhere else) and sure enough it linked me to my LinkedIn profile and another public photo or 2.
You will not avoid facial-reverse-search I'd any way other than not having ANY photos of yourself online anywhere I'm afraid.
[QUOTE=FriendlyKing;7613119]Did you share the photo through regular text messaging? If so, it's still possible in some cases for metadata to remain, depending on the phone and messaging system used.
Photos can contain EXIF metadata such as GPS coordinates, timestamp, and phone model if location services were enabled when the picture was taken. Some texting methods strip that data automatically, but not all of them do consistently.
Personally, before I share any photo, I explicitly modify or remove the location metadata first, just to avoid situations like this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bran2025;7623000]I'm seeing "Profile Not Available" so either she's gone or I blocked, which now a days is rare.[/QUOTE]Profiles still there just clicked it.
[QUOTE=Bran2025;7623000]I'm seeing "Profile Not Available" so either she's gone or I blocked, which now a days is rare.[/QUOTE]I get the same message when clicking a link here. Just hit re=load after you get that message. Profile for Karizma comes up. Or open it in a new window.
[QUOTE=MajorJohnson;7623075]I get the same message when clicking a link here. Just hit re=load after you get that message. Profile for Karizma comes up. Or open it in a new window.[/QUOTE]TY! Never knew that worked.
I agree she kinda looks familiar (and more like 49 not 39) but I can't place her.
She went by Anika. Told me she was going to leave SA and start a dog walking business. I don't see any recent activity on social media.
[QUOTE=KcirtaPanner2;7612536]I know she's been talked about on here before but can't find it. Anyone seen lately?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EmvLa;7622678]Of living too affects the prices these girls want / need. My last 2 SB wanted more for what we already had going and didn't feel like obliging so just been using BIE. I hate the hr or two restriction but gotten a few numbers to hopefully work outside them though they are a great agency nonetheless. I'd recommend most to take a break from SA if they can't afford the price increase for now.[/QUOTE]Its not even the price increase, its the lack of quality for the prices they throw around is my main issue. Like, there are a bunch of 6. 5's who think they are 9. 5 and taxing us at that rate. While the 9. 5 is still charging the same. However outside of the Northeast those same 6. 5's know their lane and arent tryin to overcharge because of the bums on their social media telling them how beautiful they are when its not true.
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[QUOTE=HipHoprulez02;7623291]Its not even the price increase, its the lack of quality for the prices they throw around is my main issue. Like, there are a bunch of 6. 5's who think they are 9. 5 and taxing us at that rate. While the 9. 5 is still charging the same. However outside of the Northeast those same 6. 5's know their lane and arent tryin to overcharge because of the bums on their social media telling them how beautiful they are when its not true.
-HH02.[/QUOTE]This was recently discussed but basically when one idiot pays the price of a 9 to a 5 or 6 that becomes the new firm price for these women. I've recently just been asking women what their usual allowance is or ppm is before I throw my number out there to gauge if it's worth it or not, there's also now been a hard push on paying for first time platonic meets. I recently met a hot goth off sb and thought it went well until she expected to be paid for our first meet which we agreed to at first meet in a public setting for safety then I had hit her with I would give it if she met my requirements that go into a ppm and let's just say she wouldn't budge on any form of intimacy although I felt like if I had thrown a higher number than our agreed price she would've slobbed my knob in my car before she had to make her train back to Gloucester.
[QUOTE=HankChinanski;7623603]This was recently discussed but basically when one idiot pays the price of a 9 to a 5 or 6 that becomes the new firm price for these women. I've recently just been asking women what their usual allowance is or ppm is before I throw my number out there to gauge if it's worth it or not, there's also now been a hard push on paying for first time platonic meets. I recently met a hot goth off sb and thought it went well until she expected to be paid for our first meet which we agreed to at first meet in a public setting for safety then I had hit her with I would give it if she met my requirements that go into a ppm and let's just say she wouldn't budge on any form of intimacy although I felt like if I had thrown a higher number than our agreed price she would've slobbed my knob in my car before she had to make her train back to Gloucester.[/QUOTE]Exactly!! I was talking to one who wanted 5 for dinner, alone with nothing else for a first meet! Like come on now! I have switched over to your tactic as of late. It seems like more of these 5 or 6's are getting top dollar and they arent worth it. Had one woman who is the size of two women trying to get me to pay to take her out to dinner, and I don't even get down with someone built like a boxcar.
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[QUOTE=HankChinanski;7623603]This was recently discussed but basically when one idiot pays the price of a 9 to a 5 or 6 that becomes the new firm price for these women. I've recently just been asking women what their usual allowance is or ppm is before I throw my number out there to gauge if it's worth it or not, there's also now been a hard push on paying for first time platonic meets. I recently met a hot goth off sb and thought it went well until she expected to be paid for our first meet which we agreed to at first meet in a public setting for safety then I had hit her with I would give it if she met my requirements that go into a ppm and let's just say she wouldn't budge on any form of intimacy although I felt like if I had thrown a higher number than our agreed price she would've slobbed my knob in my car before she had to make her train back to Gloucester.[/QUOTE]Asking what their "usual allowance" is does invite a somewhat fictitious higher-than-usual number. I just (well back when I was active) give them my number and if it works it works. If they'd actually take 5 and you offer 5, you're likely to have a deal. If you ask them and they say 8, there is a decent chance that your 5 counter-offer will be met with an emotional response or a counter offer etc. Just give your number.
[QUOTE=HankChinanski;7623603]This was recently discussed but basically when one idiot pays the price of a 9 to a 5 or 6 that becomes the new firm price for these women. I've recently just been asking women what their usual allowance is or ppm is before I throw my number out there to gauge if it's worth it or not, there's also now been a hard push on paying for first time platonic meets. I recently met a hot goth off sb and thought it went well until she expected to be paid for our first meet which we agreed to at first meet in a public setting for safety then I had hit her with I would give it if she met my requirements that go into a ppm and let's just say she wouldn't budge on any form of intimacy although I felt like if I had thrown a higher number than our agreed price she would've slobbed my knob in my car before she had to make her train back to Gloucester.[/QUOTE]I found this on SA years ago, and thought it was a huge turn off, worse and different than deposits, that I don't agree to or with, but could find a rationale. But this is a relatively new mind set, one that screams "I don't have to audition or meet you half way, ever. " Didn't happen years ago. Time is money, but this is a non-starter for me. Entitlement!
[QUOTE=Corrado58;7624037]I found this on SA years ago, and thought it was a huge turn off, worse and different than deposits, that I don't agree to or with, but could find a rationale. But this is a relatively new mind set, one that screams "I don't have to audition or meet you half way, ever. " Didn't happen years ago. Time is money, but this is a non-starter for me. Entitlement![/QUOTE]It did happen years ago -- I was using SA over 10 years ago -- but yes a fair bit less. I've never been on SA without some percentage of SB's seeking some compensation for a first, platonic, date.
The women on there in 2026 are using Seeking to monitize their lives a little differently than they were 10+ years ago. That shift can show up as "entitlement" but I would submit is just a different mindset as to what they will do for money. Think about it -- if millions of men will pay for pics on OF, why wouldn't a man pay for a REAL LIFE coffee or drink date? To these girls, the paid platonic date is an extension of paid pics. To us mongers the platonic date is each party's "investment" in seeking out a sugar relationship. It's just two entirely different mindsets in 2026. I get it.
[QUOTE=Bran2025;7624072]It did happen years ago -- I was using SA over 10 years ago -- but yes a fair bit less. I've never been on SA without some percentage of SB's seeking some compensation for a first, platonic, date.
The women on there in 2026 are using Seeking to monitize their lives a little differently than they were 10+ years ago. That shift can show up as "entitlement" but I would submit is just a different mindset as to what they will do for money. Think about it -- if millions of men will pay for pics on OF, why wouldn't a man pay for a REAL LIFE coffee or drink date? To these girls, the paid platonic date is an extension of paid pics. To us mongers the platonic date is each party's "investment" in seeking out a sugar relationship. It's just two entirely different mindsets in 2026. I get it.[/QUOTE]Been on there for years and never paid for a platonic date my friend. I've paid for dinners or events as I would any real life date but not just for their presence. Like another monger said, if they agree to what I want for in PPM or allowance then they'll get their monetary value. The problem are men who pay for OF or platonic dates and high rates for fugly women.
There's a user on their who keeps trying to exchange messages via telegram. Their username is broke1111. They have had multiple profiles on seeking with different pictures. Never met them but something seems really fishy so just wanted to pass that warning to others to keep an eye out.
[QUOTE=TheCondor7;7624477]There's a user on their who keeps trying to exchange messages via telegram. Their username is broke1111. They have had multiple profiles on seeking with different pictures. Never met them but something seems really fishy so just wanted to pass that warning to others to keep an eye out.[/QUOTE]Seeking does not allow search by user name, so I link to her profile would be helpful.
[QUOTE=Bran2025;7624072]It did happen years ago -- I was using SA over 10 years ago -- but yes a fair bit less. I've never been on SA without some percentage of SB's seeking some compensation for a first, platonic, date.
The women on there in 2026 are using Seeking to monitize their lives a little differently than they were 10+ years ago. That shift can show up as "entitlement" but I would submit is just a different mindset as to what they will do for money. Think about it -- if millions of men will pay for pics on OF, why wouldn't a man pay for a REAL LIFE coffee or drink date? To these girls, the paid platonic date is an extension of paid pics. To us mongers the platonic date is each party's "investment" in seeking out a sugar relationship. It's just two entirely different mindsets in 2026. I get it.[/QUOTE]Insightful post! I think because I come from the days of CL personals before I used SA about 10 + yrs. Ago, I was shocked to hear of paid platonic dates in addition to dinner, etc. Your point of men who use OF would willingly pay for a non-sexual date is interesting and makes sense. However, maybe, because of OF and men using it, there is an arguable decline in in-person meets and women putting out ads. And men who would use OF exclusively, would be less likely to even go on dates. Seems to be a common lament as of late. We are indeed in a new age. The virtual gains on us. And it carries loss.
[QUOTE=EmvLa;7624198]Been on there for years and never paid for a platonic date my friend. I've paid for dinners or events as I would any real life date but not just for their presence. Like another monger said, if they agree to what I want for in PPM or allowance then they'll get their monetary value. The problem are men who pay for OF or platonic dates and high rates for fugly women.[/QUOTE]I've never paid for a meet-and-greet or other "platonic" date either, but my point was that women have been asking for it for a long time.
10+ years ago it came up often on the subreddit as well. The common response from men was "I don't pay for meet-and-greets or platonic dates" then as well.
This reminded me of the guy I knew who also 10+ years ago used to pay for dinner dates with porn stars. They'd come through Worcester (I think) to do a show and he'd go out to dinner with them afterwards. I know he wasn't having sex with them; it was just for dinner.
[QUOTE=PoolPlayInTool;7625317]Seeking does not allow search by user name, so I link to her profile would be helpful.[/QUOTE]I already blocked her when I reported her so her profile disappeared, and since she changes pictures and creates new profiles at least you have the telegram username to watch out for.
Search by user name didn't used to work, but it worked the last few times I tried.
[QUOTE=PoolPlayInTool;7625317]Seeking does not allow search by user name, so I link to her profile would be helpful.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DarkClouds;7626104]Search by user name didn't used to work, but it worked the last few times I tried.[/QUOTE]Don't understand why people can't take a screenshot of the profile and post that. 🤦8205;9794;65039;.
There's this woman, prelaw student, from Brazil. Asked how much I would spoil her for a call before meeting. Sounds like a rinser.
[QUOTE=TheCondor7;7627525]There's this woman, prelaw student, from Brazil. Asked how much I would spoil her for a call before meeting. Sounds like a rinser.[/QUOTE]Easy solution. "I don't compensate before an in person meeting. " That will flush out whether she's actually interested in meeting vs. Just getting "spoiled" for a vid chat.
[QUOTE=TheCondor7;7627525]There's this woman, prelaw student, from Brazil. Asked how much I would spoil her for a call before meeting. Sounds like a rinser.[/QUOTE]Just connected with a college girl off SB. Asked what she was looking for and she needed help with her rent at $650. Ok I'll play along, so I told her what I was looking for which was a couple hours at a hotel. She replied she wasn't sure about sex but was thinking more in line of a dinner date. I find if you are up front when discussing an arrangement with the girls most of them are looking for easy money so you can weed them out quickly without investing a lot of time or monies.
[QUOTE=Joe1223;7629191]Just connected with a college girl off SB. Asked what she was looking for and she needed help with her rent at $650. Ok I'll play along, so I told her what I was looking for which was a couple hours at a hotel. She replied she wasn't sure about sex but was thinking more in line of a dinner date. I find if you are up front when discussing an arrangement with the girls most of them are looking for easy money so you can weed them out quickly without investing a lot of time or monies.[/QUOTE]Imagine someone actually giving up 650 for a dinner! Thats nuts! Post the profile so we don't waste our time either!
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[QUOTE=HipHoprulez02;7629483]Imagine someone actually giving up 650 for a dinner! Thats nuts! Post the profile so we don't waste our time either!.[/QUOTE]I just finished another month membership and it was definitely tougher than it's been in the past. Sifted through some flakes, some girls seeking strictly platonic and some not even open to meeting in person, looking to sell pics / vids or get paid for weekly phone calls. I did manage to meet one girl in her 20's for a date, she was cute and agreed to 500 ppm but not on birth control, condoms required, that's a deal breaker for me. I guess I could have ironed those details out before the date (which only cost me the price of a few drinks) but each situation plays out a little differently and this one felt like I should let it ride until we met in person to discuss.
It was definitely easier and cheaper when I first got on the site 5 years ago.
[QUOTE=HipHoprulez02;7629483]Imagine someone actually giving up 650 for a dinner! Thats nuts! Post the profile so we don't waste our time either!
-HH02.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/EvoloeXD6h_WfMeZCxFXYjEFlPxb7L5y-4QM[/URL]
[QUOTE=Joe1223;7629539][URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/EvoloeXD6h_WfMeZCxFXYjEFlPxb7L5y-4QM[/URL][/QUOTE]Link won't load my dude.
[QUOTE=HankChinanski;7629579]Link won't load my dude.[/QUOTE]It opens when I try??She's at UNH, Durham. I told her to lmk if she decides to get venture out of an expensive dinner but so far it's been all quiet. She will get a few players to take her to dinner for a few bucks so she will have a meal and eventually get her rent money without trying too hard.
[QUOTE=FrogPilot;7629507]I just finished another month membership and it was definitely tougher than it's been in the past. Sifted through some flakes, some girls seeking strictly platonic and some not even open to meeting in person, looking to sell pics / vids or get paid for weekly phone calls. I did manage to meet one girl in her 20's for a date, she was cute and agreed to 500 ppm but not on birth control, condoms required, that's a deal breaker for me. I guess I could have ironed those details out before the date (which only cost me the price of a few drinks) but each situation plays out a little differently and this one felt like I should let it ride until we met in person to discuss.
It was definitely easier and cheaper when I first got on the site 5 years ago.[/QUOTE]Whats the info on that one, so I know to not go after her! Pics and Vids, if I wanted those, I'd go on OF, where the girls are 100 times hotter than the best on SA or SB could cook up! And OF is cheaper and we are guaranteed to get good content from them girls. Not someone who decided to film with an iPhone and can't hold it steady while getting plowed! Its easier in other areas, These girls are too entitled! They should know they are only a step above an escort, yet they struggle to realize that. This isn't some Hollywood movie, where the guy is going to give her like a bag of cash for dinner! This isn't Pretty Woman because none of yall look as good as Julia Roberts!
-HH02
ALSO,
Side note, but has anyone noticed how there are MEN on the same side as women?! Like WTF? And I'm not referring to the trans-women on there, but like I've seen a couple of guys when I'm scrolling for any woman that looks serviceable.
-HH02.
[QUOTE=HipHoprulez02;7630976]Whats the info on that one, so I know to not go after her! Pics and Vids, if I wanted those, I'd go on OF, where the girls are 100 times hotter than the best on SA or SB could cook up! And OF is cheaper and we are guaranteed to get good content from them girls. Not someone who decided to film with an iPhone and can't hold it steady while getting plowed! Its easier in other areas, These girls are too entitled! They should know they are only a step above an escort, yet they struggle to realize that. This isn't some Hollywood movie, where the guy is going to give her like a bag of cash for dinner! This isn't Pretty Woman because none of yall look as good as Julia Roberts!
-HH02[/QUOTE]You pay for OF content?
[QUOTE=EmvLa;7632277]You pay for OF content?[/QUOTE]Someone have to pay or else these girls would not be making money to keep advertising their ad. Even though they can go on porn site and watch free short cam girls for free now.
[QUOTE=EmvLa;7632277]You pay for OF content?[/QUOTE]Dunno if he does, but I also think he's referring to the fact that if one was looking for said adult digital interactions, they could do so at a much cheaper price, and at a safer place, than SA. So when girls offer this on SA and solicit it thinking we should be grateful, they are either: a) greedy, lazy, and dumb, b) an aspiring OF pro with little to no intention to meet for a reasonable price, or c) a scammer.
[QUOTE=HipHoprulez02;7630982]ALSO,
Side note, but has anyone noticed how there are MEN on the same side as women?! Like WTF? And I'm not referring to the trans-women on there, but like I've seen a couple of guys when I'm scrolling for any woman that looks serviceable.
-HH02.[/QUOTE]I mean, we can't even blame the women at this point. If guys are out there giving deposits and spoiling girls for phone calls / content without getting any action in return. Shit, it's free money for them. Why would any of these girls meet, let alone have sex with a stranger for money, if they can have deposits coming in without them doing a single thing? As someone said in the other thread, many are thinking with their smaller head. Although if we stop to think about it, men actually set the price. These girls wouldn't be getting away with crazy upfront deposits for NOTHING in return, or escorts charging crazy prices if we just said no. Of course, not all men, but some are giving them free cash for nothing in return, but we all end up paying the price.
[QUOTE=Hobbyist420;7633093]Dunno if he does, but I also think he's referring to the fact that if one was looking for said adult digital interactions, they could do so at a much cheaper price, and at a safer place, than SA. So when girls offer this on SA and solicit it thinking we should be grateful, they are either: a) greedy, lazy, and dumb, b) an aspiring OF pro with little to no intention to meet for a reasonable price, or c) a scammer.[/QUOTE]Exactly what I am saying! Nice to see someone using the other head to think on there!!
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[QUOTE=NiceHowMuch;7633199]I mean, we can't even blame the women at this point. If guys are out there giving deposits and spoiling girls for phone calls / content without getting any action in return. Shit, it's free money for them. Why would any of these girls meet, let alone have sex with a stranger for money, if they can have deposits coming in without them doing a single thing? As someone said in the other thread, many are thinking with their smaller head. Although if we stop to think about it, men actually set the price. These girls wouldn't be getting away with crazy upfront deposits for NOTHING in return, or escorts charging crazy prices if we just said no. Of course, not all men, but some are giving them free cash for nothing in return, but we all end up paying the price.[/QUOTE]See, at the end, you started to have that awakening! They need us more than we need them! We pay their bills, keep them in apartments, driving their cars, food on the table for their pro-life decisions! We need to take back the control!
-HH02.